Poland aims to be a more assertive po...

Poland aims to be a more assertive power player in Europe

There are 1343 comments on the Christian Science Monitor story from Jul 23, 2013, titled Poland aims to be a more assertive power player in Europe. In it, Christian Science Monitor reports that:

As Poland prepared to join the European Union , French President Jacques Chirac in 2003 told the Poles to "shut up" about their support for the unpopular, US-led invasion of Iraq.

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ron jeremy

West Palm Beach, FL

#1 Jul 23, 2013
All dumb Polaks are suited for is sitting back and playing with their kielbasas. If they did not have Jews telling them what to do...

“ I'm proud”

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#2 Jul 23, 2013
ron jeremy wrote:
All dumb Polaks are suited for is sitting back and playing with their kielbasas. If they did not have Jews telling them what to do...
How old are you? 10?

You keep confusing Polaks with Russkies.

Poland today with barely any Jews is doing very well. On the other hand......mighty Soviet Russia fell when there were less Jews and more ethnic Russians started to run Moscow.

You have to admit Russians should get on their hands and knees to thank the Jews for making Russia into the powerful nuclear armed Soviet Union that put Russia on the map. Russia today would not have the nukes and all its territory if NOT for Jews. Agreed??

Why was Russia more powerful when more Jews were in its government?
Clear Dharma

Coronado, Portugal

#3 Jul 23, 2013
Poland will be a dominant force in Europe within 10 years once the generation brought up in the communist era moves out of the way. Poland's natural role in the world is to do things in its own way, having little regards for Russia and Germany. 10 years ago there was a lot of sucking up to America by the Poles, this too will fall away when Poland demonstrates the Polish Way of politics, culture and society. This is not idle speculation, this is the fact that will become ....
Valirie

Brooklyn, NY

#5 Jul 23, 2013
Go Poles.
rio

Bromley, UK

#6 Jul 24, 2013
Clear Dharma wrote:
Poland will be a dominant force in Europe within 10 years ..
LMFAO !!!!!
Clear Dharma

Coronado, Portugal

#7 Jul 24, 2013
rio wrote:
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LMFAO !!!!!
Explain yourself Big Boy ...
alexandre

Athens, Greece

#8 Jul 24, 2013
rio wrote:
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LMFAO !!!!!
oh god.... he is going to start with his anti pollac rant again... we now that you hate Poles for some reason.
Pro Ukraine

UK

#9 Jul 24, 2013
That's ronan he's an idiot, but he's right on this occaision, Poland won't be a dominant force in Europe within 10 years, Germany and France will continue to dominate the EU for decades.
Clear Dharma

Coronado, Portugal

#11 Jul 24, 2013
Pro Ukraine wrote:
That's ronan he's an idiot, but he's right on this occaision, Poland won't be a dominant force in Europe within 10 years, Germany and France will continue to dominate the EU for decades.
Germany yes, it's a large developed country that has received a lot of support from USA and allies.It also has made a few enemies with its high horse attitude.

France is in terminal decline. Decades of socialism is killing it economically. France is now a drag on Europe.

Poland has the will to develop business links both east and south.These are the growth areas in Europe. There is a can do attitude in Poland that missing in the post banking crisis eu
rio

London, UK

#12 Jul 24, 2013
Clear Dharma wrote:
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Explain yourself Big Boy ...
Do I really need to humiliate you by exposing your statement as ridiculous propaganda?

Poland is a failed state, always has been and always will be.
In fact, Poland doesn't deserve to exist.
It was a big mistake of France and Britain to resurrect it after WWI, to punish both Russia (for leaving the war) and Germany (for loosing it) by amputing some of their territories to recreate in 1918 a country that didn't exist since 1795. It was a big mistake as history has shown.

Poland was the cause and the reason for WWII. Britain and France should never have offered to "protect" Poland, and instead let Hitler and Stalin to carve it at will.
Had they done that, we wouldn't have the carnage of WWII and millions of dead.

Half of Poland should really go back to Germany anyway.
Poland is the bigest recipient of EU charity, and will be for the long term future. The country is kept afloat by the rest of Europe, mostly Germany.
Clear Dharma

Coronado, Portugal

#13 Jul 24, 2013
I'm not sure which cesspool you come from Rio, don't particularly care but what is very obvious is that you are pig-shit thick and quite possibly of a socialist persuasion. Therefore that's the way I'll treat you.

Magnanimous treatment of Poland wasn't something that puny Britain and mendacious France could give or take away without support from USA, and that support is slowly and surely leaking away like the economies of those two which were built on American cash handouts, as was Germany. France has been sucking on the European tit for decades and still has little to show. The British are full of themselves but are degenerating into an also ran with only what's left of the London banks keeping their lard asses afloat. The pound is weak even against the euro. Worldwide there is little confidence in Britain and its as likely to get the boot out of Europe anyway with the constant whining for special treatment and kickbacks.

I would love to see Russia and Germany take over west and east Poland. It would be fun to watch. There would be such upheaval the likes of which has not been seen since the Germans spared the Brits and French Dunkirk - ide when the Americans weren't there to hold their hands.

I stand by my word. The 20's will be Poland's decade. The infrastructure is going in, and it won't be squandered like in Spain, Portugal and Ireland. The networks are bring established. The work ethic and education have always been there. Can-do is in place. Europe is decaying at the periphery. The competition is going to hit your dim-witted eyes like an atomic freight train. Your gravy train is about to be derailed big time.
rio

London, UK

#14 Jul 24, 2013
Clear Dharma wrote:
I'm not sure which cesspool you come from Rio, don't particularly care but what is very obvious is that you are pig-shit thick and quite possibly of a socialist persuasion. Therefore that's the way I'll treat you.
Magnanimous treatment of Poland wasn't something that puny Britain and mendacious France could give or take away without support from USA, and that support is slowly and surely leaking away like the economies of those two which were built on American cash handouts, as was Germany. France has been sucking on the European tit for decades and still has little to show. The British are full of themselves but are degenerating into an also ran with only what's left of the London banks keeping their lard asses afloat. The pound is weak even against the euro. Worldwide there is little confidence in Britain and its as likely to get the boot out of Europe anyway with the constant whining for special treatment and kickbacks.
I would love to see Russia and Germany take over west and east Poland. It would be fun to watch. There would be such upheaval the likes of which has not been seen since the Germans spared the Brits and French Dunkirk - ide when the Americans weren't there to hold their hands.
I stand by my word. The 20's will be Poland's decade. The infrastructure is going in, and it won't be squandered like in Spain, Portugal and Ireland. The networks are bring established. The work ethic and education have always been there. Can-do is in place. Europe is decaying at the periphery. The competition is going to hit your dim-witted eyes like an atomic freight train. Your gravy train is about to be derailed big time.
You are entitled to your opinion, just like I am entitled to mine.
None of us is going to convince the other.

By the way, I detest socialism with a passion, so that's not where I seek inspiration.
Clear Dharma

Coronado, Portugal

#15 Jul 24, 2013
So if your warped sense of history is not inspired by socialism, the next obvious choice would be some form if neo-nazism or you may be of as certain religious persuasion?

Or you may simply be nationalistic in a primitive sort of way, looking at the facts that service and massage a narrow world view?

Anyway I'm not here to be your inquisitor. Greed and national self indulgence has had its day and failed. Socialism has long been proven to be against the natural order of things. New ways are coming and good people will be needed - and for that there are none finer than the good people of Poland.

:-)
Pro Ukraine

UK

#16 Jul 24, 2013
rio wrote:
<quoted text>By the way, I detest socialism with a passion, so that's not where I seek inspiration.
HaHaHaHaHa LOL! That's one of the funniest things I've ever read on here, Roby, you're further left wing than Kim Jung Un.
Pro Ukraine

UK

#17 Jul 24, 2013
Clear Dharma wrote:
So if your warped sense of history is not inspired by socialism, the next obvious choice would be some form if neo-nazism or you may be of as certain religious persuasion?
Or you may simply be nationalistic in a primitive sort of way, looking at the facts that service and massage a narrow world view?
Anyway I'm not here to be your inquisitor. Greed and national self indulgence has had its day and failed. Socialism has long been proven to be against the natural order of things. New ways are coming and good people will be needed - and for that there are none finer than the good people of Poland.
:-)
He claims to be a Conservative, but is a Stalin apologist and a commie, try and find some of his posts on the Russia forum where he was posting as "ronan" or "Robespierre", he blindly defends Russia in everything it does or has ever done and covers up the crimes of Stalin.
rio

London, UK

#18 Jul 24, 2013
Pro Ukraine wrote:
<quoted text>He claims to be a Conservative, but is a Stalin apologist and a commie, try and find some of his posts on the Russia forum where he was posting as "ronan" or "Robespierre", he blindly defends Russia in everything it does or has ever done and covers up the crimes of Stalin.
Ha, ha, that old chestnut about "Robespierre", or "Ronan" comes out everytime someone is out of argument, I have noticed.
Clear Dharma

Coronado, Portugal

#19 Jul 24, 2013
Pro Ukraine wrote:
<quoted text>He claims to be a Conservative, but is a Stalin apologist and a commie, try and find some of his posts on the Russia forum where he was posting as "ronan" or "Robespierre", he blindly defends Russia in everything it does or has ever done and covers up the crimes of Stalin.
It looked that way to me. But I gave him a chance to say his piece.

“ I'm proud”

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#20 Jul 24, 2013
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
Do I really need to humiliate you by exposing your statement as ridiculous propaganda?
Poland is a failed state, always has been and always will be.
In fact, Poland doesn't deserve to exist.
It was a big mistake of France and Britain to resurrect it after WWI, to punish both Russia (for leaving the war) and Germany (for loosing it) by amputing some of their territories to recreate in 1918 a country that didn't exist since 1795. It was a big mistake as history has shown.
Poland was the cause and the reason for WWII. Britain and France should never have offered to "protect" Poland, and instead let Hitler and Stalin to carve it at will.
Had they done that, we wouldn't have the carnage of WWII and millions of dead.
Half of Poland should really go back to Germany anyway.
Poland is the bigest recipient of EU charity, and will be for the long term future. The country is kept afloat by the rest of Europe, mostly Germany.
What a bunch of nonsense.

I hate to admit it, but when I hear Russians like you talk, it just confirms what many people say, in that Russia does not deserve to exist. How does your Russian talk make Russians feel proud of themselves???

Russia although being much bigger than Poland....ALWAYS NEEDED Germany to attack Poland since it was too cowardly to do so by itself despite Russia being a lot bigger then Poland. How cowardly and treacherous. Those things don't make Russia look noble.

Not to mention Russia GLEEFULLY joined Nazi Germany in dividing up Europe to loot and plunder Europe like VULTURES with the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. It had nothing to do with Russia buying time against Nazi Germany since Moscow thought Germany could not invade Russia until at least 10 years after the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. Russia should be ashamed of itself for always looking for and excuse to steal other nation's territories. Why for instance did Russia steal a chunk of Finland's territory? Answer RAW GREED. Russia did not become the oversized 2000 ton Godzilla sized nation that it is because it does not have greedy, thug tendancies. But of course a Russian supremacist like you bashes Poland to take attention way from Russia's illustrious history of treachery.

In short, Russia should be carved up between the Baltic states, Poland, Ukraine, China and Japan.
rio

London, UK

#21 Jul 24, 2013
Proud Russian wrote:
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What a bunch of nonsense.
I hate to admit it, but when I hear Russians like you talk, it just confirms what many people say, in that Russia does not deserve to exist. How does your Russian talk make Russians feel proud of themselves???
Russia although being much bigger than Poland....ALWAYS NEEDED Germany to attack Poland since it was too cowardly to do so by itself despite Russia being a lot bigger then Poland. How cowardly and treacherous. Those things don't make Russia look noble.
Not to mention Russia GLEEFULLY joined Nazi Germany in dividing up Europe to loot and plunder Europe like VULTURES with the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. It had nothing to do with Russia buying time against Nazi Germany since Moscow thought Germany could not invade Russia until at least 10 years after the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. Russia should be ashamed of itself for always looking for and excuse to steal other nation's territories. Why for instance did Russia steal a chunk of Finland's territory? Answer RAW GREED. Russia did not become the oversized 2000 ton Godzilla sized nation that it is because it does not have greedy, thug tendancies. But of course a Russian supremacist like you bashes Poland to take attention way from Russia's illustrious history of treachery.
In short, Russia should be carved up between the Baltic states, Poland, Ukraine, China and Japan.
What a bunch of nonsense indeed.

Your first mistake is to assume that I am Russian. In fact I am British and see this episode purely from a British point of view.

I have no sympathy for Poland whatsoever; for me it's an historical failure, a country that would have been left forgotten. I blame my country and France for bringing it back to life artificially after WWI. It was better left dead.

Its resurrection caused Europe another world war and misery on an unprecedented scale. My country, and France made two mistakes:first by re-creating Poland and then by pretending to support it. In fact, they had no reason to do either. In 1918/20 it was out of spite with Russia and Germant, in 1939 it was out of fear of both.

Poland has never been of any interest to Britain, and never will. That doesn't detract from the fact that Poles coming to UK are valuable people and welcome here. Their migration is sure indication that they have no great faith in the future of their country!

Apart from that, I am a great fan of Russia, so I won't share your views on the subject. Depicting Russia as an aggressor is rather ridiculous: Russia has been under attack from most of its history, and its military footprint is small compared to the USA.
rio

London, UK

#22 Jul 24, 2013
Proud Russian wrote:
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In short, Russia should be carved up between the Baltic states, Poland, Ukraine, China and Japan.
And you call yourself PROUD RUSSIAN ?

I have hardly see more anti-Russian statement!

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