Hitler jibe inflames war of words

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Philippine President Benigno Aquino has warned China's efforts to claim disputed territories are like Nazi Germany's before World War II - drawing a fierce Chinese response branding him ignorant and amateurish.

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Jennie PC Chiang

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Mr. Benigno Aquino spoke like a clown, well, and he does look like a clown. I don't think that he knows much about South China sea history, or if he has any territory in the South China Sea in accordance with what the international laws required. Well, maybe he just play dumb.
Historically, China has sufficient evidences to underpin its claims of sovereignty of the South China Sea. Chinese still prevail over other nations Under Modern International Laws as Chinese Kuomintang was first government to establish a physical presence on of the Spratlys following Japanese departure after WWII. Chinese Kuomintang occupants have continued and have not been unchallenged by other countries which is the criteria of modern International maritime Laws.
China and Taiwan,
again, I am a Taiwanese originally, the place which is very secluded country side, only only rice patties, mountains and lakes. My comments are always based on the facts, not politics.
Chinese sovereignty over South China Sea well documented, going back to Sung dynasty (12th Century) and in the records of Chinese navigators during the Qing dynasty (18th century).
Alone among claimants, China is capable of coupling ‘continuous and effective occupation’ of the islands, islets and reefs with a robust modern international law-based claim backed by relevant multilateral and bilateral instruments.
In 1952, Japan renounced all right, title and claim to the Spratly and Paracel Islands to the Republic of China (Taiwan), by way of Article 2 of the bilateral Japan–Taiwan Treaty of Taipei. This treaty followed — and referenced — the territorial renunciations of the Islands by Japan under the 1951 San Francisco Peace Treaty, which had not identified the beneficiary at the time — a treaty that was ratified by both the Philippine and (South) Vietnamese governments. And although neither country is bound by provisions in the bilateral Japan–Taiwan treaty, neither can produce a Spratlys/Paracels cession or reversion clause in their own bilateral treaties with Japan. Rather, their claims are supplementarily based on historical cartography in the case of Vietnam or, for the Philippines,‘historical discovery’ that is (incredibly) of a post-World War II vintage!
Philippines,
The Philippines justifies its claims to the Spratlys principally on discovery of certain islands by Thomas Cloma in 1947. In 1956 Cloma proclaimed the creation of a new island state, Kalayaan/Freedomland, with himself as chairman of its supreme Council. While no government ever recognized the lawfulness of this “state”, Cloma persisted with his claim until 1974, when “ownership” was officially transferred under a “Deed of Assignment and Waiver of Rights” to the Philippine government.
The first official claim by the Philippine government came in 1971, mainly in response to a Philippine fishing vessel being fired upon by Taiwanese forces stationed on Itu Aba Island. The Philippine government reacted by protesting the incident and then asserted legal title by annexing islands in the Spratly group based on Cloma’s claim.
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"The president was merely answering a question with a historical fact."

It seems that the Chinese Communist Party dictatorship is unable to function without its propaganda fantasy world of lies and hate propaganda, just like Nazi Germany. If CCP China has a valid claim to these vast areas of other neighbouring countries, why does the CCP dictatorship FEAR taking it to arbitration? It ios because their claim is as WEAK as the CCP regime itself, and only by crude bully tactics does China have any hope of success......

Pointing out the truth that the unstable and weak Chinese Communist Party regime is too dishonest and useless to deal with is not wrong.
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Aquino's comments were fair and accurate.

Here is a good piece on CCP China's attempt to fake history and bully its neighbours just like Nazi Germany did. Long and detailed, but correct, historically and legally; see:
.http://www.worldaffairsjourna l.org/article/historical-ficti on-china%E2%80%99s-south-china -sea-claims

"Historical Fiction: China’s South China Sea Claims"
....."As far as the “jurisprudence evidence” is concerned, the vast majority of international legal experts have concluded that China’s claim to historic title over the South China Sea, implying full sovereign authority and consent for other states to transit, is invalid. The historical evidence, if anything, is even less persuasive....."
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Mr Aquino - Abe are the heros of Asia
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Jennie PC Chiang wrote:
Mr. Benigno Aquino spoke like a clown, well, and he does look like a clown. I don't think that he knows much about South China sea history, or if he has any territory in the South China Sea in accordance with what the international laws required. Well, maybe he just play dumb.
Historically, China has sufficient evidences to underpin its claims of sovereignty of the South China Sea. Chinese still prevail over other nations Under Modern International Laws as Chinese Kuomintang was first government to establish a physical presence on of the Spratlys following Japanese departure after WWII. Chinese Kuomintang occupants have continued and have not been unchallenged by other countries which is the criteria of modern International maritime Laws.
China and Taiwan,
again, I am a Taiwanese originally, the place which is very secluded country side, only only rice patties, mountains and lakes. My comments are always based on the facts, not politics.
Chinese sovereignty over South China Sea well documented, going back to Sung dynasty (12th Century) and in the records of Chinese navigators during the Qing dynasty (18th century).
Alone among claimants, China is capable of coupling ‘continuous and effective occupation’ of the islands, islets and reefs with a robust modern international law-based claim backed by relevant multilateral and bilateral instruments.
In 1952, Japan renounced all right, title and claim to the Spratly and Paracel Islands to the Republic of China (Taiwan), by way of Article 2 of the bilateral Japan–Taiwan Treaty of Taipei. This treaty followed — and referenced — the territorial renunciations of the Islands by Japan under the 1951 San Francisco Peace Treaty, which had not identified the beneficiary at the time — a treaty that was ratified by both the Philippine and (South) Vietnamese governments. And although neither country is bound by provisions in the bilateral Japan–Taiwan treaty, neither can produce a Spratlys/Paracels cession or reversion clause in their own bilateral treaties with Japan. Rather, their claims are supplementarily based on historical cartography in the case of Vietnam or, for the Philippines,‘historical discovery’ that is (incredibly) of a post-World War II vintage!
Philippines,
The Philippines justifies its claims to the Spratlys principally on discovery of certain islands by Thomas Cloma in 1947. In 1956 Cloma proclaimed the creation of a new island state, Kalayaan/Freedomland, with himself as chairman of its supreme Council. While no government ever recognized the lawfulness of this “state”, Cloma persisted with his claim until 1974, when “ownership” was officially transferred under a “Deed of Assignment and Waiver of Rights” to the Philippine government.
The first official claim by the Philippine government came in 1971, mainly in response to a Philippine fishing vessel being fired upon by Taiwanese forces stationed on Itu Aba Island. The Philippine government reacted by protesting the incident and then asserted legal title by annexing islands in the Spratly group based on Cloma’s claim.
Do you Red Guards ever read any history, or are you still too busy beating up, humiliating, and killing your fellow Chinese?

Lesson 1:
History is recorded, not made up to suit the greed of lying dictatorships.
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CCP is USELESS and DYING wrote:
Aquino's comments were fair and accurate.
Here is a good piece on CCP China's attempt to fake history and bully its neighbours just like Nazi Germany did. Long and detailed, but correct, historically and legally; see:
.http://www.worldaffairsjourna l.org/article/historical-ficti on-china%E2%80%99s-south-china -sea-claims
"Historical Fiction: China’s South China Sea Claims"
....."As far as the “jurisprudence evidence” is concerned, the vast majority of international legal experts have concluded that China’s claim to historic title over the South China Sea, implying full sovereign authority and consent for other states to transit, is invalid. The historical evidence, if anything, is even less persuasive....."
I recommend all who are interested in this read that piece.

We must see the reality:

The Chinese Communist Party debases the people, keeps them crude and ignorant, tells them that injustice and bullying is normal, that corruption and theft are natural, and fills their heads with hateful propaganda nonsense.

Then they insult the people and say "Chinese are too crude and stupid for any participatory form of government and only CCP dictatorship can rule over such cattle".

Dictator Xi Jinping and the National Pathetic Congress have recently confirmed that the CCP intends this sad and deplorable situation to go on forever.

There is no way for the Chinese people to build a better life on the foundation of the diseased and festering Chinese Communist Party.

It is impossible, like building a new house on an open cesspool.

The Chinese people are being led to disaster with lies and bully tactics, just as the Germans were in the 1930's.
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Jennie PC Chiang wrote:
Mr. Benigno Aquino spoke like a clown, well, and he does look like a clown. I don't think that he knows much about South China sea history, or if he has any territory in the South China Sea in accordance with what the international laws required. Well, maybe he just play dumb.
Historically, China has sufficient evidences to underpin its claims of sovereignty of the South China Sea. Chinese still prevail over other nations Under Modern International Laws as Chinese Kuomintang was first government to establish a physical presence on of the Spratlys following Japanese departure after WWII. Chinese Kuomintang occupants have continued and have not been unchallenged by other countries which is the criteria of modern International maritime Laws.
China and Taiwan,
again, I am a Taiwanese originally, the place which is very secluded country side, only only rice patties, mountains and lakes. My comments are always based on the facts, not politics.
Chinese sovereignty over South China Sea well documented, going back to Sung dynasty (12th Century) and in the records of Chinese navigators during the Qing dynasty (18th century).
Alone among claimants, China is capable of coupling ‘continuous and effective occupation’ of the islands, islets and reefs with a robust modern international law-based claim backed by relevant multilateral and bilateral instruments.
In 1952, Japan renounced all right, title and claim to the Spratly and Paracel Islands to the Republic of China (Taiwan), by way of Article 2 of the bilateral Japan–Taiwan Treaty of Taipei. This treaty followed — and referenced — the territorial renunciations of the Islands by Japan under the 1951 San Francisco Peace Treaty, which had not identified the beneficiary at the time — a treaty that was ratified by both the Philippine and (South) Vietnamese governments. And although neither country is bound by provisions in the bilateral Japan–Taiwan treaty, neither can produce a Spratlys/Paracels cession or reversion clause in their own bilateral treaties with Japan. Rather, their claims are supplementarily based on historical cartography in the case of Vietnam or, for the Philippines,‘historical discovery’ that is (incredibly) of a post-World War II vintage!
Philippines,
The Philippines justifies its claims to the Spratlys principally on discovery of certain islands by Thomas Cloma in 1947. In 1956 Cloma proclaimed the creation of a new island state, Kalayaan/Freedomland, with himself as chairman of its supreme Council. While no government ever recognized the lawfulness of this “state”, Cloma persisted with his claim until 1974, when “ownership” was officially transferred under a “Deed of Assignment and Waiver of Rights” to the Philippine government.
The first official claim by the Philippine government came in 1971, mainly in response to a Philippine fishing vessel being fired upon by Taiwanese forces stationed on Itu Aba Island. The Philippine government reacted by protesting the incident and then asserted legal title by annexing islands in the Spratly group based on Cloma’s claim.
HIDING now that you have been called out on your lies?

You CCP lackeys are SO WEAK, it's RIDICULOUS!

Your failure to deal with reality will be the downfall of you CCP, mark my words......

Bye, CCP coward!

HA HA HA HA HA HA!
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Calling Out China's Lawlessness
The U.S. points out that Beijing's claims to the South China Sea don't stand up.

Updated Feb. 11, 2014 10:32 a.m. ET
U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for Europe Victoria Nuland dropped an F-bomb over the European Union last week, but the kerfuffle over her wiretapped conversation should not overshadow the laser-guided munition delivered by her counterpart for Asia, Danny Russel. In testimony before a House subcommittee last Wednesday Mr. Russel challenged Beijing to put up or shut up on the issue of its disputed territorial claims in the South China Sea.

"There is a growing concern," Mr. Russel said after enumerating a long list of Beijing's provocative maritime actions, "that this pattern of behavior in the South China Sea reflects an incremental effort by China to assert control over the area contained in the so-called 'nine-dash line,' despite the objections of its neighbors and despite the lack of any explanation or apparent basis under international law regarding the scope of the claim itself."

The "nine-dash line" Mr. Russel referred to is Beijing's dubious deed of ownership for countless shoals and atolls, a feature of Chinese maps that shows the country's "historical waters." It is copied from a map drawn up by the government of Nationalist leader Chiang Kai-shek in 1947. The dashes enclose roughly 90% of the South China Sea and overlap not only with five other countries' island claims, but also with their exclusive economic zones and continental shelves hundreds of miles away from the Chinese coast.

Under maritime law, "historical waters" can only be claimed under rare and limited circumstances, none of which apply to this vast sea. Mr. Russel was more explicit than any other U.S. official we know of in calling China's claim bogus: "I want to reinforce the point that under international law, maritime claims in the South China Sea must be derived from land features. Any use of the 'nine-dash line' by China to claim maritime rights not based on claimed land features would be inconsistent with international law."

This was already enough to make Beijing go ballistic, but the Assistant Secretary of State went further. In the most diplomatic language, he called on Beijing to either come up with a better argument for its claim or drop it: "The international community would welcome China to clarify or adjust its nine-dash line claim to bring it in accordance with the international law of the sea."

Beijing always endeavors to negotiate on a bilateral basis with each of the other five South China Sea claimants, which would allow it to skate over the sketchy legality of its actions. However, last year Manila defied China's wishes and applied to the United Nations for a tribunal ruling on the dispute after Chinese forces seized Scarborough Shoal from the Philippines in 2012.

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Beijing's next line of defense is to decline to participate in or recognize such proceedings. It keeps the basis of its claims deliberately ambiguous, leaving its rivals unable to challenge them and a tribunal unable to definitively rule against them.

The U.S., however, has seemingly decided to debunk Beijing's nine-dash line argument in the court of international public opinion. Mr. Russel devastatingly pinpointed the key weakness of Beijing's expansive claims. China's purported ownership of all the land in the South China Sea derives from a map showing its territorial waters. Yet one of the most basic principles of maritime law is that territorial waters derive from territory, and not the other way around.

Naturally Beijing's spokesmen and state-run media are furious that somebody has dared to point out that the emperor has no clothes. They denounce U.S. "interference in China's domestic affairs" as "irresponsible" and "not constructive."

China's neighbors have a different concern: Will the U.S. back up its rhetoric with action? At the beginning of this year Beijing unilaterally imposed new rules on fishing in the South China Sea, requiring all boats to seek its permission first. The Japanese newspaper Asahi Shimbun reports that Beijing will soon announce an air defense identification zone over the South China Sea to effectively control the airspace.

China is changing the status quo in the South China Sea with force and the threat of force. Philippine President Benigno Aquino warned last week that the world is appeasing a rising China's unreasonable demands much as it did with Nazi Germany in the 1930s. It's an analogy that is gaining plausibility. Mr. Russel's statements are a small but important marker that the U.S. still remembers its history and won't let Beijing's provocations go unchallenged.
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"The "nine-dash line" Mr. Russel referred to is Beijing's dubious deed of ownership for countless shoals and atolls, a feature of Chinese maps that shows the country's "historical waters." It is copied from a map drawn up by the government of Nationalist leader Chiang Kai-shek in 1947. The dashes enclose roughly 90% of the South China Sea and overlap not only with five other countries' island claims, but also with their exclusive economic zones and continental shelves hundreds of miles away from the Chinese coast.

Under maritime law, "historical waters" can only be claimed under rare and limited circumstances, none of which apply to this vast sea. Mr. Russel was more explicit than any other U.S. official we know of in calling China's claim bogus: "I want to reinforce the point that under international law, maritime claims in the South China Sea must be derived from land features. Any use of the 'nine-dash line' by China to claim maritime rights not based on claimed land features would be inconsistent with international law."

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China own south China sea islet and shoal
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Saying does not make it so.

Haven't you CCP losers learned that yet, after so many stupid failed Chinese Communist Party lies?

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