Since: Mar 08

Egypt

#22 Aug 10, 2008
Sheena Malaysia wrote:
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Be very careful, be very wary of things he says and does...continous lying seems to be a survival character for them....personally i am just about to come out from the heart breaking situation with a 24 year old egyptian guy from Zigazig i met thru the internet brought me. In short, I paid for him to come to Malaysia as the chatting has lead to a relationship leading to marriage. I am a divorcee and boy did I fell for this guy or what...call me stupid but this was decreed to be. Once he got to Malaysia, he demands just about everything under the sky...paid for his apartmnet and all the new furnishings and goods to make his life comfortable before we got married. Then had to give him money so he can renew his visit visa...was I in for a surprise...he went with another Malaysian lady who was 3 years younger then me whom, now i know, he has been dating on the pretext of business. Apparently, they have been sleeping together without my knowledge. After the overseas trip, he was adamant about needing money to run the business with his friend in USA and need to make money so he could prove to my family that he is capable to take care of me and will let him marry me. On this reasons and that I really cared about him, I gave him the money he needed...and I was in for a big surprise when his landlord informed me he just got married 1 day before i gave him the money for our future life and 1 day after he moved out from the apartment i rented for him with all the things i bought for us and my brand new laptop and broadband...that almost killed a 42 years old woman from major heartbreak. Now i do not know where he is but I am sure he has spent my hard earn cash well on the other woman, whom he has called fat and ugly to me to divert my attention.
It is always amazing to me how little some women know about the man's culture before getting involved or marrying him. FIRST, you were 42 and he was 24 ??!!?? Comeon, are you serious?
No red flags ?? You could be his mother!

SECOND, never ever EVER give them money, not a dollar, not a pound, not a sterling NOTHING. Why should you have to pay his way? You should have asked him to work in Egypt and save his own money before joining you and paying his own way. The minute he started asking you for money you should have had immigration ship him back to his flea-ridden dusty village back in the middle of Nowhere, Egypt. He is probably low-class, little to no education and sucking off of women to get anything so he can go back home and look like a celebrity.

It's sad.

In their culture the man is so low to even take the smallest thing from a woman. In their culture if he marries a woman older it is usually for A REASON. It does happen but rarely and even if it does it usually isn't much older, maybe 5 years.

Please ladies, get to know the culture he is coming from before you jump off of the marital bridge. You have no idea how differnet it is and you're just asking for trouble if you do not.
polarz

Saugus, MA

#23 Aug 10, 2008
ZinbadAlive wrote:
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American or English women in intimate relationships with younger EGyptian guys;
ask yourself:
Is this young man financially secure? coming from a welloff family? Has his own car, his own apartment if not mansion? has well-paiyng job? has good education?
simply can live "independently"?
If the answers with No
So, He whoever that He, is considering yu as a Savior to lift him from a desparate unknown destiny to easy access for financial success in either America or Europe.
If the answers the otherwise Yes
He can be considered as financially independent
He has financial resources, job/family heritage
so, he could be "honest" in getting attached to you.
I will never forget an American lady, was a little older than me, upper middle class, she used to come over from a town 40 miles north from where I was studying in America, and knowing me as a graduate student with limited financial resources, still before she was served she enjoyed my paiying for our dinning out in a classy restaurant. She used to ask me to come in my vacations to stay at her mansion as her hubby knew about me but I was too coward to accept such invitation/situation.
Yu can test him by letting him pay for yr dinning out/buying a dress/or whatever, then tentatively observe his reactions.
I want to ask... why does he have to be rich with a home and car in order for him to genuinely love a girl? Are you saying that all poor Egyptian guys have bad intentions towards an American? I think that is quite a generalization. Or does this just applies to older Americans/European women with younger Egyptian guy?

Since: Mar 08

Egypt

#24 Aug 10, 2008
polarz wrote:
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I want to ask... why does he have to be rich with a home and car in order for him to genuinely love a girl? Are you saying that all poor Egyptian guys have bad intentions towards an American? I think that is quite a generalization. Or does this just applies to older Americans/European women with younger Egyptian guy?
In my opinion it depends on the guy and his family. I've known some who are honest and sincere with the girl they marry. They do marry a foreigner to hopefully change their life for the better but they also are serious in the marriage and honest and GOOD. However, those are few and far between. From what I have seen, most are going to use the woman for a means to an end, once it is ended, he's gone. Sad to say. A man with money isn't going to NEED that woman as much, but I have known some who have money to still use the woman. I've also known some with no money, nothing to their name marry the woman in an honest and sincere way.

There's no REAL way of knowing you just have to pray and roll the dice. BUT your chances of getting that DIFFERNET and really good one are sooo low. If you are older than him, they're almost non-existant.
recently married

Korea

#25 Aug 10, 2008
EGYPTIAN MEN ARE NOT LIKE CANADIAN MEN. not saying they r better or worse but they r different and their culture is different and they will treat you different..........be culturally aware people and if u r than enjoy what the wonderful egyptian culture has to offer!!
La rose blanche

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#26 Aug 26, 2008
I'm planning to get married to an Egyptian whom i met thru the internet 8 years back. we were on and off and now we are back for good. Its not that i have not met any guy before but i just think he has the stability in terms of financial. our relationship has its ups and downs but i'm trying to adapt to their so called "culture" or i should say behaviour. I would definitely would like to know more about them before commiting into anything serious. Anybody who can help me understand Egyptian men better, because they are definately different than western guy.
sweety

Juarez, Mexico

#27 Aug 27, 2008
La rose blanche wrote:
I'm planning to get married to an Egyptian whom i met thru the internet 8 years back. we were on and off and now we are back for good. Its not that i have not met any guy before but i just think he has the stability in terms of financial. our relationship has its ups and downs but i'm trying to adapt to their so called "culture" or i should say behaviour. I would definitely would like to know more about them before commiting into anything serious. Anybody who can help me understand Egyptian men better, because they are definately different than western guy.
I think that if you have the purpose to marry, please let him to show you his interest. That is I know now that when an egyptian want to marry make a big celebration (for example, really it seems to an after marriage celebration that you can see in all american movies, except but the dresses), only to announce his future marriage. Did he make it for you?

Does he have money to travel you? Or does he need that you support that? Do you have a marriage contract? A muslim friend told me that if really a good egyptian man want to marry, you have to establish the marriage contract, like a business contract, with duties and rights.

Why must be the foreigners those that demonstrate to the Egyptians that we loved them and not the other way? The love must be reciprocal.

I wish you good luck.

Open your mind, to show your heart if he really deserves you.

I loved an egyptian, but he does not. I knew him online, he promised me marriage, but never did anything to make real "our" dream. At least any, that could be real according with his own traditions.
please help me

Palestinian Territory

#28 Sep 25, 2008
I am an American ,I was recently in Egypt and I married an Egyptian man there on August 2nd. We met online and I came there and stayed for 3 weeks.He told me that he is from rich classy family and he will pay for my flight ticket and for everything when i come there and i found out he have nothing and he depended on me and my child money. We did an Islamic contract of marriage in the court in Alexandria and even though this man was a converted Christian (or so he said), he falsely put down on this contract he was a muslim and also put down he was never married before, he was married to agirl from south africa named Adila and he show me the marriage contract but never showed the divorce paper. He of course had good explanations to me at the time as to why he put these false statements down on that contract so this is part of what made me start opening my eyes to his lies after I returned back home here. I started questioning muslims here as I thought that was strange for him to lie like that and this is what started me even questioning this manís intentions. Since returning here to the states, I realized this man fooled me and took advantage of me . This man has had illegal status throughout the European countries for many years and just returned to Egypt about 3 years ago. This man ďindirectlyĒ cheated me out of much money while I was there such as putting me in bad sitiuations where I had no choice but to get money from my bank account and credit cards through the ATM. I also had to have money sent Western union by a friend otherwise I would not have had a place to sleep or eat there or even had money to get back to cairo for my flight. I have the bank records to prove all the money spent there. He paid a dentist there $100 from my money and he had me send him $200 westernunion after I reached home. He told his family that i was a doctor to make me look good enough for them and he asked me not to tell that my ex-husband was arabic and not to even mention this marriage to them for some unknown reason. I spent over $5000 total on this trip and have receipts to prove this. I did have to give him $360 in cash to pay for a rental car which was a private rental car for 2 weeks. HE told me at that time that the car cost us like $700 for 2 weeks and that he had paid for one week already and he made me pay the $360 for the second week. He said that he spent on me $1500 in one week and after searching the prices online and things that we did there i know that he didnt spend half this money and I am the one who spent all the moeny hosting him in his country. This man had a really bad nervous temper and would shout at me often making me cry almost daily with this shouting. I never felt scared to the point he could physically abuse me though but his temper was quiet frightening at times. I couldnt count the egyption money and he use to pay from my money for everything. When i asked him to give me my flight ticket money which he agreed to pay before i even leave here which was $1500, he told me i cant give u the money unless ur change ur family name to my family name and it was his way to push me to apply for him here. He have multiple personalities and he would shout on me and make me cry if his mood change. I have requested a divorce from this man many times and he is very angry about this and has went as far as to tell me he will not divorce me unless I pay him money he says he spent on our stay there and also has sent me messages by text and by online telling me he wants his money back that he paid to me for an american visa which is not true and it was his way to scare me and to make me apply for him. This is a major crime he is acusing me of and I need help to resolve this before it turns into something very complicated.
continue

Palestinian Territory

#29 Sep 25, 2008
I feel I cannot trust anyone there as many tried to cheat me when I was there, in cairo they attempted fraud on me and tried to take my money. I need legal advise and help here from AMERICAN GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS!!! Please help me here. I donít want to cause a problem within our government and get them involved and the media and such. Please help me here with this mess. This man has a bad temper and put me in some frightening situations there and shouted to me many times. Please tell me what to do please. He has split personality and I do feel this man would go as far as to accuse me of something very illegal just because I did not continue with this fraudulent marriage and bring him to the states and give him status here. I did leave a lot of my documents there with this man such as my original birth certificate, income tax papers, social security number, bank statements, copy of driver license as so forth.I hope and pray this man is not as bad as his temper portrays him to be but after he accused me of taking money from him for the American visa I am really worried now that he is someone I never really knew at all and that he can do bad things if he does not get his way! I do know his family is very dangerous people.There was a man I talked to in alexandria foreign ministry and this man signed our marriage contract approval. He spoke very good English and he talked to me about the intentions of our marriage and made sure it was legit. At the time of course I felt it was and I felt this man was honest to me 100%. I would love to know this manís name and get in contact with him also as I felt I could really trust this man and his position within the ministry. I did come to the embassy there to get affidavit for approval of marriage after I brought in my previous divorce decrees from here. I am sure you will have these on file there and some of my information.I will reach out to every official I can there in Egypt and hope this email and my plea for help will reach the right hands of justice! I hope it will reach President Mobarak office. This fraud that some Egyptian men there are doing is wrong and needs to be stopped! Yes some of them are the best actors when it comes to winning the trust and hearts of western women and some are professionals in this crime!
My email address is honeybear20022@yahoo.com. Please contact me as soon as possible on this matter,
please!

Since: Mar 08

Egypt

#30 Sep 25, 2008
please help me wrote:
I am an American ,I was recently in Egypt and I married an Egyptian man there on August 2nd. We met online and I came there and stayed for 3 weeks.He told me that he is from rich classy family and he will pay for my flight ticket and for everything when i come there and i found out he have nothing and he depended on me and my child money. We did an Islamic contract of marriage in the court in Alexandria and even though this man was a converted Christian (or so he said), he falsely put down on this contract he was a muslim and also put down he was never married before, he was married to agirl from south africa named Adila and he show me the marriage contract but never showed the divorce paper. He of course had good explanations to me at the time as to why he put these false statements down on that contract so this is part of what made me start opening my eyes to his lies after I returned back home here.
My advice, save any and all correspondence from this man, save documentation showing where he is attempting to embezzle you out of money for a divorce. Contact a good attorney in Cairo and ask for their help, you might have to make a trip to Egypt to finalize things, but at least you can get the ball rolling on a divorce from this parasite.
I've heard many times of men doing this, and they hold the woman a virtual hostage, refusing to divorce and they can unless a randsom is paid for the break-off. Isn't that sad?
HOWEVER, did you register the marriage in the states? If not, then if you don't plan to marry any time soon it doesn't matter. Stay married to him by Egyptian law hopefully you don't plan to return and when he is ready to marry AGAIN he will have to divorce you or reveal things to his new wife and that will be done.
Long story short, if you meet them online, dont marry unless you have visited him, met all of his family, seen his private documents, everything. If he is honest he will be open with you, otherwise he is hiding something and probably will be. You should have hopped a plane the moment you found out he was dirt poor, that was a huge red flag, I mean why lie.
mohamed

Navan, Ireland

#31 Oct 21, 2008
hi all
eglishrose donot belive this , he could be in love with you
iam living in Uk too and my wife have the diffrent in age too same as you and she is really a perfct person .
but in same time u have to take care before marriage and see how is the things going if he is honset go a head because egyptian men cannot be in realtionship for long time without marry , u can know if he is honset or not , visit his family and his town and see how is he and his family thinking and if it is ok with you go a head
mohamed

Navan, Ireland

#32 Oct 21, 2008
polarz wrote:
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I want to ask... why does he have to be rich with a home and car in order for him to genuinely love a girl? Are you saying that all poor Egyptian guys have bad intentions towards an American? I think that is quite a generalization. Or does this just applies to older Americans/European women with younger Egyptian guy?
100 % agree with you my friend in egypt very poor and he married from american girl and they r very happy together and he spend all of his life and money he get from his wages now with her and she is not working , not all egyptian guys and poors this mean they r bad it depend on who is he ?
my ex girl was english and we were soooooooo happy and i had cars company in egypt even i lost it we stayed together
mohamed

Navan, Ireland

#33 Oct 21, 2008
heeeeeeeeeeeeeeey people
what is fun is it ?
why all blames the egyptian guys or thinking like this about them
i have loooooooooooooooots of friends married from western world and they r very happy and have big families
in same cases we can blam them and some cases u see the western player girls too and same as egyptian they r asking about money too i had american friends looooooots of time asked me for money too and she have problem this days in america and as usual i said sorry lol
The Shadow

Ottawa, Canada

#34 Oct 21, 2008
What u should do is this: put his name out were everyone knows who he is - were he lives - and anything else u can think of. Don't let this person get away with anything.
American Woman -2

East Syracuse, NY

#35 Oct 24, 2008
american woman wrote:
so i am looking 2 share experience with all of you in my shoes 37 years old american woman was decieved by an internet relationship with a 22 egyptian guy looking to hear from women in my shoees
I am 51 years old, upper middle class, and have been corresponding with someone from Egypt for almost a year and he is only 32. I would love to hear your story.
American Woman -2

East Syracuse, NY

#36 Oct 24, 2008
To the American woman who is 37 and was deceived by the Egyptian man age 22---I am in a similar situation and would like to talk to you.

My email address is: RJYMOHAWK@AOL.COM.

Thank you.
American Woman -2

East Syracuse, NY

#37 Oct 24, 2008
I would greatly appreciate hearing what you have to say.
American-2

New York, NY

#38 Oct 24, 2008
Anne1 wrote:
American woman....do tell your story...if you start a thread...and make this type of accusation...then do share, as there are many of us who love Egyptian men and have positive stories. All you have to do is read the threads and you will see tons of negative stories. My advice...just investigate and be sure of someone prior to getting involved as I did. Good Luck to you next time.
May I ask how to investigate someone from Egypt?
RamesesII

Eugene, OR

#39 Oct 24, 2008
If you give me a BJ, I will tell you.
The Shadow

Canada

#40 Oct 27, 2008
Amerian-2!

If, I was u I would get myself a good Private Investigator. Check with your Embassy & they should be able to help u. This way u will be able to fine out were he lives - works & if he is married etc..
am i foolish

Caroga Lake, NY

#41 Oct 27, 2008
I am wondering if it is possible to find an honest egyptian man. I met someone on line, he is so very sweet and appears to be honest. I am 48 an he is 29 he says he loves me, an i truly want to believe this but then i realize you are right what would a young man do with an old lady> i do have blonde hair an blue eyes and just wondering if there is way to ask questions that mite let me see if it is real or a lie. I would also love to travel to egypt, but am alos very leary of traveling alone. is any one plannig a trip in near future? mplease post back thanks

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