1904 China map admits Paracel, Spratl...
dirty dinks

Beaverton, OR

#64 May 16, 2014
I can read wrote:
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Ahh.
So all you chinese chaps will be surrendering again and bowing to your mongolian masters?
uh no, we're not like the scots
dirty dinks

Beaverton, OR

#65 May 16, 2014
SpongeBob wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, right on. I wish during 80s I could serve in North Front of VN instead of lurking along Thai border, chasing Polpot Forces. When most of my best buddies were airlifted to the North, all PLAs disappeared like...thin air. Otherwise there would be more PLA corpses laying around in Vietnam, NOT JUST MORE THAN 60THOUSANDS OF CASUALTIES WITHIN LESS THAN A MONTH IN CONFLICT. Wahahahaha!
stop lying, u were getting butt raped by khmers
McQuan

London, UK

#66 May 16, 2014
-TheExam- wrote:
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The link is a credible source since it comes from Pakistan.
Pakistan credible?!!! That is a first.

“To be or not to be”

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#67 May 16, 2014
McQuan wrote:
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Pakistan credible?!!! That is a first.
Pakistan is probably the only ally China has. So their information about this matter is credible. In the UK Pakistani and Indians are not very welcome but for China it's their best ally.
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE

Richmond, Canada

#68 May 16, 2014
-TheExam- wrote:
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Pakistan is probably the only ally China has. So their information about this matter is credible. In the UK Pakistani and Indians are not very welcome but for China it's their best ally.
you forget Russia... who is trying to take land from another country right... now...

Russia and China have become quite the partners now
McGold

Montréal, Canada

#69 May 16, 2014
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE wrote:
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you forget Russia... who is trying to take land from another country right... now...
Russia and China have become quite the partners now
Russia has been isolated by the Americans in Europe so they will trade more with China. But the 2 countries will never get along together. Stalin never liked Mao nor the Chinese and Mao didn't like the Russians. Next years things will become better in Ukraine and Russia will be on good terms again with the rest of Europe. Why ? because Europe needs Russian gas.

If war starts in the East sea, things will be bad for every one in that area. But China will lose much more because it has 1.4 billion people to feed. World economy is not good for 2014 and may not be good for 2015 and since Chinese economy is export oriented this will have a great impact on China as people will buy less and less. 300 million migrants in China will lose jobs and will have to go back to rural areas where they have their hukou. Without jobs they might revolt against the government especially if they have to go to war against the Philippines or against Vietnam, Japan, Taiwan ...etc.. Not a bright future isn't it?
McQuan

London, UK

#70 May 16, 2014
-TheExam- wrote:
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Pakistan is probably the only ally China has. So their information about this matter is credible. In the UK Pakistani and Indians are not very welcome but for China it's their best ally.
Paki and Indian not welcome in UK!!?? They are everywhere here, how did they get here then? What we don't like is the uncontrolled immigration, not just against Indian or Pakistani. We also don't like Muslims who come too UK to organise terror activities.

For China, it is all about trade, throughout all it 5000 years of history, just like the Persian. Hence they are helping other developing countries, so that trade volume can increase. However it does not mean it will not hit back if its interest is threatened or violated.
McQuan

London, UK

#71 May 16, 2014
McGold wrote:
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Russia has been isolated by the Americans in Europe so they will trade more with China. But the 2 countries will never get along together. Stalin never liked Mao nor the Chinese and Mao didn't like the Russians. Next years things will become better in Ukraine and Russia will be on good terms again with the rest of Europe. Why ? because Europe needs Russian gas.
If war starts in the East sea, things will be bad for every one in that area. But China will lose much more because it has 1.4 billion people to feed. World economy is not good for 2014 and may not be good for 2015 and since Chinese economy is export oriented this will have a great impact on China as people will buy less and less. 300 million migrants in China will lose jobs and will have to go back to rural areas where they have their hukou. Without jobs they might revolt against the government especially if they have to go to war against the Philippines or against Vietnam, Japan, Taiwan ...etc.. Not a bright future isn't it?
You think Russia will back down because of those feeble sanctions? Russia as a big country needs to defend its interest, just like what American is doing all over the world, and perhaps also with emerging China, get use to the new world order.

Besides Russia has the support of the people in south and east Ukraine, not to mention Crimea, there is virtually nothing the west can do. If US can support rebels everywhere, when can't Russia in his own backyard?
Zhongguo Geming Jun

Peru, IN

#72 May 16, 2014
McQuan,

Please be advised that China is well prepared to survive a Nuclear First strike from any country. China prepared decades for a Nuclear Showdown with the USSR and has built all the necessary redundancies - secret underground infrastructure - etc. Also China has a credible Second Strike capability. China can withstand strikes against her population centers.

Also any potential adversaries should be very worried given the fact that China is far more willing to make the necessary sacrifice (loss of population centers) then the other nations. Individual happiness and economic well being is meaningless next to the health of one's country. Each individual alone has little value but together then can form an impregnable great wall.

China has a very strong and stable political system. The existing CPC system enjoys overwhelming support. It is China which stands on the strongest and most firm ground. For example, the western nations are not willing to sacrifice major population centers over the unification of Taiwan.

This being said, China stands for world peace and justice. She only defends what is rightfully Chinese Territories are nothing more. China pursues a policy of peaceful reunification with the Province of Taiwan.
China pursues a purely defensive rather than offensive foreign policy.

China the No. 1 advocate and bulwark of peace and stability in the Asia Pacific region. China is the No. 1 Protector of East Asia.
Gengis khan

Palmerston North, New Zealand

#73 May 17, 2014
you stupid commie 50center.
This being said, China stands for world peace and justice. She only defends what is rightfully Chinese Territories are nothing more. China pursues a policy of peaceful reunification with the Province of Taiwan.
China pursues a purely defensive rather than offensive foreign policy.

China the No. 1 advocate and bulwark of peace and stability in the Asia Pacific region. China is the No. 1 Protector of East Asia.
What a load of $hit, you are a traitor to the Chinese people. The commies aim 1200 missiles at our TAIWAN and promise to flood the island in the blood of our women and children, if we resist.
And you say this is a peaceful way???
Don't worry you filthy commie swine, china will never own TAIWAN... never
Taiwanese

Lane Cove, Australia

#74 May 17, 2014
Gengis khan wrote:
you stupid commie 50center.
This being said, China stands for world peace and justice. She only defends what is rightfully Chinese Territories are nothing more. China pursues a policy of peaceful reunification with the Province of Taiwan.

And you say this is a peaceful way???
Don't worry you filthy commie swine, china will never own TAIWAN... never
Ni ma de ri ben gui zi Gengis khan, the sick little japanese of Asia, stealing and spying for warmonger Japan. Sick man like you glorify Clas A japanese war criminals with no shame.

Lu ai xi boh?
McQuan

London, UK

#75 May 17, 2014
Gengis khan wrote:
you stupid commie 50center.
This being said, China stands for world peace and justice. She only defends what is rightfully Chinese Territories are nothing more. China pursues a policy of peaceful reunification with the Province of Taiwan.
China pursues a purely defensive rather than offensive foreign policy.
China the No. 1 advocate and bulwark of peace and stability in the Asia Pacific region. China is the No. 1 Protector of East Asia.
What a load of $hit, you are a traitor to the Chinese people. The commies aim 1200 missiles at our TAIWAN and promise to flood the island in the blood of our women and children, if we resist.
And you say this is a peaceful way???
Don't worry you filthy commie swine, china will never own TAIWAN... never
Eh...take your family dispute somewhere else ok? It was mostly Taiwanese factories that got set fire by Vietnamese mobsters, specifically Formosa, Taiwan's Lee ka shing, Wang yong ching ok? Also it is not as if Taiwan has no missiles pointing at Chinese cities... you guys just need to descalate and remove hostility for cross straits peace.
McQuan

London, UK

#76 May 17, 2014
Zhongguo Geming Jun wrote:
McQuan,
Please be advised that China is well prepared to survive a Nuclear First strike from any country. China prepared decades for a Nuclear Showdown with the USSR and has built all the necessary redundancies - secret underground infrastructure - etc. Also China has a credible Second Strike capability. China can withstand strikes against her population centers.
Also any potential adversaries should be very worried given the fact that China is far more willing to make the necessary sacrifice (loss of population centers) then the other nations. Individual happiness and economic well being is meaningless next to the health of one's country. Each individual alone has little value but together then can form an impregnable great wall.
China has a very strong and stable political system. The existing CPC system enjoys overwhelming support. It is China which stands on the strongest and most firm ground. For example, the western nations are not willing to sacrifice major population centers over the unification of Taiwan.
This being said, China stands for world peace and justice. She only defends what is rightfully Chinese Territories are nothing more. China pursues a policy of peaceful reunification with the Province of Taiwan.
China pursues a purely defensive rather than offensive foreign policy.
China the No. 1 advocate and bulwark of peace and stability in the Asia Pacific region. China is the No. 1 Protector of East Asia.
I can agree with many things here. China as a emerging super power needs a defence strategy. Afterall, to avoid a war, one needs to prepare for war. I personally don't see China backing off in defending its territories, so it is best Vietnam find a way to work with China rather than choosing to go to war. Certainly not carrying out ethnic cleansing in its own ground, that is stupid beyond imagination.
hihowareyou

Abbotsford, Canada

#79 May 17, 2014
Indochinese poopy

“To be or not to be”

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#80 May 17, 2014
McQuan wrote:
<quoted text>
Paki and Indian not welcome in UK!!?? They are everywhere here, how did they get here then? What we don't like is the uncontrolled immigration, not just against Indian or Pakistani. We also don't like Muslims who come too UK to organise terror activities.
For China, it is all about trade, throughout all it 5000 years of history, just like the Persian. Hence they are helping other developing countries, so that trade volume can increase. However it does not mean it will not hit back if its interest is threatened or violated.
The UK is not against the Muslims. Maybe you are the only one who is. The Pakis and the Indians are not welcome because they are every where just like the North Africans in France

No ... China is not about trade. China is a closed door no trade country. When Westerners came to China, they asked the Qing emperor if they could do trade with China the Qing said no trade. They refused to buy any thing from the British. They only wanted to sell spices to any one who had silver to pay. The result was that the Qing had heaps of silver and Westerners didn't have any silver. What the Qing didn't know was that Chinese loved to puff opium. That is why opium was made available to the population thanks the British and the Indians.
Andrez Lopez

El Paso, TX

#81 May 17, 2014
McGold wrote:
<quoted text>
Russia has been isolated by the Americans in Europe so they will trade more with China. But the 2 countries will never get along together. Stalin never liked Mao nor the Chinese and Mao didn't like the Russians. Next years things will become better in Ukraine and Russia will be on good terms again with the rest of Europe. Why ? because Europe needs Russian gas.
If war starts in the East sea, things will be bad for every one in that area. But China will lose much more because it has 1.4 billion people to feed. World economy is not good for 2014 and may not be good for 2015 and since Chinese economy is export oriented this will have a great impact on China as people will buy less and less. 300 million migrants in China will lose jobs and will have to go back to rural areas where they have their hukou. Without jobs they might revolt against the government especially if they have to go to war against the Philippines or against Vietnam, Japan, Taiwan ...etc.. Not a bright future isn't it?
Present values and presenting interests change.
McGold

Montréal, Canada

#82 May 17, 2014
Andrez Lopez wrote:
<quoted text>
Present values and presenting interests change.
Lopez ...I think there will be a revolution in China soon. Yunnan, Manchura will become inpedendent. Taiwan will get a seat at the United Nations too.
Andrez Lopez

El Paso, TX

#83 May 17, 2014
McGold wrote:
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Lopez ...I think there will be a revolution in China soon. Yunnan, Manchura will become inpedendent. Taiwan will get a seat at the United Nations too.
You have no idea how 'consolidated' China is today. Try to see things from some China Watchers' point of view, like Evan Osno in his Age of Ambition and his Sinosphere concept.

You will soon find out that 'You think' in the old fashion way.
McGold

Montréal, Canada

#84 May 17, 2014
McQuan wrote:
<quoted text>
Eh...take your family dispute somewhere else ok? It was mostly Taiwanese factories that got set fire by Vietnamese mobsters, specifically Formosa, Taiwan's Lee ka shing, Wang yong ching ok? Also it is not as if Taiwan has no missiles pointing at Chinese cities... you guys just need to descalate and remove hostility for cross straits peace.
This is a big issue for SEA countries and not a family dispute. If Taiwanese factories were damaged it is because of China's expansionism policy in SEA. If the CCP is removed peace will come to the region and no factory will be attacked. No ?
McQuan

London, UK

#85 May 17, 2014
McGold wrote:
<quoted text>
This is a big issue for SEA countries and not a family dispute. If Taiwanese factories were damaged it is because of China's expansionism policy in SEA. If the CCP is removed peace will come to the region and no factory will be attacked. No ?
No, that is like saying you don't like someone, but can't do anything to him so you went to punch his brother or rape his neighbours. Morally does that sound logical to you? I thought you are better than that, how disappointing.

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