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#22 Feb 3, 2013
Spathis wrote:
<quoted text>Parrot
The arab spring just sprang up your arse, lmfao. Where are your comments on the content of this Arab guys statement, are you unable to justify your propaganda and hatred of Israel in light of the facts presented? Thats a rhetorical question, dummy.
leah

Hull, UK

#23 Feb 3, 2013
Spathis wrote:
<quoted text>shill
What happens when the excuses run out Spathis?
Blaming the West didn't work, neither has blaming the Jews nor has the arab spring by the look of it?
Next up?
Spathis

Vernon, Canada

#24 Feb 3, 2013
leah wrote:
<quoted text> What happens when the excuses run out Spathis?
Blaming the West didn't work, neither has blaming the Jews nor has the arab spring by the look of it?
Next up?
Truth leah is that the imposition of that curse called israel into the middle east and imposing war victims into a peaceful country like Palestine is the root of all mid eastern problems today-all interconnected-I believe the end and the solution are nigh and when the wound is cleansed peace will have a chance-The rest is silence

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#25 Feb 3, 2013
Spathis wrote:
<quoted text>Truth leah is that the imposition of that curse called israel into the middle east and imposing war victims into a peaceful country like Palestine is the root of all mid eastern problems today-all interconnected-I believe the end and the solution are nigh and when the wound is cleansed peace will have a chance-The rest is silence
The arab spring just sprang up your arse, lmfao. Where are your comments on the content of this Arab guys statement, are you unable to justify your propaganda and hatred of Israel in light of the facts presented? Thats a rhetorical question, dummy.

The old sausage boy ignores questions he cant answer, just like his f**k buddy George Galloway the traitor.

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#26 Feb 3, 2013
Spathis wrote:
<quoted text>Truth leah is that the imposition of that curse called israel into the middle east and imposing war victims into a peaceful country like Palestine is the root of all mid eastern problems today-all interconnected-I believe the end and the solution are nigh and when the wound is cleansed peace will have a chance-The rest is silence
Of course they are, sunni killing shia, Kurds killing Iraqies, syrians killing syrians, libyans killing libyans - there is a jew behind every death in the eyes of morons and deniers of arab stupidity and violence.
leah

Hull, UK

#27 Feb 3, 2013
Spathis wrote:
<quoted text>Truth leah is that the imposition of that curse called israel into the middle east and imposing war victims into a peaceful country like Palestine is the root of all mid eastern problems today-all interconnected-I believe the end and the solution are nigh and when the wound is cleansed peace will have a chance-The rest is silence
So, would the dismantling of the State of Israel put a stop to sectarian violence in Pakistan and Afghanistan for instance?
Two countries not in close proximity to Israel but both prone to outbreaks of sectarian violence.

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#28 Feb 3, 2013
where has spathis gone, that aficionado of the middle east, that peddler of propaganda and spurious facts, that sausage swallowing laggard, where the f**k has he gone? Why can he not refute the facts given by this Arab guy? I cant imagine why he can offer no rebuttal?

“Mellita, domi adsum ”

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#29 Feb 3, 2013
leah wrote:
<quoted text> So, would the dismantling of the State of Israel put a stop to sectarian violence in Pakistan and Afghanistan for instance?
Two countries not in close proximity to Israel but both prone to outbreaks of sectarian violence.
Spatass's aim is not to create peace in the middle east but merely to reverse the killing. He and his sorts are never driven by the desire to create peace, but merely by hate.

So far we haven't seen Israelis destroying western targets or blowing embassies up etc. So why would anyone with any common sense support a people born and raised in hate to the western societies?
Spathis

Vernon, Canada

#30 Feb 3, 2013
CantHideTheTruth wrote:
<quoted text>
The arab spring just sprang up your arse, lmfao. Where are your comments on the content of this Arab guys statement, are you unable to justify your propaganda and hatred of Israel in light of the facts presented? Thats a rhetorical question, dummy.
The old sausage boy ignores questions he cant answer, just like his f**k buddy George Galloway the traitor.
Parrot
Spathis

Vernon, Canada

#31 Feb 3, 2013
leah wrote:
<quoted text> So, would the dismantling of the State of Israel put a stop to sectarian violence in Pakistan and Afghanistan for instance?
Two countries not in close proximity to Israel but both prone to outbreaks of sectarian violence.
What about the 'sectarian violence' in Europe that cost us two world wars and millions dead?
Before we get on our high horse!
The imposition of israel as a political idea was wrong poorly thought through poorly executed and based on private agendas-
Result??
Over sixty years of mayhem!
Those that invaded and caused the mayhem must make sincere efforts to resolve this appalling injustice!
To date they have not!
leah

Hull, UK

#32 Feb 3, 2013
Spathis wrote:
<quoted text>What about the 'sectarian violence' in Europe that cost us two world wars and millions dead?
Before we get on our high horse!
The imposition of israel as a political idea was wrong poorly thought through poorly executed and based on private agendas-
Result??
Over sixty years of mayhem!
Those that invaded and caused the mayhem must make sincere efforts to resolve this appalling injustice!
To date they have not!
The world wars weren't specifically based on sectarian strife. You seem to think the eradication of Israel will lead to peace in the Middle East although history has proved that sectarian violence has been a thorn in the side of Islam since the death of Mohammad. The Jews have been a convenient scapegoat for muslims who need diversionary tactics to focus their attentions on rather than their own misbegotten problems.
leah

Hull, UK

#33 Feb 3, 2013
Bluntey wrote:
<quoted text>
Spatass's aim is not to create peace in the middle east but merely to reverse the killing. He and his sorts are never driven by the desire to create peace, but merely by hate.
So far we haven't seen Israelis destroying western targets or blowing embassies up etc. So why would anyone with any common sense support a people born and raised in hate to the western societies?
I agree. I've never yet seen members of the Jewish community threatening us with beheading or the imposition of their religious laws upon us, like muslims have done in the past.

Why on earth Palestinians think acts of terrorism in the West (or elsewhere for that matter) will gain them support beggars belief.

“Inveterate Islamaphobe”

Since: Jan 12

Canada

#34 Feb 3, 2013
Spathis wrote:
<quoted text>What about the 'sectarian violence' in Europe that cost us two world wars and millions dead?
Before we get on our high horse!
The imposition of israel as a political idea was wrong poorly thought through poorly executed and based on private agendas-
Result??
Over sixty years of mayhem!
Those that invaded and caused the mayhem must make sincere efforts to resolve this appalling injustice!
To date they have not!
This argument makes sense in retrospection...but I don't see its applicability in today's world where politics is vastly different.

If Serbia was able to begrudgingly make concessions in regards to Kosovo, how come such a concept as political compromise is so difficult for the Muslim world? They need to view things via the lens of politics and not their religion.

If the Arab nations could promise that they wouldn't harm Israel, I see no reason why the latter wouldn't end the Palestinian occupation tomorrow....but with fringe elements like Hamas/Hezbollah being given free reign, there is next to no possibility of the aforementioned coming to fruition.
Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#35 Feb 3, 2013
"CAIRO (AP) An Egyptian man who was beaten and dragged naked by riot police during a violent protest changed his story on Sunday, telling prosecutors that security forces harmed him a day after he accused protesters of undressing and assaulting him."
"Saber then said that his family, including his children, threatened to shun him unless he told the truth about the police attack."
The Egyptian "revolution" has come full circle. The Egyptian police are now beating and azz-raping men on the street.

“Mellita, domi adsum ”

Since: Jun 11

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#36 Feb 3, 2013
Spathis wrote:
<quoted text>What about the 'sectarian violence' in Europe that cost us two world wars and millions dead?
Before we get on our high horse!
The imposition of israel as a political idea was wrong poorly thought through poorly executed and based on private agendas-
Result??
Over sixty years of mayhem!
Those that invaded and caused the mayhem must make sincere efforts to resolve this appalling injustice!
To date they have not!
I fail to see how the failures of the past would be remedied by committing worse failures in the future.

why would the west side with a people that, is as inherently destructive and negative towards western values?

It was not the Israelis who kidnapped, killed, bombed, and hijacked their way into the mind of those who now despise them. It was the Palestinians.

Give me one good reason why we should be sympathetic towards someone who basically has a deep felt hate towards anything we stand for, and even when given shelter in our countries thank us by continuously braking the laws of the lands in all thinkable manner.
Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#37 Feb 3, 2013
Spathis hates his own people. He hates himself.
Spathis

Vernon, Canada

#38 Feb 3, 2013
leah wrote:
<quoted text> The world wars weren't specifically based on sectarian strife. You seem to think the eradication of Israel will lead to peace in the Middle East although history has proved that sectarian violence has been a thorn in the side of Islam since the death of Mohammad. The Jews have been a convenient scapegoat for muslims who need diversionary tactics to focus their attentions on rather than their own misbegotten problems.
The European wars were definitely sectarian and religious in nature back in the medieval times-
The commone market was hailed as a new way to put an end to such strife among other advantages.
The jews are not used as a scapegoat -the European jews have caused a great deal of mayhem by their invasion of Palestine.
They are no i9nnocents or victims-The real victims are the Palestinians and victims of the jews!
I do not say that israel should ccease to exist but I do say that the'jewish state' as it describes itself [a religious desription!]must make an honourable and sincere effort to diffuse and to live in peace with arabs.
Jews of the middle east had lived in peace with arabs for centuries.
Spathis

Vernon, Canada

#39 Feb 3, 2013
Bluntey wrote:
<quoted text>
I fail to see how the failures of the past would be remedied by committing worse failures in the future.
why would the west side with a people that, is as inherently destructive and negative towards western values?
It was not the Israelis who kidnapped, killed, bombed, and hijacked their way into the mind of those who now despise them. It was the Palestinians.
Give me one good reason why we should be sympathetic towards someone who basically has a deep felt hate towards anything we stand for, and even when given shelter in our countries thank us by continuously braking the laws of the lands in all thinkable manner.
Ofcourse the question that needs to be asked is
Why should the Palestinians or any arab be 'sympathetic' to any 'values' that have caused them to suffer a holocaust for over six decades?
Until we stop changing the history of the facts of the jewish invasion and the massacres perpetrated in the name of zionism and accept that Palestine was a victim that needs to be helped recover with respect dignity and justice then there shall be no peace .
The Palestinians do not seek 'sympathy' they seek justice and they must have it!
those who break the law in European or North American countries need to be held accountable but no more or less than anyone of us because our 'values' dictate we are all equal under the law and our democracies!

“Mellita, domi adsum ”

Since: Jun 11

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#40 Feb 3, 2013
Spathis wrote:
<quoted text>Ofcourse the question that needs to be asked is
Why should the Palestinians or any arab be 'sympathetic' to any 'values' that have caused them to suffer a holocaust for over six decades?
Until we stop changing the history of the facts of the jewish invasion and the massacres perpetrated in the name of zionism and accept that Palestine was a victim that needs to be helped recover with respect dignity and justice then there shall be no peace .
The Palestinians do not seek 'sympathy' they seek justice and they must have it!
those who break the law in European or North American countries need to be held accountable but no more or less than anyone of us because our 'values' dictate we are all equal under the law and our democracies!
You define your point of view and you are entitled to that, and obviously this also defines the problem in a wider context.

basically it creates to opposite viewpoints and neither are willing to move an inch.

For me its simple, I'll go with any solution that solves the situation.
However if the solution lies in just "tipping the scales" so that one vile bunch is replaced with another then count me out.

As an outsider I would rather stay with the devil I know.

I don't particularly care whether the palestinians are sympathetic to the western point of view, they have their end of the rope and we have ours, so I guess we will just have to cope with that.
Khaled

San Clemente, CA

#41 Feb 3, 2013
Actually, the discussion is Europeo-european... there is no value in it... The moslem world is rearranging its priority and soon the discussion will be "arabo-musulman"... what will come from it will seal the destiny of Israel...From 1948 ...the debate excluded the moslems... because the majority of them were under western occupation... and the war is still raging in Palestine... Soon another dynamic will take place and this dynamic will take in consideration the crimes commited by Israel... The outcome is going to be really bad for the sionists... The Moslems are not South Africans....

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