Illiria are not albanian!

Illiria are not albanian!

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hero

Perth, Australia

#1 Jun 22, 2008
It's wrong think like that!
So many tribe of Illiria
Dalmatians daorsi liburnia...
In AD 634 Heraclius invited the Chrovates or Chrobati(Ancestors of the Croats who lived on the
north side of the Carpathians in what is now Southern Poland ( Galicia)..
Titus was in Dalmatia in time of St. Paul..
Daorsi are near Stolac Hercegovina..
We are Croats..not muslim turkish or Serbs..
Serbs are around river morava ..on thats time of illiria is been Macedonian tribe not Serbs..Serbs and muslim in bosna are Croatian heretige!..They didn't know who they are ..with deceptive propaganda alwayes take or posess Croatian history and Croatian land..Britanica is wrong and anticroat history..Its wrong and shame!
God bless you America!
God bless you Croatia!
UCK Forever

Carluke, UK

#2 Jun 23, 2008
hero wrote:
It's wrong think like that!
So many tribe of Illiria
Dalmatians daorsi liburnia...
In AD 634 Heraclius invited the Chrovates or Chrobati(Ancestors of the Croats who lived on the
north side of the Carpathians in what is now Southern Poland ( Galicia)..
Titus was in Dalmatia in time of St. Paul..
Daorsi are near Stolac Hercegovina..
We are Croats..not muslim turkish or Serbs..
Serbs are around river morava ..on thats time of illiria is been Macedonian tribe not Serbs..Serbs and muslim in bosna are Croatian heretige!..They didn't know who they are ..with deceptive propaganda alwayes take or posess Croatian history and Croatian land..Britanica is wrong and anticroat history..Its wrong and shame!
God bless you America!
God bless you Croatia!
Do you Serbs, Bosniaks, Croats actually know what the word ilir means??? I guess not. Only Albanians can translate it and the meaning in english is 'ilir = free'. I feel so sorry for you croats who forgot who you are but instead have been slavisized over the centuries. You croats live in the land which ones used to be called the illyrian kingdom . Even your region names carry illyrian names like pula (means chicken), dalmatia (in illyrian 'delme'= sheep') etc etc. Thats why Albanians went to fight for whole of Croatia because it is even a holy land for us Albanians, too. We have much in common together but you have forgotten who your ancestors are. Although most of us Albanians had to accept unwilling the islam religion due to the force against us we are still those Christians who carried this religion for over thousands of years. However, we never gave up our true language, culture, traditions and habits etc. That means a lot. We are proud very proud to be part of the illyrian tribes, called the 'DARDANIANS'. Peace.
hero

Perth, Australia

#3 Jun 23, 2008
Who care want you think Albos?
Sheep better then wolf!
Shepherd much better!
It's peace and holy simbol!
Daorsi are in Hercegovina! Croat land!
Liburia in Croatia!
Dalmatia in Croatia!
Look also Dubrovnik and tree Lio!
Look in simbol of Herceg Kosaca Stjepan ..Lio!
Look in simbol of King Tomislav duvno Croat!
Look Hrvoje Herceg Croat!
Look Kings Kresimir zvonimir Trpimir..Croat!
Look Zrinski..Croat!
Look Katarina Kotromanic born kosaca Herceg..Catolic Croat!
No Albanians friends you people not come in my country! Remember that God upon all of us!
Jesus and Mary too..Jesus is Kings of all Kings!
God prepare evrything front of us! Like river
when go in and out!Virgin Mary know why she chose Croatian people! I also know whats that means!
Nothings very importent be rich or famous!
Its only importent belived faith and love jesus and God!

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#4 Jun 23, 2008
its true illyria streched as far north as croatia even solvenia. the only difference is that the ony authentic illyrian tribe which did not get slavonized and assimilated is albanians of today,perfect example being the unique illyrian albanian language.
blame serbian hordes for that and inability to cope with the slavic invasion.since albanians resisted and never got assimlated in face of countless invasions by greeks, romans, slavs and turks, forget religion it has nothing to do with suevival of a tribe,etc and were able to retain and survive shows there is still illyrian blood flowing in the world, the resiliance of albanians and their invincibibility.
UCK Forever

Carluke, UK

#5 Jun 23, 2008
hero wrote:
Who care want you think Albos?
Sheep better then wolf!
Shepherd much better!
It's peace and holy simbol!
Daorsi are in Hercegovina! Croat land!
Liburia in Croatia!
Dalmatia in Croatia!
Look also Dubrovnik and tree Lio!
Look in simbol of Herceg Kosaca Stjepan ..Lio!
Look in simbol of King Tomislav duvno Croat!
Look Hrvoje Herceg Croat!
Look Kings Kresimir zvonimir Trpimir..Croat!
Look Zrinski..Croat!
Look Katarina Kotromanic born kosaca Herceg..Catolic Croat!
No Albanians friends you people not come in my country! Remember that God upon all of us!
Jesus and Mary too..Jesus is Kings of all Kings!
God prepare evrything front of us! Like river
when go in and out!Virgin Mary know why she chose Croatian people! I also know whats that means!
Nothings very importent be rich or famous!
Its only importent belived faith and love jesus and God!
But, there are already thousands of Albanians living in Croatia. I am very surprised that you actually do not know much about your own history? Are you a Croat or what? You have Albanians living in Dalmatia, Zadar etc. They live there for over a thousand year, these people are called 'Arbanasi' and they are peaceful. I dont know what your problem is. Chill out, man! LOL.
hero

Perth, Australia

#6 Jun 23, 2008
ha ha UK..I just tell you before ''so many tribe''
I am not angry or make rasist point!
Just try tell you ..why everybody have have much more rights in Croatia then Croat?
UCK Forever

UK

#7 Jun 23, 2008
hero wrote:
ha ha UK..I just tell you before ''so many tribe''
I am not angry or make rasist point!
Just try tell you ..why everybody have have much more rights in Croatia then Croat?
Albanians are on Croatia's side, hero as we always were. You or the bosniaks are simply not my enemy, BUT the SERBS are. Peace to you.
cippi

Basel, Switzerland

#8 Aug 28, 2008
are you stupid or what??
do you know the history of the Balkan? i think , NO.
ALbanian People are Illyirans, the whole world know that!!!!!!
Yip

Thornbury, Australia

#9 Aug 29, 2008
If Albanians are Illyrian,then maybe they should call themselves Illyrian!
max

Carmel, NY

#10 Aug 29, 2008
dalmatinci pushed out all other illyian tribes and plundered other tribal areas,they were not part of illyrian kingdomhttp://en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Dalmatae
max

Carmel, NY

#11 Aug 29, 2008
Yip

Australia

#12 Sep 5, 2008
UCK Forever wrote:
<quoted text> Albanians are on Croatia's side, hero as we always were. You or the bosniaks are simply not my enemy, BUT the SERBS are. Peace to you.
Can someone tell me, why there was a country called Albania centuries ago near Armenia???
How can indigenous Illyrians have a country called Albania near Armenia???
Arn't Illyrians supposed to be indiginous???
Only Answer:They are two different people.
See_the_Truth

Athens, Greece

#14 Mar 26, 2009
-Albanian Academic Professor Dr. Kaplan Resuli-Burovich:

"the Albanian professors consciously hide the truth about the origins of the Albanians and, instead truth, to their pupils and students they serve up the lies about their autochthony and illyrian origin.This is not done accidentally, but with the aim to incite the Albanians against the neighbouring nations,

-Ardian Vebiu
famous Albanian historian writes:
My personal opinion is that the issue of Albanians descending or not from Illyrians doesn't deserve the interest it has traditionally aroused. There is absolutely NO Illyrian cultural legacy among Albanians today. In a certain sense, Illyrians (with their less fortunate fellows, the Pelasgians) are a pure creation of Albanian romanticism.

Illyrians disappeard!In the first decades under Byzantine rule (until 461), Illyria suffered the devastation of raids by Visigoths, Huns, and Ostrogoths. Not long after these barbarian invaders swept through the Balkans, the Slavs appeared. Between the 6th and 8th centuries they settled in Illyrian territories and proceeded to assimilate Illyrian tribes in much of what is now Albania, Kosovo, FYROM, Montenegro, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, and Serbia.So no conection between albania and Illyria!

Farther more there is no archeological foundations or historical facts that contact the albanian language with Illirian language!Modern albanian language is a compination of Turkish,Hellenics,Latins and Slavi words!

"Is there someone who believes that Illyians have a relation with Albanians?"According to "&#913;rchaeologic Institute of America":

Volume 60 Number 4, July/August 2007
..While Kosovar and Albanian archaeologists, historians, and even laymen continue to expound on the Illyrian connection, most foreign historians are reluctant to make a direct link between modern Albanians and a Bronze Age people. "Archaeology can be interpreted in so many ways," said Birte Brugmann, a German archaeologist who's worked in Kosovo since 2004. "The emotional side of the thing is not very well thought through and has resulted in this origins myth." ...

http://www.archaeology.org/0707/etc/kosovo.ht...

At leasts dear alabos u mut leave your ethnicistic view.The universal communite have gave u the anwsers!
chefAnton

Inverness, FL

#15 Jun 8, 2009
Dear People of Croatia and their Friends
Please stop using profanities to espress your opinions and please remember that Albanians have been Christians 700 years before the Croats and Serbs tthey whare not allways muslim .Serbian "Archeologists and Profesors"alway tryed tho bend and hide the truth about Ilirian -conection to the most Ilirian roots of Albanians ,Dalmatians.Hercegovs and Montenegrins whoos Catholic churches ware wrongfully and forcefully changed to Orthodox style this Profesor cant full no one the name is a givaway ,Burovich Albanian...?as real as Franjo Tudjman was Serbian Bishop
Croat from London

Europe

#16 Jun 25, 2009
Thank you See_the_Truth from Greece, glad to read some logical facts!!
Albanian 'identity' has only woken up in the last 100 years, and they seem to be claiming to have more heritage and history then us Croats for example!! It just makes us all laugh!
Albanians have no written history, no cultural heritage or anything else which connects them with anything to do with Illyria, but instead everything about them points in the direction of the Turks. When the Turks were effectively stopped from getting any further then half way into the Balkan peninsula, some of their mercenaries and other troups settled along the area of today's Albania, hence why we have these peeps around today.
No wonder there is so much confussion about their origin and heritage since they just appeared at one point, and it didn't help that they started mixing up with existing nations around them such as Serbs, Macedonians, MonteNegrians etc, which is why some of them look similar in appearance to the above mentioned ethnic groups.
All of their biggest names which are ever mentioned in the history connect with the Turks, and they are obviously very strongly connected with them.
Hopefully they will realise this one day and stop 'guessing and making up' their own history!
unutter

Watford, UK

#17 Jun 25, 2009
Croat from London wrote:
Thank you See_the_Truth from Greece, glad to read some logical facts!!
Albanian 'identity' has only woken up in the last 100 years, and they seem to be claiming to have more heritage and history then us Croats for example!! It just makes us all laugh!
Albanians have no written history, no cultural heritage or anything else which connects them with anything to do with Illyria, but instead everything about them points in the direction of the Turks. When the Turks were effectively stopped from getting any further then half way into the Balkan peninsula, some of their mercenaries and other troups settled along the area of today's Albania, hence why we have these peeps around today.
No wonder there is so much confussion about their origin and heritage since they just appeared at one point, and it didn't help that they started mixing up with existing nations around them such as Serbs, Macedonians, MonteNegrians etc, which is why some of them look similar in appearance to the above mentioned ethnic groups.
All of their biggest names which are ever mentioned in the history connect with the Turks, and they are obviously very strongly connected with them.
Hopefully they will realise this one day and stop 'guessing and making up' their own history!
what does 'croat from london' mean?
Illyrian

Toronto, Canada

#18 Aug 7, 2009
wtf u talking about moron, THE ALBANIANS ARE THE ILLYRIANS!, from Kosova, Monenegro, Albania, Sicilia, Calabria, Macedonia, Chameria, these are all albanian lands!! get your f**** facts straight and stop making bs seem real! The albanian language is the most unique in the world, i know how jelouse u greeks are of us but live with it and stop munupulating our f**** history into making urs!
Lukashenko is Dr Phil

Tampere, Finland

#19 Aug 7, 2009
cippi wrote:
are you stupid or what??
do you know the history of the Balkan? i think , NO.
ALbanian People are Illyirans, the whole world know that!!!!!!
But now you are poor as dirt because of Hoxha hahahahah

Since: Jan 09

Albania

#20 Aug 8, 2009
Croat from London wrote:
Thank you See_the_Truth from Greece, glad to read some logical facts!!
Albanian 'identity' has only woken up in the last 100 years, and they seem to be claiming to have more heritage and history then us Croats for example!! It just makes us all laugh!
Albanians have no written history, no cultural heritage or anything else which connects them with anything to do with Illyria, but instead everything about them points in the direction of the Turks. When the Turks were effectively stopped from getting any further then half way into the Balkan peninsula, some of their mercenaries and other troups settled along the area of today's Albania, hence why we have these peeps around today.
No wonder there is so much confussion about their origin and heritage since they just appeared at one point, and it didn't help that they started mixing up with existing nations around them such as Serbs, Macedonians, MonteNegrians etc, which is why some of them look similar in appearance to the above mentioned ethnic groups.
All of their biggest names which are ever mentioned in the history connect with the Turks, and they are obviously very strongly connected with them.
Hopefully they will realise this one day and stop 'guessing and making up' their own history!
Sorry but you say things what you have to say to yourself.
LOL who started mixing with serbs and montenegrins?
Albanians or croatians? Why do you think serbs and montenegrins hate us? we are the purest which dont have NOTHING from them. what language you talk ? You know that many people around the world identify you like catholic serbs.
Whats your point? you hate albanians because our population is 70% muslims and 30% christians.?
Simply i dont give a damn about haters,i/we dont hate your country,when you know many albanian soldiers fought in your army to liberate your country and get independence.You dont have enough force and dont feel enough strong to be against people who hate you and are jealous of you, you know what i mean.We fought much more against turks than some others who did un-human things to keep something.Thats why Albania is prefered on its position by international community more than some others here because if wasnt scanderbeg army ,ottoman empire would enter Italy,Austria and west europe.

Since: Jan 09

Albania

#21 Aug 8, 2009
Lukashenko is Dr Phil wrote:
<quoted text>
But now you are poor as dirt because of Hoxha hahahahah
Poor? when you were in albania last time 1991? yes all countries were like that in this region.
So what if poor? better poor and clean. no mixing.with genociders.

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