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Hardhead
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It'sn't strange from you as your christian coalition forces(more than 42 countries), are killing the innocent people in Afghanstan and in Iraq by the second. So, christains are last people to talk about peace. Jan wrote: Sunshine's post make a very strong statement, there is validity to what that person said. Your correct Islamic radicals do not have the same goal, but what is concerning is how easily and often Islam is mis-interpreted (as some would day) then uses a justification to commit crimes. Religion is powerful and can be dangerous. I will mention the names again, Heavens Gate, Jonestown, Branch Dividians to name a few. Look how distorted religion can get out of control and cause the simply human followers to act even drink poison or try to catch a spaceship, just crazy. The question is does the Islamic text have verses that could lead to one wanted to commit a terrorist act? Tabari VII:97 "The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared,'Kill any Jew who falls under your power. Bukhari:V5B59N512 "The Prophet had their men killed, their woman and children taken captive." Tabari VIII:181 "The Messenger ordered six men and four women to be assassinated. One of these women was Hind, who swore allegiance and became a Muslim. Qur'an:8:12 "I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle. These are just a few verses upon hundreds, Al Queda can take these verses teach them to the Muslim teenager and bingo you have a radicalized suicide bomber, it is that easy! I know the argument is the Old Testament also has some verses to kill, the difference is Moses or Jesus never killed or fought in multiple wars. Moses once killed one Egyptian man whom was torturing a Jewish man, besides that there were totally peaceful. Islam has a prophet whom was in numerous battles, over 26 and this is suppose to be their prophet. Do understand 26 battles is more than most considered warlords were involved in, it is a considerable amount! Why does Radical Islam exist, we need to ask our-self that question <quoted text>
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Jan
Temecula, CA
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Sad isn't it, I find war to be sick, pathetic and against the will of God. God does not want war, he creates us, life is a test and when one enters battle they have failed as they allowed hatred to enter their hearts. For each time one enters battle Satan gains more power on our planet. May God have mercy on us and forgive those involved in these sinful ways of mankind both Islamic and Christian. Hardhead wrote: It'sn't strange from you as your christian coalition forces(more than 42 countries), are killing the innocent people in Afghanstan and in Iraq by the second. So, christains are last people to talk about peace. <quoted text>
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Hardhead
Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
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This never ever free you from the responsibilty of the killing of innocent people based on the bible teaching. THE BIBLE HAS BEEN TAMPERED WITH The religious leaders of Christianity have mixed up the Truth of the Bible (with falsehood) so much that they admit someone has tampered with the book. The Bible now teaches both against evil-as weel as for evil. For instance, it says that we should not drink strong drinks; wine is prohibited in some places and in other places it says that it is good for us. Jan wrote: Sad isn't it, I find war to be sick, pathetic and against the will of God. God does not want war, he creates us, life is a test and when one enters battle they have failed as they allowed hatred to enter their hearts. For each time one enters battle Satan gains more power on our planet. May God have mercy on us and forgive those involved in these sinful ways of mankind both Islamic and Christian. <quoted text>
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Jan
Temecula, CA
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The fact remains, Jesus killed no one, harmed no one actually healed people. Muhamamd fought in 26 battles killed many people! Let actions speak louder that words! Hardhead wrote: This never ever free you from the responsibilty of the killing of innocent people based on the bible teaching. <quoted text>
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Mea
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Hey Jan here is something for you to spend time with on the lonely evenings in the monastery :-)))) http://www.galaxyzoo.org
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Jan
Temecula, CA
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Great, thanks. Me and the other monks thank you in advance! Mea wrote: Hey Jan here is something for you to spend time with on the lonely evenings in the monastery :-)))) http://www.galaxyzoo.org
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Hardhead
Saudi Arabia
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That's a good sign of confession,and could change your direction from extreme left to the right path. Jan wrote: Great, thanks. Me and the other monks thank you in advance! <quoted text>
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Jan
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OK hardhead, no surprise you follow Muhamamd and his death cult, your so gullible you can longer tell the difference between a joke and truth. Hardhead wrote: That's a good sign of confession,and could change your direction from extreme left to the right path. <quoted text>
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Hardhead
Sayhat, Saudi Arabia
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By the way,you forget to talk about your demon possessed artifacts and prophecies tha never true,you fabricate these prophecies to fit your agenda to bash Islam,but never deceive we muslims,we know our way and marching to it. Keep yourself in blind faith.. Jan wrote: OK hardhead, no surprise you follow Muhamamd and his death cult, your so gullible you can longer tell the difference between a joke and truth. <quoted text>
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Jan
Temecula, CA
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Call them what you wants, Muhamamd said the Bible is the word of God, we have Artefactual proof the words in the Bible of 90Ad are the same as today. Have you heard of the Orthodox Christian Church? They were started in 33AD in Jerusalem, what is most surprising is they do and follow the same rituals and Bible as then. There is writing of the old Priest than confirm this. You have to deny artefactual evidence to believe in Islam, simple fact! Hardhead wrote: By the way,you forget to talk about your demon possessed artifacts and prophecies tha never true,you fabricate these prophecies to fit your agenda to bash Islam,but never deceive we muslims,we know our way and marching to it. Keep yourself in blind faith.. <quoted text>
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Hardhead
Sayhat, Saudi Arabia
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This doesn't mean that the bible is uncorrupted,as you're comparing wrong records to the same ones. The Original books that were sent down to the prophets/messangers of Allah are the corect ones, but after man tampared with them,they're are no longer uncorrupted. Jan wrote: Call them what you wants, Muhamamd said the Bible is the word of God, we have Artefactual proof the words in the Bible of 90Ad are the same as today. Have you heard of the Orthodox Christian Church? They were started in 33AD in Jerusalem, what is most surprising is they do and follow the same rituals and Bible as then. There is writing of the old Priest than confirm this. You have to deny artefactual evidence to believe in Islam, simple fact! <quoted text>
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Jan
Temecula, CA
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Wrong hardhead, you have to accept the fact, the corruption claim is lie. You cannot continue to follow Islam blindly, if your knowing of truth and you still follow, so be it. But at least now you been told the truth, it is up to you to look into it further for yourself and make a decision. Hardhead wrote: This doesn't mean that the bible is uncorrupted,as you're comparing wrong records to the same ones. The Original books that were sent down to the prophets/messangers of Allah are the corect ones, but after man tampared with them,they're are no longer uncorrupted. <quoted text>
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Hardhead
Sayhat, Saudi Arabia
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I'm not trying to belittle your books,but seeking the truth whereever I can find it. Indeed, there are a lot of differences and discrepancies in the four Gospels. Luke himself, for example, stated in the introduction of his Gospel that he was just writing a story like many others who wrote about the life of Jesus. He never said that what he introduced to the Christians was divine or was exactly the same words uttered by Jesus. Jan wrote: Wrong hardhead, you have to accept the fact, the corruption claim is lie. You cannot continue to follow Islam blindly, if your knowing of truth and you still follow, so be it. But at least now you been told the truth, it is up to you to look into it further for yourself and make a decision. <quoted text>
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Jan
Temecula, CA
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He was writing a story indeed, and he never said he was Not having divine intervention either, therefore that argument is null. Luke spelled out his purpose for writing in the first four verses of chapter one. Not only as an historian, but also as a medical doctor, Luke paid great attention to detail, including dates and events that happened throughout the life of Christ. A theme that is emphasized in the Gospel of Luke is the humanity of Jesus Christ and his perfection as a human. Jesus was the perfect man who gave the perfect sacrifice for sin, therefore, providing the perfect Savior for humankind. Luke was a faithful friend and travel companion of Paul. He wrote the Book of Acts as a sequel to the Gospel of Luke. Some discredit Luke's Gospel because he was not one of the 12 disciples. However, Luke had access to historical records. He carefully researched and interviewed the disciples and others who were eyewitnesses to the life of Christ. Hardhead wrote: I'm not trying to belittle your books,but seeking the truth whereever I can find it. Indeed, there are a lot of differences and discrepancies in the four Gospels. Luke himself, for example, stated in the introduction of his Gospel that he was just writing a story like many others who wrote about the life of Jesus. He never said that what he introduced to the Christians was divine or was exactly the same words uttered by Jesus. <quoted text>
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Hardhead
Sayhat, Saudi Arabia
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Do you prove divinity by undivined personal stories? What an absured jockes. Jan wrote: He was writing a story indeed, and he never said he was Not having divine intervention either, therefore that argument is null. Luke spelled out his purpose for writing in the first four verses of chapter one. Not only as an historian, but also as a medical doctor, Luke paid great attention to detail, including dates and events that happened throughout the life of Christ. A theme that is emphasized in the Gospel of Luke is the humanity of Jesus Christ and his perfection as a human. Jesus was the perfect man who gave the perfect sacrifice for sin, therefore, providing the perfect Savior for humankind. Luke was a faithful friend and travel companion of Paul. He wrote the Book of Acts as a sequel to the Gospel of Luke. Some discredit Luke's Gospel because he was not one of the 12 disciples. However, Luke had access to historical records. He carefully researched and interviewed the disciples and others who were eyewitnesses to the life of Christ. <quoted text>
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Jan
Temecula, CA
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Luke was an eyewitness directly to Jesus, Muhamamd was not. So yes I would take his word over Muhammad's. Then add the apostles words as well and they all confirm each other, Muhammad's do not. Hardhead wrote: Do you prove divinity by undivined personal stories? What an absured jockes. <quoted text>
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Hardhead
Sayhat, Saudi Arabia
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If Luke's bible/Gospel is man-made,how you trust his stories are divine and Word of God. How you trust such a blind faith myth of stories that noone could approve the authenticity. Look for some one to bluff in these stories. Jan wrote: Luke was an eyewitness directly to Jesus, Muhamamd was not. So yes I would take his word over Muhammad's. Then add the apostles words as well and they all confirm each other, Muhammad's do not. <quoted text>
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Jan
Temecula, CA
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All the gospel is written by man, inspired by God. Hardhead wrote: If Luke's bible/Gospel is man-made,how you trust his stories are divine and Word of God. How you trust such a blind faith myth of stories that noone could approve the authenticity. Look for some one to bluff in these stories. <quoted text>
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Hardhead
Sayhat, Saudi Arabia
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Do you mean God was talking to Luke and inspired him to write his Gospel?? Bring your evidence?? Jan wrote: All the gospel is written by man, inspired by God. <quoted text>
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Jan
Temecula, CA
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Thus, in having four distinct and yet equally accurate accounts of Christ, why would you question Luke? 2 Pet 2:2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. Hardhead wrote: Do you mean God was talking to Luke and inspired him to write his Gospel?? Bring your evidence?? <quoted text>
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