Cyprus never EVER been part of Greece
Aristodimos

United States

#62 Jan 30, 2013
hilarious asala wrote:
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so what you are telling me is that greeks are all mongrels
mixture of all different people wowza didnt expect that from you dumbass
You got the wrong conclusion.Where did I say they Greeks were mongrels.Greece wasn't one united nation.They all share the same language,culture and religion but their loyalties was with their own cities and their allies.The Athenians for example didn't like the Spartans or the Macedonians.They were considered themselves culturally and militarily superior and them inferior.
Dervis Eroglu

Gloucester, UK

#63 Jan 31, 2013
hilarious asala wrote:
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so what you are telling me is that greeks are all mongrels
mixture of all different people wowza didnt expect that from you dumbass
Of course they are , but they don't go back that far
their history started with in the confinements of late Turkic Empires. indeed modern Greeks are very much a mongrel race.
Tc In London

Johnstone, UK

#65 Feb 2, 2013
Aristodimos wrote:
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You got the wrong conclusion.Where did I say they Greeks were mongrels.Greece wasn't one united nation.They all share the same language,culture and religion but their loyalties was with their own cities and their allies.The Athenians for example didn't like the Spartans or the Macedonians.They were considered themselves culturally and militarily superior and them inferior.
all the greeks are different tribes that all united under one name

MALAKAS

Lol
Greek

Bloomington, IN

#66 Feb 2, 2013
Tc In London wrote:
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all the greeks are different tribes that all united under one name
MALAKAS
Lol
True The Aeolians,the Dorians,and the Ionians.This was like 4000 years ago
Same could be said about Italy,and Sicily,Great Britain and other countries as well
What are you trying to say?
Tc In London

Johnstone, UK

#67 Feb 2, 2013
Greek wrote:
<quoted text>True The Aeolians,the Dorians,and the Ionians.This was like 4000 years ago
Same could be said about Italy,and Sicily,Great Britain and other countries as well
What are you trying to say?
so when does pure mean pure???

you are a mixture of everything my friend just like any other nation

especially greeks also has the turkish tribe in them aswell lol
Tc In London

Johnstone, UK

#68 Feb 2, 2013
Greek wrote:
<quoted text>True The Aeolians,the Dorians,and the Ionians.This was like 4000 years ago
Same could be said about Italy,and Sicily,Great Britain and other countries as well
What are you trying to say?
you obviously didnt get the joke
Londoner

Stockport, UK

#69 Feb 2, 2013
History Observer wrote:
Does Greek Orthodox Church written history books say Cyprus is Greek?
Cyprus is not a Greek island, and believe me Cyprus never been part of Greece.
Cyprus Was Never a Greek island And It Never Will Be

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#70 Feb 2, 2013
Londoner wrote:
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Cyprus Was Never a Greek island And It Never Will Be
Cyprus was always a Greek island and it will always be!!! Turkmenistan is where you belong. Provoking us will send you there sooner than later. We will send you there anyhow.:) What you steal never becomes yours!!!!

During the late Bronze Age the island experienced two waves of Greek settlement. The first wave consisted of Mycenaean Greek traders who started visiting Cyprus around 1400 BC.!!! A major wave of Greek settlement is believed to have taken place following the Bronze Age collapse of Mycenaean Greece from 1100!! to 1050 BC,!!! with the island's predominantly Greek character dating from this period.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Cypr...

Ethnographic distribution in Cyprus 1960.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ethnographi...

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#71 Feb 2, 2013
3500 years of predominant Hellenism in Cyprus!!!!
Popodopulos

London, UK

#72 Feb 3, 2013
Jasmin32 wrote:
3500 years of predominant Hellenism in Cyprus!!!!
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You mean Greeks was the SLAVES of others till saved by Ottoman Turks?

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#73 Feb 3, 2013
Popodopulos wrote:
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You mean Greeks was the SLAVES of others till saved by Ottoman Turks?
I guess you read that from a turkish propaganda book....hahahahah No wonder why any journalist saying any truths there is going to jail.!!!....hahahahahaha

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#74 Feb 3, 2013
Anything else by anyone that think the ottomans were saviors????....hahahaha Your time to go back to Turkmenistan is near!!!!!

In 1570, a full scale Ottoman assault with 60,000 troops brought the island under Ottoman control, despite stiff resistance by the inhabitants of Nicosia and Famagusta. 20,000 Nicosians were put to death, and every church, public building, and palace was looted

Ottoman rule of Cyprus was at times indifferent, at times oppressive, depending on the temperaments of the sultans and local officials, and during this period the island fell into economic decline

Centuries of neglect by the Turks, the unrelenting poverty of most of the people, and the ever-present tax collectors fuelled Greek nationalism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyprus

Throughout the period of Venetian rule, Ottoman Turks raided and attacked the peoples of Cyprus at will. The Greek population of Cyprus were given weapons by their rulers the Venetians and fought the attacking Ottomans.

In 1489, the first year of Venetian control, Turks attacked the Karpasia Peninsula, pillaging and taking captives to be sold into slavery In 1539 the Turkish fleet attacked and destroyed Limassol

In the summer of 1570, the Turks struck again, but this time with a full-scale invasion rather than a raid. About 60,000 troops, including cavalry and artillery, under the command of Lala Mustafa Pasha landed unopposed near Limassol on July 2, 1570, and laid siege to Nicosia. The city fell—September 9, 1570–20,000 Nicosian Greeks were put to death, and every church, public building, and palace was looted. Only women and boys who were captured to be sold as slaves were spared

Famagusta, however, resisted and put up a defense that lasted from September 1570 until August 1571.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Cyprus

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#75 Feb 3, 2013
Even the turks were joining the rebellions against the ottomans, that good they were the ottomans!!! Turkish Cypriots perhaps you are not so much turks after all!!!!

Following the Ottoman conquest, many Greek Cypriots and Latins, in order to escape heavy taxation, converted to Islam. Many Greek Cypriots who had been officially converted to Islam remained actually Christians in secret. They were normally called "linobambaki". The "linobambaki" turned up during daytime as Muslims, and in the evenings they appeared as Christians, keeping to Christianity, its customs and its habits.

The inhabitants of Cyprus, disappointed at the mismanagement of home affairs by the Ottoman governors, soon turned to outside powers in search for help for liberation. Very characteristic is the appeal by Archbishop Timotheos to Philip II of Spain for liberation of the island, in which, among other things, the following is stated:

There have recently been repeated cases of abuse on the part of the organs of the conqueror; in a greedy manner they attempt to confiscate and seize the property of the inhabitants; Christian houses are broken into and domiciles violated, and all sorts of dishonest acts against wives and daughters are committed. Twice until now churches and monasteries have been plundered, multiple and heavy taxes have been imposed whose collection is pursued by systematic persecutions, threats and tortures, which lead many persons to the ranks of Islam, while at the same time the male children of Cypriot families are seized (in order to form the brigades of Janissaries). This most hard practice is the worst of the sufferings to which the people of Cyprus is subjected by the Ottoman administration.

Between 1572 and 1668, about 28 uprisings took place on the island and in many of these both Greeks and Turks (poor Turks were also exploited by the ruling class) took part.

The title and function of this officer were awarded to the person who paid the highest amount of money in exchange. As a result, heavier taxation was imposed and the Cypriots became the subject of harder exploitation.About 1760 a combination of a plague epidemic, bad crops, and earthquakes drove many Cypriots to emigrate. In addition, the newly-appointed Pasha doubled the taxes in 1764. In the end Chil Osman and 18 of his friends were killed by Greek and Turkish Cypriots alike.

With the Sultan's consent, the Ottoman administration in the island under governor Küçük Mehmet, executed 486 Greek Cypriots on 9 July 1821, accusing them of conspiring with the rebellious Greeks. They included four Bishops, many clergymen and prominent citizens, who were beheaded in the central square of Nicosia, while Archbishop Kyprianos was hanged. The French consul M. Méchain reported on 15 September 1821 that the local pasha, Küçük Mehmet, carried out several days of massacres in Cyprus since July 9 and continued on for 40 days, despite the Vizier's command to end the plundering since 20 July 1821.

On 15 October 1821, a massive Turkish mob seized and hanged an Archbishop, five Bishops, thirty six ecclesiastics, and hanged most of the Greek and Turkish Cypriots in Larnaca and the other towns. By September 1822, sixty two Cypriot villages and hamlets had entirely disappeared. The property of the Church was plundered and the Greek Cypriots were forced to pull down the upper storeys of their houses, an order that remained in force until the British put the island under their control almost sixty years later.

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#76 Feb 3, 2013

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#77 Feb 3, 2013
The Ottomans were not good for anything else than killing unarmed civilians and very bad in fighting armed men especially on the mountains!!! this is the reason we are still here!!!!

My own grandfather managed by himself alone to beat a whole Turkish mob!!! trying to enter his house with axes and kill his family, as they did a few minutes before with his neighbor!! because Denktas put a bomb in a mosque.!!!!

So don't play the good ones here you are the worst nation the world has ever seen!!!!

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#78 Feb 3, 2013
Jasmin32 wrote:
The Ottomans were not good for anything else than killing unarmed civilians and very bad in fighting armed men especially on the mountains!!! this is the reason we are still here!!!!
My own grandfather managed by himself alone to beat a whole Turkish mob!!! trying to enter his house with axes and kill his family, as they did a few minutes before with his neighbor!! because Denktas put a bomb in a mosque.!!!!
So don't play the good ones here you are the worst nation the world has ever seen!!!!
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Famagusta, however, resisted and put up a defense that lasted from September 1570 until August 1571.
Do you know why?
I tell you, because it was no Greeks in Famagusta fighting Ottomans is wa all Venecians.
Greeks never put up a fight at all.Just like 1922 in Anotolia 1974 in Cyprus.

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#79 Feb 3, 2013
Another Turk reading from Turkish propaganda books!!!!....hahahahaha

The defenders of Famagusta on 1571 were Greek and Venetian. The total defending force was between 6000 and 8500 (depending on sources) while the attacking Turkish force was 200 thousands.!!! The Turks lost 80 thousand armed men in that siege.!!!

In 1974 the military losses of the turks were twice than the Greeks, despite the national guard being without any real weaponry and the treason!!!! The unarmed Greek-cypriot civilian and the missing prisoners were the casualties!!!

In action......

Total:
397 killed - Greek-cypriot

Total:

568-838 killed - Turkish

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_operati...

As for your claim that the Greek never fought the Turks.....take a look at the huge list that I have in another post and is called Greek victories over the Turks and you will find out.....

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#80 Feb 3, 2013
Other sources are saying and are pretty sure, that the Turkish military losses in action on 1974, in Cyprus, were many thousands and the Turks are just hiding them, something that they usually do. General propaganda in everything!!!
Londoner

Cheadle, UK

#81 Feb 3, 2013
Popodopulos wrote:
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You mean Greeks was the SLAVES of others till saved by Ottoman Turks?
I totally agree
Once again..... Cyprus Was Never a Greek Island And It Never Will Be A Greek Island
Get Over It Bubble

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#82 Feb 3, 2013
Londoner wrote:
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I totally agree
Once again..... Cyprus Was Never a Greek Island And It Never Will Be A Greek Island
Get Over It Bubble
Take the post again then.....hahahahaha

Cyprus was always a Greek island and it will always be!!! Turkmenistan is where you belong. Provoking us will send you there sooner than later. We will send you there anyhow.:) What you steal never becomes yours!!!!

During the late Bronze Age the island experienced two waves of Greek settlement. The first wave consisted of Mycenaean Greek traders who started visiting Cyprus around 1400 BC.!!! A major wave of Greek settlement is believed to have taken place following the Bronze Age collapse of Mycenaean Greece from 1100!! to 1050 BC,!!! with the island's predominantly Greek character dating from this period.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Cypr ...

Ethnographic distribution in Cyprus 1960.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ethnographi ...

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