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5. Soon wilt thou see, and they will see,
6. Which of you is afflicted with madness.
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Muhammad's first Public Call to Islam:
They offered him riches; kingdom over Mecca, anything that he desired if would cease preaching his message, the message of the prophets, the message of "Hear O People, the Lord Our God is ONE Lord". It is this phrase, La ilaha ill Allah, There is no deity, nothing worthy of worship, serving of obeying, except Allah/God, and that He is alone without any partner or associate that caused so much enmity and persecution for the early Muslims in Mecca. And this message was the very same message that all the previous prophet taught, such as Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, and Jesus (peace be upon them all)-[more on Jesus]
So you have Muhammad (pbuh) leading a normal life for the first forty years and then all of a sudden he become a political leader, military leader, religions leader, head of a large household, lawmaker, teacher, Imam, and go on, and on, and on, in the list of things that Muhammad (pbuh) used to do. All of that was done in 23 years. How could this be? Which leads me to my next point. Muhammad (pbuh) is considered to be to Muslims the Greatest human being who ever lived. And whatever benchmark you want to use for greatness he will still come out the greatest.
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here are some examples: HE WILL BE BETRAYED FOR 30 PIECES OF SILVER -PROPHECY:“Then I said to them,‘If it is agreeable to you, give me my wages. And if not, refrain.’ So they weighed out for my wages thirty pieces of silver.” Zechariah 11:12 -FULFILLMENT:“What are you willing to give me if I deliver Him to you? And they counted out thirty pieces of silver.” Matthew 26:15 HE WAS TO ENTER JERUSALEM ON A DONKEY -PROPHECY:“Behold, your King is coming to you. He is just and having salvation, humble, lowly, and riding on a donkey, a colt, the foal of a donkey.” Zechariah 9:9 -FULFILLMENT:“And they brought him to Jesus. And they threw their own clothes on the colt, and they set Jesus on him.” Luke 19:35 HE WILL HEAL THE SICK -PROPHECY:“Then the eyes of the blind will be opened and the ears of the deaf will be unstopped. Then the lame will leap like a deer and the tongue of the dumb will sing for joy.” Isaiah 35:5-6 -FULFILLMENT:“The blind receive sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy are cured, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, and the good news is preached to the poor.” Matthew 11:5 THE SILVER WILL BE THROWN INTO THE TEMPLE FOR THE POTTER’S FIELD -PROPHECY:“So I took the thirty pieces of silver and threw them into the house of the Lord for the potter.” Zechariah 11:13 -FULFILLMENT:“Then he threw down the pieces of silver in the temple and departed. And they consulted together and bought with them the potter’s field, to bury strangers in.” Matthew 27:5,7 HE WOULD BE CURSED FOR HANGING ON A TREE -PROPHECY: "You must not leave His body on the tree overnight. Be sure to bury Him that same day because anyone who is hung on a tree is under God's curse." Deuteronomy 21:23 -FULFILLMENT: "Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: 'Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree.'" Galatians 3:13 Hardhead wrote: 34:10
It did fit Prophet Muhammad(saw),but Jesus did not qualify,since you Christians consider him as god.
Reread 34:10 may this is the first time you see this verse,I don't blame you as you don't know all your bible.
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Good efforts but,don't support the Jesus divinity. St James teaching does agree with Islam teaching. All these write ups of yours are fake and it was scribes addition to the teaching of Jesus. Jan wrote: here are some examples:
HE WILL BE BETRAYED FOR 30 PIECES OF SILVER
-PROPHECY:“Then I said to them,‘If it is agreeable to you, give me my wages. And if not, refrain.’ So they
weighed out for my wages thirty pieces of silver.” Zechariah 11:12
-FULFILLMENT:“What are you willing to give me if I deliver Him to you? And they counted out thirty pieces of
silver.” Matthew 26:15
HE WAS TO ENTER JERUSALEM ON A DONKEY
-PROPHECY:“Behold, your King is coming to you. He is just and having salvation, humble, lowly, and riding on a
donkey, a colt, the foal of a donkey.” Zechariah 9:9
-FULFILLMENT:“And they brought him to Jesus. And they threw their own clothes on the colt, and they set Jesus
on him.” Luke 19:35
HE WILL HEAL THE SICK
-PROPHECY:“Then the eyes of the blind will be opened and the ears of the deaf will be unstopped. Then the lame
will leap like a deer and the tongue of the dumb will sing for joy.” Isaiah 35:5-6
-FULFILLMENT:“The blind receive sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy are cured, the deaf hear, the
dead are raised, and the good news is preached to the poor.” Matthew 11:5
THE SILVER WILL BE THROWN INTO THE TEMPLE FOR THE POTTER’S FIELD
-PROPHECY:“So I took the thirty pieces of silver and threw them into the house of the Lord for the potter.”
Zechariah 11:13
-FULFILLMENT:“Then he threw down the pieces of silver in the temple and departed. And they consulted
together and bought with them the potter’s field, to bury strangers in.” Matthew 27:5,7
HE WOULD BE CURSED FOR HANGING ON A TREE
-PROPHECY: "You must not leave His body on the tree overnight. Be sure to bury Him that same day because
anyone who is hung on a tree is under God's curse." Deuteronomy 21:23
-FULFILLMENT: "Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written:
'Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree.'" Galatians 3:13
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Muhammad's first Public Call to Islam:
They offered him riches; kingdom over Mecca, anything that he desired if would cease preaching his message, the message of the prophets, the message of "Hear O People, the Lord Our God is ONE Lord". It is this phrase, La ilaha ill Allah, There is no deity, nothing worthy of worship, serving of obeying, except Allah/God, and that He is alone without any partner or associate that caused so much enmity and persecution for the early Muslims in Mecca. And this message was the very same message that all the previous prophet taught, such as Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, and Jesus (peace be upon them all)-[more on Jesus]
So you have Muhammad (pbuh) leading a normal life for the first forty years and then all of a sudden he become a political leader, military leader, religions leader, head of a large household, lawmaker, teacher, Imam, and go on, and on, and on, in the list of things that Muhammad (pbuh) used to do. All of that was done in 23 years. How could this be? Which leads me to my next point. Muhammad (pbuh) is considered to be to Muslims the Greatest human being who ever lived. And whatever benchmark you want to use for greatness he will still come out the greatest.
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Jan
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Umm, didn't Muhamamd eventually end up fighting Mecca and controlling Mecca anyways? Hardhead wrote: Muhammad's first Public Call to Islam:
They offered him riches; kingdom over Mecca,.
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33.40. Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Messenger of Allah, and the Seal of the Prophets: and Allah has full knowledge of all things. Jan wrote: Umm, didn't Muhamamd eventually end up fighting Mecca and controlling Mecca anyways?
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Mecca is for Muslims only not for Pagans and their alike. Jan wrote: Umm, didn't Muhamamd eventually end up fighting Mecca and controlling Mecca anyways?
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Sanctioned rape of Iranian virgins before their execution:
An unnamed member of Iran's paramilitary Basij, currently married with children, explained to a Jerusalem Post reporter that he joined the Basij at 16 years when his mother took him "to a Basiji station and begged them to take me under their wing because I had no one and nothing foreseeable in my future. My father was martyred during the war in Iraq and she did not want me to get hooked on drugs and become a street thug. I had no choice." Then came a description of his role raping young girls:
He said he had been a highly regarded member of the force, and had so "impressed my superiors" that, at 18, "I was given the 'honor' to temporarily marry young girls before they were sentenced to death." In the Islamic Republic it is illegal to execute a young woman, regardless of her crime, if she is a virgin, he explained. Therefore a "wedding" ceremony is conducted the night before the execution: The young girl is forced to have sexual intercourse with a prison guard - essentially raped by her "husband."
"I regret that, even though the marriages were legal," he said. Why the regret, if the marriages were "legal?"
"Because," he went on, "I could tell that the girls were more afraid of their 'wedding' night than of the execution that awaited them in the morning. And they would always fight back, so we would have to put sleeping pills in their food. By morning the girls would have an empty expression; it seemed like they were ready or wanted to die. I remember hearing them cry and scream after [the rape] was over," he said. "I will never forget how this one girl clawed at her own face and neck with her finger nails afterwards. She had deep scratches all over her."
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President Bush's reference to a "crusade" against terrorism, which passed almost unnoticed by Americans, rang alarm bells in Europe. It raised fears that the terrorist attacks could spark a 'clash of civilizations' between Christians and Muslims, sowing fresh winds of hatred and mistrust. "We have to avoid a clash of civilizations at all costs," French foreign minister Hubert Vedrine said on Sunday. "One has to avoid falling into this huge trap, this monstrous trap" which he said had been "conceived by the instigators of the assault." On Sunday, Bush warned Americans that "this crusade, this war on terrorism, is going to take awhile." He and other US officials have said that renegade Islamic fundamentalist Osama bin Laden is the most likely suspect in the attacks. His use of the word "crusade," said Soheib Bensheikh, Grand Mufti of the mosque in Marseille, France, "was most unfortunate", "It recalled the barbarous and unjust military operations against the Muslim world," by Christian knights, who launched repeated attempts to capture Jerusalem over the course of several hundred years. Bush sought to calm American Muslims' fears of a backlash against them on Monday by appearing at an Islamic center in Washington. There he assured Americans that "the face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That's not what Islam is all about." But his earlier comments, declaring a war between good and evil, shocked Europeans. "If this 'war' takes a form that affronts moderate Arab opinion, if it has the air of a clash of civilizations, there is a strong risk that it will contribute to Osama bin Laden's goal: a conflict between the Arab-Muslim world and the West," warned the Paris daily Le Monde on Tuesday in an editorial. "Bush is walking a fine line," suggested Dominique Moisi, a political analyst with the French Institute for International Relations, the country's top foreign policy think tank. "The same black and white language he uses to rally Americans behind him is just the sort of language that risks splitting the international coalition he is trying to build. http://www.csmonitor.com/2001/0919/p12s2-woeu...
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FYI: If you have not noticed yet in the USA Bush is no longer president, the American voted in a Senator named Barack Obama and he was confirmed president on Jan 21, 2009 Hardhead wrote: President Bush's reference to a "crusade" c
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FYI: I know this but Bush was the one who created all this mess,which Obama inhirited it. Bush still remembers the Crusaders wars and considers his fight is a religious one. Jan wrote: FYI: If you have not noticed yet in the USA Bush is no longer president, the American voted in a Senator named Barack Obama and he was confirmed president on Jan 21, 2009
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No the idiots that ran jetliners into NYC office building are what caused the mess. You conveniently never mention them. Hardhead wrote: FYI: I know this but Bush was the one who created all this mess,which Obama inhirited it. Bush still remembers the Crusaders wars and considers his fight is a religious one.
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Yes,you're right they share some blame,but this was planned years ago,might be in 1991 to overthrow governments in Afghanstan and Iraq. Bush and his Christian governments are very responsible for all this mess,as Bush said it's a Crusade war and you clapped for him as it touched your desires to kill innocent muslims whereever they're. How many innocent people were killed since then against claimed 3000 in the towwers. be reasonable man. Jan wrote: No the idiots that ran jetliners into NYC office building are what caused the mess. You conveniently never mention them.
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First you have to believe if their goal is to kill innocent, would they leave if the country was stable and the "elected" government by the people allowed to freely operate over a radical group whom chosen to force their ideology on the people. Saudi Arabia has an interest in stability int he region as Saddam could control Saudi oil today had the evil USA not freed Kuwait. In 1991 there could be some people upset, but why Al Queda sadly USA funded the guy to fight the soviets, I understand what you are saying but not sure to the what conclusion you would be suggesting??? Hardhead wrote: Yes,you're right they share some blame,but this was planned years ago,might be in 1991 to overthrow governments in Afghanstan and Iraq. Bush and his Christian governments are very responsible for all this mess,as Bush said it's a Crusade war and you clapped for him as it touched your desires to kill innocent muslims whereever they're. How many innocent people were killed since then against claimed 3000 in the towwers. be reasonable man.
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It's a dirty tricks used by Bush and his allies against Muslims as they wanted to eridicate all Muslims from this planet under any pretext. Why did you topple Iraq Government?? Jan wrote: First you have to believe if their goal is to kill innocent, would they leave if the country was stable and the "elected" government by the people allowed to freely operate over a radical group whom chosen to force their ideology on the people.
Saudi Arabia has an interest in stability int he region as Saddam could control Saudi oil today had the evil USA not freed Kuwait.
In 1991 there could be some people upset, but why Al Queda sadly USA funded the guy to fight the soviets, I understand what you are saying but not sure to the what conclusion you would be suggesting???
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Written by an ex-Christian
He fulfilled his mission not through any wordly lure, oppression or tyranny, but by his captivating manners, his endearing moral personality and his convincing teaching. With his noble and gentle behaviour he befriended even his enemies. He won the hearts of the people with his love.
When he began preaching, the ignorant nation turned against him. Abuses and stones were showered at his august person. Every conceivable torture and cruelty was perpetrated on him. This continued not for a day or two but uninterruptedly for thirteen long troublesome years. At last he is exiled. But he is not given respite even there. He is tormented in various ways in his abode of refuge. The whole of Arabia is incited against him. He is persecuted and hounded down continuously for full eight years there. He suffered it all, but he did not budge an inch from the stand he had taken. He was resolute, firm and inflexible in his purpose and stand. His nation offered to accept him as its king and to lay all the riches of the land at his feet if only he would leave preaching his religion and spreading his message. But he chose to refuse the tempting offers and to suffer for his cause, instead. Why? Why was it that he cared not a jot for riches and luxury, kingship and glory and ease and plenty? One has to ponder over it deeply to find an answer.
Can any one imagine a higher example of self sacrifice, fellow-feeling and kind heartedness towards his fellow beings than that a man ruin his own happiness for the good of others, while those very people for whose betterment he is striving his utmost should stone him, abuse him, banish him and give him no quarter even in his exile, and that inspite of it all, he should refuse to abstain from striving for their well-being?
Can any sincere person undergo so much suffering for a false cause? Can any dishonest speculator and visionary exhibit such firmness and determination for his ideal as to stick to his guns to the very last and remain unruffled and unperturbed in the face of dangers and tortures of every conceivable description when a whole country rises up in arms against him?
This faith, this perseverance and this resolution with which he led his movement to ultimate success is, therefore, an eloquent proof of the supreme truth of his cause. Had there been the slightest touch of doubt and uncertainty in his heart, he could never have been able to brave the storm which continued in all its fury for twenty one long years. What more proof of perfect honesty of purpose, uprightness of character and sublimity of soul can there be? Who else can be a more truthful person than he who received such unique gifts and embellishment through a secret channel and still he outrightly pointed out the source of all his enlightenment and inspiration?
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I find it odd when Muslims mention stores of "EX-CHRISTIANS" there is seldom a name or any details of the alleged person (EX-Christian). Why is that? On the other hand when mentioning Ex-Muslims whom speak negative about Islam, the names are always used. Hardhead wrote: Written by an ex-Christian
He fulfilled his mission not through any wordly lure, oppression or tyranny, but by his captivating manners, his endearing moral
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Mentioning his name or not, doesn't change his feeling that Islam is the true religion.. if mentioning his/her name will make you at ease with yourself,then no problem.but I will continue posting ex-christians with no name. If you believe what I post it's fine otherwise ignore it. I don't post lies,period. Jan wrote: I find it odd when Muslims mention stores of "EX-CHRISTIANS" there is seldom a name or any details of the alleged person (EX-Christian). Why is that?
On the other hand when mentioning Ex-Muslims whom speak negative about Islam, the names are always used.
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