Scarborough Shoal Disaster, Manila Po...

Scarborough Shoal Disaster, Manila Politicians & the Blunders of the Century!!!

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Laughing Joyfully

Victoria, Canada

#2 Aug 15, 2012
Mr. Aquino just made us the laughing stock of the world. After a few days confronting the Chinese vessels, our warship turned tail and returned to port, as it had ran out of drinking water, food, or fuel—or all of these.

This is even the worst time for Mr. Aquino to create a flashpoint in our territorial disputes with China. The once-every-decade transition of power in China is ongoing, to be formalized in October at the National Congress of China’s Communist Party, and an intense struggle between two factions has broken out. Each faction will try to appear to be the most nationalistic and most determined in defending China’s sovereignty. Currently, that means a hard-line stance on the Panatag crisis.

Blunder No. 2: Matching the deployment of a warship was our officials’ saber-rattling braggadocio that they will be defending our territory “at all costs.” Mr. Aquino himself set the pugnacious tone months back when he boasted that he would respond to threats in our backyard such as Recto bank “as if it were in Recto Avenue.”
There has been no combat situation in Panatag—at least not yet—and, after our warship left, there are only civilian Filipino and Chinese vessels there. Yet our defense secretary, the Navy chief, even the head of the Northern Luzon Military Command have been blabbering about the dispute with their martial tenor, making us look like the bellicose protagonist.

In contrast, who were speaking for China? Even the Chinese ambassador had the sense to keep her mouth shut. Those who talked publicly were the embassy spokesperson and a political counselor—both among the Chinese’ lowest-ranking diplomats here. In Beijing, it was solely the foreign ministry spokesman who commented on the crisis.(Only recently, after the Chinese felt they already successfully painted the Philippines as the aggressor did a Chinese general and the foreign affairs vice minister comment on the issue.)
How would we feel if the Chinese defense minister or China’s navy chief made belligerent statements when the crisis started?
Laughing Joyfully

Victoria, Canada

#3 Aug 15, 2012
Blunder No. 3: Mr. Aquino has done nothing to repair Philippine-China relationship so that there is practically no venue for good-faith negotiations during such a serious crisis as the Scarborough flashpoint. China has not forgiven Mr. Aquino for failing to prosecute the officials who mishandled the 2010 Luneta hostage crisis in which eight Chinese were killed. Mr. Aquino has snubbed China’s official development aid, even demonizing these as prone to corruption.

Mr. Aquino has not even undertaken the most basic step in improving our relations with China: installing a Philippine ambassador in Beijing. For the Chinese and for the diplomatic community, having only a charge d’affaires in Beijing for so long is a veiled insult.

And why hasn’t he? Because Mr. Aquino insisted on long-time family friend Domingo Lee as envoy. Lee, however, is so comically unqualified that it was Sen. Sergio Osmeña III, a zealous administration man, who passionately fought against his confirmation. It’s been nearly a month since the Panatag crisis broke out; Aquino hasn’t even nominated an envoy to Beijing yet.
Tired of Blunders
#4 Aug 16, 2012
Yes, I concurred.

Aquino made a fool of himself.
#5 Aug 17, 2012
For unknown reasons, part 1 was deleted.

Scarborough fail: How Aquino blew it
By: Rigoberto Tiglao
Philippine Daily Inquirer
2:52 am | Thursday, May 3rd, 2012

Solid as our territorial claims against China are, we could lose these areas if President Aquino keeps making colossal blunders on this front.
Blunder No. 1: The biggest, and the damage done probably irreparable until we get somebody else to represent our nation: Mr. Aquino deployed a warship, the BRP Gregorio del Pilar, to Panatag (Scarborough) Shoal to confront the Chinese fishermen, with naval soldiers even boarding their vessels.

With this move, Mr. Aquino made the Philippines the party militarizing the dispute. The Chinese must be thanking the President for giving them the higher moral ground in this crisis. It gave the hawks in the Chinese leadership all the ammunition they need to demand military action in Panatag.

The Chinese have squeezed every ounce of this blunder, claiming that a “Philippine warship harassed helpless Chinese fishermen who were seeking refuge from a storm inside Scarborough Shoal. It is the Philippine Navy that pointed their guns at our fishermen,” the Chinese embassy spokesman kept repeating.

The People’s Republic of China’s navy is known to be secretly but extensively patrolling the South China and West Philippine Seas. Yet China has never openly deployed naval ships in confrontations in disputed territories, so it wouldn’t be accused of militarizing the dispute. The vessels that went to Panatag to defend the fishermen weren’t even their “naval militia,” but—at least overtly—unarmed surveillance vessels of China’s Oceanic Administration and fisheries department.

Was Mr. Aquino hallucinating that BRP Gregorio del Pilar, our only real warship, was a mighty battleship that he can scare the Chinese away with?


#6 Mar 31, 2013
That is how I responded to the biased comments posted in another thread about the Filipino economy by Crystal, a Vancouver-based Filipino nut.

My comments:

You guys love to slander other races for your own gains or to cover your own weaknesses.

Many of you are not honest and know no shame. You are so racist and yet you are too eager to portray yourselves as victims of racism and discrimination. I know you guys well because I had dealt with Pinoys all the time before I left Singapore.

Why don't you look at the cruelty of some of your people and find out what they have done in Sabah. Yet many of you forgive the terrorists because you are blinded by your greed for land.

Why don't you look at the slums in your own country. Murder, child prostitution, of course of dead ducks and animals, and people living in abject poverty on garbage dumps. Yet you attack other countries, and brag about yourselves.

If your country is so good as you guys say, why do you want to cheat for permanent residency status in such a ridiculously small place called Hong Kong which is crammed of people.

Why the Philippines is creating conflicts with so many places and countries recently - with Malaysia (Sabah), Spratlys (rocks in South China Seas )with Malaysia, China, Taiwan, and Vietnam, and with Hong Kong over Pinoy maids' permanent residency rights.

Of course you are busy badmouthing these countries/city because you do not get what you want. I hear this all the time - racism, discrimination, bullying...against the Philippines and pinoys.

Isn't terrorists attacks launched by some Pinoys early March not the worst kind of bullying?

You are twisting the facts to portray yourselves as victims, and you talk louder than the victims. After the Sabah attack, what did your politicians and media focus on? Sending sympathy to the Sabahan victims? No.

You guys, rather than feeling embarrassed of the attacks and be sympathetic with the victims, launched a global media campaign to slander Malaysia of abusing the human rights of the Sulu terrorists.(Should murderers and terrorists enjoy more human rights than the victims? Where are the rights of the innocent victims?)

I heard not a single word of sympathy from your media and the mouths of politicians. Neither your govt did anything to arrest the kingpin of attacks (Kiram III). You are too busy of portraying yourselves a victims, and land grabbing, and have ignored the innocent victims in Sabah.

If you think you are so civilised, why don't you look at this incident below? Your behavior demonstrated in this incident is the same as that during the Sabah terrorist attack. Unbelievable!
Old Jew

San Francisco, CA

#7 Mar 31, 2013
Can the Pinoys actually administered and run the China seas? If they can China will gladly give it to them bc it takes money, manpower and know how and perhaps sacrifice of human lives to run those areas, it is full of pirates lurking.

Beijing, China

#8 Mar 31, 2013
Old Jew wrote:
Can the Pinoys actually administered and run the China seas? If they can China will gladly give it to them bc it takes money, manpower and know how and perhaps sacrifice of human lives to run those areas, it is full of pirates lurking.
don't speak for China ,your idiot.
CHINA does not need CCP

Surrey, Canada

#9 Mar 31, 2013
Old Jew wrote:
Can the Pinoys actually administered and run the China seas? If they can China will gladly give it to them bc it takes money, manpower and know how and perhaps sacrifice of human lives to run those areas, it is full of pirates lurking.
Then China should gladly give it back to them. End of problem.
It is Amazing

Cheras, Malaysia

#10 Apr 1, 2013
CHINA does not need CCP wrote:
<quoted text>
Then China should gladly give it back to them. End of problem.
Give them back???

But why?

Does it belong to them in the first place?
atilla the Han


#11 Apr 1, 2013
confucius said,"every stars in the constellation knows its place, even the sun spins around planet earth in a predictive manner day in day out. pinoys to plant bananas day in and day out in this infinite universe." (confucius 551bc-479bc)

Edmonton, Canada

#12 Apr 2, 2013
Philippines' allegations and behavior do not add up.

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