Christina Milan admits she is black so why can't Dominicans?

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I have never seen anybody more racist that this clown, its the year 2012 and he wants to divide the world in Black and white. who the hell is denying the black heritage in DR??.. its all over us, our look, food, music,culture, customs, but he still can't understand that in Latin America, doesn't matter if you are black, white, mulatto, Indian, Arab, Asian, and any mix, you are a Latin American ABOVE ALL...In our case , Dominican. In Cuba more than 1/2 the Island is black or mulatto, and Cubans call themselves CUBANS...that's all....Not African Cubans and whites.We are not just a color like in the US.
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chitowndj38 wrote:
Funny you say that because Black latinos are discriminated by white latinos everyday but let you tell it LATIN AMERICA does not focus on race!!!!! LOL!!!! You are a joke!!!!!
Yea but we didnt have Segregation LAWS in DR, we dont have the KKK we dont have Skinheads. To be Dominican is not a race its a nationality we have blacks and we never denied it within Latin America. We just dont want to be assaciated with you hypocritical Afro centric coons in america, who by the way get no respect from the REAL Africans
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Feb 21, 2012
 
well said FEB27...
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Feb 21, 2012
 
chitowndj38 wrote:
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Why would we care about getting respect from any of you foreigners. We are light years ahead of you in accomplishment and inventions. That very same civil rights you speak of....you are benefiting from it. With the way black hispanics are discriminated against in Latin America...you dont need the KKK. You Platanos are real racist.
That is what you are perceiving and that is exactly why i can tell you ARENT dominican. tell me of a group of white dominicans who got together chased black people and hung them? NEVER but the HAITIANS however did do that to the white dominicans. Why dont you read about the Haitian invasion of Santo Domingo? And how many Haitians slaughtered and raped in my country. If a Dominican hates a Hatian believe me they actuall have a reason behind it
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chitowndj38 wrote:
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White hispanics had it coming in your country. They were promoting slavery...so who cares. You guys were too busy trying to be like Massa!!!!!
You are all over the place with your arguements lol slavery got abolished anyway, Haiti was pointless. Thats why they are so miserable, Haitians are dying to be Dominican now smh. Its kinda sad but hey what can you do, the past is the past and its all over with now. I wish the Haitians could get that message with their hawty French asses

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Joel wrote:
I have never seen anybody more racist that this clown, its the year 2012 and he wants to divide the world in Black and white. who the hell is denying the black heritage in DR??.. its all over us, our look, food, music,culture, customs, but he still can't understand that in Latin America, doesn't matter if you are black, white, mulatto, Indian, Arab, Asian, and any mix, you are a Latin American ABOVE ALL...In our case , Dominican. In Cuba more than 1/2 the Island is black or mulatto, and Cubans call themselves CUBANS...that's all....Not African Cubans and whites.We are not just a color like in the US.
i have to agree with chitown. the mentality is real messed up. dominicans like all afro-latinos are just 'black' in america. but theres a great deal of disrespect for aa, it seems because aa who are also mostly mixed, put their 'blacness' first. where as afro-latinos like all latinos closely identify with their spanish heritage.

afro-latinos and dark mestizos are treated like crap in their latin american countries, by white latinos. but when they come here and enjoy freedoms that they would never experience back home, they get all racist with aa, who are the ones who fought and changed the racist laws and culture of america that allowed *you* to even immigrate here.
it's like afro-latinos suffer from the ultimate form of white washing.
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Mar 15, 2012
 
That's were the problem start.. For Americans anybody with 10% black heritage is black, and there is no such thing as mulattos. In Latin America mixed people are Mulattos, not whites and not black, its a different ethic group, but here in the US, blacks and white will not accept that and try to ridicule anybody that think otherwise. we live in a planet that is getting " smaller" with all the technologies and migrations , we need to start respecting other people point of views on race relationships, in L.America nationality come way before color of the skin.
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chitowndj38 wrote:
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You have been brainwashed!!!!! Into thinking you are something that you are not.
.....Your level of insecurity and racism is amazing, You are nothing but a stubborn racist kid, I wonder how you are going to survive in a country well there are more than 300,000,000 whites..lol and your plans of recruiting more " Blacks" in L.America is not working, all we see is a black racist bitching, crying , complaining , and none of us Latinos cares!!!..sorry to tell you but the glory days of the civil right movement in the US are gone, so grow up, go get a job, go to an ebonic forum , and plan taking over the world or something and leave Dominicans alone, we are just happy to be mixed with African and Spanish heritage and of course we don't hate whites like you do....
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i have to agree with chitown. the mentality is real messed up. dominicans like all afro-latinos are just 'black' in america. but theres a great deal of disrespect for aa, it seems because aa who are also mostly mixed, put their 'blacness' first. where as afro-latinos like all latinos closely identify with their spanish heritage.
afro-latinos and dark mestizos are treated like crap in their latin american countries, by white latinos. but when they come here and enjoy freedoms that they would never experience back home, they get all racist with aa, who are the ones who fought and changed the racist laws and culture of america that allowed *you* to even immigrate here.
it's like afro-latinos suffer from the ultimate form of white washing.
Your perceptions of a mixed African American is having a single great grandparent of White or Native American ancestry, that's not the case for most Hispanics. Many Dominicans and others Hispanics have been racially as mixing for many generations. Only 10% of African Americans have about 20% of another racial group in their heritage. Most African Americans aren't close to being as mixed as most Dominicans and other Hispanics, so stop claiming to be because it's a weak argument. The rest of your argument isn't even worth elaborating on.
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So now you're basing Cuba's racial perspective on Christina Milan's sole opinion? In that case, Zoe Saldana has previously said that she sees herself as a woman of African Descent. There, now you can die happy.

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Your perceptions of a mixed African American is having a single great grandparent of White or Native American ancestry, that's not the case for most Hispanics. Many Dominicans and others Hispanics have been racially as mixing for many generations. Only 10% of African Americans have about 20% of another racial group in their heritage. Most African Americans aren't close to being as mixed as most Dominicans and other Hispanics, so stop claiming to be because it's a weak argument. The rest of your argument isn't even worth elaborating on.
i don't know where you got your admixture numbers from, remember we talking about aa, not haitian or jamaican or african immigrants.
the average non-black admixture for the entire aa population is 22%. i don't know what it is for dominicans, but dominicans on average are more mixed than aa. not enough to escapte the 'black label'(like say mexicans who are on average bout 7% african) which is my point.
dominicans are black in america dude. i know this is enough to make your head explode. but in america during the jim crow years, this confusion would be straightened out for you real fast.
the only reason why there are so many dominicans in the country, today, is because of the 1965 immigration law which was part of the suite of civil rights legislation. without that you'd still be in the dominican republic looking at an american immigration form that read 'no blacks allowed'.
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This is not about DOMINICANS DENYING OUR HERITAGE..This is about a group of Racist trying to change our point of views on race relationship for their own, one way or the other....They refuse to accept that Mulattos are seen as a different ethnic group in the latin world,..they want mulattos to say..WE ARE BLACKS...
Its America Colonialism of ideas, exporting their ways or the highway, Using people like Prof Gate to humiliate anybody in Latin America that is Mulatto and doesn't call him self black, just because in " America that person is black"...
But hey that silly point of view only work on insecure uneducated folks... We know who we are and we love it... If the black in this forum that are HATING on Dominicans just for getting along with Spain and other whites can't deal with it..ohhh well too bad.

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Joel wrote:
This is not about DOMINICANS DENYING OUR HERITAGE..This is about a group of Racist trying to change our point of views on race relationship for their own, one way or the other....They refuse to accept that Mulattos are seen as a different ethnic group in the latin world,..they want mulattos to say..WE ARE BLACKS...
Its America Colonialism of ideas, exporting their ways or the highway, Using people like Prof Gate to humiliate anybody in Latin America that is Mulatto and doesn't call him self black, just because in " America that person is black"...
But hey that silly point of view only work on insecure uneducated folks... We know who we are and we love it... If the black in this forum that are HATING on Dominicans just for getting along with Spain and other whites can't deal with it..ohhh well too bad.
get along with spain and other whites. i would say aa get along with whites a lot better than dominicans. but the difference is that aa aren't trying to be white. whereas dominicans idolize whiteness and hate the black blood running through their veins. that's the dividing point.
you might deny it, but the history speaks for itself. the dominican republic had an open immigration policy for any european for the simple purpose of whitening up their society. do you have any idea of what spaniards and other euros thing of dominicans and other afro-latinos?

but i will say that aa go way to far in the other direction. like halle berry claiming that her daughter is 'black'. if you're mixed you're mixed. but black in america is really more about culture and identity anyway, and less bout pure race.
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i don't know where you got your admixture numbers from, remember we talking about aa, not haitian or jamaican or african immigrants.
the average non-black admixture for the entire aa population is 22%. i don't know what it is for dominicans, but dominicans on average are more mixed than aa. not enough to escapte the 'black label'(like say mexicans who are on average bout 7% african) which is my point.
dominicans are black in america dude. i know this is enough to make your head explode. but in america during the jim crow years, this confusion would be straightened out for you real fast.
the only reason why there are so many dominicans in the country, today, is because of the 1965 immigration law which was part of the suite of civil rights legislation. without that you'd still be in the dominican republic looking at an american immigration form that read 'no blacks allowed'.
So most of these Dominicans would be considered black in the U.S.? Growing up in the United States myself, I know that's not true.

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you don't have to be very black in america, to be considered black. all you need is *some* african blood, and self-identify as black/aa.

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chitowndj38 wrote:
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Sal is a sellout!!!! A sellout to his own people!!!!
any dominican who's very black is really haitian, while euros who showed up not that long ago, is a true dominican... well it's none of my business how other people want to define their world. it's just sad to see people all up the whiteman's arse like this.
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any dominican who's very black is really haitian, while euros who showed up not that long ago, is a true dominican... well it's none of my business how other people want to define their world. it's just sad to see people all up the whiteman's arse like this.
And here I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but it turns out you're no different from chitowndj38. Most of our European ancestry can be traced back to the Dominican Republic's colonial era, much like our African and Taino ancestry. You seem confused, it's not that we Hispanics are kissing the White man's ass. It's that we choose not to live by your White slave master's racist dogma that was designed to oppress you.

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And here I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but it turns out you're no different from chitowndj38. Most of our European ancestry can be traced back to the Dominican Republic's colonial era, much like our African and Taino ancestry. You seem confused, it's not that we Hispanics are kissing the White man's ass. It's that we choose not to live by your White slave master's racist dogma that was designed to oppress you.
dude the point is dominicans range from white to very black, but being around a lot of dominicans you hear dominicans tell you that dark dominicans are really haitians. and they're quick to do what some of you did on this thread and show you white and very light skinned dominicans claiming these are your typical dominicans. i live in the 3rd largest dominican community in the country, i know what typical dominicans look like. they look like me cuz most dominicans think i'm dominican.


"Although Trujillo sought to emulate Generalissimo Francisco Franco, he welcomed Spanish Republican refugees following the Spanish Civil War. During the Holocaust in the Second World War, the Dominican Republic took in many Jews fleeing Hitler who had been refused entry by other countries. The Jews settled in Sosua. These decisions arose from a policy of blanquismo, closely connected with anti-Haitian xenophobia, which sought to add more whites to the Dominican population by promoting immigration from Europe"
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chitowndj38 wrote:
Here are some more images of them dancing that stupic ass Dem Bow dance that they do over ther in the D.R. trying to emulate Black Americans dancing except for Black Americans dance a lot better!!!!!! This is very sloppy LOL!!
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At least you're actually trying to use sources this time around, this is an improvement.
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The typical; Dominican is not light skin tone but more so brown or what you guys call it morena to negate the fact of their african roots. My woman is morena like most people who live in Santo Dom.
"Moreno" is used to negate African roots? What about African Americans who use the terms "Yellow Bone" and "Red Bone" on each other to describe their skin tones? Are they trying to negate their African roots as well? Of course your "woman" is black, because you're black too! Your right hand is not considered a woman, silly.

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