The Falklands, what Argentinian province would it be under in 2012?

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JEM

Albufeira, Portugal

#1 Jun 23, 2012
Hypothetically speaking here, I would like to know what province the Argentinans ascribe to the Falklands
Ricardo

Laferrere, Argentina

#2 Jun 23, 2012
Malvinas is part of the Tierra del Fuego and South Atlantic Islands Province
Capitol, Ushuaia
Governor: Fabiana Rios (not from the government party)
Beautiful Province and nice patagonian people
Google it...is a top class international tourism destination.
Ace McCloud

UK

#3 Jun 24, 2012
If the Argentine government ever got the Islands, I suspect they would make a new province to self congratulate themselves.

Then they would begin the gradual process of removing the existing native population through nefarious methods.

It must never happen. Too many died trying to protect the Islanders from the oppression and facism of the Argentine government.

It should never happen. If we the people of the world allowed this to happen then we would not really have progressed much as a human race in the last 200 years.
JEM

Albufeira, Portugal

#4 Jun 24, 2012
Ricardo wrote:
Malvinas is part of the Tierra del Fuego and South Atlantic Islands Province
Capitol, Ushuaia
Governor: Fabiana Rios (not from the government party)
Beautiful Province and nice patagonian people
Google it...is a top class international tourism destination.
My father in law went there a couplr of years ago and said it was beautiful...
But my confusion is that Tierrs del Fuego was incorporated in the confederation in 1880, some 50 years after the Flaklands were inhabited by the British, how would that work in law to claim it is part of an area that wasn´t Argentinas in 1833

Since: Apr 12

Goianésia, Brazil

#5 Jun 24, 2012
Ace,

Exactly, blood was spilt to defend the Falklanders and the Islands can never go back politically to the way things were pre 1982.
Ace McCloud wrote:
If the Argentine government ever got the Islands, I suspect they would make a new province to self congratulate themselves.
Then they would begin the gradual process of removing the existing native population through nefarious methods.
It must never happen. Too many died trying to protect the Islanders from the oppression and facism of the Argentine government.
It should never happen. If we the people of the world allowed this to happen then we would not really have progressed much as a human race in the last 200 years.
Ricardo

Buenos Aires, Argentina

#6 Jun 25, 2012
Ace McCloud wrote:
If the Argentine government ever got the Islands, I suspect they would make a new province to self congratulate themselves.
Then they would begin the gradual process of removing the existing native population through nefarious methods.
It must never happen. Too many died trying to protect the Islanders from the oppression and facism of the Argentine government.
It should never happen. If we the people of the world allowed this to happen then we would not really have progressed much as a human race in the last 200 years.
Not at all, ignorant
It is determined since long ago to which Province the Islands Belong
The Islands can not be a Province on their own, obviously
Ricardo

Buenos Aires, Argentina

#7 Jun 25, 2012
Ace McCloud wrote:
then we would not really have progressed much as a human race in the last 200 years.
Certainly Britain did not...still holding to colonial enclaves in the 21st Century
10 out of 16 Colonial cases in the UN Decolonization Committee involve the UK...and of course not as the colonized party..
Ricardo

Buenos Aires, Argentina

#8 Jun 25, 2012
JEM wrote:
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My father in law went there a couplr of years ago and said it was beautiful...
But my confusion is that Tierrs del Fuego was incorporated in the confederation in 1880, some 50 years after the Flaklands were inhabited by the British, how would that work in law to claim it is part of an area that wasn´t Argentinas in 1833
You people are tiring...yes, tierra del Fuego acquired relatively recently the Province status, as other argentine Provinces...before that, the Malvinas were considered (even though they were taken by the british) as Federal Territory...you always here try this idiotic things...as if the differences or the non existence of the exact present days political organization back in 1833 would have any relevance to our rights over Malvinas...they are part of our territory and we decide their political dependence as we see fit in different moments of our history
The Argentine territory political division evolved much like the U.S. one...with "National Territories" depending of the Central Government, then passing to be States (Provinces in our case)
Ace McCloud

UK

#9 Jun 25, 2012
Ricardo wrote:
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You people are tiring...yes, tierra del Fuego acquired relatively recently the Province status, as other argentine Provinces...before that, the Malvinas were considered (even though they were taken by the british) as Federal Territory...you always here try this idiotic things...as if the differences or the non existence of the exact present days political organization back in 1833 would have any relevance to our rights over Malvinas...they are part of our territory and we decide their political dependence as we see fit in different moments of our history
The Argentine territory political division evolved much like the U.S. one...with "National Territories" depending of the Central Government, then passing to be States (Provinces in our case)
mmmmmm except that they are not part of your territory.
Ricardo

Buenos Aires, Argentina

#10 Jun 25, 2012
Ace McCloud wrote:
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mmmmmm except that they are not part of your territory.
mmmmm except that they are
(at least as supported as your comment ha ha)
Ricardo

Buenos Aires, Argentina

#11 Jun 25, 2012
camelunghi wrote:
Ace,
Exactly, blood was spilt to defend the Falklanders and the Islands can never go back politically to the way things were pre 1982.
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Camelunghy...from pious missionary to hardline warmonger
That's evolution, man
Ace McCloud

UK

#12 Jun 25, 2012
No Ricardo!

Really they are not! FACT.

When did you last look at an Atlas? And I dont mean one of those 'Special' Argentinian versions you have in your schools.

Since: Apr 12

Rio De Janeiro, Brazil

#13 Jun 25, 2012
Ricardo,

And of course we can rely on you for unbiased and objective reasoning
Ricardo wrote:
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Camelunghy...from pious missionary to hardline warmonger
That's evolution, man
Ricardo

Buenos Aires, Argentina

#14 Jun 25, 2012
camelunghi wrote:
Ricardo,
And of course we can rely on you for unbiased and objective reasoning
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Well....should we rather rely on you, a man who believes in the multiplication of the fish, the turning of water into wine, the creation of the Universe in six days, and so many other very rational things?
Ricardo

Buenos Aires, Argentina

#15 Jun 25, 2012
Ace McCloud wrote:
No Ricardo!
Really they are not! FACT.
When did you last look at an Atlas? And I dont mean one of those 'Special' Argentinian versions you have in your schools.
Well, your maps say british, ours say argentine, and all the rest say Falklands (Malvinas) U.K.-Claimed by Argentina
Ricardo

Buenos Aires, Argentina

#16 Jun 25, 2012
And now it seems that who decide on sovereignity disputes are the Atlas editors.
Surprising.
Ricardo

Buenos Aires, Argentina

#17 Jun 25, 2012
The U.S. was clear only weeks ago...they only recognize your DE FACTO ADMINISTRATION
And we are talking your best (and only, really) friends in the World
It had to have hurt..

Since: Apr 12

Brazil

#18 Jun 25, 2012
Ricardo,

Millions of people believe the same as I and are very blessed....
Ricardo wrote:
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Well....should we rather rely on you, a man who believes in the multiplication of the fish, the turning of water into wine, the creation of the Universe in six days, and so many other very rational things?
Ace McCloud

UK

#19 Jun 25, 2012
Ricardo

Should your Atlas not also read Falklands (Malvinas) U.K.-Claimed by Argentina?

That must be why your soliders expected to find an enslaved population of you countrymen when they invaded in 1982.

indoctrinated morons.

BTW Ricardo, UK also speaks to all nations around the globe with large emabassy staff in most countries. The difference is we do not get excited and shout about it everytime a politician travels abroad.
The1goodthingtha tcherdid

Bucharest, Romania

#20 Jun 26, 2012
Ace McCloud wrote:
That must be why your soliders expected to find an enslaved population of you countrymen when they invaded in 1982.
indoctrinated morons..
The radio documentary made for BBC R3 by the Anglo-Argentine Guardian writer was very interesting in this respect. The Argentine soldiers talking about the war still sounded shocked 40 years on to find the place was full of English speakers.

BTW, is it just me who finds the Spanish use of the word "kelper" annoying? I've never heard it used in English.

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