Was Battle of Vukovar one of the bigg...

Was Battle of Vukovar one of the biggest Croatian pride in last century

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Ante

Sarnia, Canada

#1 Jan 5, 2013
...what does it matter whether Vukovar was a source of Croat pride, when you have quisling Serbian politicians such as Stevo Mesic, Zoran Milanovic, Vesna Pusic, girly-man Ivo Josipovic et al all trying to bring back the old "Jugoslavia"? If Serbia had these kind of politicians, the Serbian Orthodox priests would have them killed! But the Roman Catholic pizda priests say NOTHING! Good luck Croatia- the 3rd Jugoslavia!
Tito the Great

Tarragindi, Australia

#2 Jan 5, 2013
Ante wrote:
...what does it matter whether Vukovar was a source of Croat pride, when you have quisling Serbian politicians such as Stevo Mesic, Zoran Milanovic, Vesna Pusic, girly-man Ivo Josipovic et al all trying to bring back the old "Jugoslavia"? If Serbia had these kind of politicians, the Serbian Orthodox priests would have them killed! But the Roman Catholic pizda priests say NOTHING! Good luck Croatia- the 3rd Jugoslavia!
There is no Jugoslavija & there never will be a 3rd. Jugoslavija,

so get over youreself ustaski seljak
Tito the Great

Caroline Springs, Australia

#3 Jan 6, 2013
Ante wrote:
...what does it matter whether Vukovar was a source of Croat pride, when you have quisling Serbian politicians such as Stevo Mesic, Zoran Milanovic, Vesna Pusic, girly-man Ivo Josipovic et al all trying to bring back the old "Jugoslavia"? If Serbia had these kind of politicians, the Serbian Orthodox priests would have them killed! But the Roman Catholic pizda priests say NOTHING! Good luck Croatia- the 3rd Jugoslavia!
Stipe mesic, zoran milanovic, vesna pusic & predsjednik Josipovic are o.k. croats, they are not perfect & they made a few mistakes like handing over croatian War Heroes to the Hage War Crimes Tribunal & allowing gay parades in croatia because of presure from the E.U.

you got to understand that unfortunately croatia is a small country & its going to get pushed around especially when it joins the E.U. in the middle of this year.

Too bad Tito is not alive to stop it all. Tito would of prefered the middle-ground rather than commit to east or west.

croatia needs another man of tito's charisma to re-unite croatia with bosnia & it cant be done based on religion but only under a people's democracy ( socialism )

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#4 Jan 7, 2013
Tito the Great wrote:
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croatia needs another man of tito's charisma to re-unite croatia with bosnia & it cant be done based on religion but only under a people's democracy ( socialism )
Pavelic united Croatia and Bosnia.

Just saying...

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#5 Jan 7, 2013
Ante

Sarnia, Canada

#6 Jan 7, 2013
Tito the Great wrote:
<quoted text>Stipe mesic, zoran milanovic, vesna pusic & predsjednik Josipovic are o.k. croats, they are not perfect & they made a few mistakes like handing over croatian War Heroes to the Hage War Crimes Tribunal & allowing gay parades in croatia because of presure from the E.U.
you got to understand that unfortunately croatia is a small country & its going to get pushed around especially when it joins the E.U. in the middle of this year.
Too bad Tito is not alive to stop it all. Tito would of prefered the middle-ground rather than commit to east or west.
croatia needs another man of tito's charisma to re-unite croatia with bosnia & it cant be done based on religion but only under a people's democracy ( socialism )
..."Josip Broz Tito"was a Stalinist plant and not an ethnic Croatian or Slovenian anyway! He couldn't speak any language of the former Jugoslavia well!
In the 1960's, Jugoslavia was collapsing and John Kennedy (who was a poor president as one journalist stated should be remembered only for being shot) gave Tito over $200 million (!) dollars (equivalent to $2 billion in today's currency) so as prop up his regime. Jugoslavia's economy was collapsing so this monster needed money or he claimed would go to the Soviet side! This was trick as he the leader of the non-aligned nations along with Gamel Nasser and Nehru!
The serbians only used this "Tito" as a figure head, as most of the decisions were done by Serbian generals! In the 1966, Alexander Rankovic and Jovanks Budislajevic tried to stage a coup and abolish Tito! They would then implement a purely "Serbian" Jugoslavia and expel the Croats, Bosnians, Albanians and totally "serbianize" the Montegrins and Macedonians!
They would then have a pure "serbianized" version of Jugoslavian envisioned by King Alexander and Peter II!
Jugoslavia was designed to be controlled from the center by the serbs, and that's why the Croats and Bosnians were 2nd class citizens and the break-up of Serboslavia started! Stipe Mesic, Josipovic,Milanovic et al have to relise that they are being used as usefull idiots and they never would be presidents of Jugoslavia anyway! General v. Kadijevic stated in a book that Mesic approached him in 1990 to have Slobodan and Tudjman killed so as to set himself up as president of Jugoslavia! But these dummies should know that serbian majority would never let that happen!
Tito the Great

Tarneit, Australia

#7 Jan 7, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
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Pavelic united Croatia and Bosnia.
Just saying...
Puppet pavelic was placed in power by leaders of the 3rd. Reich & Neo-Roman Empire ( Hitler & Mussolini )

Croatia became a Sattalite State of Germany & Italy.

Both Croatia & Bosnia were imediately divided in two by Germany & Italy

Western Croatia incl. Bosnia ( N.D.H.) came under Italian Military & Political Administration
Eastern Croatia incl. Bosnia (N.D.H.) came under German Military & Political Administration

hence reason for German, italian & hungarian occupation forces on Croatian soil.

When Mussolini was ousted in a coup d'ete in Sept. 1943 all of Croatia incl. Bosnia came under direct German Administration.

Pavelic & his Ustasi appointed parliament were just German plants ( puppets ) on a string that aquired 70,000 SS ustasi troops ( formaly exiles ) as regieme body guards & elite back-up troops for the Hrvatski Domobrani ( Croatian Regular Army)

N.D.H. translated in english : Independent State of Croatia , was a miss-leading title as WW2 Croatia totaly depended on its survival on Hitler's Germany & Mussolini's italy. it lacked any credability, as soon as the Nazi Germans pulled out of croatia puppet pavelic & his elite SS ustasi troops knew they couldnt rely on the Croatian population to help keep them in power, as most croats & the croats of the Regular Croatian army joined Tito's Z.A.V.N.O. in droves
Tito the Great

Tarneit, Australia

#8 Jan 7, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi kipedia/commons/3/38/Nezavisna DrzavaHrvatskaDistricts1943.pn g
as that map indicates, large tracks of Croatian Slavonia were signed over to Hungary, Istria remained firmly in Mussolini's Northern Italian Puppet STate.

when mussolini was overthrown in Sept.1943 the Dalmatian lands & islands that he evacuated came under German Military control as the local Croatian populace wouldnt accept Pavelic's Ustasi presence.

Eventualy even the Germans evacuated these Dalmatian lands as Z.A.V.N.O. Croatian
partizani under Tito's blessing liberated more Dalmatian land
NIKOLA

Pyrmont, Australia

#9 Jan 7, 2013
Tito the Great wrote:
<quoted text>There is no Jugoslavija & there never will be a 3rd. Jugoslavija,
so get over youreself ustaski seljak
Cowardly croats arguing with each other on croat Forum???

Thanks for the Christmas Present you Primative Peasants...

Svaka vam Cast!

HRISTOS SE RODI...
ZAVNOH

Kellyville, Australia

#10 Jan 7, 2013
Ante wrote:
<quoted text>..."Josip Broz Tito"was a Stalinist plant and not an ethnic Croatian or Slovenian anyway! He couldn't speak any language of the former Jugoslavia well!
In the 1960's, Jugoslavia was collapsing and John Kennedy (who was a poor president as one journalist stated should be remembered only for being shot) gave Tito over $200 million (!) dollars (equivalent to $2 billion in today's currency) so as prop up his regime. Jugoslavia's economy was collapsing so this monster needed money or he claimed would go to the Soviet side! This was trick as he the leader of the non-aligned nations along with Gamel Nasser and Nehru!
The serbians only used this "Tito" as a figure head, as most of the decisions were done by Serbian generals! In the 1966, Alexander Rankovic and Jovanks Budislajevic tried to stage a coup and abolish Tito! They would then implement a purely "Serbian" Jugoslavia and expel the Croats, Bosnians, Albanians and totally "serbianize" the Montegrins and Macedonians!
They would then have a pure "serbianized" version of Jugoslavian envisioned by King Alexander and Peter II!
Jugoslavia was designed to be controlled from the center by the serbs, and that's why the Croats and Bosnians were 2nd class citizens and the break-up of Serboslavia started! Stipe Mesic, Josipovic,Milanovic et al have to relise that they are being used as usefull idiots and they never would be presidents of Jugoslavia anyway! General v. Kadijevic stated in a book that Mesic approached him in 1990 to have Slobodan and Tudjman killed so as to set himself up as president of Jugoslavia! But these dummies should know that serbian majority would never let that happen!
You are very funny stateing that Tito couldnt speak, yet all of Yugoslavia understood him perfectly.

Dont forget you ustasa seljak, Jozo Broz Tito was brought up in a Multi - Lingual family - Croat/Slovene, & Jozo was also brought up in a multi - lingual Empire - Austria- Hungary where many people spoke a little bit of everything - german, hungarian, polish, czech, slovak croat, slovene, etc., etc.. Jozo also spent alot of his time away from Croatia & his family & his mother tongue because of WW1 & being stuck as a ww1 P.O.W. in Russia for many years.

so under all these overwhelming circumstances it is not highly unusual that his mastery of the Serbo-Croat language wasnt perfect, neither is mine, my Croatian parents think i sound like a Makedonac when i try to speak Croatian which isnt my 1st. language, as english is.

There are many people who speak the croat language & mumble it, so much its hard to understand them.

As for the rest of youre conspiracy tirade on Tito, youre post doesnt deserve any further responce from me.
NIKOLA

Pyrmont, Australia

#11 Jan 7, 2013
ZAVNOH wrote:
<quoted text>You are very funny stateing that Tito couldnt speak, yet all of Yugoslavia understood him perfectly.
Dont forget you ustasa seljak, Jozo Broz Tito was brought up in a Multi - Lingual family - Croat/Slovene, & Jozo was also brought up in a multi - lingual Empire - Austria- Hungary where many people spoke a little bit of everything - german, hungarian, polish, czech, slovak croat, slovene, etc., etc.. Jozo also spent alot of his time away from Croatia & his family & his mother tongue because of WW1 & being stuck as a ww1 P.O.W. in Russia for many years.
so under all these overwhelming circumstances it is not highly unusual that his mastery of the Serbo-Croat language wasnt perfect, neither is mine, my Croatian parents think i sound like a Makedonac when i try to speak Croatian which isnt my 1st. language, as english is.
There are many people who speak the croat language & mumble it, so much its hard to understand them.
As for the rest of youre conspiracy tirade on Tito, youre post doesnt deserve any further responce from me.
I have often said not all Croats are bad and not all Serbs are angels. A well written post with plausible ideas... Bravo...

Svaka ti Cast & Happy New Year to you
from
NIKOLA PETROVIC & Family
Proud to be an Australian Citizen, Blessed to be born a Crnogorac

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#12 Jan 7, 2013
Wtf are you talking about, large parts of Slavonia went to Hungary??
No they didn't.
ZAVNOH

Kenthurst, Australia

#13 Jan 8, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
Wtf are you talking about, large parts of Slavonia went to Hungary??
No they didn't.
Dear Madjar , check todays current map of Croatia & compare it to the map of WW2 Croatia that you have provided & you will see the difference

It doessnt take a Geography Major to tell the difference

A large part of North West part of Slavonia bordering Slovenia was assigned over to you Madjari , courtacy of Pavelic & a large part of North Eastern Slavonia bordering Vojvodina was also assigned to you Madjari, courtacy of Pavelic & his ustasi regieme.

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#14 Jan 8, 2013
A large part? Liar, prekumurje and Medimurje, that is not large. THese were formely Hungarian lands that were never part of the Croatian side of the Kingdom.

Vojvodina is and always was Hungarian.
NIKOLA

Pyrmont, Australia

#15 Jan 8, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
A large part? Liar, prekumurje and Medimurje, that is not large. THese were formely Hungarian lands that were never part of the Croatian side of the Kingdom.
Vojvodina is and always was Hungarian.
Vi Madjari ste pun Kurve, Jevreja i Cigani...FACT...

Vojvodina is in SERBIS...FACT....

Your Not a Magyar, ti si Obican Pedercina...FACT

You are a Laughing Stock of both Serbia & Croatia Forums...FACT

Since: Jan 13

Rosedale, Australia

#16 Jan 8, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
A large part? Liar, prekumurje and Medimurje, that is not large. THese were formely Hungarian lands that were never part of the Croatian side of the Kingdom.
Vojvodina is and always was Hungarian.
I dont think you are a real Hungarian, your a serb.
ZAVNOH

Melbourne, Australia

#17 Jan 9, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
A large part? Liar, prekumurje and Medimurje, that is not large. THese were formely Hungarian lands that were never part of the Croatian side of the Kingdom.
Vojvodina is and always was Hungarian.
It is besides the point that prekumurje & medimurje are relatively small parcels of land which today they are apart of croatia, the point is that puppet pavelic assigned these two regions over to Greater Hungary in 1941, which he had no right to.!!!!!!

Tito re-incorporated prekuumurje & medimurje back into the croat state in 1945.!!!!!

Vojvodina is a different story & a more complicated issue.

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#18 Jan 9, 2013
ZAVNOH wrote:
<quoted text>It is besides the point that prekumurje & medimurje are relatively small parcels of land which today they are apart of croatia, the point is that puppet pavelic assigned these two regions over to Greater Hungary in 1941, which he had no right to.!!!!!!
And those same regions were assigned to Yugoslavia in 1920 by the Greater Powers, which they had no right to. You win some, you lose some.

Croatia gained much more land than it lost during WW2.
ZAVNOH wrote:
<quoted text>Tito re-incorporated prekuumurje & medimurje back into the croat state in 1945.!!!!!
Vojvodina is a different story & a more complicated issue.
The original plan for prekuumurje was it to remain as an autonomous area within Hungary. But our communist 1919 goverment fkced it up.

And what Croat state in 1945? You mean Yugoslavia?
NIKOLA

Pyrmont, Australia

#19 Jan 9, 2013
Parastam wrote:
<quoted text>
I dont think you are a real Hungarian, your a serb.
Please, we have our Own Idiots, he is NOT one of them hahaha
ZAVNOH

Brisbane, Australia

#20 Jan 10, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
<quoted text>
And those same regions were assigned to Yugoslavia in 1920 by the Greater Powers, which they had no right to. You win some, you lose some.
Croatia gained much more land than it lost during WW2.
<quoted text>
The original plan for prekuumurje was it to remain as an autonomous area within Hungary. But our communist 1919 goverment fkced it up.
And what Croat state in 1945? You mean Yugoslavia?
Croatia post ww2 was a Federal State, People's Republic & lastly a Socialist Republic

Yugoslavia was nothing without the 6 Socialist Republis & 2 autonomous provinces that made up Yugoslavia incl. youre precious Vojvodina !!!!!

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