21 years of independence - a success story - The Baltic Times

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On August 20, Estonia celebrated its Independence Day from the Soviet Union. When those tumultuous times ended, the world gained 15 more independent states.

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#147 Oct 4, 2012
Atasas wrote:
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buthurt?
drunk?
ah why would I be bothered to ask?
just dumbo you are- that's all it maters!
slowackian idiot + zmudzin from proud small LitFuckiaaa =
finnish(laplandian) idiot))

“Been to Polakia...”

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#148 Oct 4, 2012
separatist wrote:
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slowackian idiot + zmudzin from proud small LitFuckiaaa =
finnish(laplandian) idiot))
poor peasant is loosing gift of god to spell..
try again!

“Dimitri at the races in Russia”

Since: Jan 10

Loved everywhere

#149 Oct 5, 2012
http://fu-berlin.academia.edu/GrzegorzRossoli...

All others are happy go lucky to celebrate their prosperity, while Ukrainkas are celebrating fascism, see above.
Lukashenko is Dr Phil

Finland

#150 Oct 5, 2012
Atasas wrote:
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poor peasant is loosing gift of god to spell..
try again!
They are the finest in ukrainka, aren't they. No pig sty like home says the peasant flea dog puke-booby.
tarmo

Tallinn, Estonia

#151 Oct 5, 2012
Karavashk wrote:
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The world lost a good country Yugoslavia and gained 2 average countries (Slovenia, Croatia) 2 war-torn countries (Serbia, Montengro), 2 failed states (Bosnia-Herzegovina, Kosovo) and 1 lost state on the verge of war which it cannot fight alone (FYROM)
The world lost one serboderzhavist empire - good riddance.

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#152 Oct 5, 2012
tarmo wrote:
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The world lost one serboderzhavist empire - good riddance.
And has gained 4 dysfunctional states, nice.

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#153 Oct 5, 2012
whining about current state of states is rather populistic $rap. Most voices are below 0 knowledge as how what it meant them days.
Yup some did better, some worse- matter of learning to accept general "what if one knew what he knows now"... I'd be multibilionaire now!

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#154 Oct 5, 2012
Atasas wrote:
whining about current state of states is rather populistic $rap. Most voices are below 0 knowledge as how what it meant them days.
Yup some did better, some worse- matter of learning to accept general "what if one knew what he knows now"... I'd be multibilionaire now!
Everyone was better off in Yugoslavia than they are now, but they let stupid Greater this, Ethnic that destroy everything.

“Been to Polakia...”

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#155 Oct 5, 2012
Karavashk wrote:
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Everyone was better off in Yugoslavia than they are now, but they let stupid Greater this, Ethnic that destroy everything.
Congrats!
you just won a holiday to N Korea for a year!
Get a grip, accept different factors or idolize Cun$ Job Ill for a while
tarmo

Tallinn, Estonia

#156 Oct 5, 2012
Karavashk wrote:
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And has gained 4 dysfunctional states, nice.
For which one can blame that same dysfunctional deceased serboderzhavist empire.

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#157 Oct 5, 2012
tarmo wrote:
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For which one can blame that same dysfunctional deceased serboderzhavist empire.
No actually the most dysfunctional states are Kosovo, which there is no one to blame but Talibanians and the other being BiH which is mainly Bosnians and Serbs to blame. FYROM is not dysfunctional but Talibanians are really trying hard to turn it into a failed state, only makes life worse for them. And I just included Serbia on the list because it is not doing to well either but is nowhere near as bad as Kosovo or Bosnia.
tarmo

Tallinn, Estonia

#158 Oct 5, 2012
Karavashk wrote:
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No actually the most dysfunctional states are Kosovo, which there is no one to blame but Talibanians
No, actually the failed serboderzhavist empire would have been much worse than even Kosovo.

Good riddance.
Warrior Poet UG X

Eugene, OR

#159 Oct 5, 2012
Oh my-- I took a couple of weeks off of the forum to do things that WERE important. When I returned I had hoped to find some intellectual evollution. Sadly-- no luck. Just the same old fools spouting the same hate-filled nonsense. Oh I must say we got a couple of retreads (Ata-ass etc.) back but that does not improve anything. I guess I will find some more things worth doing. It will not be had as ANTHING is more worthwhile than the drivel on the forum.

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#160 Oct 5, 2012
tarmo wrote:
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No, actually the failed serboderzhavist empire would have been much worse than even Kosovo.
Good riddance.
Oh really let me see what comes to mind when I think of Kosovo: starving, 50% unemployed, ethnic conflict, poorest in Europe, highest crime rate, drug dealer haven, organ trafficking, war torn, depleted uranium pollution. The truth is the empire wasn't worse so you can say how worse it would have been but it never got worse so we truly don't know whether what you are saying is correct. So Talibanians wanted Kosovo they had it, now let them starve to death.
tarmo

Tallinn, Estonia

#161 Oct 6, 2012
Karavashk wrote:
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Oh really let me see what comes to mind when I think of Kosovo: starving, 50% unemployed, ethnic conflict, poorest in Europe, highest crime rate, drug dealer haven, organ trafficking, war torn, depleted uranium pollution.
The serboderzhavist empire had all those, except uranium pollution, and then some. And the uranium pollution could have been avoided by the serboderzhavist empire by giving in to international demands.

The truth is the serboderzhavist empire was worse.
Good riddance.

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#162 Oct 6, 2012
tarmo wrote:
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The serboderzhavist empire had all those, except uranium pollution, and then some. And the uranium pollution could have been avoided by the serboderzhavist empire by giving in to international demands.
The truth is the serboderzhavist empire was worse.
Good riddance.
Actually nobody was starving in Yugoslavia, everybody was employed until the wars started, their were no ethnic conflicts until everybody decided they wanted to be a nationalist, it was by no means the poorest in Europe, it wasn't a drug haven, there was no organ trafficking, and the internationals are to blame for DU pollution, DU didn't have to be used, but Kosovo wanted independence and to be poor, so there choice let them enjoy. And there are many other empire which need to collapse, Turkish empire over the Kurds, Spanish empire over the Basques and Catalonians, British empire over Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland and the American empire over the Mexicans.
tarmo

Tallinn, Estonia

#163 Oct 7, 2012
Karavashk wrote:
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Actually nobody was starving in Yugoslavia
Actually, they were, since the civil/independence wars were started by the serboderzhavist empire.

Both slavoderzhavist empires decided to seize the opportunity of the first Gulf War tying up NATO forces to retaliate to peaceful independence movements.
Karavashk wrote:
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everybody was employed until the wars started
Started by the serboderzhavist empire.
Karavashk wrote:
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their were no ethnic conflicts until everybody decided they wanted to be a nationalist
Save your drivel. I am familiar enough of the politics before the wars. The fact that you blame nationals speaks volumes of you.
Karavashk wrote:
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and the internationals are to blame for DU pollution, DU didn't have to be used
The Serboderzhavist empire (or rather what was left of it) is equally to blame for DU pollution. Without the serboderzhavist empire there would have been no need for DU or any heavy involvement from NATO.
Karavashk wrote:
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And there are many other empire which need to collapse
Sure, but that is not good for an excuse.
AbeUG

Bedminster, NJ

#164 Oct 7, 2012
Warrior Poet UG X wrote:
Oh my-- I took a couple of weeks off of the forum to do things that WERE important. When I returned I had hoped to find some intellectual evollution. Sadly-- no luck. Just the same old fools spouting the same hate-filled nonsense. Oh I must say we got a couple of retreads (Ata-ass etc.) back but that does not improve anything. I guess I will find some more things worth doing. It will not be had as ANTHING is more worthwhile than the drivel on the forum.
You are right. Ata-ass is a retread.

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#165 Oct 7, 2012
tarmo wrote:
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Actually, they were, since the civil/independence wars were started by the serboderzhavist empire.
Both slavoderzhavist empires decided to seize the opportunity of the first Gulf War tying up NATO forces to retaliate to peaceful independence movements.
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Started by the serboderzhavist empire.
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Save your drivel. I am familiar enough of the politics before the wars. The fact that you blame nationals speaks volumes of you.
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The Serboderzhavist empire (or rather what was left of it) is equally to blame for DU pollution. Without the serboderzhavist empire there would have been no need for DU or any heavy involvement from NATO.
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Sure, but that is not good for an excuse.
How did Serbia start the civil wars: nobody forced Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia and Kosovo to demand independence, they knew that independence would cause war and that the result will be poverty and starving. Imagine if Texas or Arizona or New Mexico decided hey lets just be independent today, do you think the USA will just sit there and say ok cool, no of course not there will be war.

Peaceful independent movements, how do peaceful independent movements get armed with AK47's and missiles, something is very unpeaceful here.

Same my drivel, I lived in Yugoslavia, my home country wasn't in Yugoslavia, and I think I am more familiar than someone in Estonia. Everyone started being nationalist, we want independence and an ethnically pure state of our own with no minorities.

And please tell why was DU needed. If someone is holding you hostage in your home is the police now gonna show up with Depleted Uranium Missiles and start destroying your whole house. There were many other ways to get rid of the Serbs which did not involve anything radioactive, the DU was meant for one purpose and one purpose only, to destroy, to contaminate land for the rest of its existence and to kill. Its the Albanians and Bosnians which have suffered the most DU not the Serbs, plus the radiation affects the whole Balkans, that means Croatia, Greece and Bulgaria.

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