The EU and Turkey: Stronger together

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Jan 1, 2013
 
Rachel wrote:
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TC you racist moron.
The turks are masters at elimenating other peace loving humans that don't call themselves turks. Which is why you will never be accepted into either Europe or any other modern society.
Just in case it escaped your notice, the Kurds that you so revile are a fundamental part of the turkish state.
As with your previous posts, earthquakes etc (all turks seem to have this ingrained in them), the kurds are lesser humans than turks and you would rather that they were eliminated.
You blame them for all the bad things that happen in your country, when the overwhelming evidence is that your own government is heavily involved in drug smuggling to the West.
Most of all, your clear racist bias, identifies you as a turk and not a turkish Cypriot.
Happy New Year to you :-)
R
You got some f@cking front dont you? Greeks are the most racist nation on EARTH, who are you f@cking kidding?
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Jan 1, 2013
 
US Observer wrote:
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You got some f@cking front dont you? Greeks are the most racist nation on EARTH, who are you f@cking kidding?
Wanker
Rachel

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Jan 1, 2013
 
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You got some f@cking front dont you? Greeks are the most racist nation on EARTH, who are you f@cking kidding?
Really?????????

Where have all the Christians in turkey dissapeared to?
Considering that they were in the vast majority 100 years ago and there are now a big fat ZERO left, says much about your "secular" (lol) "tolerent" house of cards.

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Jan 1, 2013
 
Here is an article I read some where , admitting there isn't many Christians left in Turkey

Christianity in Turkey

Since up to 98 percent of the population are Muslims, Christians are obviously a minority religion in Turkey. Because it is a secular country, the only Muslim country in the world that has no state religion, the Constitution guarantees religious freedom, and tolerance is the rule. The population includes members of the Armenian Apostolic and Greek Orthodox churches, Roman and Eastern Catholics, and Jews. Today, approximately 120,000 Christians and 26,000 Jews live in Turkey, out of 73 million of the total population.

Dispute continues, however, over what part Islam should have in Turkish life. It is one of the most controversial issues in Turkey today, and may at some point alter whether Turkish society is organized on a secular or religious basis.

After the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, many of the early Christians, escaping from persecutions in Jerusalem, came to Asia Minor and settled in different cities like Ephesus, Hierapolis and Cappadocia. St. Paul preached in Perge, Derbe, Lystra, Psidian Antioch, Ephesus (see Letter to Ephesians) and Konya. St. John stayed for a while in Ephesus together with Virgin Mary and, after he returned from Patmos where he was exiled, died in Ephesus. St. Peter settled in Antioch and build the first Christian church carved in a cave. St. Philip settled in Hierapolis but was killed together his family by the Romans.

Christianity was declared as the official religion in 380, during the reign of Theodosius I, and destruction of pagan temples was legalized. Even so, throughout the Byzantine era Christianity had great ups and downs in popularity. Many found the road to piety confusing and assorted schisms between the Roman Catholic church and the Orthodox Byzantine church certainly didn't simplify matters. Add this inter-faith bickering to the "Dhimmi" tax (50 percent of earnings for non-Muslims as opposed to the tithing for Muslim believers) for those living on Ottoman-held lands, no wonder large numbers of peasants converted their faith to Islam. Islam was also a relatively simple path to follow - profess belief in One God and the mission of his Prophet Muhammed, and follow the Five Pillars of Faith.

Gradually, Christianity in Turkey disintegrated, so that when the Islamic Ottomans finally conquered the Byzantine Empire, it was inevitable that what had been a predominantly Christian region would be no more.

Another important fact for Christians is that first Ecumenical Councils were made at Nicea (Iznik today) in the Marmara Region of Turkey, between Bursa and Istanbul.

But Greeks are funny in that way.
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Greeks are Funny thatway wrote:
Here is an article I read some where , admitting there isn't many Christians left in Turkey
Christianity in Turkey
Since up to 98 percent of the population are Muslims, Christians are obviously a minority religion in Turkey. Because it is a secular country, the only Muslim country in the world that has no state religion, the Constitution guarantees religious freedom, and tolerance is the rule. The population includes members of the Armenian Apostolic and Greek Orthodox churches, Roman and Eastern Catholics, and Jews. Today, approximately 120,000 Christians and 26,000 Jews live in Turkey, out of 73 million of the total population.
Dispute continues, however, over what part Islam should have in Turkish life. It is one of the most controversial issues in Turkey today, and may at some point alter whether Turkish society is organized on a secular or religious basis.
After the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, many of the early Christians, escaping from persecutions in Jerusalem, came to Asia Minor and settled in different cities like Ephesus, Hierapolis and Cappadocia. St. Paul preached in Perge, Derbe, Lystra, Psidian Antioch, Ephesus (see Letter to Ephesians) and Konya. St. John stayed for a while in Ephesus together with Virgin Mary and, after he returned from Patmos where he was exiled, died in Ephesus. St. Peter settled in Antioch and build the first Christian church carved in a cave. St. Philip settled in Hierapolis but was killed together his family by the Romans.
Christianity was declared as the official religion in 380, during the reign of Theodosius I, and destruction of pagan temples was legalized. Even so, throughout the Byzantine era Christianity had great ups and downs in popularity. Many found the road to piety confusing and assorted schisms between the Roman Catholic church and the Orthodox Byzantine church certainly didn't simplify matters. Add this inter-faith bickering to the "Dhimmi" tax (50 percent of earnings for non-Muslims as opposed to the tithing for Muslim believers) for those living on Ottoman-held lands, no wonder large numbers of peasants converted their faith to Islam. Islam was also a relatively simple path to follow - profess belief in One God and the mission of his Prophet Muhammed, and follow the Five Pillars of Faith.
Gradually, Christianity in Turkey disintegrated, so that when the Islamic Ottomans finally conquered the Byzantine Empire, it was inevitable that what had been a predominantly Christian region would be no more.
Another important fact for Christians is that first Ecumenical Councils were made at Nicea (Iznik today) in the Marmara Region of Turkey, between Bursa and Istanbul.
But Greeks are funny in that way.
You wholy miss the point, your "secular" turkey, persecuted and removed a Christian majority in the last 100 years. There are now a scared and oppresed handfull left.

Just how racist is that?

Secular is but an empty word in turkey, your country is as racist and fundamentalist as any other crazy muslim state.

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What a load of crap.
I suggest that you read it ten times over, then may be you may believe it yourseld.
The inaccuracies are too many to bother to correct and the excuses you give are pittyfull. As for the facts is a mastery of deception, lies and misrepresentation.
Are you a serious person to suggest that so many Christians were in Turkey, after the crucifiction.... There was no Turkey then in the cities you mention. Those places were Greek. Turkey did not even exist then. You seem to skip the time factor whenever it suits you.
Do you want to know he real reason why there are no christians today in Turkey in just two words? Persecution and supression!
Secular state, my foot. Only on paper.
In a country of more than eighty million all you have to show are 120.000 Christians and 26.000 Jews and you present this as an arqument that Turkey is a secular state hosting all kinds of religions? It is one thing to believe that you are smart but it is quite another thing to think that you are talking to idiots incapable of using their brains.
There is only one idiot here and you know him!
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BBC........20 December 2012
Greece's treatment of migrants shameful, says Amnesty.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-207937...
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Jan 2, 2013
 
Tc In London wrote:
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THE HEROIN IN THE UK IS NOT FROM TURKS BUT FROM KURDS
FINANCING THE PKK GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT
LOOLOLOLOL WHY is there a KURDSkurdistancountry or does it come from TURKSturkeycountry--------- http://www.ahmp.org/nyt39.html
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Jan 2, 2013
 
Observer wrote:
"Tc In London"
THE HEROIN IN THE UK IS NOT FROM TURKS BUT FROM KURDS
FINANCING THE PKK GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT
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Do not tell me that your friends tried to pin on you something as bad when you had absolutely nothing to do with it.
How clever to blame the Kurds for anything bad when anything good is credited to the Turks.
Besides, I remember reading in here by one of you that more than 85% of Kurds are assimilated and feel like Turks. You better make up your mind what the Kurds are. Turks, like all of you or grass growing scum that are shaming Turkey all over the world?
You really do not thing much of the Kurds do you.
If Turkey had nothing to do with drugs and it was only the Kurds that grew them, how do the drugs find their way to the rest of Europe? Would that have been possible with no help from within the Turkish government?
By the way, the US state department report does mention about the extreme corruption within the Turkish officials who make the trafficking to Europe possible.
Happy New Year.
------ http://www.ahmp.org/nyt39.html
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#32
Jan 3, 2013
 
London Observer wrote:
Turkey should demand from EU, lazy scavengers and crooks must be kicked out of EU before Turkey joins the Union
Right no lazy scavengers and crooksTurkey does not need any competition

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