Anti-Haitian Bias Rooted in Dominican History

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antonia de new york

Montvale, NJ

#1 Mar 2, 2006
que estupida te ves
AfroDR

Jersey City, NJ

#3 May 27, 2006
Brothers and sisters gotta wake up to the fact that we in the dominican republic are majorly of african descent, just like Haiti, Jamaika, Barbados and the rest of the carribean countries. In the dominican republic we need to stop the bullshit romancing of people being indians. That is not true, maybe 10% of the people living in the dominican republic may have some very distant taino blood. Most don't most are obviously of african descent, just walk down the street of any dominican city and you will see that. Is there mixes? Yes, same thin in haiti, there are mixed haitians but that doesn't take away from the African base of our dominican culture. We must stop acting like house negros, and de-brainwash ourselves from that mentality.
Paco

Fort Pierce, FL

#4 Jun 2, 2006
Mabey,being the hiphop generation and all; Everyone want's to be
BLACK! I'll stay being Spanish Myself!!
chaz

United States

#5 Jun 3, 2006
It would be nice to stay human first!
Jason

Eastchester, NY

#6 Jun 8, 2006
if haiti was rich, everyone would love haitians.
Steve from New York City

United States

#7 Jun 9, 2006
The dominant elite in the Dominican Republic has imposed an ethnic configuration that portrays the imposing majority of blacks in Haiti as a threat to the social fabric of the Dominican Republic.

Conservative estimates indicate that roughly 80 percent of the Dominican population is black. This is the result of the African presence at the time of colonization, the migration of black Americans and Caribbean blacks to the Eastern region of the Dominican Republic in the past century. Evidently, a meaningful percentage of the Dominican black population is of Haitian origin.

Are you really Spanish? Doubtfuk!
YTJ from New Jersey

Montclair, NJ

#8 Jun 16, 2006
Truth be told, the problem with many Dominicans is that they do not wish to realize a few things:

1. Yes, most Dominicans are of African descent. The only ones that aren't are the 1 or 2 % that have been racist enough to ensure that no one in their families ever married a dark skinned individual before.

2. Many Haitians hold a grudge against Haitians because Haiti ruled the Dominican Republic for 22 years. But what most Dominicans do not understand is the role Haiti played in ending slavery on Earth! Because Haitians fought and defeated the French Army after a 12-year war (1791-1803), the end of colonialism on Hispaniola, in the Caribbean, and eventually in the entire WORLD was brought about. It is thanks to Haitians that all dark skinned individuals do not have shackles in their feet this very day!!! If anything, all dark skinned persons, including most Dominicans, should learn some Haitian history and thank Haitians for the sacrifice they have made to get them out of slavery. Did you know that more than 50% of the population of Haiti died under swords, bullets and cannons of white French men, fighting to end slavery?! After defeating France, Haiti conquered DR only and I mean ONLY because on the other side of the island, most Dominicans WERE STILL SLAVES of the SPANISH PEOPLE!! And so by taking over the island, Haitians were able, with the help of the Dominican slaves, to kick out the white Spanish slavemasters! Haiti ruled island for 22 years because the Dominican people were not yet capable of defending the island, and to ensure that slavery would never again exist on Hispaniola.

3. Also, realize that while many Dominicans hate Haitians for ruling their country for 22 years, when Dominicans finally kicked Haitians out in 1844, they chose to go back to Spanish rule. Do you know what happened then...?? Spain reinstated slavery in DR!! The very thing that so many Dominincans, alongside Haitians, had given their lives fighting against, was brought back. Surprised anyone? And so, truthfully, Dominicans should really celebrate their victory over Spain.

4. The majority of Dominicans are black. Most of those are poor. The small "white/mulatto" population of DR owns most of the resources. That rich minority has got the entire Dominican population brainwashed into thinking that Haitians are the root of their problems. Get real!! It is the same exact thing here in Haiti: the 5% mulatto/white population holds 70-80% of the resources. The only exception is that Haitians always see through their ruse: they cannot be fooled into thinking that their poor social status is due to black Dominicans or some other reason. That is why Haiti is usually in so much turmoil: Haitians are a very socially and politically conscious group of people. That is why there has been an even distribution of Black and Mulatto presidents in Haiti, as opposed to DR, where most, if not all, of the presidents have been either white or mulatto.

Anyway, just to let you know. I am Haitian. I love my heritage, and I will never give it up for another. I can promise you that one day, Haiti will not in its current situation. I guarantee it. My message to all Dominicans out there is to realize the truth, stop lying to yourselves: you are AFRICAN, and only the REAL truth will set you free. To my Haitian people, we will make our nation a better place. Anything is possible. We proved it once, and we will do it again.

Much love.

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YTJ from New Jersey

Montclair, NJ

#9 Jun 16, 2006
In point #2, there is a small typo. It should read:
"Many Dominicans hold a grudge against Haitians ..."
jimmy jimmy

Rochester, NY

#10 Jun 30, 2006
ytj, you just spoke the flat out truth. as a dominican, this bologna is embarrassing and has gone on for long enough. THE HAITIANS CAME TO HELP US! when they came, MANY dominicans were ecstatic, since the majority were black slaves. the majority of today's dominicans are black, not latino, hispanic or any other fabricated word. the black dominicans even called the struggle against haiti " the revolution of the spaniards". the problem was that the trinitaria movement incorporated a couple of house n****s like sanchez to sell myths to the black public. guys like duarte and the spanish knew that if the dominican people saw a couple of black faces in the movement, they'd be a little more apt to listen. there is also this myth of a color blind nation. please. the black dominican, the extremely dark one, was once the face of the majority and now it's to the point we're if your that color, idiots believe you have to be a haitian descendant, that no one is that black in the dominican republic. guys, get ernesto sagas book " race and politics in the dominican republic ".
fito

Charlotte, NC

#11 Jul 9, 2006
LETS GET TOGETHER and become one island ..stop the hate
ODNEY CIVIL FUTUR PRES

Miami, FL

#12 Jul 11, 2006
IF I TOLD YOU ALL THAT MIGHT READ WHAT I AM GOING TO WRITE. ALTHOUGH MANY PEOPLE THINK HAITI IS POOREST STATE IN THE WESTHERN ATMOSPHERE. I LOVE IT TILL DEATH. WHOEVER COULD SAY WHATEVER YOU FEEL LIKE TO SAY ABOUT HAITI. BUT BEFORE GOING TO ALL DETAIL... PLEASE THANKFUL TO " DESSALLINES, PETION, ETC... TO ALL OF YO... AMERICANS, DOMINICANS, ALL THE WORLD BECAUSE WE FREED BLACK FROM PAIN, SUFFERED AND ALLOW OTHERS TO MAKE BEST PURCHASE EVER... WE ARE POOR, BUT WE HAVE HELD OUR HONOR UNTIL THE END... TO ALL PECARI WHOSE WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT HAITI... TELL HISTORY ABOUT YOUR STATE BEFORE I CAN EVEN HEAR Y'ALL TALKING. HAITIAN ARE GREAT PEOPLE, SMART, SOCIALIZE. WE ARE POOR IT'S JUST A MISUNDERSTAND ABOUT OUR ENEMY. ONE DAY WE WILL FIND OUR ENEMY; EVERYONE WILL SHUT IT..
bondye-

Brantford, Canada

#13 Jul 12, 2006
YTJ is absolutely correct! Thank you.
Jennifer

Washington, DC

#14 Jul 18, 2006
Thanks for your post. I am so intrigued by the Haitian history and culture of resistence.
YTJ from New Jersey wrote:
Truth be told, the problem with many Dominicans is that they do not wish to realize a few things:
1. Yes, most Dominicans are of African descent. The only ones that aren't are the 1 or 2 % that have been racist enough to ensure that no one in their families ever married a dark skinned individual before.
2. Many Haitians hold a grudge against Haitians because Haiti ruled the Dominican Republic for 22 years. But what most Dominicans do not understand is the role Haiti played in ending slavery on Earth! Because Haitians fought and defeated the French Army after a 12-year war (1791-1803), the end of colonialism on Hispaniola, in the Caribbean, and eventually in the entire WORLD was brought about. It is thanks to Haitians that all dark skinned individuals do not have shackles in their feet this very day!!! If anything, all dark skinned persons, including most Dominicans, should learn some Haitian history and thank Haitians for the sacrifice they have made to get them out of slavery. Did you know that more than 50% of the population of Haiti died under swords, bullets and cannons of white French men, fighting to end slavery?! After defeating France, Haiti conquered DR only and I mean ONLY because on the other side of the island, most Dominicans WERE STILL SLAVES of the SPANISH PEOPLE!! And so by taking over the island, Haitians were able, with the help of the Dominican slaves, to kick out the white Spanish slavemasters! Haiti ruled island for 22 years because the Dominican people were not yet capable of defending the island, and to ensure that slavery would never again exist on Hispaniola.
3. Also, realize that while many Dominicans hate Haitians for ruling their country for 22 years, when Dominicans finally kicked Haitians out in 1844, they chose to go back to Spanish rule. Do you know what happened then...?? Spain reinstated slavery in DR!! The very thing that so many Dominincans, alongside Haitians, had given their lives fighting against, was brought back. Surprised anyone? And so, truthfully, Dominicans should really celebrate their victory over Spain.
4. The majority of Dominicans are black. Most of those are poor. The small "white/mulatto" population of DR owns most of the resources. That rich minority has got the entire Dominican population brainwashed into thinking that Haitians are the root of their problems. Get real!! It is the same exact thing here in Haiti: the 5% mulatto/white population holds 70-80% of the resources. The only exception is that Haitians always see through their ruse: they cannot be fooled into thinking that their poor social status is due to black Dominicans or some other reason. That is why Haiti is usually in so much turmoil: Haitians are a very socially and politically conscious group of people. That is why there has been an even distribution of Black and Mulatto presidents in Haiti, as opposed to DR, where most, if not all, of the presidents have been either white or mulatto.
Anyway, just to let you know. I am Haitian. I love my heritage, and I will never give it up for another. I can promise you that one day, Haiti will not in its current situation. I guarantee it. My message to all Dominicans out there is to realize the truth, stop lying to yourselves: you are AFRICAN, and only the REAL truth will set you free. To my Haitian people, we will make our nation a better place. Anything is possible. We proved it once, and we will do it again.
Much love.
AL from NY

Brooklyn, NY

#15 Jul 31, 2006
YTJ from New Jersey wrote:
Truth be told, the problem with many Dominicans is that they do not wish to realize a few things:
1. Yes, most Dominicans are of African descent. The only ones that aren't are the 1 or 2 % that have been racist enough to ensure that no one in their families ever married a dark skinned individual before.
2. Many Haitians hold a grudge against Haitians because Haiti ruled the Dominican Republic for 22 years. But what most Dominicans do not understand is the role Haiti played in ending slavery on Earth! Because Haitians fought and defeated the French Army after a 12-year war (1791-1803), the end of colonialism on Hispaniola, in the Caribbean, and eventually in the entire WORLD was brought about. It is thanks to Haitians that all dark skinned individuals do not have shackles in their feet this very day!!! If anything, all dark skinned persons, including most Dominicans, should learn some Haitian history and thank Haitians for the sacrifice they have made to get them out of slavery. Did you know that more than 50% of the population of Haiti died under swords, bullets and cannons of white French men, fighting to end slavery?! After defeating France, Haiti conquered DR only and I mean ONLY because on the other side of the island, most Dominicans WERE STILL SLAVES of the SPANISH PEOPLE!! And so by taking over the island, Haitians were able, with the help of the Dominican slaves, to kick out the white Spanish slavemasters! Haiti ruled island for 22 years because the Dominican people were not yet capable of defending the island, and to ensure that slavery would never again exist on Hispaniola.
3. Also, realize that while many Dominicans hate Haitians for ruling their country for 22 years, when Dominicans finally kicked Haitians out in 1844, they chose to go back to Spanish rule. Do you know what happened then...?? Spain reinstated slavery in DR!! The very thing that so many Dominincans, alongside Haitians, had given their lives fighting against, was brought back. Surprised anyone? And so, truthfully, Dominicans should really celebrate their victory over Spain.
4. The majority of Dominicans are black. Most of those are poor. The small "white/mulatto" population of DR owns most of the resources. That rich minority has got the entire Dominican population brainwashed into thinking that Haitians are the root of their problems. Get real!! It is the same exact thing here in Haiti: the 5% mulatto/white population holds 70-80% of the resources. The only exception is that Haitians always see through their ruse: they cannot be fooled into thinking that their poor social status is due to black Dominicans or some other reason. That is why Haiti is usually in so much turmoil: Haitians are a very socially and politically conscious group of people. That is why there has been an even distribution of Black and Mulatto presidents in Haiti, as opposed to DR, where most, if not all, of the presidents have been either white or mulatto.
Anyway, just to let you know. I am Haitian. I love my heritage, and I will never give it up for another. I can promise you that one day, Haiti will not in its current situation. I guarantee it. My message to all Dominicans out there is to realize the truth, stop lying to yourselves: you are AFRICAN, and only the REAL truth will set you free. To my Haitian people, we will make our nation a better place. Anything is possible. We proved it once, and we will do it again.
Much love.
Ok I just wanted to add my two-cent.
It is true that Dominicans are a mixes people,
Most of the point being brought up here might be true,
We are really the same people some decide to adopt the French language,
The other decided to adopt the Spanish as they language.
Now my point is this should we just let Haitians to come illegally into our country?
Every country has they Immigration policies why can Dominican Rep enforce theirs.
Zabulon

Cathlamet, WA

#16 Jul 31, 2006
Yes, enforce your borders, but while you do it, don't be hypocrits... Realize that you NEED Haitians:
1) as consumers of your products (8 million potential and actual consumers might I add)
2) as workers, to fill in the need for laborers that your people won't fulfill.
Furthermore, stop burning them , butchering them and treating them like animals.
More importantly, DO NOT FALL into the game that your politicians have been playing for years, making you think and believe that Haitians are the root of every social/economic/financial problem in your country.
Also, every time you defend the day laborers in the USA, think of your own country, and you shall parallel the Haitian situation.
rene

Burlington, Canada

#17 Aug 2, 2006
Zabulon...could not agree with you more!! as usual, well said; Write a book my freind, perhaps will be the first that not only tells the truth but also tells the situation as it really is...
A-Rod

Brooklyn, NY

#18 Aug 2, 2006
Zabulon wrote:
Yes, enforce your borders, but while you do it, don't be hypocrits... Realize that you NEED Haitians:
1) as consumers of your products (8 million potential and actual consumers might I add)
2) as workers, to fill in the need for laborers that your people won't fulfill.
Furthermore, stop burning them , butchering them and treating them like animals.
More importantly, DO NOT FALL into the game that your politicians have been playing for years, making you think and believe that Haitians are the root of every social/economic/financial problem in your country.
Also, every time you defend the day laborers in the USA, think of your own country, and you shall parallel the Haitian situation.
Ok
Here it is, I never said that Haitians are the root of Dominicans problem. I am Dominican my father is black my mother white, I donít have anything against Haitians. Can you explain to me how do we need day laborers in DR when the unemployment rates is like 48% that means that only 52% of the working population can get a job.
Now my question is how does DR need day laborers when DR donít even produce enough job for Dominicans. You sound like a smart person why do you think we should do?
8 million, what every body in Haiti get they product from DR come on be for real.
PS I donít agree with treating humans like animals.
Yes some Dominican doesnít like Haitians, like wise some Haitians donít like Dominicans. And yes some of the come across the border to commit crimes in DR. They are many Haitians living in Dominican legally, working and living they life in peace. Dominican politicians play the same games that all politicians play around the world, that include Haitians politician, and furthermore, nobody should be defending people that breakers the law of a country.
marco

San Salvador, El Salvador

#19 Aug 2, 2006
NOW, IT'S TIME TO DR AND HAITIANS PEOPLE TO LIVE LIKE CIVILIZED PEOPLE. I'M PROUD TO BE HATIAN. HAITI IS A GREAT NATION. HAITI IS ONE OF THE MOST MARVELOUS COUNTRY. IT'S THE MOMENT FOR ALL HAITIAN TO BE UNITED, HELPING EACH OTHER. IT'S THE KEY TO DEFEAT THE ENEMY.
rene

Burlington, Canada

#20 Aug 2, 2006
A-Rod..You sound like a very level headed person and was happy to read that "you do not have anything against Haitian People" If more people would have the same way of thinking as you do ! it would be a better world. I would like to answer some of your questions or comments; Why should or why does DR. allow haitian day labours! "Keep in mind that for years Dr. has used haitians in theire sugar cane fields and why!! because they would never be able to exploid the Dr. people the way they exploid the haitians, for example; paying them $1-us for a 13 hour day, not even letting them get proper medical care when needed, making them live in very bad conditions on the farms, paying a haitian house keeper the fraction that you would have to pay a Dr. person, not counting long hours and at times if lucky! 6 hours off a week. So you see my dear A-Rod, modern slavery. Now!! If things are so bad! why do the haitians keep going to Dr. to work, you ask! millions of haitians are very poor and the only thing they have is; the love and respect they have for theire family. The haitian father or mother being used as a modern slave means, feeding theire children back home. "We have alot to learn from them and they should have our respect. Many haitians go to Dr. to commit crimes, you say! Well my dear A-Rod...many people come from all over the world to settle in Canada and do the same, live a life here of crime. However! We cannot turn our backs on the rest that come to find a better life for theire loved ones. We cannot judge all Dr. people, because of a few that are commiting crimes(for example). You mentioned that some Dr. do not like haitians and some haitians do not like Dr, well A-Rod, its theire lost. If they had your attidude, perhaps they would make great freinds on either side." As a closing note! I remember the better days in haiti, when bus loads of Dr.Prostitudes would come to haiti to make money, so you see my dear A-Rod, sometimes life takes you were you can find a living. " Today haitians are pouring into Dr. to find a better life! Tomorrow, maybe the Dr. may have to pour into haiti for the same reasons, either way! I am sure that it is of no fault to them, I am sure that if there was work or a way to feed the children, that the haitians people would rather stay home in haiti and the Dr.people in Dr. "I think the answer is; to try and give everyone a chance to life and as you said; "you do not have anything against the haitian people! Its a great start, "congratulation my freind"
rene

Burlington, Canada

#21 Aug 2, 2006
Marco....Well said,..for years haiti has looked for the right person (President) that can return the magic that haiti once had, the magic* that made you fall in love with the haitian people the first time you arrived in haiti. The magic* that you saw every time someone said; bonjour!. The magic* that made you want to come back to haiti, even while sitting in a plane waiting for take off back to your country. There is "NO" right person, to bring haiti back the way it once was, The name "Haiti Cherie" was not created by one person, it took 8 million great haitians to make it that way and will take the same amount, to bring it back home...

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