EU unites against Russia

[tarmo]

Sansanych wrote:

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Your cite from the wiki is an excellent example why one should not trust everything written there.
Russia took only responsibilities
1. for monetary debts of USSR because all the republics refused to pay
2. and responsibilities for all military treaties becuase it has the nuke.
NOTHING else from the USSR obligations were taken.
Any crimes committed in the USSR must be trialled personally but not the FR state as a hole because Russia had not existed from 1917 to 1992 when it got freedom from the USSR's multinational ruling.

That stance is only possible if Russian institutions emerged from a scratch. They didn't. FSB is a legal successor to the KGB. KGB crimes have never been investigated properly.

In fact, soviet crimes in general are not satisfactorily investigated in RF at present.

The medallion of Estonian presidency from 1940 is still in Kremlin. Archeological assets from the University of Tartu are still in Russia (Voronezh). Thiefs are thiefs no matter if they call themselves soviets or RF.

Present-day Russia is continuing to occupy Bessarabia/Moldova. Present-day Russia has not given back the lands that soviets occupied - Kuriil, Karelia, Seto, etc.

[Andrew]

tarmo wrote:

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That stance is only possible if Russian institutions emerged from a scratch. They didn't. FSB is a legal successor to the KGB. KGB crimes have never been investigated properly.
In fact, soviet crimes in general are not satisfactorily investigated in RF at present.
The medallion of Estonian presidency from 1940 is still in Kremlin. Archeological assets from the University of Tartu are still in Russia (Voronezh). Thiefs are thiefs no matter if they call themselves soviets or RF.
Present-day Russia is continuing to occupy Bessarabia/Moldova. Present-day Russia has not given back the lands that soviets occupied - Kuriil, Karelia, Seto, etc.

What occupation is for you ?

[tarmo]

Andrew wrote:

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What occupation is for you ?

I didn't understand. Please explain in other words.

[Wiesenthal]

Why “Operation: Last Chance” Is Being Launched in the Baltics?

There are numerous reasons why the Baltics were chosen as the initial place to implement “Operation: Last Chance.” While several relate to the specific nature of the events of the Holocaust in Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia, others are a product of practical and technical considerations. The most important are the following: 1. These countries had the highest victimology rate in Europe during the Holocaust. Not only were the local Jewish communities almost completely annihilated but many thousands of Jews from other countries (Germany, Austria, Czechoslovakia, Hungary and France) were deported to the Baltics and murdered in Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia.
2. The extremely large number of local collaborators who actively participated in the mass murder of the local Jewish communities and Jews deported to these countries
3. The fact that local police units from each of the Baltic countries were sent abroad, where they actively participated in the mass murder of Jews (especially in Belarus and Poland.)
4. Following the occupation of the Baltics by the Soviet Union in 1944, many Nazi war criminals were prosecuted and convicted by the Soviet authorities. These individuals can testify regarding crimes committed during the Holocaust that they personally witnessed without fear of prosecution
5. The fact that there has not been a single prosecution of a local Nazi war criminal – in which the defendant was healthy enough to attend the trial and bear punishment if convicted – in any of the three Baltic countries makes the efforts to bring the guilty to justice of unique significance for Lithuanian, Latvian, and Estonian society.

http://www.operationlastchance.org/ESTONIA_OL...

[uther pendragon]

huub wrote:

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Because the current RF is the official successor of the country which organized the famine?

The Soviets were above the Russian, Ukrainian, Belarussian and Estonian governments. How is Russia more responsible than the rest?

Do you think it was a democracy and the Russian majority ruled?

[Proud Eest]

RF is the official successor of the country ONLY ON THE SOVIET MONETARY DEBTS!
NOTHING ELSE.

[Why_Me]

uther pendragon wrote:

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The Soviets were above the Russian, Ukrainian, Belarussian and Estonian governments. How is Russia more responsible than the rest?
Do you think it was a democracy and the Russian majority ruled?

LOL ..Everything went through the Kremlin. Anyone who thinks differen't apparently has little or no knowledge of the Soviet Union. The US was totally domintated by Russia...sans the mandatory Russian language classes in all SU country's and the Russification process of said country's. I thought this was common knowledge for everyone on here.

[Why_Me]

*US should be SU (Soviet Union) in above post.

[uther pendragon]

Why_Me wrote:

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LOL ..Everything went through the Kremlin. Anyone who thinks differen't apparently has little or no knowledge of the Soviet Union. The US was totally domintated by Russia...sans the mandatory Russian language classes in all SU country's and the Russification process of said country's. I thought this was common knowledge for everyone on here.

Everything went through the Soviet leadership (Gorbachev), when he was in charge and Yeltsin head of the Russian SSR were they the same entity? Of course not. The Russian SSR was a layer below just like the Belarussian SSR.
When Gorbachev fell the different republics had their seperate governments.
The Russian SSR was not in charge of what happened in Minsk. Before Gorbachev fell the Soviets (in Moskva) were but never Russia.

[Red Army Defector]

16 May 2008 | 11:08

President Yushchenko of Ukraine opened Holodomor exhbition in London

In London President Viktor Yushchenko took part in opening an exhibition “Executed by famine: unknown genocide against Ukrainian nation” dedicated to 75th anniversary of the Great Famine in Ukraine. President's press office reports.

In his address President Yushchenko thanked everybody who contributed to arranging the exhibition. According to him, it would appeal to universal human values and moral and initiates making proper conclusions from the tragic events of 1932-1933.

Those present honored Holodomor victims observing a moment of silence.

ForUm
http://en.for-ua.com/news/2008/05/16/110807.h...

[tarmo]

Proud Eest wrote:

RF is the official successor of the country ONLY ON THE SOVIET MONETARY DEBTS!
NOTHING ELSE.

Well, then Russia should give away ALL archives concerning soviet legacy - including all KGB archives - so that the world (international courts) could organize another Nurenburg for soviet communists. After all, judging communists should not harm Russia if Russia is not a successor of the soviet regime, right?

[Andrew]

tarmo wrote:

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Well, then Russia should give away ALL archives concerning soviet legacy - including all KGB archives - so that the world (international courts) could organize another Nurenburg for soviet communists. After all, judging communists should not harm Russia if Russia is not a successor of the soviet regime, right?

May be better Nurenburg for that : http://ru.youtube.com/watch...

[huhuhuhu]

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[Voice]

tarmo wrote:

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Well, then Russia should give away ALL archives concerning soviet legacy - including all KGB archives - so that the world (international courts) could organize another Nurenburg for soviet communists. After all, judging communists should not harm Russia if Russia is not a successor of the soviet regime, right?

Otsos Petrovich. OK?

[nicos]

tarmo wrote:

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Well, then Russia should give away ALL archives concerning soviet legacy - including all KGB archives - so that the world (international courts) could organize another Nurenburg for soviet communists. After all, judging communists should not harm Russia if Russia is not a successor of the soviet regime, right?

At first punish your SS men, stop those Nazi marches each year and digging in graves of anti-Nazi fighters.
You stink with corpses, chuhnia.

[nicos]

===Those present honored Holodomor victims observing a moment of silence.==
The main managers and administrators of the Ukrainian Holodomor
Stalin (Georgian)– Dictator of USSR
ask GEORGIA for compensation
Kosior (Polish) from 1928 to 1938 - Chairman of Central Comity of the Ukrainian Communist Party
Shot in 1938
ask POLAND for compensation.
Chubar (Ukrainian) from 1923 to 1934 – Chairman of the Government of Ukraine
Shot in 1939
ask UKRAINE for compensation.
Kaganovich (Jewish)- Chairman of NKVD of Ukraine and Caucasus
Died in 1986
ask ISRAEL for compensation.
Mendel Hataevich (Jewish)– chief of collectivisation in Ukraine
Shot in 1937
ask ISRAEL for compensation.
AREAS of the famine: Russia, Kazakhstan, Ukraine.

[tarmo]

Voice wrote:

<quoted text>Otsos Petrovich. OK?

Huh?

[tarmo]

Andrew wrote:

<quoted text> May be better Nurenburg for that : http://ru.youtube.com/watch...

Sorry, I only watch sumo or Leto Svet from Youtube ;-)

[tarmo]

nicos wrote:

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At first punish your SS men

Those guilty have been punished already long time ago.

nicos wrote:

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stop those Nazi marches each year

No problem - there have been no nazi marches in Estonia.

nicos wrote:

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and digging in graves of anti-Nazi fighters.
You stink with corpses, chuhnia.

Sorry, you have the wrong address. Russia has done more gravedigging of soviet WWII gaves than Eastern Europe combined. And they (Russia) are not polite in their dealings either - bulldozer will do and the bones will be left open for the sun and rain.

Estonians had an archaelogical digging within a large tent, a priest was summoned as well, the bones were reburied.

[nicos]

==Those guilty have been punished already long time ago.==

They march along your streets each year in their SS uniform.

--No problem - there have been no nazi marches in Estonia.--
You lie.

06-07-2004 / Estonia
Estonia – A Parade of Waffen-SS Veterans
On 6th July 2004, a parade of Estonia Waffen-SS veterans was held in the streets of the Estonian capital Tallinn commemorating the 60th anniversary of the Estonian victory over the Soviet army and the 10th anniversary of the pull-out of the Soviet forces from Estonia. The parade was organized by an organization called the Union of Freedom Fighters with a membership of 3000, most of them Waffen-SS veterans.
http://www.antisemitism.org.il/eng/search/...

You will be liable for YOURS.
Inside Russia, we will make it clear withput your help.
Estonians are Nazi SS grave diggers.