Argentina running scared of Falkland Islands Referendum..?

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Deanstreet

Stanley, Falkland Islands (Malvinas)

#1 Nov 26, 2012
Argentina organizing major diplomatic Falklands “anti-referendum” campaign

Argentina has began a major diplomatic campaign in an attempt to deny success to the Falkland Islands March referendum on its nationals’ political status, fearing the negative international repercussions for its sovereignty claims over the disputed Islands.

The basic thrust, according to reports in the Buenos Aires press will be to display in international forums and in all Argentine diplomatic sees a direct message on the ‘illegitimacy” of the referendum organized by the Falklands’ government and in which the locals will decide whether to remain as a British Overseas Territory, based on their right to self-determination.

Concerned about the international repercussions of the referendum, Foreign minister Hector Timerman has summoned Ambassador Alicia Castro from London to elaborate an ‘anti-referendum’ strategy. The main target: a propaganda campaign in the UK to try and convince British political personalities or outstanding names from attending the Falklands as observers of the March referendum, and thus reaffirming the legitimacy and transparency of the event.

A second effort, again according to the Buenos Aires media, is that Timerman has instructed two top diplomats to make a tour of the Caribbean and Africa to inform of the “legitimate rights” of Argentina over the Malvinas Islands and on the ‘inconvenience’ of sending observers to the referendum. The places chosen for the round of visits intend to target Commonwealth members or those with close links with the UK.

The dissuasive strategy of the Argentine government also includes sending a release which has already reached several Argentine embassies overseas and instructing diplomats to alert the political leaders of those countries on the ‘illegitimacy’ of the referendum.

Argentina has also taken notice of the more active approach of the UK towards Latin America, the most recent the reopening of the embassy in El Salvador with the attendance of Foreign Office minister Hugo Swire.

In his speech Minister Swire said “the Foreign Secretary (William Hague) and I continue to work to increase our engagement with Latin America. We have been away too long and this much-overdue Embassy signals just how serious we are about expanding in the region”.

“The decision to re-open an Embassy in El Salvador was made in May 2011. This followed a shift in UK policy on Latin America, summed up by the Foreign Secretary William Hague’s 2010 Canning House speech where he said that the UK had not devoted enough attention to the region; the countries of the region have a growing role in international affairs”.

Another matter of concern for Argentina diplomacy are the visits of journalists from the Americas and the Caribbean which take back the Falklands’ point of view on the sovereignty dispute as well as the recent round of media contacts and interviews in several Latinamerican countries, US and Canada, by members from the Legislative Assembly.

http://en.mercopress.com/2012/11/26/argentina...
Texas Pete

Louisville, KY

#3 Nov 26, 2012
It is no surprise Argentina is running scared. It amazes me reading the views of some of the Argentinians on here! They sound like Nazis. How can they be so blind? They must live very sheltered lives.

Good luck to you guys in the Falklands.
Martin

Manchester, UK

#4 Dec 5, 2012
There's about as much chance of the Falklanders voting for Argentina as the people of Gibralter voting for Spain.
francisco

Argentina

#5 Dec 6, 2012
Asustadicimos estamos!.

En este momento, estoy tecleando este post desde debajo de la cama.

:-D

Idiotas...

:-D
francisco

Argentina

#6 Dec 6, 2012
Texas Pete wrote:
It is no surprise Argentina is running scared. It amazes me reading the views of some of the Argentinians on here! They sound like Nazis. How can they be so blind? They must live very sheltered lives.
Good luck to you guys in the Falklands.
Los nazis recibimos ayuda militar y policial de tu país (USA).

Tan nazis no somos si tus senadores pierden su tiempo visitandonos para ver una demostracion de nuestro trabajo conjunto contra las drogas y el terrorismo...
BritBob

Slough, UK

#7 Dec 8, 2012
I would have to agree with Mr. Ban Ki-Moon when he was speaking to Argentine newspaper reporters on colonialism on 12th November 2012, Quote,'People should be able to decide their own future.'
Ricardo

Laferrere, Argentina

#8 Dec 8, 2012
Yeah, scared to death
What day it will be?
Ricardo

Laferrere, Argentina

#9 Dec 8, 2012
Martin wrote:
There's about as much chance of the Falklanders voting for Argentina as the people of Gibralter voting for Spain.
Yeah, and there is also the same chance to be considered by anyone as the Gibraltar one had
The UN did not accept it as having any relevance for the issue, which is a sovereignity dispute between two Nations, the only parts in that.
British voting for themselves...it is taking the world as idiots pretending that obviety to be taken seriously
Ricardo

Laferrere, Argentina

#10 Dec 8, 2012
Asany half smart person knows...the real Issue is that the UK wants Gibraltar and Malvinas for their strategic value, and the wishes of the implanted populations are just a lame excuse
Terry Hill

Săo Paulo, Brazil

#11 Dec 8, 2012
Ricardo wrote:
Asany half smart person knows...the real Issue is that the UK wants Gibraltar and Malvinas for their strategic value, and the wishes of the implanted populations are just a lame excuse
I understand now, your handicapped because your only a half-smart person. Again assertions and no proof, what else should I expect.
Deanstreet

Stanley, Falkland Islands (Malvinas)

#12 Dec 8, 2012
Ricardo wrote:
Asany half smart person knows...the real Issue is that the UK wants Gibraltar and Malvinas for their strategic value, and the wishes of the implanted populations are just a lame excuse
riccie baby,

if what you say is true..

What you going to do about..?

Cry into your yerba mate..?

That's about as much as you will do..

Kindest regards from the Falkland Islands
Ricardo

Laferrere, Argentina

#13 Dec 9, 2012
Terry Hill wrote:
<quoted text>
I understand now, your handicapped because your only a half-smart person. Again assertions and no proof, what else should I expect.
Haha very funny
British humor reputation deserves better
You ask for proof of historical facts...that sounds half smart to me
Ricardo

Laferrere, Argentina

#14 Dec 9, 2012
Deanstreet wrote:
<quoted text>
riccie baby,
if what you say is true..
What you going to do about..?
Cry into your yerba mate..?
That's about as much as you will do..
Kindest regards from the Falkland Islands
You keep repeating that and you may end actually believing it and curing your anxiety
And then you would stop living in this Forum, which is the evidence that your pretended absolute confidence is not so
BritBob

UK

#15 Dec 9, 2012
The Falkland Islands were claimed by Britain in 1765. Argentina has attempted to claim them since 1829; a claim based on an UNRECOGNISED inheritance from Spain, and geography. Britain fully supports the Falkland Islanders' right to self-determination as enshrined in the UN Charter.

Present day Argentina is not a place anyone would want to be associated with.

www.atfa.org/
Ricardo

Haedo, Argentina

#16 Dec 9, 2012
BritBob wrote:
The Falkland Islands were claimed by Britain in 1765. Argentina has attempted to claim them since 1829; a claim based on an UNRECOGNISED inheritance from Spain, and geography. Britain fully supports the Falkland Islanders' right to self-determination as enshrined in the UN Charter.
Present day Argentina is not a place anyone would want to be associated with.
www.atfa.org/
Funny, because I live very well and happy here...better than you I bet
And I am not any exceptional guy
Dozens of international Companies are here, many british, so that "association aversion" you pretend is obviously bullshit
Deanstreet

Stanley, Falkland Islands (Malvinas)

#17 Dec 9, 2012
Ricardo wrote:
<quoted text>
You keep repeating that and you may end actually believing it and curing your anxiety
And then you would stop living in this Forum, which is the evidence that your pretended absolute confidence is not so
riccie baby,

what's required is evidence my dear little malvinista..

E-V-I-D-E-N-C-E....

Are you able to provide any of this as yet.. or are you going to remain with opinions which YOU regard as proof/evidence(You know what I mean, you say something and the rest of the world is supposed to believe without question)..

You still haven't posted the evidence to support your claim of the official protest of the 1880s..

You say there was protest/s, and I'm quite prepared to believe, buy only with supporting evidence/proof..

By the way, there's me spouting on about evidence/proof - but, do you actually understand or heard of this concept/principle..?

Kindest regards from the Falkland Islands
JEM

Loulé, Portugal

#18 Dec 10, 2012
Morning all...just a quick question for the Malvistas on here.

'What is your defenition of Negotiation?' I ask this because it seems that negotiation has a different meaning in Argentina than it does to the rest of the world. All I can gather from the pro- Malvistas is that to negotiate means handing over sovereignty of the islands. Is this correct?
If this is not ture what do want from negotiations?

I would also like to know why the Argentinians think they deserve any negotiations over the Falklands after '82. From the british and UN point of view, you tried to illegally invade and steal the islands and when that failed you throw your toys out the pram when the UK government does not want to negotiatie, are you really suprised by that, just think about it for a moment. What you want is tantamount to being rewarded and getting what you want for illegal behaviour, sorry guys we don't do that here.
JEM

London, UK

#19 Dec 12, 2012
Ahhh silence.....just like every other time they are asked what their idea of negotiations are and what there is to negotiate over....your silence my dear Argentinian friends speak volumes.

Since: Dec 12

Kraków, Poland

#20 Dec 12, 2012
I think the referendum is not meant to convince Argentina. Argentinians do not have doubts that the Islanders prefer British sovereignty. They simply say that the residents are "implanted". In some sense most of the populations in the world are "implanted". I think the referendum is meant to convince the world community, which might have little knowledge of what happened on the Islands. It is also addressed to the British government or rather British governments in the future, which might one day think that it would be useful to hand over the Islands like they did with Hong Kong (I know there were differences, nevertheless the comparison is often made). So I think it is good to have the referendum, because it is an official confirmation of the wishes of the inhabitants.
Deanstreet

Stanley, Falkland Islands (Malvinas)

#21 Dec 12, 2012
Olenka wrote:
I think the referendum is not meant to convince Argentina. Argentinians do not have doubts that the Islanders prefer British sovereignty. They simply say that the residents are "implanted". In some sense most of the populations in the world are "implanted". I think the referendum is meant to convince the world community, which might have little knowledge of what happened on the Islands. It is also addressed to the British government or rather British governments in the future, which might one day think that it would be useful to hand over the Islands like they did with Hong Kong (I know there were differences, nevertheless the comparison is often made). So I think it is good to have the referendum, because it is an official confirmation of the wishes of the inhabitants.
Olenka,

I think for me, the important reason for the referendum, is not for the British or argentine..

It is for the rest of the world - it'll show that we the Falkland islanders are exercising our right to SELF-DETERMINATION, as approved and enshrined in the Charter and the Covenant of the United Nations.
With this referendum, we will be showing the world what we wish for, no more, no less..

Now if argentina wishes to annexe or colonise us, would you not think that they would send a team here to attempt to convince us..?

Hong Kong, the British had no choice whatsoever in handing over the territory.
The Chinese had a legal right, and there was no getting away from this.
You see the British only occupied the territory under a legally binding 99 year lease.

By the way, the idea of a referendum came from here, and no where else..

Here's a thought for you Olenka..

"The Special Committee on the Situation with regard to the Implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence of Colonial Countries and Peoples"

http://www.un.org/en/decolonization/specialco...

Now the Decolonization Committee in it's preamble recognize us as a country and as a people...

So why doesn't all recognize this, especially some of the members.

You see if we are not recognised as a people nor as a country, then why are we on the list..?
Do you see my point..?

Kindest regards from the Falkland Islands

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