Mob storms Belfast City Hall over UK flag vote

Dec 3, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Anchorage Daily News

Loyalist protestors, some of them carrying British flags, gather as councillors debate whether or not to keep the flag flying at City Hall, outside City Hall, Belfast, Northern Ireland, Monday, Dec.

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Your not tuned into reality. I have ALWAYS condemned innocent people being killed on here regardless of who done it, so I don't know why your having a go off me about it. Totally unfounded accusations.
While you despise a religious minority so much you want them all shipped out of your country.
I don't think you have any moral high ground....
you must remind me,when and where i stated i:
"despise a religious minority so much you want them all shipped out of your country"

as i have never said anything of the sort you will struggle,and no where on Topix will you find a post of mine despising Catholics.

you are confusing my contempt for murdering terrorist vermin(of ALL religions and colours)with contempt for Catholics,in a vain attempt to brand anyone who despises murdering terrorist scum as "bigots"

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If the nationalists were the only terrorists and the loyalists the only victims, I could understand your position.
But you and I, and the rest of the world knows that the loyalists themselves have their own terrorists, their own death squads, their own paramilitary.
So, it's like the pot calling the kettle black.
There would have been no terrorism from the nationalist side, if they had been treated correctly and not denied their civil rights for so long. Now the unionists get what they deserve, and I won't shed a tear for them.
give me a thread name and post# were i have supported/denied Loyalist terror.

there thats not too hard is it?
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No. There is equality in NI now, the power is shifting democratically into the hands of the nationalists. There is no need for fighting now, they've already won. Evidence can be seen in all this rioting over the union flag coming down. They now look desperate, the demographic clock is ticking, they'll be a minority soon. Their losing their power and they don't like it, but their losing it democratically so there is diddly squat they can do about it, without embarrassing themselves further.
You keep forgetting that even that Catholics in NI don't want to be part of the economic pariah you are unfortunate enough to live in.

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This Tuesday 11th December sees the 41st anniversary of the Balmoral bombing on the Shankill Road.The brave ira planted a bomb which exploded and killed 2 men,aged 70 and 29,plus 2 young children aged 2 and 17 months.20 people were injured in this barbaric attack.The terrorist psychos who carried out this crime are the heroes of pricks like RIO/RONAN and his ilk.
RIO/RONAN will be celebrating this anniversary in the usual way,with a small party at his house,he does enjoy it when Republican terrorists murder children.
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Im a 43 yrs old catholic lived thru all the crapppy days in west belfast Ive travelled alot and have been home over 10yrs now.
I CAN HONESTLY SAY I HOPE THERE NEVER IS A UNITED IRELAND AND I ALWAYS WANT TO BE PART OF THE UK
I KNOW ALOT OF PEOLPE JUST THE SAME AS MYSELF AND THEY ARE ALL CATHOLICS
LET THE FLAG BE UP THERE IF THEY WANT WE ALL KNOW KNOW THEY ARE ALL LITTLE CHILDREN TAKING TANTRUMS
IT WILL PASS
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no way wrote:
Im a 43 yrs old catholic lived thru all the crapppy days in west belfast Ive travelled alot and have been home over 10yrs now.
I CAN HONESTLY SAY I HOPE THERE NEVER IS A UNITED IRELAND AND I ALWAYS WANT TO BE PART OF THE UK
I KNOW ALOT OF PEOLPE JUST THE SAME AS MYSELF AND THEY ARE ALL CATHOLICS
LET THE FLAG BE UP THERE IF THEY WANT WE ALL KNOW KNOW THEY ARE ALL LITTLE CHILDREN TAKING TANTRUMS
IT WILL PASS
i know catholics who think the same but why you want to remain in uk.. iv told this forum before iv they had the choice tomorrow it would be a landslide to stay in g.b, not very many nationists would vote to join ireland or the euro.
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Maybe Ive just been conditioned to the way it is...my mother is from Dublin and I was born in Bray ....she thinks the same as me.
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Well, Britain isn't a totalitarian state. London will never emulate Moscow of Beijing in terms of cruaulty. We respect human rights, and the due process of law; plus democracy. Something the loyalists wanted Westminster to ignore.
The fact is that, in spite of what you said, Gerry Adams and Martin McGuiness weren't criminals in the legal sense. British surveillance was never able to pin them down as IRA leaders, and in our country, without evidence presented, there is no chance of prosecution, hence to power of arrest.
Anyone has the right to express himself, and Gerry and Martin were political leaders who didn't seem to break any law being so.
The RUC, mostly composed of protestants, was heavily bias towards the Loyalists, something that played against them in many instances, notably in court cases. The fact that the Loyalist side was so outside the law, with the collusion between the RUC, the UDR, some British Army and the loyalist paramilitary was the downfall of the Unionist case, as far as Westminster was concerned. You brought the house crashing down on yourself!
Now, if you think about taking revenge against known nationalists in spite of the Peace Process, that would just prove that you don't intend to stick to its terms. Well, that doesn't surprise me one bit!
you are so one sided in your view you cant see whats in front of you... i said 99% above i didnt say it didnt happen it was a few bad apples.. if this cowardly war was carried out agains against your american friends the death toll would have been much much higher most british forces acted very pro in my view ... when john [grug] greg bore down on gerry adams on the west link about to finish him off.. why if they were so against them did the british shot and stop them taking gerry out.. they knew before hand it was going to happen why not turn a blind eye..
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Maybe Ive just been conditioned to the way it is...my mother is from Dublin and I was born in Bray ....she thinks the same as me.
fair play and good to see a diff view from the other side on here ..rio is from england and he hates every thing british i love n.ireland and am prod to be part of it.. the south has nothing to offer us but debt and euro hell in the future.
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To be honest ...and im putting my neck out here
I GREW UP IN A PLACE WHERE EVERYTHING BRITISH ENGLISH ETC ETC WAS HATED WITH A VENGENCE...
BUT NOW AFTER YEARS OF BEING QUITE HAPPY TO ACCEPT THE UK GOVERNMENTS EASY HAND OUTS....REMEMBER THE LOANS, GRANTS ETC?? THE CATHOLICS SPONGED TO THE HILT...BUT I BET THEY ARE NOW GLAD TO SEE THE QUEENS HEAD ON A TENNER
IN THE WORDS OF ALANIS MORRISETTE
"Is"nt it IRONIC dont ya think"
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no way wrote:
To be honest ...and im putting my neck out here
I GREW UP IN A PLACE WHERE EVERYTHING BRITISH ENGLISH ETC ETC WAS HATED WITH A VENGENCE...
BUT NOW AFTER YEARS OF BEING QUITE HAPPY TO ACCEPT THE UK GOVERNMENTS EASY HAND OUTS....REMEMBER THE LOANS, GRANTS ETC?? THE CATHOLICS SPONGED TO THE HILT...BUT I BET THEY ARE NOW GLAD TO SEE THE QUEENS HEAD ON A TENNER
IN THE WORDS OF ALANIS MORRISETTE
"Is"nt it IRONIC dont ya think"
lol. and what about the falls m8 is their as many on the d.l.a. as is made out in the press etc

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<quoted text>well all in all i think 99% of them done a stand up job. look if this was played out over 30years in america or russia etc you would still be picking boddies of the street .. i think the republican community got off light as any other state would have waterboarded gerry and martin every half hour and electric shocks every other..
The Republican community got off light?

YOU LOT got off lightly....

Don't you ever forget that....

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Im a 43 yrs old catholic lived thru all the crapppy days in west belfast Ive travelled alot and have been home over 10yrs now.
I CAN HONESTLY SAY I HOPE THERE NEVER IS A UNITED IRELAND AND I ALWAYS WANT TO BE PART OF THE UK
I KNOW ALOT OF PEOLPE JUST THE SAME AS MYSELF AND THEY ARE ALL CATHOLICS
LET THE FLAG BE UP THERE IF THEY WANT WE ALL KNOW KNOW THEY ARE ALL LITTLE CHILDREN TAKING TANTRUMS
IT WILL PASS
Haha hello ICR, hows it going? You like your new name? Could have at least changed your location, but how and ever.....
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im a sad republican who hates protestants and anything british i have denied supporting or being a member of the ira on here but im only following in the footsteps of my hero gerry adams and as he says we havnt gone away ya know. lol

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You keep forgetting that even that Catholics in NI don't want to be part of the economic pariah you are unfortunate enough to live in.
You keep misunderstanding, you really are quite a bit thick aren't you? Really dumb....Never even got back to the post on this thread where I discussed this with you.

The Catholic/traditionally nationalist community will soon be the majority, there will be huge changes in NI and its symbolism, and it will all be done democratically, just as lowering this flag has happened, several other changes will happen democratically that the Unionist nutters won't be able to do anything about. These changes will bring more equality in NI.

Bit by bit the orange state is being chipped away at, bit by bit the ''Britishness'' of NI is dying off, and its all happening democratically. So there is nothing they can do about it except embarass themselves in front of the world.

Facts are NI days as an orange, British-only state are finished. Whether it remains in the UK or not.....

And they (unionists) can't do nothing about it. Their hands are tied by the Good Friday Agreement....I hope they enjoy their future, I'm sure going to enjoy watching theirs :)

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<quoted text>i know catholics who think the same but why you want to remain in uk.. iv told this forum before iv they had the choice tomorrow it would be a landslide to stay in g.b, not very many nationists would vote to join ireland or the euro.
Why would they?

When they will soon have the main political power in NI? And soon be a majority?

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you must remind me,when and where i stated i:
"despise a religious minority so much you want them all shipped out of your country"
as i have never said anything of the sort you will struggle,and no where on Topix will you find a post of mine despising Catholics.
you are confusing my contempt for murdering terrorist vermin(of ALL religions and colours)with contempt for Catholics,in a vain attempt to brand anyone who despises murdering terrorist scum as "bigots"
I wasn't talking about Catholics Mike,

I was talking about Muslims.....
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You keep misunderstanding, you really are quite a bit thick aren't you? Really dumb....Never even got back to the post on this thread where I discussed this with you.
The Catholic/traditionally nationalist community will soon be the majority, there will be huge changes in NI and its symbolism, and it will all be done democratically, just as lowering this flag has happened, several other changes will happen democratically that the Unionist nutters won't be able to do anything about. These changes will bring more equality in NI.
Bit by bit the orange state is being chipped away at, bit by bit the ''Britishness'' of NI is dying off, and its all happening democratically. So there is nothing they can do about it except embarass themselves in front of the world.
Facts are NI days as an orange, British-only state are finished. Whether it remains in the UK or not.....
And they (unionists) can't do nothing about it. Their hands are tied by the Good Friday Agreement....I hope they enjoy their future, I'm sure going to enjoy watching theirs :)
i have and il tell you again the catholics if they get the majority will not all vote the way you think they will they will.. lots of them dont want the euro. more troubles. debt that the south will carry for eternity when greece crash mayb spain prob portugal and prob ireland too..sober up what have you got we want really

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Dec 7, 2012
 
I'd be embarrassed at rioting if Hilary Clinton were over to visit. At least she got a nice warm welcome in the ROI, great for tourism and investment.

Those Americans thinking of a trip to NI or investing in it will be turned off by the welcome the Secretary of State received, all that rioting. Congrats.....

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dubbadub wrote:
im a sad republican who hates protestants and anything british i have denied supporting or being a member of the ira on here but im only following in the footsteps of my hero gerry adams and as he says we havnt gone away ya know. lol
Untrue.

I have a very good friend who is a Protestant from NI, and his family are Unionists/Loyalists. Salt of the earth people all the same. See unlike you I can see past politics and see people as people, regardless of where their allegiances lie.

You continually slag off your historic neighbours and display your hatred for them. Well you would better get used to them, because very soon they will be the majority in those 6 counties. Is there some kind of anti-bigot workshop set up? I suggest you pay it a visit.

All I want is equality regarding symbolism in NI. Thats what the people up there want, and democratically they are getting there.

You hate Catholics and anything Irish. You even hate your neighbours in NI merely because of their religion and because they have different political views. Nasty piece of work.

I actually like Britain and travel there quite often. Have quite a few family members over there so plenty of British cousins etc, and friends over there too. The people of the ROI and people of Britain get on well, thats why most British tourists come to the ROI and not NI. Funny that isn't it? Your so called British buddies would rather visit a foreign country the ROI, than NI which is part of the UK.

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