China cannot forgive CCP crimes again...

China cannot forgive CCP crimes against humanity

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Mirolyuba

Port Moody, Canada

#2 Oct 1, 2012
Unspeakable Crimes

By BARBARA RUDOLPHSunday, June 24, 2001

Mao Zedong's Cultural Revolution was an eruption of ideological fervor, mass hysteria and outright brutality that left an estimated 10 million Chinese dead and ruined the lives of millions more. Now tales of even more horrible excesses from the years between 1966 and 1976 are coming to light: allegations of cannibalism, involving hundreds of men and women who violated mankind's most powerful taboo in the name of revolutionary purity.

Evidence that cannibalism was not only practiced but condoned and even encouraged by some Communist Party officials emerged last week with the arrival in the U.S. of Zheng Yi, a dissident novelist who has been on Beijing's most wanted list since the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre. Zheng, now 45, spent three years hiding in China before escaping to Hong Kong nine months ago. On the run as a fugitive, he managed to recover a number of the secret government reports that he had collected over the years. He used them to document two books, which he and his wife eventually smuggled out of the country.

Prepared in the mid-1980s and suppressed by the authorities, the documents reveal that cannibalism was widely practiced in the late '60s in the Guangxi Autonomous Region in southern China. Acting without the sanction of national party authorities, the documents reveal, several party leaders in Guangxi incited followers to kill "class enemies" and then eat their flesh in public ceremonies. Zheng also conducted his own extensive investigation into the reports of cannibalism. He says he interviewed relatives of victims and spoke with dozens of people who confessed to having eaten human flesh. He insists that his case is persuasive.

There is no evidence that Mao Zedong knew cannibalism was being practiced during the Cultural Revolution. When Premier Zhou Enlai heard about the crimes in Guangxi, he ordered party officials to put a stop to them. Nonetheless, according to Zheng, amid the anarchy of the times cannibalism apparently persisted in Guangxi. "I believe Zheng's story," says Perry Link, a professor of Chinese at Princeton. "He's a writer of integrity, and the rich detail has the ring of authenticity." Chinese officials now disclaim any knowledge of the practice. Said a Public Security official in Beijing: "I've never heard of this."

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Mirolyuba

Port Moody, Canada

#3 Oct 1, 2012
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The atrocities took many forms, according to documents. One report refers to "eating people as an after-dinner snack ...barbecuing people's livers ...banqueting on human meat." The same document matter-of-factly relates specific tales of depravity. "On May 14, 1968," it says, "a group of 11, led by the Wei brothers, captured a man named Chen Guorong and killed him with a big knife before cutting out his liver. They shared the human meat with 20 participants." The same month Wu Shufang, a teacher at the Wuxuan Middle School, was beaten to death; her liver was roasted and eaten. During 1968, 91 members of the Communist Party in Guangxi were expelled on charges that they were involved in cannibalism, but none was severely punished.

Rumors about cannibalistic practices began to surface shortly after the atrocities occurred, but they were squelched by the authorities. Zheng heard the first stories in 1968, when he was a Red Guard in Guilin, in northeastern Guangxi. He was skeptical, but 16 years later, established as a novelist, he asked Liu Binyan, a dissident journalist who now lives in the U.S., if the stories might be true. "Liu told me they were," Zheng recalls, "but he had not wanted to write about them because the subject was so nasty."

The exchange spurred Zheng to try to bring the sordid story to light. Visiting the county of Shanglin, north of Nanning, Zheng found that cannibalism was openly discussed years after the fact. An old man named Yi Wansheng told Zheng, "Yes, I confess everything," and proceeded to describe how he had killed one victim, a landlord's son. "I used a knife to cut him. The first knife was dull, so I threw it away. With another knife I was able to open his chest. But when I tried to pull out his heart and liver, the blood was too hot for my hand and I had to bring some water to cool it. When I took the organs out, I cut them to pieces and shared them with the people of the village."

In the two decades since the end of the Cultural Revolution, most of the great upheaval's excesses have been publicized as part of senior leader Deng Xiaoping's campaign to discredit Maoist orthodoxy. Why have the stories of cannibalism remained under wraps? "Many of the people involved are still in power in Guangxi," Zheng suggests. "Some of those people told me to beware or I might get myself killed." Equally important, he feels, any revelation of the atrocities would be profoundly embarrassing to the Beijing government. "Top leadership has known about it all along," Zheng charges, "but it has not wanted anyone else to know."

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9 ...
Mirolyuba

Port Moody, Canada

#5 Oct 1, 2012
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The atrocities took many forms, according to documents. One report refers to "eating people as an after-dinner snack ...barbecuing people's livers ...banqueting on human meat." The same document matter-of-factly relates specific tales of depravity. "On May 14, 1968," it says, "a group of 11, led by the Wei brothers, captured a man named Chen Guorong and killed him with a big knife before cutting out his liver. They shared the human meat with 20 participants." The same month Wu Shufang, a teacher at the Wuxuan Middle School, was beaten to death; her liver was roasted and eaten. During 1968, 91 members of the Communist Party in Guangxi were expelled on charges that they were involved in cannibalism, but none was severely punished.

Rumors about cannibalistic practices began to surface shortly after the atrocities occurred, but they were squelched by the authorities. Zheng heard the first stories in 1968, when he was a Red Guard in Guilin, in northeastern Guangxi. He was skeptical, but 16 years later, established as a novelist, he asked Liu Binyan, a dissident journalist who now lives in the U.S., if the stories might be true. "Liu told me they were," Zheng recalls, "but he had not wanted to write about them because the subject was so nasty."

The exchange spurred Zheng to try to bring the sordid story to light. Visiting the county of Shanglin, north of Nanning, Zheng found that cannibalism was openly discussed years after the fact. An old man named Yi Wansheng told Zheng, "Yes, I confess everything," and proceeded to describe how he had killed one victim, a landlord's son. "I used a knife to cut him. The first knife was dull, so I threw it away. With another knife I was able to open his chest. But when I tried to pull out his heart and liver, the blood was too hot for my hand and I had to bring some water to cool it. When I took the organs out, I cut them to pieces and shared them with the people of the village."

In the two decades since the end of the Cultural Revolution, most of the great upheaval's excesses have been publicized as part of senior leader Deng Xiaoping's campaign to discredit Maoist orthodoxy. Why have the stories of cannibalism remained under wraps? "Many of the people involved are still in power in Guangxi," Zheng suggests. "Some of those people told me to beware or I might get myself killed." Equally important, he feels, any revelation of the atrocities would be profoundly embarrassing to the Beijing government. "Top leadership has known about it all along," Zheng charges, "but it has not wanted anyone else to know."

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9 ...
Mirolyuba

Port Moody, Canada

#6 Oct 1, 2012

A Tale of Red Guards and Cannibals

By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
Published: January 06, 1993

Newly disclosed confidential government documents suggest that the Cultural Revolution plumbed previously unreported depths of savagery.

The documents, prepared by local government offices in the 1980's, two decades after the events they describe, seem to offer a meticulous record of how Red Guards and Communist officials in one province not only tortured their victims to death but also ate their flesh.

Copies of the documents have been smuggled out of China by Zheng Yi, a prominent writer wanted by the Chinese authorities for his work for the democracy movement at Tiananmen Square in 1989. After three and a half years as a fugitive, Mr. Zheng is to arrive in New York on Wednesday. Some Ugly Details

At some high schools, students killed their principals in the school courtyard and then cooked and ate the bodies to celebrate a triumph over "counterrevolutionaries, " the documents report. Government-run cafeterias are said to have displayed bodies dangling on meat hooks and to have served human flesh to employees.

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"There are many varieties of cannibalism," declares one report, "and among them are these: killing someone and making a late dinner of it, slicing off the meat and having a big party, dividing up the flesh so each person takes a large chunk home to boil, roasting the liver and eating it for its medicinal properties, and so on."

The documents suggest that at least 137 people, and probably hundreds more, were eaten in Guangxi Province in southern China in the late 1960's. In most cases, many people ate the flesh of one corpse, so the number of cannibals may have numbered in the thousands. Found Only in One Province

The cannibalism described in the documents was apparently confined to parts of Guangxi Province, a relatively remote area, and was subsequently kept quiet. There is no evidence that anyone in the national Communist Party leadership endorsed it or even knew of it.

The documents are stamped with official seals, and there is no indication of any tampering. A spokesman for the Guangxi Region Foreign Affairs Office said he could not comment on whether there had been cannibalism and could not allow a reporter to visit the area and investigate directly.

The incidents reported from Guangxi were apparently the most extensive episodes of cannibalism in the world in the last century or more. They were also different from any others in that those who took part were not motivated by hunger or psychopathic illness.
Mirolyuba

Port Moody, Canada

#7 Oct 1, 2012
People's Republic of ChinaMain article: History of the People's Republic of China (1949–1976)

The Chinese Communist Party came to power in China in 1949, when Chinese communist revolution ended a long and bloody civil war between communists and nationalists. There is a general consensus among historians that after Mao Zedong seized power, his policies and political purges caused directly or indirectly the deaths of tens of millions of people.[108][109] Based on the Soviets' experience, Mao considered violence necessary to achieve an ideal society derived from Marxism and planned and executed violence on a grand scale.[110][111]

Land reform and the suppression of counterrevolutionaries

Main article: Campaign to Suppress Counterrevolutionaries
The first large-scale killings under Mao took place during land reform and the counterrevolutionary campaign. In official study materials published in 1948, Mao envisaged that "one-tenth of the peasants" (or about 50,000,000) "would have to be destroyed" to facilitate agrarian reform.[111] Actual numbers killed in land reform are believed to have been lower, but at least one million.[110][112]

The suppression of counterrevolutionaries targeted mainly former Kuomintang officials and intellectuals suspected of disloyalty.[113] At least 712,000 people were executed, 1,290,000 were imprisoned in labor camps and 1,200,000 were "subject to control at various times."[114]

The Great Leap Forward
Main article: Great Leap Forward
Benjamin Valentino says that the Great Leap Forward was a cause of the Great Chinese Famine, and that the worst effects of the famine were steered towards the regime's enemies.[115] Those labeled as "black elements" (religious leaders, rightists, rich peasants, etc.) in any earlier campaign died in the greatest numbers, as they were given the lowest priority in the allocation of food.[115] In Mao's Great Famine, historian Frank Dikötter writes that "coercion, terror, and systematic violence were the very foundation of the Great Leap Forward" and it "motivated one of the most deadly mass killings of human history."[116] His research in local and provincial Chinese archives indicates the death toll was at least 45 million, and that "In most cases the party knew very well that it was starving its own people to death."[117] In a secret meeting at Shanghai in 1959, Mao issued the order to procure one third of all grain from the countryside. He said:“When there is not enough to eat people starve to death. It is better to let half of the people die so that the other half can eat their fill.”[117] Dikötter estimates that at least 2.5 million people were summarily killed or tortured to death during this period.[118]

The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution
Main article: Cultural Revolution
Sinologists Roderick MacFarquhar and Michael Schoenhals estimate that between 750,000 and 1.5 million people were killed in the violence of the Cultural Revolution, in rural China alone.[119] Mao's Red Guards were given carte blanche to abuse and kill the revolution's enemies.[120] For example, in August 1966, over 100 teachers were murdered by their students in western Beijing alone.[121]

from wiki, which is censored in CCP China, of course.
Mirolyuba

Port Moody, Canada

#8 Oct 1, 2012
Some say CCP China is the biggest mass-murderer in human history.

The worst genocides of the 20th and 21st Centuries

Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,000
Adolf Hitler (Germany, 1939-1945) 12,000,000 (concentration camps and civilians deliberately killed in WWII plus 3 million Russian POWs left to die)
Leopold II of Belgium (Congo, 1886-1908) 8,000,000
Jozef Stalin (USSR, 1932-39) 6,000,000 (the gulags plus the purges plus Ukraine's famine)

from:http://www.scaruffi.com/p olitics/dictat.html
Mirolyuba

Port Moody, Canada

#9 Oct 1, 2012
The Legacy of Mao Zedong is Mass MurderBy Lee Edwards, Ph.D.
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More Can you name the greatest mass murderer of the 20th century? No, it wasn’t Hitler or Stalin. It was Mao Zedong.

According to the authoritative “Black Book of Communism,” an estimated 65 million Chinese died as a result of Mao’s repeated, merciless attempts to create a new “socialist” China. Anyone who got in his way was done away with -- by execution, imprisonment or forced famine.

For Mao, the No. 1 enemy was the intellectual. The so-called Great Helmsman reveled in his blood-letting, boasting,“What’s so unusual about Emperor Shih Huang of the China Dynasty? He had buried alive 460 scholars only, but we have buried alive 46,000 scholars.” Mao was referring to a major “accomplishment” of the Great Cultural Revolution, which from 1966-1976 transformed China into a great House of Fear.

The most inhumane example of Mao’s contempt for human life came when he ordered the collectivization of China’s agriculture under the ironic slogan, the “Great Leap Forward.” A deadly combination of lies about grain production, disastrous farming methods (profitable tea plantations, for example, were turned into rice fields), and misdistribution of food produced the worse famine in human history.

Deaths from hunger reached more than 50 percent in some Chinese villages. The total number of dead from 1959 to 1961 was between 30 million and 40 million -- the population of California.
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Mirolyuba

Port Moody, Canada

#10 Oct 1, 2012
..Rounding up enemies

Only five years later, when he sensed that revolutionary fervor in China was waning, Mao proclaimed the Cultural Revolution. Gangs of Red Guards -- young men and women between 14 and 21 -- roamed the cities targeting revisionists and other enemies of the state, especially teachers.

Professors were dressed in grotesque clothes and dunce caps, their faces smeared with ink. They were then forced to get down on all fours and bark like dogs. Some were beaten to death, some even eaten -- all for the promulgation of Maoism. A reluctant Mao finally called in the Red Army to put down the marauding Red Guards when they began attacking Communist Party members, but not before 1 million Chinese died.

All the while, Mao kept expanding the laogai, a system of 1,000 forced labor camps throughout China. Harry Wu, who spent 19 years in labor camps, has estimated that from the 1950s through the 1980s, 50 million Chinese passed through the Chinese version of the Soviet gulag. Twenty million died as a result of the primitive living conditions and 14-hour work days.

Such calculated cruelty exemplified his Al Capone philosophy:“Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.”

And yet Mao Zedong remains the most honored figure in the Chinese Communist Party. At one end of historic Tiananmen Square is Mao’s mausoleum, visited daily by large, respectful crowds. At the other end of the square is a giant portrait of Mao above the entrance to the Forbidden City, the favorite site of visitors, Chinese and foreign.

Repression continues

In the spirit of Mao, China’s present rulers continue to oppress intellectuals and other dissidents such as human-rights activist Liu Xiaobo. He was sentenced last month to 11 years in prison for “inciting subversion of state power.” His offense: signing Charter 08, which calls on the government to respect basic civil and human rights within a democratic framework..

China presents itself as a vast market for U.S. companies and investors. But some U.S. companies are taking a second look at doing business in a country which considers Mao Zedong its patron saint. Google has said it is reconsidering its operations in China after discovering a sophisticated cyber attack on its e-mail which the government must have initiated or approved.

Google has revealed what many in the Internet world have known for some time -- China routinely hacks into U.S. and Western Web sites for national security and other valuable information. Mao would have enthusiastically applauded this intellectual rape.

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Mirolyuba

Port Moody, Canada

#11 Oct 1, 2012
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I wonder: would President Obama be so ready to kowtow to China if in the middle of Beijing there was a mausoleum of Hitler and, hanging from the gate to the Forbidden City, a giant swastika?

Lee Edwards is distinguished fellow in conservative thought at The Heritage Foundation in Washington, D.C., and chairman of the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation. Distributed by McClatchy-Tribune Information Services.

Americans can freely discuss this as they can any topic at all.

But say this publicly in China and you and your family will be murdered by the Chinese Communist Party "goons and thugs" just like they did thirty years ago.

Poor, poor China.
Mirolyuba

Port Moody, Canada

#12 Oct 1, 2012
Tomorrow, we'll discuss CCP "industries" like pimping, drug dealing, and slavery.......
Mirolyuba

Port Moody, Canada

#13 Oct 2, 2012
The CCP runs a cathouse in almost every Chinese town, disguised as a "hairdressers", where it receives a "cut" for pretending that it does not exist!

VERY LUCRATIVE exploitation of the CCP's Chinese slaves for the CCP PIMPS!

See the "20 million prostitutes" thread for more!
Mirolyuba

Port Moody, Canada

#14 Oct 2, 2012
The CCP sell drugs to their own people to fund the failing DPRK regime!
Out of darkness light

Puchong, Malaysia

#15 Oct 4, 2012
In the Black Book of Communism it says 65 million, but you say 70 million. So yyou take the most exaggerated figure ( this would be from The Black Book of...) and exaggerate it even more by five million.

Now exactly did The Cultural Revolution leave 10,000,000 dead? Because the muck raker says so?

So why exaggerate the worst figure by five million? Because you're a liar.
Out of darkness light

Puchong, Malaysia

#16 Oct 4, 2012
Lee Edwards in his book that is almost screaming to get results ' The Legacy of Mao Ze Dong is Mass Murder' cites the one million figure ariiding from the most violent period of the Cuktural Revolution, between 67-9. So where dies theTime jouralist get the other nine milkion?
RayH

Shenzhen, China

#18 Oct 4, 2012
Out of darkness light wrote:
In the Black Book of Communism it says 65 million, but you say 70 million. So yyou take the most exaggerated figure ( this would be from The Black Book of...) and exaggerate it even more by five million.
Now exactly did The Cultural Revolution leave 10,000,000 dead? Because the muck raker says so?
So why exaggerate the worst figure by five million? Because you're a liar.
The "Black Book of Capitalism" said that system killed 100 million. I guess they added in the two world wars, Belgian Congo, Vietnam, etc.
Mirolyuba

Port Moody, Canada

#19 Oct 4, 2012
Out of darkness light wrote:
In the Black Book of Communism it says 65 million, but you say 70 million. So yyou take the most exaggerated figure ( this would be from The Black Book of...) and exaggerate it even more by five million.
Now exactly did The Cultural Revolution leave 10,000,000 dead? Because the muck raker says so?
So why exaggerate the worst figure by five million? Because you're a liar.
Look it up, stupid! Those figures can be found in HUNDREDS OF BOOKS in EVERY LIBRARY IN THE WORLD not located in the CCP China slave-state!

You KNOW that your OBVIOUS COWARDICE and GLARINGLY APPARENT LIES only make you look WEAK, WEAK, WEAK?

Are you "twelve" NOW?

Come, come, nutless CCP lackey China-hater!

ANSWER, DON'T HIDE!

So job #1 is GET RID OF THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY DICTATORSHIP that CENSORS and FAKES information to mislead and deceive the Chinese people!

As you know, the Chinese people cannot be "educated" when CCP "policy" is to KEEP THEM IGNORANT OF THEIR OWN HISTORY!!!!!

You MUST agree that that is ESSENTIAL, unless you are a PAID Chinese Communist Party SCUMBAG, LIAR and TRAITOR TO CHINA!

Note also that your use of terms like "Imperialist West" and "masses" gives away your indoctrination into commie-zombie junk theory! No "Scot" would ever use such Marxist mumbo-jumbo with a straight face, "Comrade"!

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
Out of darkness light

Puchong, Malaysia

#20 Oct 4, 2012
When I was twelve, I would beat you in a debate. Now at least twenty three years on -I I wont debate with you.
Mirolyuba

Port Moody, Canada

#21 Oct 4, 2012
That is only because you are a Chinese Communist Party weakling and will lose and be humiliated.

Just like all the others.

See, people of China, the WEAKNESS and DISHONESTY of these CCP?

HOORAY FOR FREE CHINA!

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