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FYROM must solve the name problem if it wants to join EU and NATO

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FYROM must solve the name problem if it wants to join EU and NATO, said former Danish Foreign Minister Uffe Ellemann-Jensen in his address upon receiving order "September 8", presented by President Gjorge Ivanov on Friday.

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United Macedonians

Niederdorf, Germany

#1 Feb 14, 2010
FYROM must solve the name problem if it wants to join EU and NATO, said former Danish Foreign Minister Uffe Ellemann-Jensen in his address upon receiving order "September 8", presented by President Gjorge Ivanov on Friday.

"You will kept out of the structures you want to join until the name issue is resolved. This is unfair, beyond any reason and the common European and Atlantic interests, but this is a fact of life", added Jensen.

According to him, the conflict that has become a tangled knot, could be settled through compromise, which can be reached in two ways.

"Alexander the Great found an efficient way to solve the Gordian Knot. I hope we all agree that Alexander's method would not bring us closer to the problem at hand. This problem should be resolved through compromise, where concerned parties will have to budge from their stances. The best solution is always the one which makes both parties satisfied. However, this was not possible until now. The second-best solution would probably be a compromise where both sides are a bit dissatisfied, because for a solution to be sustainable, there must be no winners and no losers", said the former Danish FM.

http://taxalia.blogspot.com/2010/02/fyrom-mus...
United Macedonians

Niederdorf, Germany

#2 Feb 14, 2010
US Congress Resolution

US 111th CONGRESS (2009)

1st Session

Senate RESOLUTION 169

Expressing the sense of the Senate that the Government of the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia should work within the framework of the United Nations process with Greece to achieve longstanding United States and United Nations policy goals of finding a mutually acceptable composite name, with a geographical qualifier and for all international uses for the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia.

IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

June 4, 2009

Mr. MENENDEZ (for himself, Ms. SNOWE, Mrs. SHAHEEN, and Ms. MIKULSKI) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on Foreign Relations

RESOLUTION

Expressing the sense of the Senate that the Government of the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia should work within the framework of the United Nations process with Greece to achieve longstanding United States and United Nations policy goals of finding a mutually acceptable composite name, with a geographical qualifier and for all international uses for the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia.
United Macedonians

Niederdorf, Germany

#3 Feb 14, 2010
Whereas, on April 8, 1993, the United Nations General Assembly admitted as a member the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, under the name the `former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia';

Whereas United Nations Security Council Resolution 817 (1993) states that the international dispute over the name must be resolved to maintain peaceful relations between Greece and the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia and regional stability;

Whereas Greece is a strategic partner and ally of the United States in bringing political stability and economic development to the Balkan region, having invested over $20,000,000,000 in the countries of the region, thereby creating over 200,000 new jobs, and having contributed over $750,000,000 in development aid for the region;

Whereas Greece has invested over $1,000,000,000 in the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, thereby creating more than 10,000 new jobs and having contributed $110,000,000 in development aid;

Whereas Senate Resolution 300, introduced in the 110th Congress, urged the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia to abstain from hostile activities and stop the utilization of materials that violate provisions of the United Nations-brokered Interim Agreement between the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia and Greece regarding `hostile activities or propaganda';
United Macedonians

Niederdorf, Germany

#4 Feb 14, 2010
Whereas NATO's Heads of State and Government unanimously agreed in Bucharest on April 3, 2008, that `... within the framework of the U.N., many actors have worked hard to resolve the name issue, but the Alliance has noted with regret that these talks have not produced a successful outcome. Therefore we agreed that an invitation to the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia will be extended as soon as a mutually acceptable solution to the name issue has been reached. We encourage the negotiations to be resumed without delay and expect them to be concluded as soon as possible';

Whereas the Heads of State and Government participating in the meeting of the North Atlantic Council in Strasbourg/Kehl on April 4, 2009, reiterated their unanimous support for the agreement at the Bucharest Summit `to extend an invitation to the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia as soon as a mutually acceptable solution to the name issue has been reached within the framework of the U.N., and urge intensified efforts towards that goal.'; and

Whereas authorities in the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia urged their citizens to boycott Greek investments in the country and not to travel to Greece: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved, That the Senate—

(1) urges the Government of the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia to work within the framework of the United Nations process with Greece to achieve longstanding United States and United Nations policy goals by finding a mutually acceptable composite name, with a geographical qualifier and for all international uses for the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia; and

(2) urges the Government of the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia to abstain from hostile activities and stop violating provisions of the United Nations-brokered Interim Agreement between the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia and Greece regarding `hostile activities or propaganda'.
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Athens, Greece

#5 Feb 14, 2010
All european countries are pushing FYROM and this is really good.

“Macedonian, therefore Greek”

Since: Apr 07

Lychnidos, occupied Macedonia

#6 Feb 14, 2010
come on Titozombies.
Names like Somemacedonia(n) are not derogative at all.

Let alone Makedonskata(n)!!!!
United Macedonians

Niederdorf, Germany

#7 Feb 14, 2010
Istor wrote:
come on Titozombies.
Names like Somemacedonia(n) are not derogative at all.
Let alone Makedonskata(n)!!!!
Why, is Yugoslavia derrogative for the Yugoslavs?
United Macedonians

Niederdorf, Germany

#8 Feb 14, 2010
Rann's speech surprises the FYROMians

PREMIER Mike Rann has upset the Skopians by accusing FYROM of stealing Greek culture and its leader, Gjorge Ivanov, of "stirring up trouble in the most dangerous way".

Mr Rann affirms his commitment to Adelaide's Greek voters and promises his Government will "remain firm and unswerving in our support for your cause".

"It is important because no one is entitled to steal another nation's history or culture," Mr Rann said.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/in-depth/r...

“Macedonian, therefore Greek”

Since: Apr 07

Lychnidos, occupied Macedonia

#9 Feb 14, 2010
United Macedonians wrote:
<quoted text>
Why, is Yugoslavia derrogative for the Yugoslavs?
Of course not.

But I think Serbians will be embarrassed.

“Dimitri at the races in Russia”

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#10 Feb 14, 2010
there´s no enlagement in EU for years, for now.
EU has enough troubles with greece, magayrs, roma republic, bulgapaprikas not alone some macedonskis.
first, EU economies need to get stabled, maybe in 5 years from now on ?

Since: May 09

Los Angeles, CA

#11 Feb 14, 2010
The rest of the Europeans are trying their best to be as diplomatic as possible to try to make these Fyromonkeys understand their situation...but judgin by Ivanov's stupid remark: "...There are no dilemmas where FYROM is going and where it belongs. FYROM - faced with such absurd and lack of principles..." makes it more than obvious, they don't want to.

“Makedon therefore E/\/\hn”

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#12 Feb 15, 2010
people of Europe!!

Ex yugoslav national conglomerate of seven + ethnic groups (national leftovers) being called Fyrom but actually officially "Yet to be Defined" after having unsuccessfully tried for 20 years to shamelessly steal macedonian Greek identity and legacy and thus arbitrarily usurp history as the world knows and academia confirms , they now have resorted to the contribution of their Turkish "brothers' as they call them in an attempt to coax (and invite) them with a view to "gaining" their support.
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/macedonia/TA ...

“Makedon therefore E/\/\hn”

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#13 Feb 15, 2010
But how do Turks understand their "support" and at what price or exchange???
vardarians from ex communist yugoslavia being themselves of bulgarian origin ,or albanian, or turks, bosnians, and roma would go to any lengths in order to gain this doomed to failure bet they foolishly started against the Greeks.
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/macedonia/TA ...

“Makedon therefore E/\/\hn”

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#16 Feb 15, 2010
Danish people do not forget
Greece is geographically destined to fight against barbarism for her own sake AND for the sake of Europe.
do not forget
http://www.youtube.com/watch ...
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/macedonia/TA ...

“Makedon therefore E/\/\hn”

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#18 Feb 15, 2010
Nina-Makedonia-Hellas wrote:
people of Europe!!
Ex yugoslav national conglomerate of seven + ethnic groups (national leftovers) being called Fyrom but actually officially "Yet to be Defined" after having unsuccessfully tried for 20 years to shamelessly steal macedonian Greek identity and legacy and thus arbitrarily usurp history as the world knows and academia confirms , they now have resorted to the contribution of their Turkish "brothers' as they call them in an attempt to coax (and invite) them with a view to "gaining" their support.
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/macedonia/TA ...
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/macedonia/TA...

“Makedon therefore E/\/\hn”

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#19 Feb 15, 2010
Nina-Makedonia-Hellas wrote:
But how do Turks understand their "support" and at what price or exchange???
vardarians from ex communist yugoslavia being themselves of bulgarian origin ,or albanian, or turks, bosnians, and roma would go to any lengths in order to gain this doomed to failure bet they foolishly started against the Greeks.
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/macedonia/TA ...
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/macedonia/TA...

“Makedon therefore E/\/\hn”

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#20 Feb 15, 2010
WHO WANTS VARDARIANS FROM FYROM TO OPEN THE DOOR TO THEIR "BROTHERS' TURKS INTO THE BALKANS AND EUROPE???

Danish people do not forget
Greece is geographically destined to fight against barbarism for her own sake AND for the sake of Europe.
do not forget

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/macedonia/TA...

“Liberalism”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#23 Oct 19, 2012
Greece ask anormal things.

Is anormal one country to choose name for one other.

So, all EU countries need to recognize "Republic of Macedonia".

At the other hand, FYR Macedonia have nationalist government(Gruevski), who make everything to support nationalism and to dissolve the country.

With Gruevski FYR Macedonia can't join EU.

Is anormal at 21 century one country to base on nationalism.
Greeks

Greece

#24 Oct 20, 2012
United Macedonians wrote:
FYROM must solve the name problem if it wants to join EU and NATO, said former Danish Foreign Minister Uffe Ellemann-Jensen in his address upon receiving order "September 8", presented by President Gjorge Ivanov on Friday.
"You will kept out of the structures you want to join until the name issue is resolved. This is unfair, beyond any reason and the common European and Atlantic interests, but this is a fact of life", added Jensen.
According to him, the conflict that has become a tangled knot, could be settled through compromise, which can be reached in two ways.
"Alexander the Great found an efficient way to solve the Gordian Knot. I hope we all agree that Alexander's method would not bring us closer to the problem at hand. This problem should be resolved through compromise, where concerned parties will have to budge from their stances. The best solution is always the one which makes both parties satisfied. However, this was not possible until now. The second-best solution would probably be a compromise where both sides are a bit dissatisfied, because for a solution to be sustainable, there must be no winners and no losers", said the former Danish FM.
http://taxalia.blogspot.com/2010/02/fyrom-mus...
True!
Macedonia is Greece

“Facts, not fiction”

Since: Apr 07

Earth

#25 Oct 21, 2012
Greeks wrote:
<quoted text>
True!
Macedonia is Greece
What? More economically backward people? Urgh.

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