Egyptian men never marry a western women regardless of her religion

[IL Principe]

AbdulH wrote:

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Agree brother. Western women are filth and do not know how to act like proper women. I do not blame them but the society that is immoral and corrupt. They are taught that they are the same as men so behave like men but also be sex objects. I think the best we can do is educate the West and spread dawah to those who are not brainwash. I am sure there are some western women who are virgins and willing to give their time to only one man but as I say it is probably rare. Majority of western women dress and behave immorally. I think it is wise for Egyptian as well as most Arabic men to stick to their own kind unless woman will change her ways and be proper.

islamic thinking

[lil_pharaoh]

hello

[lil_pharaoh]

TanMos wrote:

I have to say I'm deeply disturbed by all of this....I'm a western christian woman who is married to a Muslim man. We connect and communicate on so many levels, better then most couples who hve been married for many many years.
We act with open mind , tolerance, acceptance and love towards each other and the others beliefs and family. I can see how the ideas who have in ure mind can be formed about the west, but I can tell you that not all are as you describe. Many Many women here are honest, faithful, and devoted wives who adore their husbands and live to do the best for their kids and their families. I respect Islam and I'm currently learning and reading all I can with an open heart. Christianity does not allow or accept immorality, certain individuals make wrong choices, this is not a refelection of christianity.
I agree that the cultural and religious differences can be a difficult hurdle for mixed couples and my husband and I have spent hours and hours and hours discussing these things and how we will live..I know in his heart he would love if I choose Islam, but if I didnt he would accept me just the same.
Each of us on this earth are in different places in our lives, need different things to progress and learn and grow. We shouldnt judge anyone, all is for a greater purpose, even what we see as bad or wrong. My husband is a very devoted muslim, he's and engineer, and he does everything for his family. He doesnt need me for visa or marriage, many were wanting to marry him in his city. We truely connected, and love each other deeply.
I respect my husband and anything that I can do to to make him happy and comfortable I will do for him...God is good and he is merciful...I pray that we can all have learn to become better and more righteous and most of all love each other
God Bless

agree with you and i have a story , would like to share here with all of u guys but i have to run to work but i promise ill say ,:)

[IL Principe]

jessica wrote:

I am glad that I found this forum it is quite interesting. I did not read many posts but will read them all later. I see AbdulH is a top contributor and I give him props for that. I am a "infidel, whore, westerner" or whatever you call "my type". My husband is an Egyptian Copt. I will tell you that I am the most loyal wife to him. He treats me like garbage. He is disrespectful, inconsiderate and lazy as hell. His philosophy is that it is always "his decision" on everything. He is going to Egypt in a few weeks for the first time and says that he is bringing his mother and 4 siblings (ages 7, 9, 12, 18) back to live with us. I already had taken care of them for over a year back in 2009 and it was pure hell. The mother did not lift a finger to help me with anything at all in the house. She laid in the bed all day. She caused many fights as well. Ever since they came here our relationship has never been the same. I've gotten beaten for various things. He tells me that if I want to split up now it is my decision. I don't know why I am so confused as to what to do. In my mind and the way that I was raised, beating someone is not a way to show affection. He says that I will get an "allowance" while he is away but also notes that he is bringing most of our money to give his dad. The point being is that I know it is easy to stereotype a certain demographic based on experiences from limited individuals. I am trying not to base all Egyptian men as being scum but it is hard not to. I do think that anyone looking for love on Skype is only looking for a Visa though. I guess we all live and learn... shrugs.

Leave.

[Love Hurghada]

IL Principe wrote:

<quoted text>Leave.

Yeh good idea, cheerio ya fanny

[IL Principe]

Love Hurghada wrote:

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Yeh good idea, cheerio ya fanny

I forgot - The pathetic ol' hag is drunk as a skunk....

[Muslimamomma]

jessica wrote:

I am glad that I found this forum it is quite interesting. I did not read many posts but will read them all later. I see AbdulH is a top contributor and I give him props for that. I am a "infidel, whore, westerner" or whatever you call "my type". My husband is an Egyptian Copt. I will tell you that I am the most loyal wife to him. He treats me like garbage. He is disrespectful, inconsiderate and lazy as hell. His philosophy is that it is always "his decision" on everything. He is going to Egypt in a few weeks for the first time and says that he is bringing his mother and 4 siblings (ages 7, 9, 12, 18) back to live with us. I already had taken care of them for over a year back in 2009 and it was pure hell. The mother did not lift a finger to help me with anything at all in the house. She laid in the bed all day. She caused many fights as well. Ever since they came here our relationship has never been the same. I've gotten beaten for various things. He tells me that if I want to split up now it is my decision. I don't know why I am so confused as to what to do. In my mind and the way that I was raised, beating someone is not a way to show affection. He says that I will get an "allowance" while he is away but also notes that he is bringing most of our money to give his dad. The point being is that I know it is easy to stereotype a certain demographic based on experiences from limited individuals. I am trying not to base all Egyptian men as being scum but it is hard not to. I do think that anyone looking for love on Skype is only looking for a Visa though. I guess we all live and learn... shrugs.

I have to agree with Il Principe here. Leave him. He's not treating you the way you deserve to be treated. Beating you? OMG! He's in America and must realize that he can go to jail for that behaviour and that's exactly where you should send him. Empty out your bank account and head for the women's shelter. Do something, anything, just get the hell away from this awful man.

[IL Principe]

Muslimamomma wrote:

<quoted text> I have to agree with Il Principe here. Leave him. He's not treating you the way you deserve to be treated. Beating you? OMG! He's in America and must realize that he can go to jail for that behaviour and that's exactly where you should send him. Empty out your bank account and head for the women's shelter. Do something, anything, just get the hell away from this awful man.

I've never understood how these women stay with a violent man....

[Michaud]

IL Principe wrote:

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I've never understood how these women stay with a violent man....

Just like YOU Pissikone stays with violent voodoo sekou toure
lol

[Spathis]

IL Principe wrote:

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islamic thinking

As opposed to nazi thinking!

[Muslimamomma]

IL Principe wrote:

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I've never understood how these women stay with a violent man....

Violent men exist in all cultures. To be fair, could you see that pratt Baron 44 behaving in a respectful manner towards a woman? I couldn't.

Leaving a violent scumbag is the best and only option. Women owe it to themselves and to their children to not live through or be exposed to that kind of crap.

A violent or controlling man remains so and only gets worse the longer he gets away with it.

My ex once tried to hit me. Once. I put him through a wall and he woke up in hospital 3 hours later. I do not abide physical violence and as a woman advocate that violence be met with equal or greater force. If you are unable to defend unequivocably or risk injury in doing so, call the damn police and get the loser out of your home. The law is stacked on a woman's side in this country and the U.S. Abuse is not tolerated.

Of course, if the woman makes excuses, becomes the apologist as so often is the case, the man has a co-dependent author to his abusive cycle. It is the man's entire dysfunction to treat a woman so, but the woman must stand up and call for help if she is unable to defend herself. One step....that's all it takes.

In Canada, if the police are called due to domestic abuse, the woman is not the person who decides whether to charge the spouse. Too often, women are cowed into changing their minds. In Canada, the police lay the charge and it sticks.

The rest of the world should adopt this idea.

[IL Principe]

Michaud wrote:

<quoted text>Just like YOU Pissikone stays with violent voodoo sekou toure
lol

BUSTED AGAIN DHIMMI!. You were the one who made this tasteless thread about Danetoo. Lmao - you are gettin' senile....you should change your nick after havin' made a thread.

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/egypt/TSPAPK...

[Spathis]

Forza_Egyptians wrote:

i say my view with some facts, i dont care if u gonna support or hate it.
90% of western men marriages with egyptian men, rapidly ends up. Because of different lifestyles,religion,culture.
Simple example: no one here in egypt wants his wife or partner to be kissed by other men,it would be better death for him. You take it so easy in your culture.

I'm in love with you Forza. Marry me.

[enlighten me]

So, I'm a 26 year old American woman. I am a college grad. With a good job, religious, smart, driven, beautiful, and strongly believe in doing good things for others.( Not to sound boastful, but I feel as if I can offer many things to a deserving suitor) I have recently began talking to a man my same age from Egypt. I plan to visit him soon. As far as all the angry words go on here...I mean wow. I guess everyone is titled to their own opinion. The Egyptian men I know are nothing like the negative things I've herd on here. Now granted, I do not know many. But I can only say amazing things about the guys I do know. Outside of being incredibly handsome, this man is so sincere, and he gives it to me straight it seems. I cannot find one flaw in him, except maybe he can get a little agitated if I'm late to talk to him. This is so understandable though. All he does is to hold me to my word and for me to respect him. He's never gotten angry, and understands if I explain my circumstances. He will wait up till really early in the morning just to talk to me (because the time zones are so different). He's kind, sweet, and religious. I'm really liking this guy. I just worry that since I am american and not egyptian, that he could not ever dedicate himself to be with me. He is not muslim, but I worry so much that his parents, or most importantly that his church would not be supportive of a relationship between an Egyptian man and a American girl. I know family and church mean so so much to him, and I would never want to put him in a position to choose. If you care for someone like the way I feel, I would sacrifice all my wants just to ensure he never feels pain or is torn between any of those. What I want to know is, what are some basic things that his family or church would require from me to approve of me. I cannot change who I am as a person. I would never want to deceive him or his family and church. Is there any actions I can take to better myself as a person? Things that would make me a suitable fit for him? This may be an impossible question, I know. I just feel so different when I think of him. He fits every definition I have of what a "real" man should be. I'm sure he can be stubborn, but we all can. I just like the way he tells it like it is. I can imagine he would want to be the head of the household, and for some reason deep inside, I like this. There's a safeness and comfort in knowing he will take care of me and protect me. I want us to support each other, and I connect with him on a level unlike I ever have with American men. Even though his English is still a little rough, and my arabic is pathetic, I still understand every point he conveys to me. Isn't it funny how a language barrier isn't such a barrier at all? Any Egyptian men, feel free to tell me what qualities you would require from your woman, what things would please you, because all I really feel is the want to please him and make him proud.

[enlighten me]

Oh dear, I've went back and read the initial post of the forum. Sounds to me like I'm in the wrong place for advice. Seeing that I am American, maybe my post is neither wanted nor appreciated here. Excuse me, I guess I should have delved a little deeper before asking for advice. If I knew how to remove it I most certainly would. It seems though than many egyptian have had either bad experiences or herd awful things about american females. I am sorry the opinions are so negative of us. But please consider the fact that not all women are the same. There are girls out there that give a bad reputation to us, but there are many girls out there that want to be righteous, and make their family, husbands, and most importantly heavenly father proud. I just wonder if the man I desire questions my morals, loyalty, and wholeness.

[waleed amin]

ok people i am muslim egyptian man and i read most of what you wrote here and i wont defend on my country or egyptian men but dont you think you are attacking them badly because for sure every country ot place regardless the religion has the good people and the bad people so for sure its not egypt only which have bad men because it has good men also , for me i love woman from canada and will marry her and i am not married and dont have kids and we gonna live together . and for your record true muslims dont cheat on their wives because this forbiden in islam and i am so sorry and so sad that these egyptian men fence to islam image with westeren or any other women and nomuslims or even muslims . and i want to applogy for those women who had this bad experience with egyptian men before and wish you all find the best for you someday .i dont there many wont agree with me about what i wrote but its the true and god will judge me for this as i have some examples as friends of me married to western women and live good life .and advice for egyptian men who read my post (fear of god )

[Aamir]

western women are disgusting!

[Aamir]

western women are the most scantily clad and promiscuous creatures on the planet.

[Andre3000]

IL Principe wrote:

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BUSTED AGAIN DHIMMI!. You were the one who made this tasteless thread about Danetoo. Lmao - you are gettin' senile....you should change your nick after havin' made a thread.
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/egypt/TSPAPK...

the dhimmi was indeed freaking busted....

[Lena]

Aamir wrote:

western women are the most scantily clad and promiscuous creatures on the planet.

really? met a lot have u? seems u only talking about the ones u have met, dont speak for all