Alexander the Great was Albanian Documentary

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Hey Greeks It`s time to stop trolling in forums...!

Alexander The Great was an Albanian and nothing will change that, no matter how much more lies and propaganda you spread

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This is a short documentary from the Discovery Channel about Hunza valley and suburb tribes that are the descendants of Alexander the great's army, the ancient Macedonian people from Illyria, Balkans.
Different facts that link the Kalash, Pamiri, and Burusho with the Illyrians (Ancient Macedonians), or nowadays Albanians, the descendants of Illyrians at the Balkans.
The ancient Macedonians were an Illyrian tribe, and there is no doubt that the Alexander the Great was Illyrian, and obviously he was not Greek.
Macedonians is Greek

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ahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Yeah, prove me wrong, please...!
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what 'albos' have to do with Illyria?

albos are turd leftovers
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The Albanian educated system,must be very bad!
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Macedonians is Greek wrote:
The Albanian educated system,must be very bad!
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"educated system" ? lol

yeah I can see that, It`s very obvious
Macedonians is Greek

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The education system of Albanian must be very sad!
What they learn you?
Only to sale drugs and rape a donkeys?
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http://youtu.be/mIRe5tnqRKM
Macedonians is Greek

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prishtina wrote:
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"educated system" ? lol
yeah I can see that, It`s very obvious
Your ancestors
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tosk albanian was macedonian before bulgarian came to balkan.
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Kop wrote:
tosk albanian was macedonian before bulgarian came to balkan.
albania (ns) do not exist

turd leftovers

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Judging by the looks It is the Greeks who look like Turks, you are dark skin/hair/eyes short people.
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prishtina wrote:
Judging by the looks It is the Greeks who look like Turks, you are dark skin/hair/eyes short people.
Your ancestors
https://www.google.gr/url...
Meanwhile,what they teach you in scools?
Only to rape a donkeys and to be drug dealer?
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Meanwhile,the Great Alexander was Greek and not TurkoAlbanian,drug dealer.
https://www.google.gr/url...
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I meant schools!
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prishtina wrote:
Yeah, prove me wrong, please...!
As you can see (below) Alexander the Great Greek himself clearly distinguished the Thracians, Paeonians, Illyrians (the alleged ancestors of modern Albanians) and others as foreigners. And further, as you can also see Alexander the Great Greek clearly identified himself as Greek.

“Our enemies are Medes and Persians, men who for centuries have lived soft and luxurious lives; we of Macedon for generations past have been trained in the hard school of danger and war. Above all, we are free men, and they are slaves. THERE ARE GREEK TROOPS, TO BE SURE, IN PERSIAN SERVICE – BUT HOW DIFFERENT IS THEIR CAUSE FROM OURS! THEY WILL BE FIGHTING FOR PAY – AND NOT MUCH OF IT AT THAT; WE, ON THE CONTRARY, SHALL FIGHT FOR GREECE, AND OUR HEARTS WILL BE IN IT. AS FOR OUR FOREIGN TROOPS – THRACIANS, PAEONIANS, ILLYRIANS, AGRIANES – they are the best and stoutest soldiers in Europe, and they will find as their opponents the slackest and softest of the tribes of Asia. And what, finally, of the two men in supreme command? You have Alexander, they – Darius!”(Arrian, The Campaigns of Alexander, Penguin Classics, page 112)

As regards Epirotes, go fak yourself Western Mountain Turk mutt. History acknowledges their Greekness. Do tell sista, why is almost everything historical in the southern part of modern Albania (i.e. occupied Northern Epirus) Greek. You know, the stuff you mutts are busily destroying.

To bad so sad as regards your wet dream, eh.
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On the Greekness of ancient Macedonia and the ancient Macedonians consider Herodotus, who wrote hundreds of years earlier than the likes of Arrian, Plutarch, Curtius Rufus (before Alexander III, before even Philip II) and wrote of and as regards another Alexander of Macedon ….. another Greek of Macedon.

On Herodotus

“Everything we had, and everything we could get, has been yours; and now, to put the finishing touch to your entertainment, we make you a free and generous offer of our mothers and sisters, that you may know without any doubt that we honour you as you deserve, AND THAT YOU MAY TELL YOUR KING, WHO SENT YOU, THAT A GREEK, THE LORD OF MACEDONIA, ENTERTAINED YOU ROYALLY BOTH WITH BED AND BOARD.”(Herodotus, The Histories, Penguin Classics, page 317 (5, 20))

“I HAPPEN TO KNOW, AND WILL DEMONSTRATE IN A SUBSEQUENT CHAPTER OF THIS HISTORY, THAT THESE DESCENDANTS OF PERDICCAS ARE, AS THEY THEMSELVES CLAIM, OF GREEK NATIONALITY. This was, moreover, recognized by the managers of the Olympic Games, on the occasion when Alexander wished to compete and his Greek competitors tried to exclude him on the ground that foreigners were not allowed to take part. ALEXANDER, HOWEVER, PROVED HIS ARGIVE DESCENT, AND SO WAS ACCEPTED AS A GREEK AND ALLOWED TO ENTER THE FOOT-RACE. He came equal first.”(Herodotus, The Histories, Penguin Classics, page 318 (5, 22))

“The Athenians at once accompanied the guards back to their post, and Alexander delivered his message.‘Men of Athens,’ he said,‘I trust to your honour for what I am about to tell you: keep it a secret from everyone except Pausanias or you will ruin me. I SHOULD NOT BE HERE AT ALL IF I HAD NOT AT HEART THE COMMON WELFARE OF GREECE – I AM MYSELF A GREEK BY DESCENT, AND HAVE NO WISH TO SEE GREECE EXCHANGE HER FREEDOM FOR SLAVERY.”(Herodotus, The Histories, Penguin Classics, page 573 (9, 45))

“This Alexander was descended, in the seventh generation, from Perdiccas, who won the lordship of the Macedonians in the following way. THREE BROTHERS, GAUANES, AEROPUS, AND PERDICCAS, DESCENDANTS OF TEMENUS, HAD BEEN EXPELLED FROM ARGOS and had taken refuge in Illyria. Thence they crossed into upper Macedonia and went to the town of Lebaea,…..”(Herodotus, The Histories, Penguin Classics, page 549 (8, 137))

This is what I know file, Herodotus demolishes Turko-Slav propaganda. For the record file, so does Arrian, and Plutarch, and Curtius Rufus too. We Hellenes couldn't give a stuff what you force yourselves to believe. As you can see, we have the testimony of history. You have the delusional and illusory musings of Stefov and Grezlovski. We win hands down.
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On Arrian

“As an offering to the goddess Athena, he sent to Athens 300 full suits of Persian armour, with the following inscription: ALEXANDER, SON OF PHILIP, AND THE GREEKS (EXCEPT THE LACEDAEMONIANS) DEDICATE THESE SPOILS, TAKEN FROM THE PERSIANS WHO DWELL IN ASIA.”(Arrian, The Campaigns of Alexander, Penguin Classics, page 76)

“Our enemies are Medes and Persians, men who for centuries have lived soft and luxurious lives; we of Macedon for generations past have been trained in the hard school of danger and war. Above all, we are free men, and they are slaves. THERE ARE GREEK TROOPS, TO BE SURE, IN PERSIAN SERVICE – BUT HOW DIFFERENT IS THEIR CAUSE FROM OURS! THEY WILL BE FIGHTING FOR PAY – AND NOT MUCH OF IT AT THAT; WE, ON THE CONTRARY, SHALL FIGHT FOR GREECE, AND OUR HEARTS WILL BE IN IT. As for our foreign troops – Thracians, Paeonians, Illyrians, Agrianes – they are the best and stoutest soldiers in Europe, and they will find as their opponents the slackest and softest of the tribes of Asia. And what, finally, of the two men in supreme command? You have Alexander, they – Darius!”(Arrian, The Campaigns of Alexander, Penguin Classics, page 112)

“Your ancestors invaded Macedonia and Greece and caused great havoc IN OUR COUNTRY, though WE had done nothing to provoke them. As SUPREME COMMANDER OF ALL GREECE I invaded Asia because I wished to punish Persia for this act – an act which must be laid wholly to your charge.”(Arrian, The Campaigns of Alexander, Penguin Classics, page 127)

“Olympias, for her part, continually complained that Antipater’s position and the respect to which it entitled him made him insufferably arrogant; he no longer remembered, she wrote, who had put him where he was, but claimed absolute pre-eminence AMONG HIS FELLOW COUNTRYMEN AND THE REST OF GREECE.”(Arrian, The Campaigns of Alexander, Penguin Classics, page 368)

As you can see, Arrian demolishes Turko-Slav propaganda.
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On Plutarch

“The Persians are said to have lost twenty thousand infantry and two thousand five hundred cavalry, whereas on Alexander’s side, according to Aristobulus, only thirty four soldiers2 in all were killed, nine of them belonging to the infantry. Alexander gave orders that each of these men should have his statue set up in bronze and the work was carried out by Lysippus. AT THE SAME TIME HE WAS ANXIOUS TO GIVE THE OTHER GREEK STATES A SHARE IN THE VICTORY. He therefore sent the Athenians in particular three hundred of the shields captured from the enemy, and over the rest of the spoils he had this proud inscription engraved:

‘ALEXANDER, THE SON OF PHILIP, AND ALL THE GREEKS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE SPARTANS, WON THESE SPOILS OF WAR FROM THE BARBARIANS WHO DWELL IN ASIA.’”(Plutarch, The Age of Alexander, Penguin Classics, pages 269-270)

“It is said that there was a spring near the city of Xanthus in the province of Lycia, which at this moment overflowed and cast up from its depths a bronze tablet: this was inscribed with ancient characters which foretold that the empire of the Persians would be destroyed by the Greeks. ALEXANDER WAS ENCOURAGED BY THIS PROPHECY and pressed on to clear the coast of Asia Minor as far as Cilicia and Phoenicia.”(Plutarch, The Age of Alexander, Penguin Classics, page 270)

“Here Demetrius was proclaimed COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF OF THE GREEKS, AS PHILIP AND ALEXANDER HAD BEEN BEFORE HIM,.....”(Plutarch, The Age of Alexander, Penguin Classics, page 356)

DO TELL TURKO-SLAV, WHAT DO THESE EXTRACTS FROM PLUTARCH TELL US BOTH OF PLUTARCH’S PERCEPTION OF THE MACEDONIANS AS GREEKS AND ALEXANDER’S PERCEPTION OF SELF AS GREEK? AND DO TELL TURKO-SLAV, WHY WOULD ALEXANDER HAVE TAKEN ENCOURAGEMENT FROM A PROPHECY THAT FORETOLD THAT THE EMPIRE OF THE PERSIANS WOULD BE DESTROYED BY THE GREEKS?

I note that this edition of Plutarch is elsewhere cited and quoted by the Scupi propagandist Grezlovski (aka Gandeto). So it must be agreeable to our purposes here, right.
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On Diodorus

Diodorus is considered to be one of the principal surviving sources on Alexander the Great. Ladies and gentlemen and Skopian faks, Diodorus considered:

“Such was the end of Philip, who had made himself the greatest of the kings in Europe in his time, and because of the extent of his kingdom had made himself a throned COMPANION OF THE TWELVE GODS. He had ruled twenty-four years.[2] He is known to fame as one who with but the slenderest resources to support his claim to a throne won for himself THE GREATEST EMPIRE IN THE GREEK WORLD, while the growth of his position was not due so much to his prowess in arms as to his adroitness and cordiality in diplomacy.”
(Diodorus 16.95.1-2)

“he spoke to them in moderate terms and had them pass a resolution APPOINTING HIM GENERAL PLENIPOTENTIARY OF THE GREEKS AND UNDERTAKING THEMSELVES TO JOIN IN AN EXPEDITION AGAINST PERSIA SEEKING SATISFACTION FOR THE OFFENCES WHICH THE PERSIANS HAD COMMITTED AGAINST GREECE”
(Diodorus 17.4.9)

“FOR HE [PHILIP] WAS AMBITIOUS TO BE DESIGNATED GENERAL OF HELLAS IN SUPREME COMMAND AND AS SUCH TO PROSECUTE THE WAR AGAINST THE PERSIANS. And this was what actually came to pass. But these events we shall record severally in their proper periods; we shall now proceed with the thread of our narrative.”
(Diodorus 16.60.5)

“First he [Alexander] dealt with the THESSALIANS, REMINDING THEM OF HIS ANCIENT RELATIONSHIP TO THEM THROUGH HERACLES”
(Diodorus 17.4.1)

“where he convened the assembly of the Amphictyons and had them pass A RESOLUTION GRANTING HIM THE LEADERSHIP OF THE GREEKS”
(Diodorus 17.4.2)

“Antipater and Parmenion advised him to produce an heir first and then to turn his hand to so ambitious an enterprise, but Alexander was eager for action and opposed to any postponement, and spoke against them. IT WOULD BE A DISGRACE, HE POINTED OUT, FOR ONE WHO HAD BEEN APPOINTED BY GREECE TO COMMAND THE WAR, and who had inherited his father’s invincible forces, to sit at home celebrating a marriage and awaiting the birth of children.”
(Diodorus 17.16.2)

Diodorus repudiates, ridicules Scupi propaganda.
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On Quintus Curtius Rufus

There are numerous references in classical texts to Macedonia as Macedonia (and indeed to Macedonians as Macedonians), to Athens as Athens (and indeed to Athenians as Athenians), to Sparta as Sparta (and indeed to Spartans as Spartans) and so forth and so on. This is appropriate as the Macedonians, Athenians, Spartans and other Greeks had their own states and therefore their own “national” identity. In and of itself this says nothing of ethnic identity. There are however, also numerous references in classical texts to the Greekness of the Macedonians or which highlight same. That is, references to the ethnic identity of the Macedonians. Quintus Curtius Rufus is no exception to this. Consider this extract from that source:

“As for Alexander, it is generally agreed that, when sleep had brought him back to his senses after his drunken bout, he regretted his actions and said THAT THE PERSIANS WOULD HAVE SUFFERED A MORE GRIEVOUS PUNISHMENT AT THE HANDS OF THE GREEKS HAD THEY BEEN FORCED TO SEE HIM ON XERXES’ THRONE AND IN HIS PALACE.”(Quintus Curtius Rufus, The History of Alexander, Penguin Classics, page 108 (Curtius Rufus 5.7.11))

This extract tells us unambiguously both of Curtius Rufus’ perception of Alexander and the Macedonians as Greeks and Alexander’s perception of self and the Macedonians as Greeks. Like you can’t discern that, eh.

Curtius Rufus demolishes Scupi propaganda. Do tell file, what gives with that, eh.

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