Since: Feb 13

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#4529 Sep 22, 2013
Hey Joe(et al),
I agree with you in that this site is most effective as a research tool if people are willing to share procedures AND prices.WHY? Because dental work is NOT FREE.

A word to the wise(or to those wishing to become so): DO NOT SELECT A DOCTOR/CLINIC BASED UPON WHAT YOU ASSUME ABOUT SOMEONE ELSE'S FINANCIAL CIRCUMSTANCES. Once a doctor/clinic is selected, our plans are now governed by other factors; most of which are affected(in whole or in part) by our OWN financial situation.

Likewise, if a person is posting here and is shy, leary, overy private or whatever about sharing the costs of their procedures or estimates, remember that you are only being asked to share dental finances and NOTHING ELSE.

If you still are apprehensive about public sharing, then please register and let others know that you are willing to share privately AND when you have made that offer, do not take forever to respond. You have now become part of a person's research process and you could possibly be hindering someone from making a more informed decision. Don't do that.

Thanks for listening and "Do unto others...."

Woody66

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#4530 Sep 22, 2013
spieker and Dave,

Thanks for your latest input.

Dave,
There are people(probably a lot) who do not have as much detail about materials, procedures, and the itemized costs of the same for a number of reasons; primarily because we don't know to ask and doctors traditionally have not shared because of our ignorance or fear or perhaps just because of cultural conditioning.

Hopefully people don't shy away from posting because they feel that they will be judged for not being totally on top of the dental world; but, at the same time look at questioning and researching as a RIGHT as well as a responsibility.

Bottom line: We all need to do our research.

Thanks,

Woody66

“www. SmilingAtLast. Com”

Since: Jun 11

The Triangle, NC

#4531 Sep 22, 2013
Hey, I got my Private Message "mail" icon back! It's visible to everyone else but you.... Duh!

And I changed my Hometown so it wouldn't show "Chicago, Ill." anymore. It seems that the location in black font is the "Hometown" specified in the settings, but the location in blue font must be the location of the Internet provider.

My sister had some "bonding" done on eight front teeth:$275/tooth, if I remember correctly. The bonding material was applied to the *front* surface of each tooth to color it, not to the top of the tooth to make it taller. I think that this is the procedure Speiker had, though he called it "resin" or "build-up".

There's another procedure called "build-up" that is sometimes useful when placing a crown over a natural tooth. The dentist applies the bonding material to the tooth "prep" itself to make it taller to hold the crown better. I think this was $100/tooth.

“www. SmilingAtLast. Com”

Since: Jun 11

The Triangle, NC

#4532 Sep 22, 2013
Woody: You are certainly right that many folks aren't aware of all of the details of their dental work. Even so, they can still provide useful information on this board by posting about what they *do* know. Some folks are very sensitive to things like the dentist's "bedside manner" or the feel of the clinical experience. Let them talk about these things.

If the outcomes are good, readers are free to contact the poster and the dentist and say that they want the same materials/procedures for which a particular previous patient paid $xxx for. The dentist will know the details of the treatments of each of his patients.

It is up each reader not to confuse apples and oranges when comparison-shopping among dentists. But I trust Topix readers to know this; I think they're pretty sophisticated. If they weren't, they'd be back Googleing "Dentists in Costa Rica" <press: magnifying-glass icon>.

Since: Mar 10

San José, Costa Rica

#4533 Sep 22, 2013
hi all,

just an answer on cost ... i am a cavallini client and fan and although i think his prices are posted on hs website, aestheticdentistrycr.com here's what i paid.

in 2008, 5 years ago, i had 10 implants, 24 crowns, a full gum-reshaping, delicate 2 & 1/2 hour oral surgery that required an experienced prosthodontist (which dr.cavallini is) not just an implantologist, one graft to ensure positive outcome (the 2 sinus lifts other dentists including my u.s. dentist said were necessary were totally unnecessary in my case. they were just padding their bills, something cavallini doesn't do!) a normal extraction, all cat scans, 3-d xray scans incrementally during the work, cad-cam, he saved 6 teeth that had been slated for removal by my u.s. prosthodontist, 2 night bite guards, incredible TLC, 100% guarantee at no extra cost, etc., with a total cost in 2008 of $10,500 which would translate to about $12,500-13,000 today.

all materials used were top notch according to the u.s. ADA and the Colegio in costa rica. dr. cavallini is the most experienced prosthodontist and implant specialist according to the records. his onsite lab is one of the best anywhere with all cutting edge equipment that is the newest and latest plus technicians who are highly trained and expert. this saves a lot of time and makes for a better outcome. and, yes, he uses only the best materials.

i'm sure that's why, now...5 years later when i've come back for my checkup this month, the scans showed everything was still a-ok and those 5-year old implants are still in perfect shape.**I** should be in as excellent shape as my mouth! it's going to outlast me by years, i suspect!

so that shows the cost. the cool thing was that now, 5 years later, when i came back, they knew who **I** was. it was very nice to be ME, not the checkup in room 4 or the root canal in room 6. how many dentists do you know about whom you can say that!

now off to the soccer game!
jerry6665@yahoo.com
lilmsnoitall

Aiken, SC

#4534 Sep 22, 2013
How can one search this forum?

“www. SmilingAtLast. Com”

Since: Jun 11

The Triangle, NC

#4535 Sep 22, 2013
Jerry: Thanks for that info. Now I can play some math games. If an implant+crown costs 2.5 times as much as a crown-on-natural-tooth, then you paid $270 per crown-on-natural-tooth back in 2008 and $675 for each implant-plus-crown. And at today's price of $13,000, you'd pay $333 for a regular crown and $833 for each implant-plus-crown.

These estimates assume that your dentist just threw all the other work in "for free". I know that isn't true, so that the actual prices would probably be lower than my rough estimates. Unless you got quantity or cash discounts. Etc. Etc.(I assume that your crowns were porcelain-on-base-metal (mercury amalgam), though I could be wrong on that too.)

The point is this, folks:

==========
DENTISTRY IN COSTA RICA IS A BUYER'S MARKET!!!
==========
You have the whip hand in negotiations with dentists. The trick is to *not* leap at the first website you stumble upon. Instead, do some research and find the dentist whose prices, quality, service and intangibles meet YOUR OWN SPECIFIC needs. No one particular dentist can be best for everyone.

So what are you waiting for? Get started!

-dave

Since: Jul 13

Marietta, GA

#4536 Sep 22, 2013
To search this forum, you need to use Google. Enter the following in the Google search box, replacing the term at the end in quotes with your search term:

site:www.topix.com/forum/world /costa-rica/THGCO47LHH1FS7DR7 “ms K”

“www. SmilingAtLast. Com”

Since: Jun 11

The Triangle, NC

#4537 Sep 22, 2013
SEARCHING HINTS
========

lilmsnoitall:

I tried once using the Topix search box on the upper right, but didn't have much luck with it.

I actually prepared a long post showing how to search the web for some actual C.R. dentists. My searches often returned "interesting" (unflattering) web results.

I was going to post my search strings and some of the results, but soon thought better of it. For one thing, the Costa Rican libel laws are draconian by U.S. standards. They would allow legal action in cases that no U.S. court would ever consider. And since I might want to visit C.R. again some day, I decided not to put myself on anyone's radar. I could see how dentists might not be flattered to see their names linked to public complaints.

I will give you some hints on doing your own searches in a minute. But the other thing I need to mention is so glaringly obvious that I could easily overlook it. And that is the fact that talking with actual patients will give you more specific information than web searches. Posters on this forum don't--and can't--post everything we know. We don't like mentioning names for ethical reasons (and also because we don't want to be sued in a C.R. court). But in response to specific questions, we can usually get the important information across. I prefer to communicate by phone, rather than email exchanges. So, reach out to posters here.

The other reason why talking to/emailing real patients is better than web searching is that folks typically post negative reviews on dentists ONLY when the results were disastrous. If the results are merely ho-hum, or there were just a few minor problems along the way, the patient won't even bother to write a post. But they will gladly spill the beans if you get them on the phone. Ask the clinic for references, or give them your own contact info.

Even though personal contacts are a better way to vet dentists, web searches are quicker and easier and can be a useful screening tool.

Back to searching hints.(NOTE: This post updates and REPLACES my previous posts on searching, including p. 178:#3650-51.)

You can use either Google or Bing for searches. Recently, I've been using Bing a lot because it seems to extract the context better on the Search Results page.

The trick is to use "SITE:" to specify the forum. If the dentist has a distinctive name, you can sometimes get by with something simple:

site:www.topix.com uniquedentistname Costa Rica

Note: There is no space after the colon in "site:".
Adding the terms "Costa Rica" (no quotes needed, capitalization unimportant) narrows the search to Topix pages mentioning Costa Rica.

You will often have to play games. If the dentist has a common name, say "Smith", narrow down the search to web pages featuring the word "Dentist" or "Dental":

site:www.topix.com smith costa rica (dentist OR dental)

NOTE: The parentheses are required, as is the keyword "OR" which *must* be in all caps.

You will often need to launch several searches to find all the mentions.

If the dentist goes by different spellings, or if his clinic name is different than the dentist's name, you can use an OR..OR..OR clause, enclosed in parentheses. Confusing, I know. It looks like this:

site:www.topix.com
(smith OR smyth OR smithe OR "Great Smiles")
costa rica (dentist OR dental)

I put this on three separate lines, but it belongs on a single line in Bing or Google. "Great Smiles" is in quotes because it is a fixed phrase: "great" appears immediately before "smiles".

You can also try the search without the "site:xxx" term and let the search engine scan the whole web. This often works surprisingly well.

Don't overlook the reviews on Trip Advisor. An example for my Dr. Prada:

site:www.tripadvisor.com prada
costa rica (dentist OR dental)

Lastly, if you use these hints to search Topix for "Anglada" or "Cavallini OR Cavalini OR Marco", you are going to hit almost every page in the forum.

Good luck!

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#4538 Sep 22, 2013
PICTURES OF TEETH

A visual presentation of "Before and After" teeth is a strong motivator in 2 respects:
1. It prompts one to go ahead and get started
2. It prompts one to make a choice of dentist based upon perceived final results.
3. It prompts one to eliminate some dentists in some cases

VETERANS OF "TEETH WARS"

Do you have your before and after x rays and/or pictures of your teeth?

Have newbies asked you for pictures and you said you "lost" them, the doctor has them and you don't, you don't know how to send them, or you just didn't bother to reply?Are you ashamed of your "befores" and they conveniently "do not exist"?

What's the point? If we are happy and are proud of our new temps or perms, why are there not more of us offering to display the good work; especially on the "show" teeth and even more so on those of us who are having full restorations? Maybe we are sending visuals, but are only doing so through private email requests. Do you feel that offering up visuals is a vital part of "paying it forward"?

What are your thoughts in this regard? If we have procedures, materials, and prices, do we also need to see teeth as well?

Woody66

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#4539 Sep 22, 2013
Side note:

Before deciding to get implants, I considered dentures. If you read the post of "Kelly, Mount Pleasant, MI" here, you will understand why I could not go that route. And her rendition was only one of many that made me forget dental work for almost 2 years.

http://www.topix.com/forum/health/dentures/TA...

Woody66
spieker

Concord, Canada

#4540 Sep 23, 2013
Thank you for that Woody66, For a long time I thought that was my only option too, until I decided to look elsewhere. I am so glad I did, and I can't wait to go back to have the project finished.

Since: Sep 13

Concord, Canada

#4541 Sep 23, 2013
Chicago Dave wrote:
On second thought, it would probably be better to quote the "implant" and "crown on implant" separately, if you would. There are probably choices for each.
Dave, here are the separate quotes, before the 5%discount. sinuslift and bonegraft $1500,
implant (Zimmer brand)$850, crown on implant (porcelain)$650, crown on natural root $550, veneer, porcelain,$ 400, resin one surface (lower front teeth)$50, and resin posterior composite-3surface $75.
As I said the 5% discount applies when paying cash, he also accepts money orders or certified ch.and considers that cash.

“www. SmilingAtLast. Com”

Since: Jun 11

The Triangle, NC

#4542 Sep 23, 2013
Thanks for "registering", Spieker. That will allow folks interested in Dr. Mario Garita to contact you directly as a reference.

You don't have to answer this, but do you know what type of crowns you (will) have?(It seems that most folks don't know.) Common choices are E.MAX, porcelain-fused to-base-metal, porcelain-fused to-precious-metal (gold/platinum), or solid gold (for molars). Porcelain-fused to-zirconia used to be a popular choice, but I think it's been supplanted by E.MAX. My crowns are Prettau "full-contour" (solid) zirconia, but this formulation is not common.

"Porcelain" crowns (often: porcelain-fused to-base metal) are the least expensive, but I for one would not want any base metals in my mouth. Sorry, if I've offended anyone. Gold is very pricey nowadays.
jerry6665

San José, Costa Rica

#4543 Sep 23, 2013
Chicago Dave wrote:
Jerry: Thanks for that info. Now I can play some math games. If an implant+crown costs 2.5 times as much as a crown-on-natural-tooth, then you paid $270 per crown-on-natural-tooth back in 2008 and $675 for each implant-plus-crown. And at today's price of $13,000, you'd pay $333 for a regular crown and $833 for each implant-plus-crown.
These estimates assume that your dentist just threw all the other work in "for free". I know that isn't true, so that the actual prices would probably be lower than my rough estimates. Unless you got quantity or cash discounts. Etc. Etc.(I assume that your crowns were porcelain-on-base-metal (mercury amalgam), though I could be wrong on that too.)
The point is this, folks:
==========
DENTISTRY IN COSTA RICA IS A BUYER'S MARKET!!!
==========
You have the whip hand in negotiations with dentists. The trick is to *not* leap at the first website you stumble upon. Instead, do some research and find the dentist whose prices, quality, service and intangibles meet YOUR OWN SPECIFIC needs. No one particular dentist can be best for everyone.
So what are you waiting for? Get started!
-dave
hiya dave,
you're better at math than i am. i did pay cash(wire transfer) and i think he threw in the bite guards. the tlc came free. and because i am so hard on my teeth (i have horses), you're right, i got the porcelain. i actually fell on my face, hitting a tile floor and bloody nose aside, my mouth suffered NO damage; my teeth didn't even chip.
as i've said many times, and you've said, too, dave, there's a dentist here for everyone, regardless of the client's priorities. no one size fits all.
jerry6665@yahoo.com

Since: Sep 13

San José, Costa Rica

#4544 Sep 24, 2013
Woody66 wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Andy2602,
Is your work finished or do you have to go back to Garita for additional work?
Woody66
Hi, that was for the entire work!

Since: Sep 13

San José, Costa Rica

#4545 Sep 24, 2013
Hello,

Here is my procedure and costs

4 dental implants at $750 each=$3000
4 crowns over implants at $550 each =$2200
8 veeneers at $400 each=$3200
6 crowns over teeth at $650 each=$3900

Total of $12.300

All made by Dr. Mario Garita

“www. SmilingAtLast. Com”

Since: Jun 11

The Triangle, NC

#4546 Sep 24, 2013
Thanks, Andy. Is it possible you switched the prices for the "crowns over implants" and "crowns over teeth"? The former are usually more expensive if the materials are the same. But maybe your dentist prices them differently with the implant.

Do you remember what kind of crowns you have?(See my list of choices above.) I always ask this, and few people know.

I think these prices are interesting, even if no one else does!

Since: Sep 13

San José, Costa Rica

#4547 Sep 24, 2013
Chicago Dave wrote:
Thanks, Andy. Is it possible you switched the prices for the "crowns over implants" and "crowns over teeth"? The former are usually more expensive if the materials are the same. But maybe your dentist prices them differently with the implant.
Do you remember what kind of crowns you have?(See my list of choices above.) I always ask this, and few people know.
I think these prices are interesting, even if no one else does!
Hello:

They gave me a discount, that´s why the crowns were cheaper than the others.

I have porcelain fused to metal crowns.

Since: Sep 13

San José, Costa Rica

#4548 Sep 24, 2013
Also I was checking Dr. Mario Garita's webside and I realize that now they are using a live chat, so if somebody wants to know more about the svcs can use it!

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