Why the Turks prefer Nikos Anastasiadis for next Cyprus president?

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Aristodimos

Ansonia, CT

#1 Feb 12, 2013
1.They have the wrong impression and illusion that he is going to be flexible to the Turkish plans and give up to their threats and blackmail.

2.They prefer him because he was a supporter of the Annan plan which the Turks considered it was favorable to them and their long planning plans.

3.The Turks use reverse psychology.He is their least favor because he is going to make a government of national unity or bring all Greek Cypriot forces together.Therefore by saying is their favor,many voters who are against Turkey will vote for his opponents.
Observer

Limassol, Cyprus

#2 Feb 12, 2013
Because he will do whatever the British and Americans tell him and we know what they promote. He is also a suporter of the idea that the natural gas must reach the EU via the Nabuko pipeline in Turkey.
A lawyer is always too dangerous to be trusted especially if his name is N.A.
mkz6

Shirley, NY

#3 Feb 12, 2013
Observer wrote:
Because he will do whatever the British and Americans tell him and we know what they promote. He is also a suporter of the idea that the natural gas must reach the EU via the Nabuko pipeline in Turkey.
A lawyer is always too dangerous to be trusted especially if his name is N.A.
that guy anastasioglu must have a brain damage ,shame on him ,he is am jerk
john

Wheaton, IL

#4 Feb 13, 2013
could it be that Turks are smart enough to realize that communism perpetuates corruption and blocks progress?

Christofias is EU's only communist president who idolizes Castro and Putin. He lives like a capitalist but practices communism on its people. For the last five years, he managed to ridicule the Cypriots, bankrupt the system and still continues to lead the Cypriots to their demise. These fighting, brave, intelligent Spartans continue to be led by somebody who is incompetent with a distorted view of democracy. Cypriots use big, brave words towards Turks but are cowrds and little lambs in protecting themselves against the real enemy in their backyard.

Even now, I wouldn't be surprised if the Cypriots shoot themselves on the foot once again and end up electing another loser. It is better to be led by a loser than a smart one who might share opinions with the rest of the westernized world. The possibility of somebody who might speak the language of the west, the possibility of somebody who might dare communicate with the Turks is a scary scenario. We do want a solution but we don't want anybody who might want to talk to the enemy.

Cypriots hate Turks more than they love their country and in the end, they will choose to stay in their comfort zone, even if its means following a path of decline. Wall Street and the Economist wrote about the benefits of electing a moderate but I doubt it. Cypriots don't like change, are scared of foreigners and like to think that everybody is always plotting against them. They will probably vote for somebody who will give them enough material to complain and whining about.
Aristodimos

Ansonia, CT

#5 Feb 13, 2013
john wrote:
could it be that Turks are smart enough to realize that communism perpetuates corruption and blocks progress?
Christofias is EU's only communist president who idolizes Castro and Putin. He lives like a capitalist but practices communism on its people. For the last five years, he managed to ridicule the Cypriots, bankrupt the system and still continues to lead the Cypriots to their demise. These fighting, brave, intelligent Spartans continue to be led by somebody who is incompetent with a distorted view of democracy. Cypriots use big, brave words towards Turks but are cowrds and little lambs in protecting themselves against the real enemy in their backyard.
Even now, I wouldn't be surprised if the Cypriots shoot themselves on the foot once again and end up electing another loser. It is better to be led by a loser than a smart one who might share opinions with the rest of the westernized world. The possibility of somebody who might speak the language of the west, the possibility of somebody who might dare communicate with the Turks is a scary scenario. We do want a solution but we don't want anybody who might want to talk to the enemy.
Cypriots hate Turks more than they love their country and in the end, they will choose to stay in their comfort zone, even if its means following a path of decline. Wall Street and the Economist wrote about the benefits of electing a moderate but I doubt it. Cypriots don't like change, are scared of foreigners and like to think that everybody is always plotting against them. They will probably vote for somebody who will give them enough material to complain and whining about.
The subject here is Nikos Anastasiadis not Christofias.
Christofias is History,finished.

If Anastasiadis gets elected,what are your expectations?

Lets say he is the right choice of the Greek Cypriots,do you think the Turks will be more flexible with him and less intransigent?

Do you think the solution is around the corner?
john

Wheaton, IL

#6 Feb 13, 2013
mkz6 wrote:
<quoted text>that guy anastasioglu must have a brain damage ,shame on him ,he is am jerk
it is easy to label and follow the herd but why don't you tell this forum why Anastassiades is a jerk. Is it because he is not a communist or socialist? Is it because he is one of the few who read the Annan plan and offered an opinion? Is it because he is not afraid of controversy and speaks his mind or is it because he doesn't sugar coat things to just get elected?

I love how Greeks and GCs are very fond of socialism and communism but choose to live in capitalist countries. They seem to tolerate abuse and corruption of the government as long as they are also benefiting. They don't give a damn about the poor who end up paying the hefty cost of their selfish behavior. They turn around and bring their stolen wealth in capitalist countries to make sure they are free to use it to earn them more wealth. Patriotism at its best. Do you ever stop and worry about the poor people who suffer through the austerity cuts in Greece? Do you think that the system and the government's actions serve them right? is it fair to know that their compatriots had stolen their money and the bail out money and filled up Swiss banks while they are left behind with a debt to pay, hungry in the streets, burning wood to keep warm?

Democracy did start in Greece but Greeks are the least democratic people on this planet. They are selfish, greedy, lazy and very hateful even towards their own. They always rationalize as to why everything is due to them. I am wondering if the twelve pageant gods were created to make sure every aspect of Greek life was covered by a god on duty to make sure the threat enforced accountability.Is like telling the Greeks that somebody is always watching and bad things will happen if you guys don't behave. We need to bring the fear back to make sure the Greeks start behaving
greek

Union, NJ

#7 Feb 13, 2013
john wrote:
could it be that Turks are smart enough to realize that communism perpetuates corruption and blocks progress?
Christofias is EU's only communist president who idolizes Castro and Putin. He lives like a capitalist but practices communism on its people. For the last five years, he managed to ridicule the Cypriots, bankrupt the system and still continues to lead the Cypriots to their demise. These fighting, brave, intelligent Spartans continue to be led by somebody who is incompetent with a distorted view of democracy. Cypriots use big, brave words towards Turks but are cowrds and little lambs in protecting themselves against the real enemy in their backyard.
Even now, I wouldn't be surprised if the Cypriots shoot themselves on the foot once again and end up electing another loser. It is better to be led by a loser than a smart one who might share opinions with the rest of the westernized world. The possibility of somebody who might speak the language of the west, the possibility of somebody who might dare communicate with the Turks is a scary scenario. We do want a solution but we don't want anybody who might want to talk to the enemy.
Cypriots hate Turks more than they love their country and in the end, they will choose to stay in their comfort zone, even if its means following a path of decline. Wall Street and the Economist wrote about the benefits of electing a moderate but I doubt it. Cypriots don't like change, are scared of foreigners and like to think that everybody is always plotting against them. They will probably vote for somebody who will give them enough material to complain and whining about.
You're that stupid,idiotic Turkish kid in Illinois that still talks out of the side of his ass
What's the matter, do you ever know what you are talking about or just like to type?
Do your parents know you are not in school?
john

Wheaton, IL

#8 Feb 13, 2013
Aristodimos wrote:
<quoted text>
The subject here is Nikos Anastasiadis not Christofias.
Christofias is History,finished.
If Anastasiadis gets elected,what are your expectations?
Lets say he is the right choice of the Greek Cypriots,do you think the Turks will be more flexible with him and less intransigent?
Do you think the solution is around the corner?
That ship sailed a long time ago. Cyprus is divided and no leader has the ability or power to turn the clock. You said it yourself many times that the demands of the GCs remain the same. Demands that produced no positive results will continue to have the same outcome. We have to recognize that demands that involve people and their lives need to change to meet the realities of the times. GCs expect families that lived together for the last 38 years to be separated because the nationality of the original spouse, father or mother is Turkish. I imagine is fair that the TCs ask for the south to get rid of all new citizens who resided in the south in the last 38 years as well. It will be absurd of course, but somehow, it is less absurd if the new citizens are originally from Turkey? The same with the army in the north. Sign the agreements first, put clauses and conditions and expect actions and implementation after. Turkey claims the army is there to protect the TCs because the GCs cannot be trusted. Why would you expect their protection to leave first before any agreement? That is why what was feasible before is no longer.

What Cyprus needs now is a president who can focus on domestic issues and the economy. Cypriots shouldn't elect somebody who can promise talks with Turkey but somebody who can promise talks with Cypriot citizens, to get them out of the gutter and off to prosperity and self independence. If people are stripped of their self respect, financial independence and rights, they will never be equipped to handle Turkey or other foreign threats. Elections are to elect a leader for the Republic of Cyprus and not a Secretary of State. The president can later appoint the best qualified person to handle this important issue. A president has to first qualify to serve its own people and protect them against foreign threats.

The country is in debt, people are hungry and the moral is low. For 38 years, the focus was on Turkey, every politician's qualifications were measured by his ability to arrange for a meeting with the Turks. I believe that anybody who loves his country enough and who is capable to handle the domestic issues to help his country will be somebody who is qualified to arrange for a meeting with Turkey. A leader can lead in more ways than one and can multitask. It is not about how many times he has coffee with Turkey but how well he can use the coffee time to produce results.
Aristodimos

Ansonia, CT

#9 Feb 13, 2013
john wrote:
<quoted text>
it is easy to label and follow the herd but why don't you tell this forum why Anastassiades is a jerk. Is it because he is not a communist or socialist? Is it because he is one of the few who read the Annan plan and offered an opinion? Is it because he is not afraid of controversy and speaks his mind or is it because he doesn't sugar coat things to just get elected?
I love how Greeks and GCs are very fond of socialism and communism but choose to live in capitalist countries. They seem to tolerate abuse and corruption of the government as long as they are also benefiting. They don't give a damn about the poor who end up paying the hefty cost of their selfish behavior. They turn around and bring their stolen wealth in capitalist countries to make sure they are free to use it to earn them more wealth. Patriotism at its best. Do you ever stop and worry about the poor people who suffer through the austerity cuts in Greece? Do you think that the system and the government's actions serve them right? is it fair to know that their compatriots had stolen their money and the bail out money and filled up Swiss banks while they are left behind with a debt to pay, hungry in the streets, burning wood to keep warm?
Democracy did start in Greece but Greeks are the least democratic people on this planet. They are selfish, greedy, lazy and very hateful even towards their own. They always rationalize as to why everything is due to them. I am wondering if the twelve pageant gods were created to make sure every aspect of Greek life was covered by a god on duty to make sure the threat enforced accountability.Is like telling the Greeks that somebody is always watching and bad things will happen if you guys don't behave. We need to bring the fear back to make sure the Greeks start behaving
I think your too cynical and prejudice.Anything the GC's do,you will always find something negative.I don't know who you represent or what you represent.What makes you believe that you always have the right answers and solutions?
john

Wheaton, IL

#10 Feb 13, 2013
greek wrote:
<quoted text> You're that stupid,idiotic Turkish kid in Illinois that still talks out of the side of his ass
What's the matter, do you ever know what you are talking about or just like to type?
Do your parents know you are not in school?
Did your mom tell you you are smart? I hate to tell you the truth but moms sometimes lie to make you feel better or because they feel sorry for you
Aristodimos

Ansonia, CT

#11 Feb 13, 2013
john wrote:
<quoted text>
That ship sailed a long time ago. Cyprus is divided and no leader has the ability or power to turn the clock. You said it yourself many times that the demands of the GCs remain the same. Demands that produced no positive results will continue to have the same outcome. We have to recognize that demands that involve people and their lives need to change to meet the realities of the times. GCs expect families that lived together for the last 38 years to be separated because the nationality of the original spouse, father or mother is Turkish. I imagine is fair that the TCs ask for the south to get rid of all new citizens who resided in the south in the last 38 years as well. It will be absurd of course, but somehow, it is less absurd if the new citizens are originally from Turkey? The same with the army in the north. Sign the agreements first, put clauses and conditions and expect actions and implementation after. Turkey claims the army is there to protect the TCs because the GCs cannot be trusted. Why would you expect their protection to leave first before any agreement? That is why what was feasible before is no longer.
What Cyprus needs now is a president who can focus on domestic issues and the economy. Cypriots shouldn't elect somebody who can promise talks with Turkey but somebody who can promise talks with Cypriot citizens, to get them out of the gutter and off to prosperity and self independence. If people are stripped of their self respect, financial independence and rights, they will never be equipped to handle Turkey or other foreign threats. Elections are to elect a leader for the Republic of Cyprus and not a Secretary of State. The president can later appoint the best qualified person to handle this important issue. A president has to first qualify to serve its own people and protect them against foreign threats.
The country is in debt, people are hungry and the moral is low. For 38 years, the focus was on Turkey, every politician's qualifications were measured by his ability to arrange for a meeting with the Turks. I believe that anybody who loves his country enough and who is capable to handle the domestic issues to help his country will be somebody who is qualified to arrange for a meeting with Turkey. A leader can lead in more ways than one and can multitask. It is not about how many times he has coffee with Turkey but how well he can use the coffee time to produce results.
If the ship sailed long time ago,then why do you bother who will be the leader of the Greek Cypriots? According to you,it will not make any difference,because Turkey decided which is going to be the solution?

The hell with the UN resolutions,the hell with international laws,the hell with human rights.

Your solution is for the GC's to get suicide,that's the only option they have.
Dervis Eroglu

Edgware, UK

#12 Feb 13, 2013
Aristodimos wrote:
1.They have the wrong impression and illusion that he is going to be flexible to the Turkish plans and give up to their threats and blackmail.
2.They prefer him because he was a supporter of the Annan plan which the Turks considered it was favorable to them and their long planning plans.
3.The Turks use reverse psychology.He is their least favor because he is going to make a government of national unity or bring all Greek Cypriot forces together.Therefore by saying is their favor,many voters who are against Turkey will vote for his opponents.
Hahaha. you are one delusional fool.

until your post I never even heard of this guy. what makes you think we give a toss about your politicians are they not Greek,
we seen your leaders come and go they are all clowns from the same circus.

I bet you any thing you want we go to TRNC and ask 10.000 Turkish Cypriots to name more then two Greek politicians 90% will not be able to name the two because they don't care, their answer will be who cares their are Greek aren't they.
and most of the Turks wouldn't know where the south is. hahahaha,

We have our own agenda that is what is important for us,

john

Wheaton, IL

#13 Feb 13, 2013
Aristodimos wrote:
<quoted text>
If the ship sailed long time ago,then why do you bother who will be the leader of the Greek Cypriots? According to you,it will not make any difference,because Turkey decided which is going to be the solution?
The hell with the UN resolutions,the hell with international laws,the hell with human rights.
Your solution is for the GC's to get suicide,that's the only option they have.
All countries vote for a president to run their country. The president then appoints qualified personnel to fill his cabinet. He has to delegate jobs to his ministers to handle different sectors and sometimes special committees to deal with urgent matters. Only in Cyprus do people choose a president who promises to negotiate a solution to Cyprus problem. He is in office for five years, rationalizes his incompetence and failures and once in a while meets the TC leader for coffee. In the meantime, all domestic issues are on the back burner and Turkey is the focus and the scapegoat.

Get real and understand that there is more to leading a country than meeting with the Turkish counterpart. As for a solution, I know it is hard to accept but there will never be one because you are all dreaming and refuse to accept the sober reality of things. A realist could easily see Turkey is not responsible for Cyprus's current mess. A realist can see that after 38 years of peace, Cyprus owns its destiny and its current problems. Sleeping with Russia and trying to trick the IMF for bailout, lying about money laundering, focusing only the government employees and neglecting the needs of the rest of the Cypriots etc.

A country that would rather hire high school people to fill its important positions only because of nepotism is pathetic. So many qualified Cypriots can't find jobs and their talents and contribution end up benefiting their adopted countries instead of Cyprus. Even lower income employees in Cyprus are fired and being replaced by Russians or Greeks from Greece. That is the reality of things and nobody gives a damn and you all dream of the day your valuable real estate will be returned to you. Rights belong to doers and not dreamers. As a matter of fact the solution already took place. What you see is what you get. You all like it, use it to excuse inaction and rationalize apathy. No solution is the solution and it has been there facing you for almost four decades.

My advice to you is to stop reading Turkish newspapers and read more on Cyprus, stop insulting your people by expressing racist and narrow minded opinions and stop advertising ignorance and phobia as though it is a Cypriot tradition and you are proud of it.
turkofool

London, UK

#14 Feb 13, 2013
Dervis Eroglu wrote:
<quoted text>
Hahaha. you are one delusional fool.
until your post I never even heard of this guy. what makes you think we give a toss about your politicians are they not Greek,
we seen your leaders come and go they are all clowns from the same circus.
I bet you any thing you want we go to TRNC and ask 10.000 Turkish Cypriots to name more then two Greek politicians 90% will not be able to name the two because they don't care, their answer will be who cares their are Greek aren't they.
and most of the Turks wouldn't know where the south is. hahahaha,
We have our own agenda that is what is important for us,
man you really are an idiot
greek

Union, NJ

#15 Feb 13, 2013
john wrote:
<quoted text>
All countries vote for a president to run their country. The president then appoints qualified personnel to fill his cabinet. He has to delegate jobs to his ministers to handle different sectors and sometimes special committees to deal with urgent matters. Only in Cyprus do people choose a president who promises to negotiate a solution to Cyprus problem. He is in office for five years, rationalizes his incompetence and failures and once in a while meets the TC leader for coffee. In the meantime, all domestic issues are on the back burner and Turkey is the focus and the scapegoat.
Get real and understand that there is more to leading a country than meeting with the Turkish counterpart. As for a solution, I know it is hard to accept but there will never be one because you are all dreaming and refuse to accept the sober reality of things. A realist could easily see Turkey is not responsible for Cyprus's current mess. A realist can see that after 38 years of peace, Cyprus owns its destiny and its current problems. Sleeping with Russia and trying to trick the IMF for bailout, lying about money laundering, focusing only the government employees and neglecting the needs of the rest of the Cypriots etc.
A country that would rather hire high school people to fill its important positions only because of nepotism is pathetic. So many qualified Cypriots can't find jobs and their talents and contribution end up benefiting their adopted countries instead of Cyprus. Even lower income employees in Cyprus are fired and being replaced by Russians or Greeks from Greece. That is the reality of things and nobody gives a damn and you all dream of the day your valuable real estate will be returned to you. Rights belong to doers and not dreamers. As a matter of fact the solution already took place. What you see is what you get. You all like it, use it to excuse inaction and rationalize apathy. No solution is the solution and it has been there facing you for almost four decades.
My advice to you is to stop reading Turkish newspapers and read more on Cyprus, stop insulting your people by expressing racist and narrow minded opinions and stop advertising ignorance and phobia as though it is a Cypriot tradition and you are proud of it.
SEE! The same stupid idiot. Do all these stupid Turks on this forum know each other?
or are they all somehow the same person?
I Wonder
Aristodimos

Ansonia, CT

#16 Feb 13, 2013
john wrote:
<quoted text>
All countries vote for a president to run their country. The president then appoints qualified personnel to fill his cabinet. He has to delegate jobs to his ministers to handle different sectors and sometimes special committees to deal with urgent matters. Only in Cyprus do people choose a president who promises to negotiate a solution to Cyprus problem. He is in office for five years, rationalizes his incompetence and failures and once in a while meets the TC leader for coffee. In the meantime, all domestic issues are on the back burner and Turkey is the focus and the scapegoat.
Get real and understand that there is more to leading a country than meeting with the Turkish counterpart. As for a solution, I know it is hard to accept but there will never be one because you are all dreaming and refuse to accept the sober reality of things. A realist could easily see Turkey is not responsible for Cyprus's current mess. A realist can see that after 38 years of peace, Cyprus owns its destiny and its current problems. Sleeping with Russia and trying to trick the IMF for bailout, lying about money laundering, focusing only the government employees and neglecting the needs of the rest of the Cypriots etc.
A country that would rather hire high school people to fill its important positions only because of nepotism is pathetic. So many qualified Cypriots can't find jobs and their talents and contribution end up benefiting their adopted countries instead of Cyprus. Even lower income employees in Cyprus are fired and being replaced by Russians or Greeks from Greece. That is the reality of things and nobody gives a damn and you all dream of the day your valuable real estate will be returned to you. Rights belong to doers and not dreamers. As a matter of fact the solution already took place. What you see is what you get. You all like it, use it to excuse inaction and rationalize apathy. No solution is the solution and it has been there facing you for almost four decades.
My advice to you is to stop reading Turkish newspapers and read more on Cyprus, stop insulting your people by expressing racist and narrow minded opinions and stop advertising ignorance and phobia as though it is a Cypriot tradition and you are proud of it.
I have a question for you.Why do you care so much about Cyprus? Do you have a personal vendetta?

Why you are wasting so much of your precious time to be in this forum by using different names?

What is your ultimate goal?

I think you should take your mask off and tell us who you are,so we know with whom we are dealing,instead of playing games.
john

Wheaton, IL

#17 Feb 13, 2013
Aristodimos wrote:
<quoted text>
I have a question for you.Why do you care so much about Cyprus? Do you have a personal vendetta?
Why you are wasting so much of your precious time to be in this forum by using different names?
What is your ultimate goal?
I think you should take your mask off and tell us who you are,so we know with whom we are dealing,instead of playing games.
fair enough. take off your mask, send this forum your true identity and I will do the same. GCs, you have to stop this nasty habit of expecting others to do what you are not willing to do themselves. Why should Aristotemos is good enough for me and John not enough for you?
john

Wheaton, IL

#18 Feb 13, 2013
greek wrote:
<quoted text>SEE! The same stupid idiot. Do all these stupid Turks on this forum know each other?
or are they all somehow the same person?
I Wonder
So, all the Turks here don't match your intelligence? Why don't we ask all the Greeks here to rate your intelligence and agree or disagree that stupid is, stupid talks. Any volunteers that feel that this Greek's brain is not in a vegetated state?

My diagnosis of you and many other Greeks here is that you are all like dogs barking at the mailman. You are programmed to do so and you can't help yourselves. You can't think, can't process information but recognize the uniform. You are so pathetic and cowards that don't even dare criticize each other. Just barking and calling people stupid Turks makes you feel a genius? The louder you bark the smaller and more scared you must be.

Sometimes, there is support among you all if the dog is more aggressive than usual and the little dogs feel obligated to lick his ass to express gratitude. Keep on roaming the forum calling posters stupid in hope that you will gain activity in your brain. Good luck!
Gat

Astoria, NY

#19 Feb 13, 2013
john wrote:
<quoted text>
Did your mom tell you you are smart? I hate to tell you the truth but moms sometimes lie to make you feel better or because they feel sorry for you
Hi Maria or News! So you finally got released from the insane asylum. Now your calling yourself John now we see.
Aristodimos

Ansonia, CT

#20 Feb 13, 2013
john wrote:
<quoted text>
fair enough. take off your mask, send this forum your true identity and I will do the same. GCs, you have to stop this nasty habit of expecting others to do what you are not willing to do themselves. Why should Aristotemos is good enough for me and John not enough for you?
Why you didn't respond at the thread #12 by Dervis Eroglu. He said that all Greek Cypriot leaders are clowns and that most TC's do not know who Anastasiadis is.Do you agree with him? Is this your personal view too?

As far as taking my mask off,I said many times who I'm.I'm a Greek Cypriot and a refugee from Famagusta.I'm a guy,did my service in the Cyprus army and now I'm US citizen.

Now tell us who you are? Are you a GC or a TC? Are you a man or a woman?

Who is your favor to win the election and why?

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