New research reveals Christianity's Buddhist roots

Jan 26, 2013 Full story: Examiner.com 32

In January 2013, news agencies announced that former American president Bill Clinton is turning to Buddhism in order to "relax," as part of his health regime.

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Hello

Flushing, NY

#1 Jan 26, 2013
I truly hope more people will look into this connection. Those who have read the Tipitika and New Testament have noticed the obvious similarities.

There are so many similarities it's amazing. No two religions on earth have this much in common.
Hello

Flushing, NY

#2 Jan 26, 2013
Buddha Becomes a Christian Saint

Section Four of Buddhism's Relation to Christianity contains the fascinating and important story of the adoption of Buddha, by the name of "Josaphat," into the Christian pantheon of saints, For several centuries in the Middle Ages up to the 19th, Christendom heard the marvelous tales of Josaphat and Barlaam, until the Age of Enlightenment brought with it Buddhist studies that revealed the ruse.

As Lockwood (61) remarks, "The Christian legend was, in actuality, a transmutation of the life of the Buddha," a transmutation evidently occurring sometime between the third and seventh centuries AD/CE.

The Saints are Gods of Other Cultures

This fact of a transmutation of a non-Christian godman into a Christian saint is not limited to Buddha, as it occurred with several other figures from pre-Christian religion and mythology, including St. Ann, St. Lucy, St. Denis and St. Brigid, representing the deities Anna/Ana, Lucia/Lucina, Dionysus and Brighid/Brigid/Brigit/Bride, respectively.

If enterprising monks (or their priestly, pontifical or political leaders) were busy transmuting a Buddhist legend into a Christian tale as early as the third century, there is little reason to doubt that their predecessors were busily transmuting other Buddhist stories and doctrines into Christian tales and dogma—including the gospel story itself, which only emerges clearly and in detail into the historical record during the latter half of the second century—a mere decades before the Josaphat fabrication evidently was begun....

“I will not go quietly.”

Since: Feb 07

Indianapolis Indiana

#3 Jan 27, 2013
Simply propaganda. It has been said, If a person is lying injured in the road with an arrow sticking from him/her, do you look to see where the arrow came from or do you aid the person. In Buddhism, whether one god, many gods, or no god exists is of no consequence. This cannot be said of Christianity thus proving the conjecture to be False.
Hello

Flushing, NY

#4 Jan 27, 2013
Pagan and Proud wrote:
Simply propaganda. It has been said, If a person is lying injured in the road with an arrow sticking from him/her, do you look to see where the arrow came from or do you aid the person. In Buddhism, whether one god, many gods, or no god exists is of no consequence. This cannot be said of Christianity thus proving the conjecture to be False.
a Christian does not know where his teachings come from, thus is trapped in Mara's snares.

Truthfulness is the hallmark of Buddhism. There is also Dharma theft if the Christians use/ abuse Buddha's teachings in a theistic way to make theistic slaves.

Buddha is the way out.
IL Principe

Aarhus, Denmark

#5 Jan 27, 2013
Lol - Jesus was a buddhist....that will probably enrage a fundamentalist or two...but please notice that no one will get burnt alive....
Spathis

Vernon, Canada

#6 Jan 27, 2013
IL Principe wrote:
Lol - Jesus was a buddhist....that will probably enrage a fundamentalist or two...but please notice that no one will get burnt alive....
Buddha was Ukrainian!!![Scythian]

Since: Feb 10

Location hidden

#7 Jan 27, 2013
Spathis wrote:
<quoted text>Buddha was Ukrainian!!![Scythian]
And you are a Dumbostanit from the sausagestan province.

“I will not go quietly.”

Since: Feb 07

Indianapolis Indiana

#8 Jan 27, 2013
Hello wrote:
<quoted text>
a Christian does not know where his teachings come from, thus is trapped in Mara's snares.
Truthfulness is the hallmark of Buddhism. There is also Dharma theft if the Christians use/ abuse Buddha's teachings in a theistic way to make theistic slaves.
Buddha is the way out.
Simply because a belief has a commonality within another Religion, it does not make that religion necessarily related or the "originator" of another, the reality is that Christianity is far closer related with the other earlier religions in the area than it is with Buddhism.
Proselytizing "Buddha" goes directly against the teachings and reduces him to Mythological Status instead of recognizing him for what he was, a man, as well as interjecting one of the most unsavory aspects of Christianity into a Religion that simply does not need it.
Hello

Flushing, NY

#18 Jan 27, 2013
Pagan and Proud wrote:
<quoted text>Simply because a belief has a commonality within another Religion, it does not make that religion necessarily related or the "originator" of another, the reality is that Christianity is far closer related with the other earlier religions in the area than it is with Buddhism.
Proselytizing "Buddha" goes directly against the teachings and reduces him to Mythological Status instead of recognizing him for what he was, a man, as well as interjecting one of the most unsavory aspects of Christianity into a Religion that simply does not need it.
"A" similarity? The entire story of a teacher preaching to his disciples is borrowed, including the temptation by satan, returning good for evil and miracles of Buddha.

Jesus admits it's not his teachings:

John 7:16 Jesus responded to them, "What I teach doesn't come from me but from the one who sent me.

8:26 but he who sent me is true and what he has said to me I say to the world.

28 that I do nothing of myself, but as the Father taught me, I speak these things.

"for the Father is greater than I." John 14:28

IL Principe

Aarhus, Denmark

#19 Jan 28, 2013
Hey! Listen to spathis. He may be in prison for the rest of his life but that boy sure is smart....

He knows about stuff. He knows that giants built Egypt and that Buddha was from San Marino....

“I will not go quietly.”

Since: Feb 07

Indianapolis Indiana

#20 Jan 28, 2013
Hello wrote:
<quoted text>
"A" similarity? The entire story of a teacher preaching to his disciples is borrowed, including the temptation by satan, returning good for evil and miracles of Buddha.
Jesus admits it's not his teachings:
John 7:16 Jesus responded to them, "What I teach doesn't come from me but from the one who sent me.
8:26 but he who sent me is true and what he has said to me I say to the world.
28 that I do nothing of myself, but as the Father taught me, I speak these things.
"for the Father is greater than I." John 14:28
Quite interesting watching someone else try to cherry-pick verses to back up propaganda. It's simply not true, no matter how many times you try to make it so. It is a similarity, nothing more.
Hello

Flushing, NY

#21 Jan 28, 2013
Pagan and Proud wrote:
<quoted text>Quite interesting watching someone else try to cherry-pick verses to back up propaganda. It's simply not true, no matter how many times you try to make it so. It is a similarity, nothing more.
Yes it is true. There are hundreds more-- cherry pick? You obviously have a Christian agenda.

Every scholar who has read the scriptures have come to the same conclusion.

“I will not go quietly.”

Since: Feb 07

Indianapolis Indiana

#22 Jan 29, 2013
Hello wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes it is true. There are hundreds more-- cherry pick? You obviously have a Christian agenda.
Every scholar who has read the scriptures have come to the same conclusion.
Actually no they haven't, the majority that have read them realize that Christianity is derivative of the other Religions in the area, not Buddhism.
Cherry picking is the practice used when particular quotes are used out of context to back up false claims, such as that which you are currently doing.
Perhaps you should educate yourself a bit better.
http://www.pocm.info
Hello

Flushing, NY

#23 Jan 29, 2013
I have real scholars who actually have read the texts and don't just make up stuff. You love humiliating yourself?

In 1816, the historian George Faber in his book, The Origin of Pagan Idolatry Ascertained from Historical Testimony, writes,“There is so strong a resemblance between the characters of Jesus and of Buddha, that it cannot have been purely accidental.”(1816: 649)9
The German scholar, Max Müller (1823-1900), a pioneer of comparative religion, learning of the Buddhist/Christian borrowing claims, intended to prove the priority of the Jesus gospels over the Buddh- ist texts. However, later, in his India: What it Can Teach Us, he notes “[t]hat there are startling coincid- ences between Buddhism and Christianity cannot be denied, and it must likewise be admitted that Buddh- ism existed at least 400 years before Christianity. I go even further, and should feel extremely grateful if anybody would point out to me the historical channels through which Buddhism had influenced early Christianity.”(1883).
Rudolf Seydel of the University of Leipzig, in The Gospel of Jesus in relation to the Buddha Legend (1882), and again, in The Buddha Legend and the Life of Jesus (1897), noted around fifty similarities between Buddhist and Christian parables and teachings.

E Washburn Hopkins of Yale in his History of Religions (1918), even claims that “Finally, the life, temptation, miracles, parables, and even the disciples of Jesus have been derived directly from Buddh- ism.”(1918: 552, 556).

Daniel Hopkins, in his book, Father and Son, East is West (2007), gives the Buddhist sources of Christianity and their influence on medieval myths, in which he claims that the Jesus gospels were highly allegorical and mysterious in order to hide the name of Jesus’ father, which he claims was the Buddha’s name.
Burkhard Scherer, Professor of Indo-Tibetan Studies at England’s Canterbury Christ Church Uni- versity, writes:“...it is very important to draw attention to the fact that there is [massive] Buddhist influ- ence in the Gospels.... Since more than a hundred years, Buddhist influence in the Gospels has been known and acknowledged by scholars from both sides.” And adds:“Just recently, Duncan McDerret published his excellent The Bible and the Buddhists (Sardini, Bornato [Italy] 2001).18 With McDerret, I am convinced that there are many Buddhist narratives in the Gospels.”19

“Mellita, domi adsum ”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#25 Jan 29, 2013
Spathis wrote:
<quoted text>Bunkbarren klunt
Slummus is everywhere.
Time you confined yourself slummus!
Khaled

San Clemente, CA

#26 Jan 29, 2013
Spathis wrote:
<quoted text>Bunkbarren klunt
Did you see the blunk with his k[l]unt try to funck his stun[c]k...lol

“I will not go quietly.”

Since: Feb 07

Indianapolis Indiana

#28 Jan 30, 2013
Hello wrote:
I have real scholars who actually have read the texts and don't just make up stuff. You love humiliating yourself?
In 1816, the historian George Faber in his book, The Origin of Pagan Idolatry Ascertained from Historical Testimony, writes,“There is so strong a resemblance between the characters of Jesus and of Buddha, that it cannot have been purely accidental.”(1816: 649)9
The German scholar, Max Müller (1823-1900), a pioneer of comparative religion, learning of the Buddhist/Christian borrowing claims, intended to prove the priority of the Jesus gospels over the Buddh- ist texts. However, later, in his India: What it Can Teach Us, he notes “[t]hat there are startling coincid- ences between Buddhism and Christianity cannot be denied, and it must likewise be admitted that Buddh- ism existed at least 400 years before Christianity. I go even further, and should feel extremely grateful if anybody would point out to me the historical channels through which Buddhism had influenced early Christianity.”(1883).
Rudolf Seydel of the University of Leipzig, in The Gospel of Jesus in relation to the Buddha Legend (1882), and again, in The Buddha Legend and the Life of Jesus (1897), noted around fifty similarities between Buddhist and Christian parables and teachings.
E Washburn Hopkins of Yale in his History of Religions (1918), even claims that “Finally, the life, temptation, miracles, parables, and even the disciples of Jesus have been derived directly from Buddh- ism.”(1918: 552, 556).
Daniel Hopkins, in his book, Father and Son, East is West (2007), gives the Buddhist sources of Christianity and their influence on medieval myths, in which he claims that the Jesus gospels were highly allegorical and mysterious in order to hide the name of Jesus’ father, which he claims was the Buddha’s name.
Burkhard Scherer, Professor of Indo-Tibetan Studies at England’s Canterbury Christ Church Uni- versity, writes:“...it is very important to draw attention to the fact that there is [massive] Buddhist influ- ence in the Gospels.... Since more than a hundred years, Buddhist influence in the Gospels has been known and acknowledged by scholars from both sides.” And adds:“Just recently, Duncan McDerret published his excellent The Bible and the Buddhists (Sardini, Bornato [Italy] 2001).18 With McDerret, I am convinced that there are many Buddhist narratives in the Gospels.”19
No, what you have are a handful of speculative ramblers, not a concise group of recognized and accredited Scholars. Amusing but Wrong on all counts, nothing more than wish fulfillment and fanciful thinking. There is actual doubt in the REAL scholarly fields as to whether or not Jesus even existed, much less him being a Buddhist Creation. Belief in a Higher Power is not a requirement in Buddhism while it is an integral part of Christianity. Maybe it's time you put your fantasy to rest.
Hello

Flushing, NY

#29 Jan 30, 2013
Pagan and Proud wrote:
<quoted text>No, what you have are a handful of speculative ramblers, not a concise group of recognized and accredited Scholars. Amusing but Wrong on all counts, nothing more than wish fulfillment and fanciful thinking. There is actual doubt in the REAL scholarly fields as to whether or not Jesus even existed, much less him being a Buddhist Creation. Belief in a Higher Power is not a requirement in Buddhism while it is an integral part of Christianity. Maybe it's time you put your fantasy to rest.
Did you even graduate college? You seem to be an illiterate. These are some of the most recognized scholars on Asian religions.

You seem to be the biggest idiot -- no wonder the pagans were destroyed if they were monkeys like you.

“I will not go quietly.”

Since: Feb 07

Indianapolis Indiana

#30 Jan 30, 2013
Hello wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you even graduate college? You seem to be an illiterate. These are some of the most recognized scholars on Asian religions.
You seem to be the biggest idiot -- no wonder the pagans were destroyed if they were monkeys like you.
Actually I DID graduate college, one of the things I learned was how to distinguish between flights of fancy and actual recognized research that is acknowledged and accredited, neither of which distinctions can be applied to the doodoo you're trying to support with your specious argument.
Get a life, get a real education, and try to find a more gullible crowd to feed this drivel to, it's not working here.

“Mystical Atheism for everyone!”

Since: Nov 08

El Cerrito California

#31 Jan 30, 2013
Both historical Christianity and Buddhism focused on the experiential truth that can be found at the core of each of us.

So of course there would be similarities. What is, is. This holds true for all of us, Buddhist and Christian alike. Similarities can even be found in Taoism. Sufism, and many other spiritual paths that all focus on the same experiential truth that is the foundation of the consciousness we all share.

If you look in some of the gospels that were uncovered at Nag Hammadi you will find that the historical Jesus could even be considered a Zen master based on how he taught. Here is an interesting article on the similarities that can be seen:

http://www.zenfortherestofus.com/jesus.html

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