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Wikileaks:USA & France - MACEDONIA REMAINS

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“IRONEA 338 B.C.E. ”

Since: Mar 10

+ Solun, Occupied Macedonia +

#2 Nov 30, 2010
(US) Assistant Secretary Gordon "expressed hope that if the international community could convince Macedonia to abandon the idea of a referendum and
get Greece to abandon the necessity of changing passports, then progress could be made."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-ca ...

In other words: MACEDONIANS WILL KEEP THEIR R.of MACEDONIA PASSPORTS (i.e. Identity) & THEY'LL AGREE NOT TO VOTE ABOUT IT.

Long live the American pragmatism!
hic Rhodus

Thessaloníki, Greece

#3 Nov 30, 2010
In few years,all of you will have Bulgarian passports.

“IRONEA 338 B.C.E. ”

Since: Mar 10

+ Solun, Occupied Macedonia +

#4 Nov 30, 2010
hic Rhodus wrote:
In few years,all of you will have Bulgarian passports.
Or maybe we should switch to Serb passports as Ex-Yugoslavian Republic? Or maybe both and some notion mentioning Tito? Like "The Ex Titoistic Former Yugoslav Serbo-Bulgar Nothern Republic of Vardar Macedonia" ? But there's still this "M" word in between, even the Vulars use it...

And yet, with all good will we have - these US insist that we keep ours:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-ca

Any sugestions?
ben

Switzerland

#5 Nov 30, 2010
@hic Rhodus
how about you, chinese maybe? Is the cradle of democracy big enough for the biggest dictature? And how you turn on stomach in the cradle?

“IRONEA 338 B.C.E. ”

Since: Mar 10

+ Solun, Occupied Macedonia +

#6 Nov 30, 2010
ben wrote:
@hic Rhodus
how about you, chinese maybe? Is the cradle of democracy big enough for the biggest dictature? And how you turn on stomach in the cradle?
They know all, but tryin not to face the reality.

Pathetic...
Greek Islander

Philadelphia, PA

#7 Nov 30, 2010
Whats is pathetic is that you are a Slav that pretends to be Macedonian! The land on which your country is located isn't even Macedonian in antiquity it was called Paeonia! During the Ottoman period your capital Skopje was the capital of Kosovo.
Today your country has the highest unemplyoyment in the world nearly one out of every three FYROMians don't have a job.
Most of your people can't afford to buy homes as prices are out of their reach.

"A square metre in a flat in the Macedonian* capital, Skopje, still sells for between 1,000 and 1,500 euro, statistics show, making purchase of a home for people on average salaries of about 330 euro a month almost impossible.

In expectation of joining the Alliance at the summit, confidence grew in the country and real estate prices soared accordingly.
However, prices failed to come back down after Macedonia left the NATO summit empty-handed because of its unresolved dispute with neighbouring Greece over its name, which Athens objects to."
http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/price...
*FYROMian
Dietrich Bauer

Bietigheim-bissingen, Germany

#8 Nov 30, 2010
Macedonia
is Greek, no dought about that.

Read:

"For I (Alexander I) myself am by ancient descent a Greek, and I would not willingly see Hellas change her freedom for slavery." (Herod. IX, 45, 2 [Loeb])

"Tell your king (Xerxes), who sent you, how his Greek viceroy (Alexander I) of Macedonia has received you hospitably." (Herod. V, 20, 4 [Loeb])

"Now, that these descendants of Perdiccas are Greeks, as they themselves say, I myself chance to know." (Herod. V, 22, 1 [Loeb])

The country by the sea which is now called Macedonia... Alexander, the father of Perdiccas, and his forefathers, who were originally Temenidae from Argos"
(Thucydides 99,3 (Loeb, C F Smith)

"But Alexander (I), proving himself to be an Argive, was judged to be a Greek;
so he contended in the furlong race and ran a dead heat for first place."
(Herod. V, 22, 2)

"The Macedonian people and their kings were of Greek stock, as their traditions and the scanty remains of their language combine to testify."
`{John Bagnell Bury, "A History of Greece to the Death of Alexander the Great", 2nd ed.(1913)

"Clearly, the language of the ancient Macedonians was Greek"
{Prof. John C. Roumans Professor Emeritus of Classics Wisconsin University}

"There is no doubt, that Macedonians were Greeks".
Greek Islander

Philadelphia, PA

#9 Nov 30, 2010
FYROM Leads World Unemployment Study

Macedonia’s* unemployment rate of 33.8 percent is the highest in the world, according to a study conducted by the well-known internet economic portal 24/7 Wall St.

The internet portal listed the 15 nations with the highest unemployment in the world, and Macedonia* ranks as the only country with over 30 per cent unemployment. It is followed by Armenia with 28.6 per cent, Algeria with 27.3 per cent and the West Bank and the Gaza Strip with 25.7 per cent.
http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/maced...

*FYROM

“IRONEA 338 B.C.E. ”

Since: Mar 10

+ Solun, Occupied Macedonia +

#10 Nov 30, 2010
HEHEHEHEHEHEEEEEHEEHEHEHEHEEEE EHEEHEEEE..

Do we?
hic Rhodus

Athens, Greece

#11 Nov 30, 2010
Filip II Reincarnated wrote:
<quoted text>
Or maybe we should switch to Serb passports as Ex-Yugoslavian Republic? Or maybe both and some notion mentioning Tito? Like "The Ex Titoistic Former Yugoslav Serbo-Bulgar Nothern Republic of Vardar Macedonia" ? But there's still this "M" word in between, even the Vulars use it...
And yet, with all good will we have - these US insist that we keep ours:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-ca
Any sugestions?
I suggest you search for your Bulgarian roots (not very difficult
task).And apply for a Bulgarian passport as soon as possible!
Here's a little help from me:learn the words
&fe ature=related
Ivmiv

Skopje, Macedonia

#12 Dec 1, 2010
Come on who is in debt for life? Greeekies, those small black hairy ugly balkan alliens, why dont you all sell your islands and get on your feet? Look who is talkin about economy, the greekie in lifetime debt? Even you care about how much a square meter costs, jesus you really are without job go find some job and leave Macedonia, oh forgot you cant find a job cuz Hell ASS is in crisis, anyways please go back from where you came, minor asia? Ponti? Old quart of Istanbul? Black sea? Where u settled the aegean macedonia from? Or your assimilated vlach maybe from Epirus? Whateva greekie go get a life, Hell ASS the biggest non democratic xenofobic with most ugly woman in the world... freakin pathetic
albania

Tetovo, Macedonia

#13 Dec 1, 2010
i think macedonia will been albanian country
Thanasi

Natick, MA

#16 Dec 2, 2010
albania wrote:
i think macedonia will been albanian country
You must mean an Albanian county (vilayet)!
ILIR

Göteborg, Sweden

#17 Dec 5, 2010
Alexander is Ilir and about macedonien is ilir teritoriom to...
ILIR

Göteborg, Sweden

#18 Dec 5, 2010
SERBin CHEECK NIIX, Bulgari (macedonians) and rest Slav go to Rusian. ILIRIDA is albaniens contry and DARDANIA is Albaniens, QAMERIA JANINA is albania contry... . KOSOVA, ILIRIDA, NIS is albanish (preshev, bojanofc medvegj,PRISHTIN,GOSTIVAR STRUGË, SHKUP, OHËR, TETOVE.... JANINA (Qameria) MALsia 2012 is time of Unitet state of Albanien.
Goce

Leda, Australia

#20 Dec 6, 2010
Da vi ebam majkata na site vas grci. Macedonia is Macedonia and Greece is Greece. Stop wasting your time proving bullshit theory and history. We all know what we are in our hearts. I know I am a Macedonian and that I will always be Macedonian and that there will be a Macedonia forever. You can think were Greeks or Serbs or Bulgarians I really don't give a crap but I have no idea how you can spend hours reading these comments and making new arguments. Get a life all you guys

Since: Sep 09

ISTANBUL

#21 Dec 6, 2010
Please listen to this music.
Archelaos

Athens, Greece

#22 Dec 6, 2010
Its nice.

Since: Sep 09

ISTANBUL

#23 Dec 6, 2010
Archelaos wrote:
Its nice.
Thanks.
It is real synthesis of many cultures of the anatolia and balkans:))
Archelaos

Athens, Greece

#24 Dec 6, 2010
Music relaxes human nature, if we could listen that music together as people and talk civil, like those e-mails we had excanged once, we could be real good neigbours.
Real good ones.
Cause as I have said before, only a Greek can undertdand a Turk and the oposite. Think about it.

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