Fear of a Chinese Planet?

Fear of a Chinese Planet?

There are 5953 comments on the Russia Blog story from Dec 7, 2006, titled Fear of a Chinese Planet?. In it, Russia Blog reports that:

Chinese police at a border crossing with Russia Many foreign policy analysts in America and around the world perceive a growing alliance between Russia and China to counter U.S. influence.

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Yada

Humble, TX

#1 Dec 7, 2006
Americans are particularly egocentric. Alliance between PRC and Russia is practical. Russia has a lot of territory and few people compared to PRC which has a populations that has outgrown its territories. They eye land in Russia.

Also, PRC has a male heavy population. Alliance with Russia means access to women for Chinese men for reproductive purposes.

Russian has a bundle of oil and gas that PRC is cornering around the world. She wants the access and even maybe, to seize some. Russia wants to sell.

PRC could seek to do the three above either by war and raiding or by alliances and trading, at first. Then comes the war and raiding.
YankeeEric

AOL

#3 Dec 7, 2006
There is clear choice for Russia.

1:Chirussia

2:Russia as biggest member of
"Great Trancaucasian Four" which competes
with G-3 and G-8 of Europe

Therefore, Russia will never become Chirussia.

“Office Keith”

Since: Dec 06

Palo Alto, CA

#4 Dec 7, 2006
Maybe if the US doesn't want other countries to form alliances against it, the US should conduct itself in accordance with international law.

It seems like things might work out a lot better all around that way.
fred

Ewa Beach, HI

#5 Dec 7, 2006
all this 'counter US influence' is a little inane.

america is MASSIVELY ENCOURAGING china's rapid growth. its our investment, our trade agreements(along w/ the rest of the west). all this talk about the US being uber scared of china simply doesn't hold water. we're the ones giving them tons of money!
Too Much Chili

Oklahoma City, OK

#6 Dec 7, 2006
siloviki wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't trust the mongols.
What is the name of that movie...
Dan

Russia

#7 Dec 7, 2006
fred
tons of paper, but not the money.
butterfly

Beijing, China

#8 Dec 9, 2006
Don't be silly.

1,America has controlled the world for over 50 years;why you don't doubt it?A planet controlled by Russia will be much better than the one controlled by U.S.A I think.

2,Russia and China won't be so silly to kick each other before they kick America;U.S.A's hegemony is the first threat faced by Russia and China,it is known to one-year-old baby.

3,China needs Russia ,while Russia needs China too.It is a win-win game since they lived in the same region.Both of them should and will keep friendly just like Europeans are doing inside.There is not your U.S.A's bussiness.Haven't you found that the modern world-from Eurpope to Asia -has began to regard U.S.A as the first threat of themselves?Threw away your madcapness.

4,About the marriage.Here few of Chinese men are interested in white girls because Chinese men are largely anit-feminist.They love the typical Asian girls only because they think white women are too self-governed and won't listen to them.So ,don't worry it for Russian women.Why don't you take care of your girls?My France friends told me that your girls are fond of the black people worldwide.
butterfly

Beijing, China

#9 Dec 9, 2006
fred wrote:
all this 'counter US influence' is a little inane.
america is MASSIVELY ENCOURAGING china's rapid growth. its our investment, our trade agreements(along w/ the rest of the west). all this talk about the US being uber scared of china simply doesn't hold water. we're the ones giving them tons of money!
yeah,but who owns whom?We are the very creditor.
Mike

Charlotte, NC

#10 Dec 9, 2006
butterfly wrote:
<quoted text>
yeah,but who owns whom?We are the very creditor.
That's exactly what USA wants China to be in the game. Once China has enough dollars, USA will make it to follow the order from Washington.
Mike

Charlotte, NC

#11 Dec 9, 2006
butterfly wrote:
<quoted text>
yeah,but who owns whom?We are the very creditor.
Remember: A poor China never listen to Washington, but a rich & fat China will be easily controlled by Washington.
Mike

Charlotte, NC

#12 Dec 9, 2006
butterfly wrote:
Don't be silly.
1,America has controlled the world for over 50 years;why you don't doubt it?A planet controlled by Russia will be much better than the one controlled by U.S.A I think.
2,Russia and China won't be so silly to kick each other before they kick America;U.S.A's hegemony is the first threat faced by Russia and China,it is known to one-year-old baby.
3,China needs Russia ,while Russia needs China too.It is a win-win game since they lived in the same region.Both of them should and will keep friendly just like Europeans are doing inside.There is not your U.S.A's bussiness.Haven't you found that the modern world-from Eurpope to Asia -has began to regard U.S.A as the first threat of themselves?Threw away your madcapness.
4,About the marriage.Here few of Chinese men are interested in white girls because Chinese men are largely anit-feminist.They love the typical Asian girls only because they think white women are too self-governed and won't listen to them.So ,don't worry it for Russian women.Why don't you take care of your girls?My France friends told me that your girls are fond of the black people worldwide.
99% white girls don't want to have sex with Chinese men, reason: Chinese stud is too small comparing with American. That's why there are more Chinese girls living in USA married American men, but only a few American girls want to get married with Chinese men.
Marco

Virum, Denmark

#13 Dec 9, 2006
butterfly wrote:
1,America has controlled the world for over 50 years;why you don't doubt it?A planet controlled by Russia will be much better than the one controlled by U.S.A I think.
Perhaps you should try and think again. We're talking about the Russia of Putin who has his youth militia harass foreign ambassadors, where racism is rampant, that has no scrupules whatsoever in its treatment of 'rebellious' regimes, that has no problems with a few war-crimes here and there (especially in Chechnya), that has an income discrepancy that far exceeds that of the US, and that has no problems in supporting regimes that commit atrocities, yet unlike the US is not attacked for doing so.
butterfly wrote:
2,Russia and China won't be so silly to kick each other before they kick America;U.S.A's hegemony is the first threat faced by Russia and China,it is known to one-year-old baby.
It would not be the first time that Russia and China are involved in war, or in other ways are bugging each other.
butterfly wrote:
3,China needs Russia ,while Russia needs China too.It is a win-win game since they lived in the same region.Both of them should and will keep friendly just like Europeans are doing inside.There is not your U.S.A's bussiness.Haven't you found that the modern world-from Eurpope to Asia -has began to regard U.S.A as the first threat of themselves?Threw away your madcapness.
Actually, Europe does NOT regard the US as the first threat for themselves. They may disagree a lot with the US, but when asked to choose between Russia/China and the US, the vast majority would choose the US without even having to think a second.
butterfly wrote:
4,About the marriage.Here few of Chinese men are interested in white girls because Chinese men are largely anit-feminist.They love the typical Asian girls only because they think white women are too self-governed and won't listen to them.So ,don't worry it for Russian women.Why don't you take care of your girls?My France friends told me that your girls are fond of the black people worldwide.
Interracial marriage in France is extremely limited. Most white French girls rapidly find out that many black men are just looking for a slave, not a partner. Apparently you tell us that Chinese men are looking are the same. Then indeed the Russian men have nothing to fear...
siloviki

Burnaby, Canada

#14 Dec 9, 2006
The China/Russia relationship can be a symbiotic one like the US/Canada one.

One nation loaded with mineral wealth bordering another with over ten times the population.

As long as Russia keeps a firm grip on owning what is rightfully hers it has all the similarities of what has happened in North America.

Unlike Canada, whose gov'ts have sold our nation.

The citizens of Canada did not give these people permission to do this.

Russia has the right leadership right now to heal that nation, and in the future will be maybe even more potent than the Moscow of the halcion days of the former USSR. And it all boils down to a country that is not for sale.

If not Putin, could you please send Igor Sechin, or Sergei Ivanov to run our nation? I want some capitalist ass kicked.
Evenson

Australia

#15 Dec 9, 2006
You want some capitialist arse kicked? Or a certian person to have a small feed of Polonium?
Sugar

San Jose, CA

#16 Dec 9, 2006
The union between China and Russia is a very serious one indeed. The former Soviet Union has many nuclear weapons and biological weapons that the US does not have because the US abided by the contract it made with the SU. China I am sure has many projects under way. Putin rules with an iron fist, he claimed he wanted democracy, but he has taken over that country like everyone before him; poisoning running mates and perhaps ex-spys. China has so many people that the two military's combined would be astronomical in numbers. This union is a serious threat against the US. As we see there are many racist attitudes in China as clearly spoken by butterfly and in Europe as spoken by Marco. I am not sure what the black man has to do with anything, but black and religion are two different things. I know there are alot of Arabs in France and the French are racist against them. In China all you know about blacks is what the media puts out there. Get educated then we can talk color.
wesley yikes

Enfield, NH

#17 Dec 9, 2006
I'm waiting for sugar to bring up the "AIDS was dreamed up in CIA labs to rid the world of the black man" theory. lol
Sugar

San Jose, CA

#18 Dec 9, 2006
Keep waiting then, b/c that is just purely ignorant. If that is the best you could come up with, then maybe you should have just kept your thoughts to yourself. If you have a point, then make it. Oh maybe your point is that you are another racists in the world.
wesley yikes wrote:
I'm waiting for sugar to bring up the "AIDS was dreamed up in CIA labs to rid the world of the black man" theory. lol
Left Wing Liberal

Winchester, TN

#19 Dec 9, 2006
butterfly wrote:
Don't be silly.
1,America has controlled the world for over 50 years;why you don't doubt it?A planet controlled by Russia will be much better than the one controlled by U.S.A I think.
2,Russia and China won't be so silly to kick each other before they kick America;U.S.A's hegemony is the first threat faced by Russia and China,it is known to one-year-old baby.
3,China needs Russia ,while Russia needs China too.It is a win-win game since they lived in the same region.Both of them should and will keep friendly just like Europeans are doing inside.There is not your U.S.A's bussiness.Haven't you found that the modern world-from Eurpope to Asia -has began to regard U.S.A as the first threat of themselves?Threw away your madcapness.
4,About the marriage.Here few of Chinese men are interested in white girls because Chinese men are largely anit-feminist.They love the typical Asian girls only because they think white women are too self-governed and won't listen to them.So ,don't worry it for Russian women.Why don't you take care of your girls?My France friends told me that your girls are fond of the black people worldwide.
This is the most interesting message I have read on Topix. I all seems so perfectly clear. Just as the former Soviet Union was toppled economically the U. S. finds itself balancing between bankruptcy and oblivion. Unable to effectively compete on the global market because of our higher standard of living. Unable to negotiate trade treaties mutually favorable with China.

While we have been pouring our national wealth into Iraq; China has been spending our dollars due to the trade imbalance and our thirst for inexpensive products on nation building.

While we have practically alienated the known world, China has been globe trotting working up trade agreements. Cutting deals with Russia for natural gas, in negotiations with OPEC for private oil contracts. Cutting deals in India, Africa Nations, Pakistan, New Zealand, Venezuela, and Austrailia to name a few.

Investing billions of dollars in solar energy, nuclear, and green technologies. Funneling billions more into research and developement while steadily building up their navy and increasing their military budget.

Mandarin Chinese, not English has become the language of choice. All of this while Corporate America buddies up to the new kid in town. Just this week China announced the hiring of 300,000 to sell Avon door to door.

The Cold War greatest fear could be realized. Socialism may end up dominating the world afterall.
George Jansen

Canada

#20 Dec 9, 2006
The countries with socialists seem to be experiencing the highest growth rates? Perhaps it is better to invest in yor own people than to invest in foreign wars you can't win
wesley yikes

Enfield, NH

#21 Dec 9, 2006
Sugar wrote:
Keep waiting then, b/c that is just purely ignorant. If that is the best you could come up with, then maybe you should have just kept your thoughts to yourself. If you have a point, then make it. Oh maybe your point is that you are another racists in the world.
<quoted text>
Well, my point was simply that you throw accusations around as if they were proven fact and thusly, so can I, tit-for-tat, what's good for the goose is good for the gander, ignorance deserves nothing more than ignorance in kind.

I was parodying your small-minded political (since you like the word so much) racism:

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