Fear of a Chinese Planet?

[Kylin]

Why_Me wrote:

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Better yet how about you anser my question in my earlier post instead of doing the typical Chines thing and answering a question with another question.
"WHEN IS CHINA GOING TO RELAESE ALL IT'S JOURNALIST FROM PRISON"?

Because you have double standard while you talk about USA and china.

[Why_Me]

Kylin wrote:

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Because you have double standard while you talk about USA and china.

How about you just answer the question.

[Rangzen]

By Tsoltim N. Shakabpa

China is The People's Republic of Terrorism
She instills fear and terror in people
By threatening them with imprisonment
Torture and execution
And imparts dread and appall among small nations
By menacing them with the barrel of a gun
Occupation and expansionism
She inculcates fear and terror among big nations
By imperiling them with her pecuniary power
And sale of nuclear intelligence to the axis of evil
She incites dread and appall among the world
By endangering them with global warming,
Toxic poisoning and extravagant oil consumption

China is
The People's Republic of Terrorism
She instills fear and terror
By suppressing human rights
And imparts dread and appall
By choking freedom of speech
She infuses fear and terror
By crushing religious freedom
And inculcates dread and appall
By squelching any sign of dissent
She drills fear and terror
By subjugating the weak and harmless
And incites dread and appall
By silencing those who oppose her regime

China is truly
The People's Republic of Terrorism

[Frank]

Welsh Patriot wrote:

Right il end this now china though flawed is improving give it some time you cant just wave a magic wand then think everything is better it dont work like that and with the human right give them a few years and i can guarantee you it will be sorted

I agree with you but the problem on this thread is the same problem we have on other threads. When the US or Britain violates human rights it becomes front page news and everyone talks about it, as they should. It is our responsibility in the west to point out our governments wrong doings and we need not hide those transgretions from others. They must be exposed. But whenever we talk about violations in other countries we're accused of spreading propaganda. There is NO political freedom in China. Does that mean I condemn the country as a whole? Of course not but anyone who can't see the truth as to the state of political freedom and journalistic freedom in China needs to get their head out of the sand.

[Frank]

Welsh Patriot wrote:

Right il end this now china though flawed is improving give it some time you cant just wave a magic wand then think everything is better it dont work like that and with the human right give them a few years and i can guarantee you it will be sorted

I would just add that these problems cannot ever be "sorted" unless people are willing to have an honest conversation. As they sayin AA "the first step to recovery is to admit you have a problem".

[Veritas]

Americans take to heart what Bill Clinton said during is inquiry on Monica:

"I DID NOT HAVE A SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP..."

if a bj is not one then I don't know what is.

white people will: when in doubt deny, deny and deny!

[Frank]

Veritas wrote:

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Just how many journalists are in prison? Journalists are allowed to report on certain issues that will not harm the establishment of the government. Any act(s) to cause insurrection is an act of sedition and will be reason for imprisonment.
China is a country of 1.2 billion people. Most are poor would you risk the lives of the majority when the country is on a course to better its people, abeit slowly.
Law and Order must be kept, even though it would seem that it is authoritarion. It's a slow process China is undertaking, but it's improving and progressing to alevel where China can intergrate into the world order of the Western nations.

I don't think I have ever read more foolish comments. I guess you think the folks over at PBS should be imprisoned for their reports on the treatments of prisoners at Gitmo right? If not for that then they should surely be shut down for suggesting that Bush lied to start the Iraq war. Perhaps publications like the Nation magazine should be shut down for calling Bush a "traitor" and slaming US foreign policy? Perhaps we should also ban the Communist party. Perhaps you should be put in prison as anyone who thinks the way you do must surely oppose the government of Canada's position on many issues. Yes we should do away with press freedom and freedom of expression in order to protect the government. Great idea!

[Frank]

Veritas wrote:

Americans take to heart what Bill Clinton said during is inquiry on Monica:
"I DID NOT HAVE A SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP..."
if a bj is not one then I don't know what is.
white people will: when in doubt deny, deny and deny!

White people huh!? And I suppose non whites never lie. You are one of the most foolish posters I have ever encountered. Perhaps you should move to China where the non white folks in the government never "deny, deny, deny" any of their violations of basic human liberties.

[TheDuke]

My fellow Americans....Here's the facts folks:

Right now, according to Good Morning America, it is estimated that in New York City alone there are up to 1 Million illegal Chinese living there.

Since there is no health screening for illegals, 20-25% have Hepatitis, which I understand is both contagious and incurable.

Needless to say, you will never find me a Chinese buffet.

Think about folks. Just a word to the wise.

[Frank]

TheDuke wrote:

My fellow Americans....Here's the facts folks:
Right now, according to Good Morning America, it is estimated that in New York City alone there are up to 1 Million illegal Chinese living there.
Since there is no health screening for illegals, 20-25% have Hepatitis, which I understand is both contagious and incurable.
Needless to say, you will never find me a Chinese buffet.
Think about folks. Just a word to the wise.

This forum is about China. Its not a place for right wingers to spout off their hatred of immigrants. Go away.

[Mirolyuba]

Kylin wrote:

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That'untruth, I can write here shows that we can get informations other countries, you also can read chinese news in your country, but very little, because most of the media was controled by government(both in our side and your side),
....

I think he is calling you "stupid" because you say that media is "state controlled" in the West----and that is a remarkably stupid statement. It is not, and all Chinese news websites are available here, and you can choose to buy CCTV stations as part of your cable TV package, or buy China Daily at the newstand. These sources of news are not popular due to their obvious distortions and stifling dullness, but that is another matter.

Do not spout the obvious lies of your masters to Westerners, and expect them to slavishly accept those lies as truth as you are forced to do. They are fortunate enough to live in a part of the world where they can and do freely speak their minds on all issues. You should be so lucky.

[TheDuke]

Frank wrote:

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This forum is about China. Its not a place for right wingers to spout off their hatred of immigrants. Go away.

Thank you for the correction.
I didn't know GMA was the new Fox news.
And since when did truth become hate?
Best regards my "liberal" friend.

[Veritas]

Mike wrote:

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99% white girls don't want to have sex with Chinese men, reason: Chinese stud is too small comparing with American. That's why there are more Chinese girls living in USA married American men, but only a few American girls want to get married with Chinese men.

SIMPLE: White girls are hairy...every felt the skin of an Asian?

[Veritas]

Frank wrote:

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White people huh!? And I suppose non whites never lie. You are one of the most foolish posters I have ever encountered. Perhaps you should move to China where the non white folks in the government never "deny, deny, deny" any of their violations of basic human liberties.

...kinda like GBush and USA government:
1) Iraq has WMD
2) We have won the war

..seriously, you can fool the american people, even the Europeans and Australians...but you'll never fool the rest of the world. Simple.

...lol

[Veritas]

fred wrote:

all this 'counter US influence' is a little inane.
america is MASSIVELY ENCOURAGING china's rapid growth. its our investment, our trade agreements(along w/ the rest of the west). all this talk about the US being uber scared of china simply doesn't hold water. we're the ones giving them tons of money!

Please learn some basic economics before you put your thoughts on this blog.

[Frank]

Kylin wrote:

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Please explain the meaning of 'human right' in USA?

There is more to it than this but here is a good starting point.

Article the third [Amendment I]

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Article the fourth [Amendment II][4]

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Article the fifth [Amendment III]

No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

Article the sixth [Amendment IV]

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Article the seventh [Amendment V]

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Article the eighth [Amendment VI]

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

Article the ninth [Amendment VII]

In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

Article the tenth [Amendment VIII]

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Article the eleventh [Amendment IX]

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Article the twelfth [Amendment X]

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

[Frank]

Veritas wrote:

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...kinda like GBush and USA government:
1) Iraq has WMD
2) We have won the war
..seriously, you can fool the american people, even the Europeans and Australians...but you'll never fool the rest of the world. Simple.
...lol

Bush didn't fool me and I've never supported him. More off topic drivel from a racist moron.

[Veritas]

fred wrote:

all this 'counter US influence' is a little inane.
america is MASSIVELY ENCOURAGING china's rapid growth. its our investment, our trade agreements(along w/ the rest of the west). all this talk about the US being uber scared of china simply doesn't hold water. we're the ones giving them tons of money!

If I gave you thousands of $USdollars with nothing in return, like a panhandler, a bum, then you'd be rich (at least have cash flow for living expenses such as renting a condo and leasing a car).
But what if you worked for me to utilize your labour in exchange for money? Or if you exchanged a product in exchange for my money?
USA is not giving FREE money. It is a trade.
You get the picture?

[Veritas]

Frank wrote:

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Bush didn't fool me and I've never supported him. More off topic drivel from a racist moron.

...but you're still a fool regardless, right?

[Zsari]

Why_Me wrote:

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"WHEN IS CHINA GOING TO RELAESE ALL IT'S JOURNALIST FROM PRISON"?

A criminal sentenced by the court will serve their full sentence. Journalist are not above the law.