Jailed Canadian a 'significant irrita...

Jailed Canadian a 'significant irritant' in Ethiopia relations: Baird

There are 19 comments on the The London Free Press story from Jun 12, 2012, titled Jailed Canadian a 'significant irritant' in Ethiopia relations: Baird. In it, The London Free Press reports that:

Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird has been the most high-profile champion for the release of Bashir Makhtar, an Ethiopia-born ethnic Somali who became a Canadian citizen in 1994.

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Lisa

Woerden, Netherlands

#1 Jun 13, 2012
If he don't want to be in jail then he shouldn't be a terrorist. Canadian passport is not going to save him. He is a Somali from Ogaden and was caught by the Kenyans trying to escape the fight or the Jihad. ONLF is a terrorist outfit period. If Canada is a friend of Ethiopia they should arrest those ONLF members in their countries and hand them to the Ethiopian authorities. These people have killed many inocent Ethiopians and Chinese workers in the Ogaden.
FASIL

Peseux, Switzerland

#2 Jun 13, 2012
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Next,it will be shikeh Al-zaqaui(Alex),i advise you....you should be surrender voluntarily to the canada authorities and hand yourself to the ethiopian authorities.!! 10q.
Zewdu

Ethiopia

#3 Jun 13, 2012
Why don't western authorities act differently when thier terrorist citizens are caught in a terrorist activity in Africa? Would they support them had they been caught in Afghanistan?Take the case of the Swedish journalists?At least they were not supposed to cross national borders illegally.Double standard? Supporting Terrorism?
Alex

Etobicoke, Canada

#4 Jun 13, 2012
Lisa wrote:
If he don't want to be in jail then he shouldn't be a terrorist. Canadian passport is not going to save him. He is a Somali from Ogaden and was caught by the Kenyans trying to escape the fight or the Jihad. ONLF is a terrorist outfit period. If Canada is a friend of Ethiopia they should arrest those ONLF members in their countries and hand them to the Ethiopian authorities. These people have killed many inocent Ethiopians and Chinese workers in the Ogaden.
Just because I reported news and pictures of burned mosques in Addis and Gurage on this forum, I was labelled jihadist, terrorist, islamist and taliban by hateful and extremist Ethio christians including you , all of which care a life term in jail with hard labor, don't expect i would argue aginst your hateful comments against Makhatr, who happens to be perfectly innocent. How is crossing a border, with visa or without visa, make one a terrorist? I know you will say he was dispersing money to al-shabab but the law od justice requires to prove that beyond reasonable doubt in order to the liberty of an individual. I am sure you're a hateful christian molesting pervert Abughraib b$tch and don't vote for rigorous process of testing evidence when the accused is a Muslim.
Lisa

Amsterdam, Netherlands

#5 Jun 13, 2012
Alex wrote:
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Just because I reported news and pictures of burned mosques in Addis and Gurage on this forum, I was labelled jihadist, terrorist, islamist and taliban by hateful and extremist Ethio christians including you , all of which care a life term in jail with hard labor, don't expect i would argue aginst your hateful comments against Makhatr, who happens to be perfectly innocent. How is crossing a border, with visa or without visa, make one a terrorist? I know you will say he was dispersing money to al-shabab but the law od justice requires to prove that beyond reasonable doubt in order to the liberty of an individual. I am sure you're a hateful christian molesting pervert Abughraib b$tch and don't vote for rigorous process of testing evidence when the accused is a Muslim.
Why do you relate everything to you? This has nothing to do with you. The father of this terrorist was one of the founders of this terrorists gangs and he was caught crossing the boarder, after they lost armed conflict, by the Kenyans. Ethiopians and Kenyans are not blood thirsty people who would arrest some one wth out a cause. If they want to arrest anyone there are millions in the Ogaden to arrest from. He was taken to court and was found guilty. I know for you all muslim terrorists are innocents if found guilty by non muslims. I am not a hateful Christian "b$tch" as you called me but a rational person who stands up for her right against irrational people like you. You must be shy of logic otherwise you wouldn't have said what you said. For any burnt mosque I can show you over fifty burnt Chuches if you were a man who posses LOGIC. Nonetheless, the guy was not caught for arson but of terrorism. And if you want to side him then it is clear where you loyality lies.
Alex

Etobicoke, Canada

#6 Jun 13, 2012
Lisa wrote:
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Why do you relate everything to you? This has nothing to do with you. The father of this terrorist was one of the founders of this terrorists gangs and he was caught crossing the boarder, after they lost armed conflict, by the Kenyans. Ethiopians and Kenyans are not blood thirsty people who would arrest some one wth out a cause. If they want to arrest anyone there are millions in the Ogaden to arrest from. He was taken to court and was found guilty. I know for you all muslim terrorists are innocents if found guilty by non muslims. I am not a hateful Christian "b$tch" as you called me but a rational person who stands up for her right against irrational people like you. You must be shy of logic otherwise you wouldn't have said what you said. For any burnt mosque I can show you over fifty burnt Chuches if you were a man who posses LOGIC. Nonetheless, the guy was not caught for arson but of terrorism. And if you want to side him then it is clear where you loyality lies.
Where is your proof that you heard or read about his guilt as a terrorist. or not his guilt, not his admission of guilt for terrorism but the judicial reports you read about his conviction by Ethiopian courts. If this is all that you know about his terrorist criminality is criminaling someone by association beccause his father was one and Kenyan vendetta unleashed on an innocent man immediately after the Kenyans battled al-shabab. Ridiculous. As you have never waivered from a hardline orthodox extremist bordering on terrorist inclinations, your ill-will against this innocent Canadian is not based on logic. Ethiopia has no criminalizing footprints against this man.

According to your logic, Ethiopians should hang the sons and daughters of Ethiopian leaders who ordered the killing, maiming and jailing of thousands of Ethiopians. Sons and daughters of haile Sellasie, sons and daughter of Mengistu hailemariam and sons and daughters of meles Zeradwa must accused as butchers of Ethiopia for their parents role and get sentenced to life or capital punishment.
Cana

Canada

#7 Jun 13, 2012
Lisa wrote:
If he don't want to be in jail then he shouldn't be a terrorist. Canadian passport is not going to save him. He is a Somali from Ogaden and was caught by the Kenyans trying to escape the fight or the Jihad. ONLF is a terrorist outfit period. If Canada is a friend of Ethiopia they should arrest those ONLF members in their countries and hand them to the Ethiopian authorities. These people have killed many inocent Ethiopians and Chinese workers in the Ogaden.
Somali have been coming to Canada as refugees for the past fifty years, and despite Canadian social get ahead programs; Somali have wallowed in crime.
Lisa

Amsterdam, Netherlands

#8 Jun 14, 2012
Alex wrote:
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Where is your proof that you heard or read about his guilt as a terrorist. or not his guilt, not his admission of guilt for terrorism but the judicial reports you read about his conviction by Ethiopian courts. If this is all that you know about his terrorist criminality is criminaling someone by association beccause his father was one and Kenyan vendetta unleashed on an innocent man immediately after the Kenyans battled al-shabab. Ridiculous. As you have never waivered from a hardline orthodox extremist bordering on terrorist inclinations, your ill-will against this innocent Canadian is not based on logic. Ethiopia has no criminalizing footprints against this man.
According to your logic, Ethiopians should hang the sons and daughters of Ethiopian leaders who ordered the killing, maiming and jailing of thousands of Ethiopians. Sons and daughters of haile Sellasie, sons and daughter of Mengistu hailemariam and sons and daughters of meles Zeradwa must accused as butchers of Ethiopia for their parents role and get sentenced to life or capital punishment.
Don't try to twist what I said. He is the son of... but the court found him to be the leader of the ONLF terrorist gang too. It was in many news papers few years back. Why are you cros whenever any Habesha says he is a Christian you jump up to coclussions of Christian extreamism and Christian terrorism. There is no Christian extreamism nor terrorism. Don't qoute for me Mcveigh or the Norwegian terrorist, they are the exceptions. There are no beheadings and stonings in Christianity sanctioned by the "Holly Book". And if some one point those facts it doesn't make him or her extreamist.
Naturally Wired

Jonquière, Canada

#9 Jun 14, 2012
He's a "Canadian" eh?

Just another hyphenated citizen who went back to his real home and got into trouble.
Naturally Wired

Jonquière, Canada

#10 Jun 14, 2012
Alex wrote:
<quoted text>
Where is your proof that you heard or read about his guilt as a terrorist. or not his guilt, not his admission of guilt for terrorism but the judicial reports you read about his conviction by Ethiopian courts. If this is all that you know about his terrorist criminality is criminaling someone by association beccause his father was one and Kenyan vendetta unleashed on an innocent man immediately after the Kenyans battled al-shabab. Ridiculous. As you have never waivered from a hardline orthodox extremist bordering on terrorist inclinations, your ill-will against this innocent Canadian is not based on logic. Ethiopia has no criminalizing footprints against this man.
According to your logic, Ethiopians should hang the sons and daughters of Ethiopian leaders who ordered the killing, maiming and jailing of thousands of Ethiopians. Sons and daughters of haile Sellasie, sons and daughter of Mengistu hailemariam and sons and daughters of meles Zeradwa must accused as butchers of Ethiopia for their parents role and get sentenced to life or capital punishment.
When my ancestors came here 300 yrs ago, they didn't bring their political issues and ethnic problems into their new land like some of you do today.

My family and relatives also only wave the Canadian flag.

Not so much anymore with the hyphenated citizens of today. They also cry they are "Canadian" when they return home and get into trouble.

Some people need to go home.
Soomaal

Finland

#11 Jun 14, 2012
Naturally Wired wrote:
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When my ancestors came here 300 yrs ago, they didn't bring their political issues and ethnic problems into their new land like some of you do today.
My family and relatives also only wave the Canadian flag.
Not so much anymore with the hyphenated citizens of today. They also cry they are "Canadian" when they return home and get into trouble.
Some people need to go home.
Many people need to go home! 300 years and political issues!
Don't be fool the world was not connect as it is today, therefore your ancestors didn't have the alternatives. Now we are in the era of technology you can chat, see and lecture as many people as you can from all over the world.
Soomaal

Finland

#12 Jun 14, 2012
Lisa wrote:
If he don't want to be in jail then he shouldn't be a terrorist. Canadian passport is not going to save him. He is a Somali from Ogaden and was caught by the Kenyans trying to escape the fight or the Jihad. ONLF is a terrorist outfit period. If Canada is a friend of Ethiopia they should arrest those ONLF members in their countries and hand them to the Ethiopian authorities. These people have killed many inocent Ethiopians and Chinese workers in the Ogaden.
The man is Somali-Ethiopian and Canadian passport is not changing his nationality. He is the son of the great man, the Hero MAKHTAl DAHIR who standed for the right of his people under the barbaric rule of Ahmara.

He will be free soon as an Ethiopian not Canandia. The justice system is not like it used to be under your kind rulers.
Soomaal

Finland

#13 Jun 14, 2012
Alex wrote:
<quoted text>
Where is your proof that you heard or read about his guilt as a terrorist. or not his guilt, not his admission of guilt for terrorism but the judicial reports you read about his conviction by Ethiopian courts. If this is all that you know about his terrorist criminality is criminaling someone by association beccause his father was one and Kenyan vendetta unleashed on an innocent man immediately after the Kenyans battled al-shabab. Ridiculous. As you have never waivered from a hardline orthodox extremist bordering on terrorist inclinations, your ill-will against this innocent Canadian is not based on logic. Ethiopia has no criminalizing footprints against this man.
According to your logic, Ethiopians should hang the sons and daughters of Ethiopian leaders who ordered the killing, maiming and jailing of thousands of Ethiopians. Sons and daughters of haile Sellasie, sons and daughter of Mengistu hailemariam and sons and daughters of meles Zeradwa must accused as butchers of Ethiopia for their parents role and get sentenced to life or capital punishment.
This woman is the most evil human being. She has no the smallest ethic when it comes the right of Ethiopian. She wishes to see all the people of Ethiopia be slaves to her preferable ethnic group who she considers ETHIOPIAN ( Ahmara) She is like a lizard that changes its skin colour to fit its surrounding And that is why she is extremely angry with Meles hither and thither. Does she know anything about showing clear thought or reason. She accusess others as terrorist and un-ratinal while she is so narraw-minded and has no sense of rationality.
Alex

Etobicoke, Canada

#14 Jun 14, 2012
Soomaal wrote:
<quoted text>
This woman is the most evil human being. She has no the smallest ethic when it comes the right of Ethiopian. She wishes to see all the people of Ethiopia be slaves to her preferable ethnic group who she considers ETHIOPIAN ( Ahmara) She is like a lizard that changes its skin colour to fit its surrounding And that is why she is extremely angry with Meles hither and thither. Does she know anything about showing clear thought or reason. She accusess others as terrorist and un-ratinal while she is so narraw-minded and has no sense of rationality.
FYI, Lisa is Tigray, not Amhra. She is a perfect example of a ridiculous, digusting and immoral extreme islamophobe
Lisa

Amsterdam, Netherlands

#15 Jun 14, 2012
Soomaal wrote:
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The man is Somali-Ethiopian and Canadian passport is not changing his nationality. He is the son of the great man, the Hero MAKHTAl DAHIR who standed for the right of his people under the barbaric rule of Ahmara.
He will be free soon as an Ethiopian not Canandia. The justice system is not like it used to be under your kind rulers.
A great man for you but for us he is like Benladin to the Americans is.
Lisa

Amsterdam, Netherlands

#16 Jun 14, 2012
Soomaal wrote:
<quoted text>
This woman is the most evil human being. She has no the smallest ethic when it comes the right of Ethiopian. She wishes to see all the people of Ethiopia be slaves to her preferable ethnic group who she considers ETHIOPIAN ( Ahmara) She is like a lizard that changes its skin colour to fit its surrounding And that is why she is extremely angry with Meles hither and thither. Does she know anything about showing clear thought or reason. She accusess others as terrorist and un-ratinal while she is so narraw-minded and has no sense of rationality.
The evil ones are like you who destroy their own country and are aiming to destroy owers. Irrational qat addicted nomads with an evil religion is a dangerous coctail. It might creat self combustion.
Lisa

Amsterdam, Netherlands

#17 Jun 14, 2012
Alex wrote:
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FYI, Lisa is Tigray, not Amhra. She is a perfect example of a ridiculous, digusting and immoral extreme islamophobe
What is this? A Jihadists convention? I might be a Gurage muslima how do you know? Since you reside in Canada you might be a friend of the jailed terrorist. who knows!!! Apparently Canada has becomea a sit of mindless and hateful jihadists like you. The first symptom of a terrorist is he thinks everyone is islamophobe and extream Christian. You have displayed those symptoms quite often my jihadist friend.
Alex

Etobicoke, Canada

#18 Jun 14, 2012
Lisa wrote:
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What is this? A Jihadists convention? I might be a Gurage muslima how do you know? Since you reside in Canada you might be a friend of the jailed terrorist. who knows!!! Apparently Canada has becomea a sit of mindless and hateful jihadists like you. The first symptom of a terrorist is he thinks everyone is islamophobe and extream Christian. You have displayed those symptoms quite often my jihadist friend.
I did not you're ridiculous character for no reason. It's a conclusion i reache after observing you how judge people. Just because you an dsamaal exchnaged one post each, you condemned as jihadists conspiring the islamaphobe you. You see how trigger-happy, rude, hateful you're.
What should anyone be charged with the crime of terror just beccause his dad is a founder of some somali nationalsit party neither Ethiopia or kenya approve of? Even if he was the son of the founder of ONLF, what's his crime other than DNA? Crime by association exists in arbitrary and authoritarian states but this man was not seen with his father.
He should be free. There is no a grian of evidence to convic him as a criminal. You have not provided and defended your sweaty wet mouth nor could you support your government of terror against Ethio Muslims with evidence against this innocent man wasting in jail.
FASIL

Colombier, Switzerland

#19 Jun 15, 2012
Alex wrote:
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I did not you're ridiculous character for no reason. It's a conclusion i reache after observing you how judge people. Just because you an dsamaal exchnaged one post each, you condemned as jihadists conspiring the islamaphobe you. You see how trigger-happy, rude, hateful you're.
What should anyone be charged with the crime of terror just beccause his dad is a founder of some somali nationalsit party neither Ethiopia or kenya approve of? Even if he was the son of the founder of ONLF, what's his crime other than DNA? Crime by association exists in arbitrary and authoritarian states but this man was not seen with his father.
He should be free. There is no a grian of evidence to convic him as a criminal. You have not provided and defended your sweaty wet mouth nor could you support your government of terror against Ethio Muslims with evidence against this innocent man wasting in jail.
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Sheikeh,..Can you ever separate the image of an AK47 and islam.?

Ethiopia sent strong message to terroris like this guy.If you break the law you will be presecuted and go to jail and serve time,even canadan government should non interven of behalf of such an fxck terroris.he got what he deserved, bravo ethiopia for sending such strong message to people like you and this guy.!!

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