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Why the TC's do not get alone with settlers?

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theguynextdoor
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Jul 24, 2008
 

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Is it because the TC's are racists?
Is it because the TC's are better educated?
Is it because the TC's are more westernized?
Is it because the TC's feel more Greek than Turkish?
Is it because the TC's have a higher standards of living?

or.. is because the settlers are filthy nomads and village idiots?

or.. is because the settlers are criminals with low morals?

or...is because the settlers have no skills or respect for their neighbours properties.

or...is because the TC's and settlers have nothing in common,besides the language.

All Mexicans speak Spanish too.Are they really from Spain?
Turko
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Jul 25, 2008
 
Turks and T/Cs are one, you idiot,
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Jul 25, 2008
 
Turko wrote:
Turks and T/Cs are one, you idiot,
You mean Turks.Are the TC's really Turks?Can you prove it? Why everybody thinks that the TC's are Cypriots.If the TC's are not Cypriots,why they claim Cyprus land?
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Jul 25, 2008
 
Turko wrote:
Turks and T/Cs are one, you idiot,
Why the are most TC's emigrating?
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Jul 25, 2008
 
Interesting question from an immigrant in US! Maybe for the same reason with you. At least I am writing from my home Greek 2!

By the way, it has been too long, did you miss my posts to you?
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<quoted text>Why the are most TC's emigrating?
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Jul 25, 2008
 
Greek 2 wrote:
<quoted text>Why the are most TC's emigrating?
To get away from you bastards
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Jul 25, 2008
 
theguynextdoor wrote:
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You mean Turks.Are the TC's really Turks?Can you prove it? Why everybody thinks that the TC's are Cypriots.If the TC's are not Cypriots,why they claim Cyprus land?
Cyprus is our country, we are Turks, settlers from Anatolia, came to settle many many years a go, we are Turks First, Cypriot second, you can have the Cypriot or a Greek bubble as the British calls you people,

So how did you sneak in to the country, line bunch of cockroaches, who's bastards are you, Ottoman seed, or every seed available,
Dont answer that as I dont give a sh*t
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Jul 25, 2008
 
Turko wrote:
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Cyprus is our country, we are Turks, settlers from Anatolia, came to settle many many years a go, we are Turks First, Cypriot second, you can have the Cypriot or a Greek bubble as the British calls you people,
So how did you sneak in to the country, line bunch of cockroaches, who's bastards are you, Ottoman seed, or every seed available,
Dont answer that as I dont give a sh*t
Talk sense fool!
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Jul 25, 2008
 
Geo wrote:
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Talk sense fool!
Oh i am a fool am i??
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Jul 26, 2008
 
Most Turkish Cypriots do not like the Anatolian settlers.A Turkish Cypriot friend told me once that the Turks of Anatolia are all gypsies or Yoruks.
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Jul 26, 2008
 
Answer me this,
Do you believe human race originated from Adam and Eve, or

The human race evolved, and the common ancestors were the Apes,

Which do you really believe,
Turko
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Jul 26, 2008
 
it is for you guynexdoor
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Jul 26, 2008
 
Turko wrote:
Answer me this,
Do you believe human race originated from Adam and Eve, or
The human race evolved, and the common ancestors were the Apes,
Which do you really believe,
Human race didn't start with Adam and Eve.This is a Jewish fallacy.According to them,human life exists for only 6,000 years.Human beings were living on this earth for hundreds of thousands of years.These are the four elements of life,earth,air,water and fire.Without any one of these elements,life is impossible.Therefore life emerged from the compination of these elements.
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Jul 26, 2008
 
WHO SAYS THEY DONT GET ALONG???, YOU ARE JUST A SCHIT STIRRER,
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Jul 26, 2008
 
theguynextdoor wrote:
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Human race didn't start with Adam and Eve.This is a Jewish fallacy.According to them,human life exists for only 6,000 years.Human beings were living on this earth for hundreds of thousands of years.These are the four elements of life,earth,air,water and fire.Without any one of these elements,life is impossible.Therefore life emerged from the compination of these elements.
Yes human race dose go back 1000s of years

There is the stone age, Bronze age, and the iron age,

Not being personal, do you go to church and have strong ties with your religion??

or are you like me Secular, where religion is concerned i can take it or leave it, it doesn't bother me,
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Jul 26, 2008
 
Turko wrote:
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Yes human race dose go back 1000s of years
There is the stone age, Bronze age, and the iron age,
Not being personal, do you go to church and have strong ties with your religion??
or are you like me Secular, where religion is concerned i can take it or leave it, it doesn't bother me,
Im not a religious person.I'm an agnosticist.Not any organized religion convinced me so far that their theories or beliefs are the perfect for human race.All are power and economic opportunists compined with local traditions.
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Jul 26, 2008
 
theguynextdoor wrote:
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Im not a religious person.I'm an agnosticist.Not any organized religion convinced me so far that their theories or beliefs are the perfect for human race.All are power and economic opportunists compined with local traditions.
Then you are more towards being an atheist , because it is the same as being Agnostic,
as you know, agnostic person is who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God,

since we the people who are animal man, Primitive man begins with instinct the voice of God Fulfillment of most basic needs done on
the basis of sensory and physical information. Reason is used to extend beyond instinct, initially
by creation of desires and greediness. Man is driven by reason in each stage. Man would prefer to
be lazy and primitive but cannot forget what he learns by reason and therefore is driven to further develop reason to cope.
This use of reason distinguishes man from other animals.
Man understands that choice exists but
but dose not know how to make choices,

The rule of nature applies to all living creatures including Animal man, survival of the fittest,
it is inscribed in our DNA, the man has all ways been a hunter gatherer, now a capitalist,

There is no religion that is tailor made to suit all man, there can never be one since man is driven by greed,

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Jul 27, 2008
 
Turko wrote:
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Then you are more towards being an atheist , because it is the same as being Agnostic,
as you know, agnostic person is who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God,
since we the people who are animal man, Primitive man begins with instinct the voice of God Fulfillment of most basic needs done on
the basis of sensory and physical information. Reason is used to extend beyond instinct, initially
by creation of desires and greediness. Man is driven by reason in each stage. Man would prefer to
be lazy and primitive but cannot forget what he learns by reason and therefore is driven to further develop reason to cope.
This use of reason distinguishes man from other animals.
Man understands that choice exists but
but dose not know how to make choices,
The rule of nature applies to all living creatures including Animal man, survival of the fittest,
it is inscribed in our DNA, the man has all ways been a hunter gatherer, now a capitalist,
There is no religion that is tailor made to suit all man, there can never be one since man is driven by greed,
I dont disagree with you.I'm a rational person that uses reason in every occasion.
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Jul 27, 2008
 
Guy wrote:
WHO SAYS THEY DONT GET ALONG???, YOU ARE JUST A SCHIT STIRRER,

YOU MEAN YOU GET ALONG? HOW ABOUT THIS REPORT

The New York Times, January 23, 1991

According to preliminary results, the population of northern Cyprus was 198,215. Further details will take weeks, maybe months, to compile, experts here say. But the big ques- tion will be when, and if, statistics on the number of Turkish-born settlers are ever released.

"Unless the issue is taken out of politics, we may never know," said Mustafa Akinci, leader of the Communal Liberation Party, an opposition party in the Turkish part of Cyprus. "Will they publish the birth- places? I don't know. And until they do, it is hard to tell just how many Turkish Cypriots are left."

Mr. Akinci, like many Turkish Cypriots, fears that their numbers are indeed dwindling, not as fast as the Greek Cypriots say, but enough to change the face of the island. The economy of northern Cyprus has be- come increasingly depressed and dependent on Turkish aid.

Ankara's official aid bill for Turkish-ruled Cyprus in 1997 is $250 million, and that docs not include the cost of maintaining 35,000 Turkish troops on the island. Meanwhile, the gap between the rich south and the poor north, is growing even wider.

"Each time I go to London, I see faces that I used to see in Cyprus,' Mr. Akinci said. "Unfortunately, we are losing the most precious sector of society. If this trend continues, we are going to end up a white-haired country."

In the meantime, the recent arrivals from Turkey - many of them single men who come for seasonal work - are widely blamed for rising crime in the north. Burglaries, for example, are at record levels. "People in northern Cyprus are not used to locking their cars, their houses," Mr. Akinci said. In the old resort town of Kyrenia, which was emptied of its Greek in habitants after 1974, many of the men sitting at the outdoor cafes tha line the pretty harbor lament what has become of Turkish Cyprus.

"The Turks are willing to work for less and those Turkish Cypriots win don't have their own business or government jobs are leaving," said Turan Yeshliada, 36, who owns a clothing store in Nicosia. "I would prefer to have our own citizens, but it is not enough to hope. If we don't find a solution for this island, the only way is down."
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Jul 27, 2008
 
or this resolution from the European Union Assembly:

Recommendation 1608 (2003)1

Colonisation by Turkish settlers of the occupied part of Cyprus

1. The Parliamentary Assembly expresses its deep disappointment at the failure of the negotiations under the aegis of the United Nations aimed at achieving a functional and viable solution to the Cyprus problem. It hopes, nevertheless, that the efforts will be resumed and continued until a sustainable settlement is found.

2. It is a well-established fact that the demographic structure of the island has been continuously modified since its de facto partition in 1974, as a result of the deliberate policies of the Turkish Cypriot administration and Turkey. Despite the lack of consensus on the exact figures, all parties concerned admit that Turkish nationals have since been systematically arriving in the northern part of the island. According to reliable estimates, their number currently totals 115 000.

3. The settlers come mainly from the region of Anatolia, one of the least developed regions of Turkey. Their customs and traditions differ significantly from those present in Cyprus. These differences are the main cause of the tensions and dissatisfaction of the indigenous Turkish Cypriot population, who tend to view the settlers as a foreign element.

4. In particular, the Assembly expresses its concern at the continuous outflow of the indigenous Turkish Cypriot population from the northern part of the island. Their number decreased from 118 000 in 1974 to an estimated 87 600 in 2001. In consequence, the settlers outnumber the indigenous Turkish Cypriot population in the northern part.

5. In the light of the information available, the Assembly cannot accept the claims that the majority of arriving Turkish nationals are seasonal workers or former inhabitants who had left the island before 1974. Therefore it condemns the policy of “naturalisation” designed to encourage new arrivals which was introduced by the Turkish Cypriot administration with the full support of the Government of Turkey.
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