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Getenete18

United States

#1 Aug 14, 2009
we should ban Amharic language from Tigray region and let other regions do the same soon and adapt English language as Federal communication means. The reason is if there is no Amharic language in every regions, the Amhara dominance will diminishe they want have any effective control of other ethnic people. If we transfer the power the way it is now, we will go back to the old way and will be even harsher because a lot of Amhara intellectuals say that if the Haile Selassie regime was strong enough to impose Amharic language and culture by denying their own language to speak, Ethiopia could have been just one Amharic speaking country and we would not have all the wars and destructions and Eritrea independent nation and Woyane in power destroying all the 100 years work Amharanization.


I strongly suggest that if we want to weaken Amhara dominance in the future, we should organize ALL AGEW PEOPLE AND CREATE THEIR OWN ETHNIC REGION IN AMHARA LAND AND HAVE THEM DEVELOP THEIR OWN LANGUAGE INSTEAD OF AMHARIC IN THE PRESENT AMHARA REGION AT ANY COST. If we do the above suggestion Amhara will be the smallest minority ethnic group and the Amharic language argument will dissipate and other regions will not honor the smallest minority group language and will adapt English as a common language. Otherwise, we will end up all Amharanazed people in the future.
Getenete18

United States

#2 Aug 14, 2009
The above comment was posted by name called HALAFI MENGEDI.
http://www.tigraionline.com/tolforum/viewtopi...
Motuma Geletta

Palo Alto, CA

#3 Aug 14, 2009
Getnete18 I agree in many things but not on this one. I commented on halafi mengedi comment. It's not healthy. This kind of mentality is a disease. There was and is only one Ethiopia and many tribes and nationalities which are the beauty of ETHIOPIA. Don't repeat what tirikims and Gimm Butts doing. love you.

“Lets Talk!”

Since: Aug 09

world

#4 Aug 14, 2009
G-18
Your title for this post is biased, you are sawing seeds for disaster.......... The post you borrowed from TOL, is no different than any other eastafrican website who express their opinion. These individuals because of some catastrophic experienced in their past or associations tend to engage in the act of protectionism.

FYI, not defending HalafiMengedi!

But the question should be what motivates people to think like that and how to heal each other.

Since: Jun 09

Location hidden

#5 Aug 15, 2009
Getenete18 wrote:
we should ban Amharic language from Tigray region and let other regions do the same soon and adapt English language as Federal communication means. The reason is if there is no Amharic language in every regions, the Amhara dominance will diminishe they want have any effective control of other ethnic people. If we transfer the power the way it is now, we will go back to the old way and will be even harsher because a lot of Amhara intellectuals say that if the Haile Selassie regime was strong enough to impose Amharic language and culture by denying their own language to speak, Ethiopia could have been just one Amharic speaking country and we would not have all the wars and destructions and Eritrea independent nation and Woyane in power destroying all the 100 years work Amharanization.
I strongly suggest that if we want to weaken Amhara dominance in the future, we should organize ALL AGEW PEOPLE AND CREATE THEIR OWN ETHNIC REGION IN AMHARA LAND AND HAVE THEM DEVELOP THEIR OWN LANGUAGE INSTEAD OF AMHARIC IN THE PRESENT AMHARA REGION AT ANY COST. If we do the above suggestion Amhara will be the smallest minority ethnic group and the Amharic language argument will dissipate and other regions will not honor the smallest minority group language and will adapt English as a common language. Otherwise, we will end up all Amharanazed people in the future.
Your common sense is way off.

So trade in a Amharic for English so then we can all be Europeanized like the rest of the world??

It is clear your post is out of hate for your amhara brothers and sisters!

Sometimes I wonder what my people are doing in their times on earth?

Do understand how cultures and languages come about?

the goals should be to mix all the languages of the Ethiopia into one so in the future it will be so mixed that one cannot call it Oromo, Amhara, Tigre, Somali but just Ethiopian

Why continue to ban others and hate against your brother.

Each region should learn the language of their region and the national language(whatever it may be or become)or a language of another region.

So over time due to evolution and exposure to different languages a new language will develop

So not one can claim amharaziation or tigrazation or oromoization!
andebet

Ethiopia

#6 Aug 15, 2009
Getenete18 wrote:
The above comment was posted by name called HALAFI MENGEDI.
http://www.tigraionline.com/tolforum/viewtopi...
i hate people who want to sell their freedom to others. you are one and leader of them.
i think you like to be unified one ethiopia. but it is better have one language and let the others remove rather than remove one language amharic.
if you are thinking that speaking english language will lead us to modernization please see some african cuontries which speak english but not better than us.
please brother release such minor assumptions and unit togetger and rather fight egypt.
LONG LIVE ETHIOPIA.
HAFTOM

Ethiopia

#7 Aug 15, 2009
If you assume like that others also need to ban either tigrigna or oromic . then after we will not have our native language. do you like that?
BOOL!
Ethio

Addis Ababa, Ethiopia

#8 Aug 15, 2009
Getenete18 wrote:
we should ban Amharic language from Tigray region and let other regions do the same soon and adapt English language as Federal communication means. The reason is if there is no Amharic language in every regions, the Amhara dominance will diminishe they want have any effective control of other ethnic people. If we transfer the power the way it is now, we will go back to the old way and will be even harsher because a lot of Amhara intellectuals say that if the Haile Selassie regime was strong enough to impose Amharic language and culture by denying their own language to speak, Ethiopia could have been just one Amharic speaking country and we would not have all the wars and destructions and Eritrea independent nation and Woyane in power destroying all the 100 years work Amharanization.
I strongly suggest that if we want to weaken Amhara dominance in the future, we should organize ALL AGEW PEOPLE AND CREATE THEIR OWN ETHNIC REGION IN AMHARA LAND AND HAVE THEM DEVELOP THEIR OWN LANGUAGE INSTEAD OF AMHARIC IN THE PRESENT AMHARA REGION AT ANY COST. If we do the above suggestion Amhara will be the smallest minority ethnic group and the Amharic language argument will dissipate and other regions will not honor the smallest minority group language and will adapt English as a common language. Otherwise, we will end up all Amharanazed people in the future.
you stupid idiot first u should get ur colonized mental to the garage before being Ethiopian or suck ur white lord .... WE don't want any foreign language u bullshit banda.
getu

Minneapolis, MN

#9 Aug 15, 2009
Getenete18 wrote:
we should ban Amharic language from Tigray region and let other regions do the same soon and adapt English language as Federal communication means. The reason is if there is no Amharic language in every regions, the Amhara dominance will diminishe they want have any effective control of other ethnic people. If we transfer the power the way it is now, we will go back to the old way and will be even harsher because a lot of Amhara intellectuals say that if the Haile Selassie regime was strong enough to impose Amharic language and culture by denying their own language to speak, Ethiopia could have been just one Amharic speaking country and we would not have all the wars and destructions and Eritrea independent nation and Woyane in power destroying all the 100 years work Amharanization.
I strongly suggest that if we want to weaken Amhara dominance in the future, we should organize ALL AGEW PEOPLE AND CREATE THEIR OWN ETHNIC REGION IN AMHARA LAND AND HAVE THEM DEVELOP THEIR OWN LANGUAGE INSTEAD OF AMHARIC IN THE PRESENT AMHARA REGION AT ANY COST. If we do the above suggestion Amhara will be the smallest minority ethnic group and the Amharic language argument will dissipate and other regions will not honor the smallest minority group language and will adapt English as a common language. Otherwise, we will end up all Amharanazed people in the future.
I agree with you. however, I don't think any European language should replace Amharic, since the historical contention of their past as far as Africa goes. However, we should replace it either with Japanese, Chines, Vietnamese or any language from Asia. In this way, no one ethnic group will the same footing when we start.

The first thing what the government shout do is illegalize Amharic by decree and make it punishable by firing squad on the spot, if and when anyone caught speaking or having an Amharic name.

In this way, we all will be able to weaken the Amhara and Amharic. If anyone have anything to add to this great idea of mine, I suggest to contribute. Who know, just maybe it will a best seller
Getenete18

Severn, MD

#10 Aug 15, 2009
Ethio wrote:
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you stupid idiot first u should get ur colonized mental to the garage before being Ethiopian or suck ur white lord .... WE don't want any foreign language u bullshit banda.
I didn't write the comment. I was also surprised by their blind hateful attitude toward Amara that is why I want people to see how sick they are.

Since: Jun 09

Location hidden

#11 Aug 15, 2009
getu wrote:
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I agree with you. however, I don't think any European language should replace Amharic, since the historical contention of their past as far as Africa goes. However, we should replace it either with Japanese, Chines, Vietnamese or any language from Asia. In this way, no one ethnic group will the same footing when we start.
The first thing what the government shout do is illegalize Amharic by decree and make it punishable by firing squad on the spot, if and when anyone caught speaking or having an Amharic name.
In this way, we all will be able to weaken the Amhara and Amharic. If anyone have anything to add to this great idea of mine, I suggest to contribute. Who know, just maybe it will a best seller
I know you were not serious?You want to trade in your black afrakan god given langague that branched off and created all other langagues in the world for european and asian

I know you are joking!
abr

Ethiopia

#12 Aug 15, 2009
Getenete18 wrote:
we should ban Amharic language from Tigray region and let other regions do the same soon and adapt English language as Federal communication means. The reason is if there is no Amharic language in every regions, the Amhara dominance will diminishe they want have any effective control of other ethnic people. If we transfer the power the way it is now, we will go back to the old way and will be even harsher because a lot of Amhara intellectuals say that if the Haile Selassie regime was strong enough to impose Amharic language and culture by denying their own language to speak, Ethiopia could have been just one Amharic speaking country and we would not have all the wars and destructions and Eritrea independent nation and Woyane in power destroying all the 100 years work Amharanization.
I strongly suggest that if we want to weaken Amhara dominance in the future, we should organize ALL AGEW PEOPLE AND CREATE THEIR OWN ETHNIC REGION IN AMHARA LAND AND HAVE THEM DEVELOP THEIR OWN LANGUAGE INSTEAD OF AMHARIC IN THE PRESENT AMHARA REGION AT ANY COST. If we do the above suggestion Amhara will be the smallest minority ethnic group and the Amharic language argument will dissipate and other regions will not honor the smallest minority group language and will adapt English as a common language. Otherwise, we will end up all Amharanazed people in the future.
you donkeys are worthless creature only know how to shout, in the first thing we don't speak amharic. we use that lang to insult you sometimes and to push you.what is your power to ban us , we have alrready rejected and make others to reject it.
worthless ppl.
Ethio

Addis Ababa, Ethiopia

#13 Aug 15, 2009
abr wrote:
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you donkeys are worthless creature only know how to shout, in the first thing we don't speak amharic. we use that lang to insult you sometimes and to push you.what is your power to ban us , we have alrready rejected and make others to reject it.
worthless ppl.
You didn't understand what he said. do you want any foreign lang.abr?
Ethio

Addis Ababa, Ethiopia

#14 Aug 15, 2009
Getenete18 wrote:
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I didn't write the comment. I was also surprised by their blind hateful attitude toward Amara that is why I want people to see how sick they are.
sorry!!
Yonas

Pune, India

#15 Aug 15, 2009
The question Is, IS adopting majority language as a national language is a means of oppression?

Is the question of uniformity in language, the question of oppression or the question of nationalism?

Is the concept of ‘ amharization’ is the oldest technique of dominating minorities as propagated by anti- nationalists .. or it is an old method if preserving NATIONALISM ??

What is nationalism and the process of nation building?

The social, political and economic conditions of modernity demanded standardization, uniformity. transportation systems were improved, highway and railroad systems were built to bring remote and isolated regions into easy contact with markets and city centers national currencies were adopted, mail services started, buildings, streets and roads were given numbers, regional economies were transformed into interdependent parts of a larger, more efficient, single 'national' economic system.

This will force citizens of the nation to speak the same language. And basically through the education system and mass media. The ruling nationalist elites at the time launched a social engineering project to change the various populations of their countries into a unified community having the same historical symbols, deriving from the same ancestors, and, irrespective of social inequalities and class differences, pursuing the same 'national' interests.

And that is the sin of speaking Amharic.

This new distorted revolution spread in Eritrea too and certain ethnicities consider Tigrigna as means of tyranny or a Christian language or Habeshi language. What ever It is no one speaks in favor of uniformity in language to preserve a united developing nation.

Since: Aug 09

oromia

#16 Aug 15, 2009
getu wrote:
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The first thing what the government shout do is illegalize Amharic by decree and make it punishable by firing squad on the spot, if and when anyone caught speaking or having an Amharic name.
that sounds like going back to haile selassie's era. from what I understand they want to remove amharic from national language to state level langauge just like oromo,tigranya,afar,somali and others.
getu

Minneapolis, MN

#17 Aug 15, 2009
cala wrote:
<quoted text>
that sounds like going back to haile selassie's era. from what I understand they want to remove amharic from national language to state level langauge just like oromo,tigranya,afar,somali and others.
Okay no problem with that. What then will be the working language? Considering the contention by preferring over another will be difficult.........any suggestion
abr7

Ethiopia

#18 Aug 16, 2009
Ethio wrote:
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You didn't understand what he said. do you want any foreign lang.abr?
no i don't want really so far but some of them/amhara want to exploite that advantage over others and if that continues, yes every body is going to agree to have a common lang that doesn't favour any one.
that will offcourse forign lang.
Ethio

Addis Ababa, Ethiopia

#19 Aug 16, 2009
abr7 wrote:
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no i don't want really so far but some of them/amhara want to exploite that advantage over others and if that continues, yes every body is going to agree to have a common lang that doesn't favour any one.
that will offcourse forign lang.
abr are you arguing that amhara is exploiting the country by their lang? I f so tell me examples. I don't think so abr u should remove such narrow minded idea u gonna grasp this poor country in ur hand.I wanna to my country in better status rather than blind hateful for one group.

Since: Aug 09

oromia

#20 Aug 16, 2009
getu wrote:
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Okay no problem with that. What then will be the working language? Considering the contention by preferring over another will be difficult.........any suggestion
I dont think you can argue for amharic alone to be the working language anymore, mostly due to how amharic langauge became the national language plus amharic is not spoken by majority of the people. I believe most people will support oromo&amharic as working federal language and the rest stay as is.

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