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Turkey's foreign minister Davutoglu is brilliant!!!!!

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Aristodimos

United States

#1 Feb 19, 2012
In few years he managed to turn Israel.Syria and Iran arch-enemies of Turkey.

His dream to re-create a Neo-Ottoman empire has backfired.

Israel-Cyprus-Greece-Bulgaria and Rumania are forming a partnership and alliance.The new found gas and oil fields in Eastern Mediterranean forced Israel and Cyprus to protect their interests.

Syria-Iran-Iraq-Kurds will form the Shiite alliance to stop Turkey for interfering in their domestic affairs.

I forgot Russia and the Central Asia states!!!! Will Russia tolerate Turks interfering in their domestic affairs?

Poor Turkey will be alone again.....and insecured!!!!!
Aristodimos

United States

#2 Feb 19, 2012
Turkey can count on Europe and the United States!!!LOL

The Turks show their loyalty to Christian Europe by making movies how they slaughtered the Christians of Istanbul or Constantinople!!!!

On the other hand,the United States and Jews are ready to embrace Turkey and abandon Israel!LOL
Themistocles

Kuraby, Australia

#3 Feb 19, 2012
Aristodimos wrote:
In few years he managed to turn Israel.Syria and Iran arch-enemies of Turkey.
His dream to re-create a Neo-Ottoman empire has backfired.
Israel-Cyprus-Greece-Bulgaria and Rumania are forming a partnership and alliance.The new found gas and oil fields in Eastern Mediterranean forced Israel and Cyprus to protect their interests.
Syria-Iran-Iraq-Kurds will form the Shiite alliance to stop Turkey for interfering in their domestic affairs.
I forgot Russia and the Central Asia states!!!! Will Russia tolerate Turks interfering in their domestic affairs?
Poor Turkey will be alone again.....and insecured!!!!!
Not entirely alone they may have a powerful ally in Fake Macedonia and maybe Pakistan. The thought of these three together will deter any threats, this I think is Davutoglu's strategy, very clever man.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#4 Feb 19, 2012
Hey Guys, Davutoglu and his mates are not clever.

When Davutoglu retire from politics, they will be remembered for not finding a justifying solution for Cyprus and its people.

Infact, i doubt if they will ever mention the word Cyprus in his autobiography.

They will join the rest of the "failed" Turkish politicians not willing to compromise in a fair solution for Cyprus.
Dervis Eroglu

Rickmansworth, UK

#5 Feb 20, 2012
lapithos wrote:
Hey Guys, Davutoglu and his mates are not clever.
When Davutoglu retire from politics, they will be remembered for not finding a justifying solution for Cyprus and its people.
Infact, i doubt if they will ever mention the word Cyprus in his autobiography.
They will join the rest of the "failed" Turkish politicians not willing to compromise in a fair solution for Cyprus.
Tell us lapithos what is your idea of a fair solution acceptable by the greeks?,

Ankara is short from begging illigal RoC to come up with a solution that is fair to both Cypriot communities, But your leaders are to afraid to make that commitment, their policies are any thing out side one Cyprus ruled by Greeks is not negotiable,

Annan plan was approved by all parties concerned and the support of United nations, but papadopulos had cold feet running up to referendum,
like Makarios when under pressure he also agreed the treaty of 1960 but only lasted 3 years before caving in to pressure from Greece,
You need leaders with some back bone to take you people forward,
one Cyprus ruled by greeks is not on the negotiating table.

Turkeys policies on Cyprus is well known around the world , a lasting peaceful solution with guarantees.
Like Turkeys many other politicians before Mr Erdogan and Mr Davutoglu they are also there to implement those policies, and if they can succeed with in their time in office then they done well if not other leaders will continue to protect the lives and the intrests of Turkish Cypriots in Cyprus.
Themistocles

South Brisbane, Australia

#6 Feb 20, 2012
Dervis Eroglu wrote:
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Tell us lapithos what is your idea of a fair solution acceptable by the greeks?,
Ankara is short from begging illigal RoC to come up with a solution that is fair to both Cypriot communities, But your leaders are to afraid to make that commitment, their policies are any thing out side one Cyprus ruled by Greeks is not negotiable,
Annan plan was approved by all parties concerned and the support of United nations, but papadopulos had cold feet running up to referendum,
like Makarios when under pressure he also agreed the treaty of 1960 but only lasted 3 years before caving in to pressure from Greece,
You need leaders with some back bone to take you people forward,
one Cyprus ruled by greeks is not on the negotiating table.
Turkeys policies on Cyprus is well known around the world , a lasting peaceful solution with guarantees.
Like Turkeys many other politicians before Mr Erdogan and Mr Davutoglu they are also there to implement those policies, and if they can succeed with in their time in office then they done well if not other leaders will continue to protect the lives and the intrests of Turkish Cypriots in Cyprus.
That's not true, the only solution Turkey will accept is that Turkey is in control of North Cyprus, surely you can see that? we can and so can the TC's, take your blinkers off man
Dervis Eroglu

Rickmansworth, UK

#7 Feb 20, 2012
Themistocles wrote:
<quoted text>That's not true, the only solution Turkey will accept is that Turkey is in control of North Cyprus, surely you can see that? we can and so can the TC's, take your blinkers off man
You are not answering the question.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#8 Feb 20, 2012
Dervis Eroglu wrote:
<quoted text>
Tell us lapithos what is your idea of a fair solution acceptable by the greeks?,
Ankara is short from begging illigal RoC to come up with a solution that is fair to both Cypriot communities, But your leaders are to afraid to make that commitment, their policies are any thing out side one Cyprus ruled by Greeks is not negotiable,
Annan plan was approved by all parties concerned and the support of United nations, but papadopulos had cold feet running up to referendum,
like Makarios when under pressure he also agreed the treaty of 1960 but only lasted 3 years before caving in to pressure from Greece,
You need leaders with some back bone to take you people forward,
one Cyprus ruled by greeks is not on the negotiating table.
Turkeys policies on Cyprus is well known around the world , a lasting peaceful solution with guarantees.
Like Turkeys many other politicians before Mr Erdogan and Mr Davutoglu they are also there to implement those policies, and if they can succeed with in their time in office then they done well if not other leaders will continue to protect the lives and the intrests of Turkish Cypriots in Cyprus.
Re TC, many years ago my grandmother told me that Cyprus has been cursed from God and we will never see ever lasting peace. I was only a young teenager at the time and it never occured to me that i might be saying the same to my grandchildren one day.

Unfortunately i dont think we will see the light at the end of the tunnel in our time for obvious reasons.

TC, its fair to say that no Greek Cypriot politicion current or future will ever except the Turkish army on Cypriot soil. I think you will agree with me. Its just will never ever happen.

Territorial adjustments is another key issue even if we do agree on a "loose" federation. Varosha has one of the best beaches in the world and yet its a ghost city held to ransom as bargining tool against the Greek Cypriots. In the year 2012, can you believe such a city stuck in a time zone still exist. What a national disgrace.

And now of course the new wealth under the sea were we see Turkey threatning us again even though we said that TCs will benefit as well.

We are going around in circles fighting like cats and dogs aren't we.

I have said this many times, to find a lasting solution we need a new breed of Cypriot politicians with a brain of its own to take authority back in Cyprus or else again we will see blood from both sides.
Aristodimos

United States

#9 Feb 20, 2012
Themistocles wrote:
<quoted text>Not entirely alone they may have a powerful ally in Fake Macedonia and maybe Pakistan. The thought of these three together will deter any threats, this I think is Davutoglu's strategy, very clever man.
Your right my friend,I forgot FYROM,FAKISTAN and SUDAN the new alliance for Turkey!!!!
Dervis Eroglu

Rickmansworth, UK

#10 Feb 20, 2012
lapithos wrote:
<quoted text>Re TC, many years ago my grandmother told me that Cyprus has been cursed from God and we will never see ever lasting peace. I was only a young teenager at the time and it never occured to me that i might be saying the same to my grandchildren one day.
Unfortunately i dont think we will see the light at the end of the tunnel in our time for obvious reasons.
TC, its fair to say that no Greek Cypriot politicion current or future will ever except the Turkish army on Cypriot soil. I think you will agree with me. Its just will never ever happen.
Territorial adjustments is another key issue even if we do agree on a "loose" federation. Varosha has one of the best beaches in the world and yet its a ghost city held to ransom as bargining tool against the Greek Cypriots. In the year 2012, can you believe such a city stuck in a time zone still exist. What a national disgrace.
And now of course the new wealth under the sea were we see Turkey threatning us again even though we said that TCs will benefit as well.
We are going around in circles fighting like cats and dogs aren't we.
I have said this many times, to find a lasting solution we need a new breed of Cypriot politicians with a brain of its own to take authority back in Cyprus or else again we will see blood from both sides.
So you are saying federation is the way forward, I also agree
by this Marash will be opened Greece army to leave cyprus Turkish army to leave ,, Turkey has made it Crystal clear ounce a solution is found Turkey will pull back the army,
so why still insist on Turkish troops to leave before a solution if found , No Turkish politician would agree to pull back the Troops before a solution is found it will never ever happen,

Re lapithos isn't it far easier to reach a peaceful solution, and we can ask for the removal all foreign armies,
Observer

Limassol, Cyprus

#11 Feb 20, 2012
"Dervis Eroglu" So you are saying federation is the way forward, I also agree
by this Marash will be opened Greece army to leave cyprus Turkish army to leave ,, Turkey has made it Crystal clear ounce a solution is found Turkey will pull back the army,
so why still insist on Turkish troops to leave before a solution if found , No Turkish politician would agree to pull back the Troops before a solution is found it will never ever happen,
Re lapithos isn't it far easier to reach a peaceful solution, and we can ask for the removal all foreign armies.

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Are you so naive? Turkey will not leave Cyprus under any circumstances. The only peacefull solution that Turkey wants is a solution which gives her full control of the north while at the same time loose ties with the south which give her the possibility of ultimate control over the whole island. Then they may remove the Turkish army. You Turks are so smart, so intelligent, so fair. I admire your high intellect which is second to none.
You are a Turkish Cypriot. I know this by your posts. The question I want to ask you is whether you are more a Turk than a Cypriot or more a Cypriot than a Turk. What beats me is how can a Turkish Cypriot honestly claim that Turkey invaded Cyprus to save you from the Greek Cypriots. Why is it that more than 60% of Turkish Cypriots flet to the uk right after the invasion?
If the Greeks invated Cyprus to save us from T/C's and they had treated us the same way Turkey had been treating you, not only I would not support them but I would even fight them
demanding they should go home and leave us alone. But again I am a Cypriot first and foremost and I am not blind.
I realize that as in any war also in this one there are people that benefit and people that are exploited. You can tell which side one is by his words and actions when more than half of his countrymen (T/C)are persecuted by their mother invator and choose to run away to foreign lands. They even have a name by which they are called.
Tc In London

Johnstone, UK

#12 Feb 20, 2012
Observer wrote:
"Dervis Eroglu" So you are saying federation is the way forward, I also agree
by this Marash will be opened Greece army to leave cyprus Turkish army to leave ,, Turkey has made it Crystal clear ounce a solution is found Turkey will pull back the army,
so why still insist on Turkish troops to leave before a solution if found , No Turkish politician would agree to pull back the Troops before a solution is found it will never ever happen,
Re lapithos isn't it far easier to reach a peaceful solution, and we can ask for the removal all foreign armies.
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Are you so naive? Turkey will not leave Cyprus under any circumstances. The only peacefull solution that Turkey wants is a solution which gives her full control of the north while at the same time loose ties with the south which give her the possibility of ultimate control over the whole island. Then they may remove the Turkish army. You Turks are so smart, so intelligent, so fair. I admire your high intellect which is second to none.
You are a Turkish Cypriot. I know this by your posts. The question I want to ask you is whether you are more a Turk than a Cypriot or more a Cypriot than a Turk. What beats me is how can a Turkish Cypriot honestly claim that Turkey invaded Cyprus to save you from the Greek Cypriots. Why is it that more than 60% of Turkish Cypriots flet to the uk right after the invasion?
If the Greeks invated Cyprus to save us from T/C's and they had treated us the same way Turkey had been treating you, not only I would not support them but I would even fight them
demanding they should go home and leave us alone. But again I am a Cypriot first and foremost and I am not blind.
I realize that as in any war also in this one there are people that benefit and people that are exploited. You can tell which side one is by his words and actions when more than half of his countrymen (T/C)are persecuted by their mother invator and choose to run away to foreign lands. They even have a name by which they are called.
now look in the mirror and say all that and you will realize that yourself wont beleive it
Dervis Eroglu

Rickmansworth, UK

#13 Feb 20, 2012
Observer wrote:
"Dervis Eroglu" So you are saying federation is the way forward, I also agree
by this Marash will be opened Greece army to leave cyprus Turkish army to leave ,, Turkey has made it Crystal clear ounce a solution is found Turkey will pull back the army,
so why still insist on Turkish troops to leave before a solution if found , No Turkish politician would agree to pull back the Troops before a solution is found it will never ever happen,
Re lapithos isn't it far easier to reach a peaceful solution, and we can ask for the removal all foreign armies.
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Are you so naive? Turkey will not leave Cyprus under any circumstances. The only peacefull solution that Turkey wants is a solution which gives her full control of the north while at the same time loose ties with the south which give her the possibility of ultimate control over the whole island. Then they may remove the Turkish army. You Turks are so smart, so intelligent, so fair. I admire your high intellect which is second to none.
You are a Turkish Cypriot. I know this by your posts. The question I want to ask you is whether you are more a Turk than a Cypriot or more a Cypriot than a Turk. What beats me is how can a Turkish Cypriot honestly claim that Turkey invaded Cyprus to save you from the Greek Cypriots. Why is it that more than 60% of Turkish Cypriots flet to the uk right after the invasion?
If the Greeks invated Cyprus to save us from T/C's and they had treated us the same way Turkey had been treating you, not only I would not support them but I would even fight them
demanding they should go home and leave us alone. But again I am a Cypriot first and foremost and I am not blind.
I realize that as in any war also in this one there are people that benefit and people that are exploited. You can tell which side one is by his words and actions when more than half of his countrymen (T/C)are persecuted by their mother invator and choose to run away to foreign lands. They even have a name by which they are called.
It is easy for you to say what you do because you were never oppressed or persecuted in any way by the Turkish Cypriots,

You feel insecure and threaten by Turkish Troops being on the island even tho they are in the north of the island and remained there for the last 38 years, no matter how much reassurances you are given you still feel threaten by their presents on the island can you answer me, Why is that?.
If you can answer then you also answered why Turkish Cypriots want to remain a separate entity

you should know exactly how Turkish Cypriots felt pre 74,


Since: May 10

Location hidden

#14 Feb 20, 2012
Dervis Eroglu wrote:
<quoted text>
So you are saying federation is the way forward, I also agree
by this Marash will be opened Greece army to leave cyprus Turkish army to leave ,, Turkey has made it Crystal clear ounce a solution is found Turkey will pull back the army,
so why still insist on Turkish troops to leave before a solution if found , No Turkish politician would agree to pull back the Troops before a solution is found it will never ever happen,
Re lapithos isn't it far easier to reach a peaceful solution, and we can ask for the removal all foreign armies,
What Greek army re TC? A mere 900 troops that you hardly bump into, or 40 thousand Turkish troops that are standing in every corner in the North.

Aren't you sick and tired of foreingers asking you when you say your from Cyprus which part. North or South.. I am. Isn't it better just to say plain Cyprus?

I know you agree that everyone should have a right to go back home were they came from in Cyprus if they choose.

My dream one day is to see the old Nicosia airport reopen and become the main airport for all to enjoy.

Varosha can once again become the best beach in the world for Aristocrats to visit and boost the Cypriot economy.

We can put Cyprus back on the map if our leaders agree and become the number one destination.

Of course for this to happen, they must agree and armies to withdraw. Illegal settlers also must face the consequences on both sides. Cypriots to return if they choose to their rightful towns and cities.

Free to move from one side to another as long as they want without a checklist or permission. We are a EU country at the end of the day so lets behave like one.

Am i asking to much re TC?
Tc In London

Johnstone, UK

#15 Feb 20, 2012
lapithos wrote:
<quoted text>What Greek army re TC? A mere 900 troops that you hardly bump into, or 40 thousand Turkish troops that are standing in every corner in the North.
Aren't you sick and tired of foreingers asking you when you say your from Cyprus which part. North or South.. I am. Isn't it better just to say plain Cyprus?
I know you agree that everyone should have a right to go back home were they came from in Cyprus if they choose.
My dream one day is to see the old Nicosia airport reopen and become the main airport for all to enjoy.
Varosha can once again become the best beach in the world for Aristocrats to visit and boost the Cypriot economy.
We can put Cyprus back on the map if our leaders agree and become the number one destination.
Of course for this to happen, they must agree and armies to withdraw. Illegal settlers also must face the consequences on both sides. Cypriots to return if they choose to their rightful towns and cities.
Free to move from one side to another as long as they want without a checklist or permission. We are a EU country at the end of the day so lets behave like one.
Am i asking to much re TC?
you are not asking much for sure

but why dont you specially where you come from ask youre elders why they put you in this position?

maybe they will give you a straight answer

the answer should be

( WE F@@@CKED UP BIG TIME )
Dervis Eroglu

Rickmansworth, UK

#16 Feb 21, 2012
lapithos wrote:
<quoted text>What Greek army re TC? A mere 900 troops that you hardly bump into, or 40 thousand Turkish troops that are standing in every corner in the North.
Aren't you sick and tired of foreingers asking you when you say your from Cyprus which part. North or South.. I am. Isn't it better just to say plain Cyprus?
I know you agree that everyone should have a right to go back home were they came from in Cyprus if they choose.
My dream one day is to see the old Nicosia airport reopen and become the main airport for all to enjoy.
Varosha can once again become the best beach in the world for Aristocrats to visit and boost the Cypriot economy.
We can put Cyprus back on the map if our leaders agree and become the number one destination.
Of course for this to happen, they must agree and armies to withdraw. Illegal settlers also must face the consequences on both sides. Cypriots to return if they choose to their rightful towns and cities.
Free to move from one side to another as long as they want without a checklist or permission. We are a EU country at the end of the day so lets behave like one.
Am i asking to much re TC?
Living in peace and harmony is the wish of all decent and civilised people.

To achieve this we need agreement cooperation and goodwill learn to trust and respect each other, but this is not in field or range,
and it can never be whilst hatred and hostilities continue aimed at Turkish Cypriots, it only makes us drift further apart,

Greek leadership needs to redress the state of affairs they needs to rethink their policies on reunification because existing greek policies on unity is only cause disunity. I can tell you that for sure because I am a Turkish Cypriot,

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#17 Feb 21, 2012
Tc In London wrote:
<quoted text>
you are not asking much for sure
but why dont you specially where you come from ask youre elders why they put you in this position?
maybe they will give you a straight answer
the answer should be
( WE F@@@CKED UP BIG TIME )
Reeeee TC, Why are you stuck in a time zone? Snap out of it. Did someone bend you over in Lapithos?
Look man, i respect you on this forum and you can voice your opinion anytime but repeating the same [email protected] over again is not going to change the fate of Cyprus.

Its time to move on and build a bridge between GCs and TCs.

There was blood all over Cyprus those days and missing Cypriots everywhere. We dont know whats going to happen in the future re TC. While we write [email protected] to each other on this forum, others are building a bridge between GCs and TCs. They are not traitors but they want to see a better future for Cyprus and its citizens.

Now who are you supporting Re TC? Turkey or Cyprus. There can only be one..
Dervis Eroglu

Rickmansworth, UK

#18 Feb 21, 2012
lapithos wrote:
<quoted text>Reeeee TC, Why are you stuck in a time zone? Snap out of it. Did someone bend you over in Lapithos?
Look man, i respect you on this forum and you can voice your opinion anytime but repeating the same [email protected] over again is not going to change the fate of Cyprus.
Its time to move on and build a bridge between GCs and TCs.
There was blood all over Cyprus those days and missing Cypriots everywhere. We dont know whats going to happen in the future re TC. While we write [email protected] to each other on this forum, others are building a bridge between GCs and TCs. They are not traitors but they want to see a better future for Cyprus and its citizens.
Now who are you supporting Re TC? Turkey or Cyprus. There can only be one..
Cyprus is my country when the day comes and we resolved all our differences then I will support my country 100% what ever the decision, we are not terrorist eoka ,
Zak

Cyprus

#19 Feb 21, 2012
He is also brilliant at impersonating the chipmunks!!
Observer

Limassol, Cyprus

#20 Feb 21, 2012
"Tc In London" now look in the mirror and say all that and you will realize that yourself wont beleive it .

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I can look into any mirror and repeat everything I said again and gain because it is the absolute truth that only blind people cannot see.

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