Either the Jews are Turks or the Turks are Jews.

[islam peace]

Tc In London wrote:

<quoted text>
what proof do you have that ataturk was a jew
in my eyes it really dosnt matter what he was
but still what proof have you got??????

people of the earth, you are all the same, human being. just be unite, be friendly, be nice, help each other...
racism is a cancer given to human souls and brains by those who are soldiers of Satan.
we are human beings. even our souls have no sex. male and female is just for phisically for this world. the souls are the same. Allah sent 50% as male and the other 50% as female.
be human being... see the light inside your heart.

[BE_OBJECTIVE]

HANAFI, I DON'T KNOW WHAT MADE YOU AN ENEMY OF TURKS.BUT YOU HAVE LOTS OF THINGS WRONG IN YOUR MIND ABOUT TURKEY.
FIRST OF ALL, IN TURKEY THERE IS ONLY 17.800 JEWS AMONG THE WHOLE POPULATION OF 72.900.000 PEOPLE. THE BIGGEST JEWISH COMMUNITY LIVES IN ISRAEL WITH 5.313.800 AND THE SECOND ONE IS UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 5,275,000. SO ISRAEL & USA HAS MORE OR LESS THE SAME LEVEL OF JEWS. THE THIRD ONE IS FRANCE 491.500 JEWS AND EVEN SARKOSZY IS A JEWISH MAN. EVEN IN GERMANY RIGHT NOW, THE POPULATION OF JEWS ARE 6 TIMES MORE THAN THE ONES LIVING IN TURKEY.
NO ONE CAN JUDGE TURKS ABOUT WHAT JEWS DID IN THE PAST DURING OTTOMAN EMPIRE.
IT WAS NOT THE FAULT OF TURKS. TURKS SHED THEIR LAST BLOOD DURING THE OTTOMAN TIME TO DEFEND THE CITY KUDUS, JERUSALEM. IT WAS NOT TURKS WHO WELCOMED BRITISH SOLDIERS WITH FLOWERS IN HAND. IT WAS NOT TURKISH SNIPERS WHO SHOT THE TURKISH SOLDIERS FROM THE TOP FLOOR OF THEIR HOUSES. SO ARABS MADE A BIG MISTAKE AND WELCOMED CHRISTIAN CRUSADERS WHO WERE HIDING JEWISH DESIRES IN THEIR HEART. SO WE DIDN’T INVITE JEWS TO ISRAEL. WE DIDN’T SELL LANDS TO THE JEWISH SETTLERS.
IF RIGHT NOW AMERICAN SOLDIERS USE DOG COLLAR FOR THE ARAB PRISONERS AND IF JEWS ARE KILLING INNOCENT ARAB BABIES, IT WAS NOT OUR FAULT.
IT WAS THE FAULT OF ARABS ITSELF. BECAUSE THEY WELCOMED CHRISTIAN CRUSADERS WITH FLOWERS AND BACKSTABBED TURKISH SOLDIERS. IF YOU DO SOMETHING WRONG, YOU SHOULD BEAR ITS RESULTS. OF COURSE, WE DONT WANT OUR ARAB FRIENDS TO BE PUNISHED BECAUSE OF THIS HISTORICAL FAULT NO MORE. BUT WE CAN NOT ACCEPT TO BE SHOWN AS THE DEVIL WHOSE RESPONSIBLE FROM THESE EVENTS. ANY WAY, YOU ARE STILL HAVING THE SAME IDEAS TOGETHER WITH THE CHRISTIAN CRUSADERS MAYBE YOU FEEL YOURSELF AS COPTIC CHRISTIAN INSTEAD OF A MUSLIM EVEN THOUGH YOUR FAMILY WAS A MUSLIM. BUT CHRISTIANS AND JEWS WILL NOT SOLVE YOUR PROBLEMS IN IRAQ AND IN ISRAEL.

[BE_OBJECTIVE]

YOU ARE TRYING TO SHOW MUSTAFA KEMAL ATATURK AS A JEW, WHOSE FATHER MR. ALI RIZA EFENDI HAS MIGRATED FROM KONYA WHICH IS THE LAND OF MEVLANA. ALSO PLEASE LOOK AT THE DRESSING OF ZUBEYDE HANIM WHOSE THE MOTHER OF MUSTAFA KEMAL. EVERYONE IN THE WORLD WILL AGREE THAT SHE IS A PURE MUSLIM.

http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z%C3%BCbeyde_Han...

YOU ARE STILL SERVING FOR JEWS BY ACCUSING MUSTAFA KEMAL AS A JEW. WHICH IS DEFINITELT NOT OF COURSE.

SO GO ON FROM THE SAME WAY, WHAT YOUR ANCESTORS DID. AND WALK WITH HAND TO HAND WITH BLOODY CHRISTIANS AND JEWS. YOU TRYTO SHOW THE TURKS %100 ISLAM BELIEVERS AS HIDING JEWISH BELIEVERS WHICH IS PROTESTING ISRAEL IN EVERY SINGLE CITY WITH THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.

I HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE A SERVANT OF JEWS IN THESE TOPICS. I DEFINITELY HESITATE YOUR BELIEF ON ISLAM.

[BE_OBJECTIVE]

BUT FEEL THAT BY SUCH TYPE OF BEHAVIORS, YOU ARE GOING TO BE JUDGED AND KEPT RESPONSIBLE FROM THE DEATH OF INNOCENT BABIES BLOOD KILLED IN IRAQ AND IN ISRAEL AT THE TIME OF JUDGEMENT BY ALLAH.

[Armilus]

Greek 2 wrote:

<quoted text>Yeah stop confusing the two people,
Jews are smart

Jews are smart turks:)

[greek]

BE_OBJECTIVE wrote:

HANAFI, I DON'T KNOW WHAT MADE YOU AN ENEMY OF TURKS.BUT YOU HAVE LOTS OF THINGS WRONG IN YOUR MIND ABOUT TURKEY.
FIRST OF ALL, IN TURKEY THERE IS ONLY 17.800 JEWS AMONG THE WHOLE POPULATION OF 72.900.000 PEOPLE. THE BIGGEST JEWISH COMMUNITY LIVES IN ISRAEL WITH 5.313.800 AND THE SECOND ONE IS UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 5,275,000. SO ISRAEL & USA HAS MORE OR LESS THE SAME LEVEL OF JEWS. THE THIRD ONE IS FRANCE 491.500 JEWS AND EVEN SARKOSZY IS A JEWISH MAN. EVEN IN GERMANY RIGHT NOW, THE POPULATION OF JEWS ARE 6 TIMES MORE THAN THE ONES LIVING IN TURKEY.
NO ONE CAN JUDGE TURKS ABOUT WHAT JEWS DID IN THE PAST DURING OTTOMAN EMPIRE.
IT WAS NOT THE FAULT OF TURKS. TURKS SHED THEIR LAST BLOOD DURING THE OTTOMAN TIME TO DEFEND THE CITY KUDUS, JERUSALEM. IT WAS NOT TURKS WHO WELCOMED BRITISH SOLDIERS WITH FLOWERS IN HAND. IT WAS NOT TURKISH SNIPERS WHO SHOT THE TURKISH SOLDIERS FROM THE TOP FLOOR OF THEIR HOUSES. SO ARABS MADE A BIG MISTAKE AND WELCOMED CHRISTIAN CRUSADERS WHO WERE HIDING JEWISH DESIRES IN THEIR HEART. SO WE DIDN’T INVITE JEWS TO ISRAEL. WE DIDN’T SELL LANDS TO THE JEWISH SETTLERS.
IF RIGHT NOW AMERICAN SOLDIERS USE DOG COLLAR FOR THE ARAB PRISONERS AND IF JEWS ARE KILLING INNOCENT ARAB BABIES, IT WAS NOT OUR FAULT.
IT WAS THE FAULT OF ARABS ITSELF. BECAUSE THEY WELCOMED CHRISTIAN CRUSADERS WITH FLOWERS AND BACKSTABBED TURKISH SOLDIERS. IF YOU DO SOMETHING WRONG, YOU SHOULD BEAR ITS RESULTS. OF COURSE, WE DONT WANT OUR ARAB FRIENDS TO BE PUNISHED BECAUSE OF THIS HISTORICAL FAULT NO MORE. BUT WE CAN NOT ACCEPT TO BE SHOWN AS THE DEVIL WHOSE RESPONSIBLE FROM THESE EVENTS. ANY WAY, YOU ARE STILL HAVING THE SAME IDEAS TOGETHER WITH THE CHRISTIAN CRUSADERS MAYBE YOU FEEL YOURSELF AS COPTIC CHRISTIAN INSTEAD OF A MUSLIM EVEN THOUGH YOUR FAMILY WAS A MUSLIM. BUT CHRISTIANS AND JEWS WILL NOT SOLVE YOUR PROBLEMS IN IRAQ AND IN ISRAEL.

Did you eve think that it was the harsh treatment living under the Turks that led the Arabs to revolt and side with the British?

[Turkmen]

Jews are Turks

khazarian empire Turkish empire that converted into judism located araound caspian sea during the mongol invasion khazarian turks fled to europe after the the world war 2 israel was created and those jews moved in to their new state

[Turk01]

Greek 2 wrote:

<quoted text>Wow!Now that really hurts

ey guppy, how about your ancestors? ever wondered which population turned you into half asians? xD

[Turk01]

Armilus wrote:

<quoted text>
Jews are smart turks:)

no, jews are a mix of genuine jews and khazars who have been germanified.

[Turk01]

Personally i think that israel is shitting himself and is afraid of turkey. Otherwise, turkey is probably the only country in the world that could defeat israel in combat.

Oh yea, by the way did you people now that there were two khazar tribes in turkey which had jewish flags during 1000 ad in anatolia? Both tribes migrated to anatolia from kaukasia. see candaroglu and karamanoglu in wikipedia.

[turk]

i have read all and i have a deep knowledge over geonology and alot of interest in tribes classifications.
according to the lost tn tribes of jews, mongols are considered to be jews, turks and jews have the same origen

[Alex]

archaeologists discovered a very long time ago that the first Jews or where Judaism first began was in Ethiopia. No one knows how the religion began or even if Ethiopia was the birthplace of judaism but thats were the earliest form of practices were found. So if you didn't believe in zeus/jupiter, the Egyptian gods you were most likely to have been a jew but people converted over the years to Christianity or muslim. But what people forget is that being a jew does not mean you are from israel it just means you follow judaism like christians follow christianity, the jews are not a race of people they are a religious people

[Someone]

Jews and Turks do not have any hate to each other.. It's only todays politics who seems like that!

[NobleSpirit]

Before Tsarist and Communist terror, Caucasia were a greatest region for peace tolerance and high moral values. Khazarians are pure Turks hence they have embraced Judaism, Nevertheless they have created perfect equality for any faith including Christianity,Islam, Shamanic faiths. When Tsarist terrorist have created bloody massacres Centuries old peaceful communities have been divided most of them fled to Anatolia and Eastern Europe, Later on Many of them migrated to Israel

They brought their peaceful culture with them wherever they go.

However today many people have wrong perception about those people, either they are being confused as Zionists or fundamentalist groups.

So not all Jewish middle eastern. Caucasian Jews were using more Altaic language like Turkish more than Hebrew. In fact some findings clearly shows Caucasian Judaism have been flourished with Turkish Languages alongside with Tengrism.

Khazarian Empire was great example that many different people can co-exist on peaceful ground. Ottoman empire's Intellectuals made certain moves to have Khazarian empire's model. However constant battles and islamic influences from kurds and arabs made that impossible. Eventually empire has collapsed.

Peaceful visionary intellectuals still exist in today's Turkish Republic and other caucasian communitues, They want to unite people by putting religious and racial differences aside, But cunning european leaders, Islamic terrorists, Communists and antichrist forces feel that such unity as great threat. So they try their best to destroy possible unity by altering the truth.

Europe consistently importing selected kurds from those who violent, criminal or simply naive. They create social issues across europe. Since many ignorant europeans dont know they are not Turks they get deceived they are turks and turks are bad people. For well educated professional Turks migrating or residing in eastern europe way harder than uneducated criminal kurds. Thats not only the european leaders do but also they support Kurdish Evil Terrorist Organization PKK.

Other dirty game is framing the Jews as Zionist and framing the Turks as islamic middle eastern. Those dark forces also supporting Kurdish or Islamic origin antichrist groups in Turkey, One of them Nur Foundation. They are extremely dangerous and terrorist minded people however they are very discreet about their true agenda, They represent(!) Turks worldwide by opening cultural centres and schools, however they rather recruit potential members to make the deception more successful.They are antichrist and antisemitist yet they talk about "religious tolerance"

They are supported by europe, china and russia

But for many people things being understood very differently. Media is crates firm deception about truth. Even latest terrorist incident in Norway being portrayed as a Mad man's acts while truth is totally different. The norwegian terrorist dude has been funded and trained by many dark organizations some of them in Europe, Russia even from US and China.

Chaos and Deception is important tool for evil forces to control the world and use the people like stupid puppets

[Suleyman]

Hanafi you are f*cken retarded ...

1. Jews and Turks are in now way related, expect for the VERY small number of Turkic Jews today (who DO NOT live in Turkey btw, but in ex soviet states and Israel) Jews in Turkey are 99% Shepardic (Spanish Jews)

2. Turkic Jews AKA Khazars where CONVERTS and not SEMITIC JEWS nor did they MASS convert, the Turkic Kazhar royality and nobility converted to Judaism. Most of the Khazars remained Tengrist (shamanist) later Christian and even later nearly all of them converted to ISLAM.

3. There are LESS Jews in Turkey today then in Iran (24 000 in Turkey, 25 000 in Iran and Iran has a smaller population meaning when compared in % they have even more) There are nearly 80 million people in Turkey!

4. Hanafi is one of those retarded Arab nationalist/apologists. Idiots like him have an inferiority complex when it comes to Turks because we ruled their asses for centuries.

5. Ataturk most certainly was not a Jew, he went to a "progressive/liberal " Jewish school without the knowledge of his mother.(She wanted him to become a man of faith/imam etc.) His mother was 100% Yoruk Turk. He has no Jewish ancestry at all. He was a secular Muslim, proud of his religion and race. Ataturks soldiers when given the order to charge would scream ALLAH ALLAH, which we Turks still do when we have to charge.

6. Ataturk closed all masonic lodges in Turkey and wrote about their dangers many times. He was NOT a mason, masons proudly show off notable people who were. Like the founding fathers of the USA.

7. The Arabs betrayed the Caliph by siding with the BRITISH spy, Lawrence.(the guy who introduced TERROR, Arab nationalism, Wahabism and GUERRILLA warfare). This led to the Turks losing thousands of Turkish youth in needless battles and losing Arabia (later Saudi Arabia, named after the Saudi scum bastard backstabber's) Palestine ETC.

8. The Turks permitted Jews to live in Jerusalem but not to build their own state there.(there wasn't any real demand for it anyway, most Jews at the time were anti Zionist, real Zionism came after WW2, which convinced Jews they needed their own state) Because of ARAB betrayal, the ENGLISH effectively took control of PALESTINE and later gave it to the ZIONISTS. Who then built Israel.

9. Arabs believe that they are superior for some reason because the Prophet happened to be one of them. That's what their nationalism is based on, religious fundamentalism + racial ideology. So they are no different then Zionists really .. Saudi Arabia is Israels BFF, this is a KNOW FACT. Not to mention BOTH Arabs and JEWS are SEMITES.

10. So they have an inferiority complex about Turks.. after all they are "superior" they believe. So how can Turks rule the Islamic world!? Just doesn't make sense damn-it AHAHAH So they rather side with Jews and Christians then support Muslim Turks.

11. But of course ... they can't just tell the Arab masses they are actually responsible for Israel. So they just blame it all on the Turks ..

I heard Arabs say that as much as 30% of Turkey was Jewish and Christian HAHAHA, That Ataturk was a Jew etc. That we demolished the Caliph while THEY betrayed it FAR before we where FORCED to get rid of it.

For the RECORD

Turkey is 99.8% Muslim according to official sources.(Sunni, Shia and Alevi)

But a growing part of the population is non practicing and many are becoming Gnostic or Atheist in extreme situations.

Arabs just don't get it... they believe that you have to dress, walk, talk and think like an Arab to be Muslim .. they believe every girl in Turkey without a scarf or preferably full cover hijab is a "kafir/infidel" Jew HAHA

In short... they are fucking retarded ... and shocked by our soap opera's (made for house wifes) which they all watch drooling over Turkish women. Just check youtube and read the comments .. the idiots ask with EVERY actor... is he/she Muslim? 99.9% YES, but WHO THE FUCK CARES IF THEY ARE OR NOT?

Arabs get out of your medieval bubble

[Suleyman]

P.s.

@Greek 2 ... no it wasn't harsh treatment .. Lawrence the spy brought the Idea of Nationalism/Racism ... Some Arab tribes and one of the biggest SCUM every SAUDI took this ideology. Saudi was a common bandit at the time .. he then became supreme ruler of Arabia and EVEN was the FIRST ever to name a piece of land after him self. Thus Arabia became Saudi Arabia. Lawrence used these bandits and criminals for guerrilla warfare against the Ottoman Turks. destroying their supply lines etc. Most Arabs did not help the British and did not revolt Against the Ottomans. Small groups of bandits/skirmishers did.

@ Orginal poster

Like I already explained ... we are not related to the the original Jews at all .. there are Turkic Jews but those are very few in numbers (live in Israel/ ex soviet states and western EU not Turkey) and they are extremely mixed with Eastern Europeans.

Arabs how ever are related to Jews and are even more Semetic then modern Jews.

As for Eve being Turkish for "Women" this is wrong .. but Adam in Turkish mean MAN. Though when we say man we say ADAM, the name "Adam" is differently written and pronounced; ADEM Instead of ADAM

[U ALL SUCK]

Hey Hanafi you ignorant fuck...didn't Egypt take part in the slavery of millions of jews? Hence what led to the story of moses parting the red sea? Suggeting that there has been no Jewish bloodlines mixed in the history of Egypt is like saying there was no Palestinian historical significance in Israel. It is blatantly ignorant...and if you also think that your filthy Egyptian ancestors didn't rape and or otherwise fuck the shit out of jewish slaves that bore Judeo-Egyptian slave children who unbenounced to the the rest of your prostitution loving citizens did indeed propegate into the general populous,is also asenine. Either you are reading bullshit or your reading comprehension really sucks. Either way you are an ignorant bitch.

[greek]

Suleyman wrote:

P.s.
@Greek 2 ... no it wasn't harsh treatment .. Lawrence the spy brought the Idea of Nationalism/Racism ... Some Arab tribes and one of the biggest SCUM every SAUDI took this ideology. Saudi was a common bandit at the time .. he then became supreme ruler of Arabia and EVEN was the FIRST ever to name a piece of land after him self. Thus Arabia became Saudi Arabia. Lawrence used these bandits and criminals for guerrilla warfare against the Ottoman Turks. destroying their supply lines etc. Most Arabs did not help the British and did not revolt Against the Ottomans. Small groups of bandits/skirmishers did.
@ Orginal poster
Like I already explained ... we are not related to the the original Jews at all .. there are Turkic Jews but those are very few in numbers (live in Israel/ ex soviet states and western EU not Turkey) and they are extremely mixed with Eastern Europeans.
Arabs how ever are related to Jews and are even more Semetic then modern Jews.
As for Eve being Turkish for "Women" this is wrong .. but Adam in Turkish mean MAN. Though when we say man we say ADAM, the name "Adam" is differently written and pronounced; ADEM Instead of ADAM

Did the Jews or Christians living under Ottoman rule have any rights in your courts?

[Lao Jiu]

It is possible that not all Jews are descended from Jacob; however, it is not possible that all Jews are NOT descended from Jacob.

[IRON EAGLE 777]

first off, turks and jews are reptilian shapeshifting jinn of satan. Whatever problems they have is on the surface as they 69 each other under the surface. They both hate ARYANS, MUSLIMS, ARABS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY ALLAH. They will be included in the 700 million people who will be scalar wiped off the Earth for good. There jinn ways are over and they are only tough from afar or in jinn form. Confront them face to face and go ARYAN NAZI on them and watch them melt.