ethiopia was colonized!

[EritreanTigrinya]

I have heard this slogan shouted many times by
uninformed and misguided ethiopians:
"ETHIOPIA WAS NEVER COLONIZED!"

Do you know what's wrong with this claim is that
it's contradictory to the historical facts!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_East_Afr...

Italian East Africa (Italian: Africa Orientale Italiana, AOI) was a short-lived (1936-1941) Italian colony in Africa consisting of Ethiopia (recently occupied after the Second Italo-Abyssinian War)

Here is a map of Italian East Africa of which Ethiopia was a territory of! At this point, Ethiopia was divided into Amhara, Harar, and Galla...as you can see Eritrea had more land back then!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Italian_Ea...

Location of Italian East Africa
Capital Addis Ababa
Political structure Colony
Viceroy¹
- 1936 Pietro Badoglio
- 1936-1937 Rodolfo Graziani
- 1937-1941 Prince Amedeo
- 1941 Pietro Gazzera
- 1941 (acting) Guglielmo Nasi
Historical era Interwar period
- Established 1936
- Disestablished 1941

In addition, there were many Ethiopians who joined the Italians in the colonising war. These Ethiopians were from Shewa, Gondar, Tigray, all these people who are the most VOCAL, who shout that "Ethiopia was never colonised" I am CERTAIN they are Descendants of the Banda (Askari) soldiers of Mussolini's Italy!...

In Conclusion, Ethiopia was colonised, Ethiopians did fight as Banda (Askaris) for the Italians, Ethiopians were Colonised and they served as Slaves of the Italians!....

[For Real]

Eritrean Tigrinya!
You come up with this nonsense. Please get a pulse.

[For Real]

Trying to be slick Mr/Mrs Eritrean Tigrinya. We know who you are.
The EPRDF has assembled a team of people with a task to edit and change wikipedia entries regarding Ethiopia.
http://seminawork.blogspot.com/2008/02/wiki-a...

[EritreanTigrinya]

Here is encarta entry from msn.com , it's not like wikipedia

http://encarta.msn.com/sidebar_461501314/1939...

1939: Italian East Africa

Italian East Africa. Italy's foremost colony, and the foundation of her empire, consists of the Italian colonies of Eritrea and Italian Somaliland and the former and ancient empire of Abyssinia or Ethiopia, which Italy conquered in 1936. Italy annexed the country on May 9, 1936, and on the same day the King of Italy was proclaimed Emperor of Ethiopia. By a decree of June 1, 1936, all these lands were united under one common Viceroy. The country consists, in addition to the capital Addis Ababa, of six provinces, Eritrea, Amhara, Harar, Galla, Shoa, and Somaliland. The whole area is estimated at 1,708,000 square kilometers and the number of inhabitants at about 8,000,000, but no exact census has ever been taken.

here is also a book called Haile Selassie's War!

http://books.google.com/books...

So Basically, For Real..your not keeping it Real...Ethiopia was COLONIZED and there is more info to back up this BLATANT TRUTH!

Again, you like the rest of your people have nothing to back up your claim of "ethiopia has never been colonized"

[Samson]

Wedi-Banda

My claim is that non of my grand parents were ever enslaved or colonized by anyone, they never had to report to anyone, even during the 5years the Italians stayed it was a war zone and hell for them and they could barely control anything out of few cities and finally left out of frustration.

You on the other hand you have 60+years of master-slave relation you should be proud of and we don't want to take that away from you.

Enjoy

[Mittu Kekebena]

To the well resourced but blinded by hatred man who claimed that Ethiopia was colonized by the Italians, first of all you are obviously blind and deaf by the hatred and anger bottled up in you heart and brain. Therefore, you neither see or understand what you are pretending to read or hear. Wake up leave Ethiopia alone. Help your own history and your own people. GET RID OF THE ANGER AND THE HATRED that is infiltrating in your very own body and soul. We Ethiopians do not have any problems with anyone including the Italians! We are a peace loving nation and people. We have our own historians to write about us! Thank you. You may now start writing about Wede macaroni and pasta..........ie after you have cleansed your body and soul..........

[i change]

italians were in ethiopia for few years but they did not do slavery.we had slaver thread with arabs.

The picture is still not clear to me

[EritreanTigrinya]

Samson wrote:

Wedi-Banda
My claim is that non of my grand parents were ever enslaved or colonized by anyone, they never had to report to anyone, even during the 5years the Italians stayed it was a war zone and hell for them and they could barely control anything out of few cities and finally left out of frustration.
You on the other hand you have 60+years of master-slave relation you should be proud of and we don't want to take that away from you.
Enjoy

Typical response from an Amhara Neftinya elitist-wannabe...Italians didn't have to enslave you, the Feudal kingdoms already enslaved you...I know for a fact, Majority of you Ehtiopians in Diaspora are descended from the Peasantry so you technically don't own any land in Gondar, Gojjam, Shewa, after Mengistu some of you fled when Mengie killed your Masters (Abeshas like yourselves)...so Italians didn't have to enslave, slaves! Get real Samson, if anything, your grandfather was the Banda and mine was Fighting against the Italians in Eritrea!...what do you know about Eritrea! obviously nothing, go read a book you illiterate son of a sheep, increase your vocab!

[EritreanTigrinya]

Mittu Kekebena wrote:

To the well resourced but blinded by hatred man who claimed that Ethiopia was colonized by the Italians, first of all you are obviously blind and deaf by the hatred and anger bottled up in you heart and brain. Therefore, you neither see or understand what you are pretending to read or hear. Wake up leave Ethiopia alone. Help your own history and your own people. GET RID OF THE ANGER AND THE HATRED that is infiltrating in your very own body and soul. We Ethiopians do not have any problems with anyone including the Italians! We are a peace loving nation and people. We have our own historians to write about us! Thank you. You may now start writing about Wede macaroni and pasta..........ie after you have cleansed your body and soul..........

Mittu, you say I'm well resourced but Blinded by Hate

You also insult me and call me "Wede macaroni and pasta"...

Then you continue to make a statement like this

We Ethiopians do not have any problems with anyone including the Italians!
But you don't mention whether Ethiopians have problems with Eritreans!
I guess it must take mustard gas and occupying Finfinee(addisababa) for 5 years before you Ethiopians don't have a problem with Eritreans!
Ask yourself, is that the route you want your country to go! perpetual war with Eritrea, because trust me it won't stop, it won't just end with a defeat or a victory here and there, it will continue on longer and the hate will get greater with each generation! Its easy for Diasporans to talk alot of trash from the comforts of their home and make WILD EXAGGERATIONS and CLAIMS and INSULT my FAMILY MEMBERS as IF THEY KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT THEM!...I mean what would you do if someone INSULTED your Family? Nothing? Something! but I digress

the Point is the Claim "Ethiopia was NEVER COLONISED" is FALSE and this HISTORICAL FACT PROVES it!

I say to Ethiopians, Start MAKING LOGICAL STATEMENTS instead of THESE OUTLANDISH CLAIMS! GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE TALKING WITH ERITREANS..BECAUSE WE DON"T FUK AROUND LIKE YOU DO! WE DON"T HAVE THE PRIVILEDGE OF BEING A SERVANT OF WESTERN NATIONS! THAT IN OF ITSELF MAKES ME LOSE ANY RESPECT FOR ETHIOPIA OR THOSE WHO DEFEND THIS FALSE IDEA ABOUT ETHIOPIA!!!

AT BEST, ETHIOPIA IS AN AGENT OF WESTERN NATIONS!!! NOTHING MORE THAN THAT..

ETHIOPIA = BANDA NATION-STATE, ETHIOPIANS ARE BANDA AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL! YOUR WHOLE SYSTEM IS BASED ON A FALSE GOVT. THAT DOES THE BIDDINGS OF EUROPEAN GOVT. SO WHO IS THE SLAVE HERE? WHO IS THE ASKARI/BANDA? OBVIOUSLY, YOU THE ETHIOPIANS!!!!

[EritreanTigrinya]

i change wrote:

italians were in ethiopia for few years but they did not do slavery.we had slaver thread with arabs.
The picture is still not clear to me

http://www.macalester.edu/courses/GEOG61/kshi...

the picture of the history of Ethiopia will not be clear if Ethiopians confuse patriotism with false history!

[For Real]

You wouldn't quit. Would you Eritrean Tigrinya?
I just don't believe that you guys go this low.
I am just wondering as to why such people spend their time to write nonsense.
But on the other hand you guys are sitting on the ticking time bomb.

[Samson]

I love it when Ethiopians are called Ascari's by Eritreans......Amazing. You are right, while you the patriot was fighting Italians for 60+ years, we were jelous, so begged the Italians to come and invade us and we were happy to be colonized by Italy for 5 years and were soo disappointed when they left.

I hope you feel better now.

[EritreanTigrinya]

Samson wrote:

I love it when Ethiopians are called Ascari's by Eritreans......Amazing. You are right, while you the patriot was fighting Italians for 60+ years, we were jelous, so begged the Italians to come and invade us and we were happy to be colonized by Italy for 5 years and were soo disappointed when they left.
I hope you feel better now.

Well Samson You especially are numero uno Askari Banda...however your claim that Eritreans were PRO-ITALY...is also BULLSHT
http://books.google.com/books...
Sylvia Pankhurst, daughter of Richard Pankhurst, the White Guy who wrote Ethiopian history for the illiterate Ethiopian Monarchy, basically said
Abraha Deboch and Moges Asgedom, two Eritreans attempted to save Ethiopia by taking out Graziani, Viceroy of Addis Ababa (Butcher of Addis), they threw grenades at him!...now tell me, Ethiopians didn't have the courage to do this! So there proves that Samson your a lame excuse of man/human being/ your not even good enough to be African!
Eritreans SAVED Ethiopia from complete colonisation by Italy!....but the fact remains
Ethiopia was colonised and Eritreans like Abraha Deboch and Moges Asgedom RISKED their LIVES to SAVE you UNGRATEFUL, ARROGANT, IGNORANT, RACIST BACKWARD EuroAssKissing Phony Africans!...
You Ethiopians are ALL TALK and a NO SUBSTANCE!

[For Real]

Get real now, Eritrean Tigrinya!!!
"Abraha Deboch and Moges Asgedom, two Eritreans attempted to save Ethiopia by taking out Graziani," Blah Blah Blah.
For God sacks, why didn't these two fools you called them heroes saved Eritrea them.
Boloni!
You know what, Eritreans Tigrinya, the real smart Eritrean will be ashamed of you for your naivety.
I know a lot of Eritreans decent people. I do not think you represent those.

[mitomedhin]

Mr. Eriterean Tigrinha, I was 100% right when i told you that you need a bit cleansing before you begin to write the History of Ethiopia. Hatred and anger, does not take you anywhere but to the land of ignorance and ugly,unfounded, twisted and false conclusions. By the way, if you are sooooooo pissed off with Ethiopians why bother about them. My advise to you is please if you have the urge to write some history and make yourself famous, Do try writing your own history about your beloved country. But for you to love and appreciate your country you do not need to hate Ethiopia or Ethiopians.
Peace to you
Mittu

[EritreanTigrinya]

mitomedhin wrote:

Mr. Eriterean Tigrinha, I was 100% right when i told you that you need a bit cleansing before you begin to write the History of Ethiopia. Hatred and anger, does not take you anywhere but to the land of ignorance and ugly,unfounded, twisted and false conclusions. By the way, if you are sooooooo pissed off with Ethiopians why bother about them. My advise to you is please if you have the urge to write some history and make yourself famous, Do try writing your own history about your beloved country. But for you to love and appreciate your country you do not need to hate Ethiopia or Ethiopians.
Peace to you
Mittu

You don't know nor understand what you are saying, All you are doing is repeating what the propaganda of 1945 was told to you or your parents and it kept repeating til then, so I don't see a point in responding to any "OPINIONS" you make about "history", becase you, like the rest of Ethiopians are believers in Propaganda, Past and Present and into the future.

Ethiopians are good at one thing that is "not being logical in their thinking or actions"
Ethiopians act like they know something but usually they are speaking out of their scope!

[mitomedhin]

Mr Eriterean Tigrinha,

You need to think clearly and ask yourself if you are being "logical in your thinking". What are you intending to achieve from your exaggerated and completely twisted fabrication that Ethiopia was........ I even hate to write the word you used? ARE YOU BEING A LOGICAL THINKER? Where is YOUR LOGIC IN YOUR ACTIONS? writing some lies about Ethiopia and its people? If that is what you think what LOGIC means i am completely lost.

Good luck in your efforts to Change World History,in particular Ethiopian History.

[EritreanTigrinya]

mitomedhin wrote:

Mr Eriterean Tigrinha,
You need to think clearly and ask yourself if you are being "logical in your thinking". What are you intending to achieve from your exaggerated and completely twisted fabrication that Ethiopia was........ I even hate to write the word you used? ARE YOU BEING A LOGICAL THINKER? Where is YOUR LOGIC IN YOUR ACTIONS? writing some lies about Ethiopia and its people? If that is what you think what LOGIC means i am completely lost.
Good luck in your efforts to Change World History,in particular Ethiopian History.

There is no reason for me to change anything in the History. It is already written there for anyone to read, from many sources, from many historians. The fact remains, Ethiopia was under the domination of Italians from 1936-1941. Which is when HaileSelassie fled to England and stayed there while Italian fascists like Graziani were slaughtering people!, This is a fact which even Ethiopian historians and people remember! You were under the control of Fascist Italy. People like Abraha (Eritreans) did try to assassinate Graziani, not because they believed they were Ethiopians, but because Eritreans knew the BRUTALITY of Fascist Italy more so than Ethiopians at that time, and we had better knowledge on the inner workings of the Italians, most of the intelligence gatherers were Eritreans within the Italian armies, how else could the Italians fall with all their military might no way!...But instead of insulting and degrading Eritreans of the past and the present, why not acknowledge the fact that Eritreans helped Ethiopia escape from total colonisation the kind that Eritreans suffered under! And I am tired of the lack of compassion on the part of Ethiopians when they refer to Eritreans as "banda" as "askari" as if Ethiopians themselves were not "bandas" or "askaris". The total ignorance on the part of Ethiopians when they assume "Eritreans speak Italian and eat pasta", I wonder as any of these arm-chair propaganda mizers have been to Eritrea within the past 30 years, do you think Eritreans were claiming Italy or fighting to be under Italy! Isn't it quite obvious by the mere fact in the existence of the State of Eritrea that Italian has no use in the public sector, the main WORKING languages are TIGRINYA and ARABIC, and for international its English. Do Ethiopians know that Eritreans who speak Italian live in Italy and are for the most part over the age of 50! Italian is hardly spoken in Eritrea today, that can't be said for the Francophone African nations, Senegal, they speak French, Cameroon samething, Kenya they speak English! Eritrea its Tigrinya and Arabic. So I know what I am talking about, I doubt most of those Ethiopians who shout all these baseless and ignorant claims and statements have a clue that they are saying nonsense and logically-deficient claims!

[Rekik]

EritreanTigrinya wrote:

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There is no reason for me to change anything in the History. It is already written there for anyone to read, from many sources, from many historians. The fact remains, Ethiopia was under the domination of Italians from 1936-1941. Which is when HaileSelassie fled to England and stayed there while Italian fascists like Graziani were slaughtering people!, This is a fact which even Ethiopian historians and people remember! You were under the control of Fascist Italy. People like Abraha (Eritreans) did try to assassinate Graziani, not because they believed they were Ethiopians, but because Eritreans knew the BRUTALITY of Fascist Italy more so than Ethiopians at that time, and we had better knowledge on the inner workings of the Italians, most of the intelligence gatherers were Eritreans within the Italian armies, how else could the Italians fall with all their military might no way!...But instead of insulting and degrading Eritreans of the past and the present, why not acknowledge the fact that Eritreans helped Ethiopia escape from total colonisation the kind that Eritreans suffered under! And I am tired of the lack of compassion on the part of Ethiopians when they refer to Eritreans as "banda" as "askari" as if Ethiopians themselves were not "bandas" or "askaris". The total ignorance on the part of Ethiopians when they assume "Eritreans speak Italian and eat pasta", I wonder as any of these arm-chair propaganda mizers have been to Eritrea within the past 30 years, do you think Eritreans were claiming Italy or fighting to be under Italy! Isn't it quite obvious by the mere fact in the existence of the State of Eritrea that Italian has no use in the public sector, the main WORKING languages are TIGRINYA and ARABIC, and for international its English. Do Ethiopians know that Eritreans who speak Italian live in Italy and are for the most part over the age of 50! Italian is hardly spoken in Eritrea today, that can't be said for the Francophone African nations, Senegal, they speak French, Cameroon samething, Kenya they speak English! Eritrea its Tigrinya and Arabic. So I know what I am talking about, I doubt most of those Ethiopians who shout all these baseless and ignorant claims and statements have a clue that they are saying nonsense and logically-deficient claims!

That does not count as colonization. Ethiopia was OCCUPIED for 5 years.
if you can't comprehend the difference between occupation and colonization..

[EritreanTigrinya]

Rekik wrote:

<quoted text>
That does not count as colonization. Ethiopia was OCCUPIED for 5 years.
if you can't comprehend the difference between occupation and colonization..

Word play at its worst, Occupation and Colonization ...hahaha are you serious for even saying this!

Occupation is a part of Colonization! The Italians physically controlled Ethiopia for 5 years..they used FORCE, there was no Authority to counter them in Ethiopia for 5 years...HaileSelassie fled like a dog with his tail between his legs! So no need to try to make an logical fallacy as "Ethiopia was not colonized but it was occupied"...haha are you serious...colonization by definition requires occupation of the land and control of the people. So for 5 years, Ethiopia was occupied and its resources plundered, and its people SUBJUGATED...Ethiopians were DOMINATED by ITALY. You can talk all you want about occupation, but it was COlonization, Ethiopia was part of "Italian Africani Orientali" = "Italian East Africa", tell me this what difference does it make it, whether its 5 years or 60 years, tell me this why is 5 years insignificant...for 5 years the Italians were able to do alot in terms of damage and construction, they built the roads in Ethiopia! So be thankful for that...but they also massacred alot of your Ethiopian people!

By definition, Italians did setup a Colony in Ethiopia, Ethiopia therefore was colonized, So don't try to play with words and say Ethiopia was not colonized but occupied are serious, are you even aware of what you are saying! You might be a victim of 1940s propaganda !