China taking over Africa.

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saucer

Reading, UK

#1 Apr 4, 2009
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/art...

I wonder why America and Europe is not taking over Afirca.Why is America and Europe spending so much money and time trying to take over Iraq and Afghanistan?

Since: Mar 08

Long Island City, NY

#2 Apr 7, 2009
British has been on the continent for centuries and what does that lead to? Nothing but poverty and failure. Pointing finger at China does not help to cover the inability of the west. There are huge Chinese diaspora community in most of the south Asia countries, and they are certainly not the colonists and adventurists of the west. Applying the standard the west has subject the world to in the past few hundred years would not shed any light on Chinese action, but only leads to misunderstand and misjudgment of the future world.
9ija Telescope

Germany

#3 Feb 12, 2010
Please read history carefully before making any comments. The Chinese were the first to have trade contacts with Africa continent for many centuries ago. They did not invade Africa, nor to looter Africa resources by force without payment. The Europeans were the aggressors who came to destroyed Africa. They came later after the chinese. What happened, they invaded Africa, they seize our lands, raped, slavery,killings and lootings of the continent. It was only the Chinese again, who came to the rescue of the Africans from the Europeans aggressors. What the Europeans did in Africa, we will never forget. We welcome the Chinese wholeheartedly, the resources they get from the continent, they negotiate for it with our understanding, and they pay for it. The Chinese had never uses force against the will of the Africans, and they are not going to do it in the future. Only the fools think, what goes up never comes down, there is nothing without end.
Repeater

Köln, Germany

#4 Feb 12, 2010
Zsari wrote:
There are huge Chinese diaspora community in most of the south Asia countries, and they are certainly not the colonists and adventurists of the west.
Client state Pakistan of course.:-) Ask Tibet, Taiwan, Japan, Malaysia, Indonesia or any of the South East Asian
neighbours. Everyone is scared to death about the Chinese expansionism.
9ija Telescope

Germany

#5 Feb 12, 2010
saucer wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new s/worldnews/article-1036105/Ho w-Chinas-taking-Africa-West-VE RY-worried.html
I wonder why America and Europe is not taking over Afirca.Why is America and Europe spending so much money and time trying to take over Iraq and Afghanistan?
Africa is a continent not a country like Aghanistan. The Africa they know and looted for the past centuries ago, is not the Africa of today. You see what happened to the American soldiers that went to Somali.

“is Get it Right, People”

Since: Feb 10

New York, NY

#6 Feb 12, 2010
The Chinese from my understanding on my trip there last month, do not plan on taking over any regions that are not rightfully theirs. They only want the lands that were stolen from them: Hong Kong by Britain, Macao by Portugal and now Taiwan by the defeated KMT.

The Chinese policy in the other nations are much are reasonable than the West. Zheng He with his fleet of treasure ships are the first to reach Africa, and some of it the American continent when some of the ships were lost during storms at sea. As evidence are still being found in the Pacific Ocean to support the later claim.

This is a good book that support this claim: 1421: The Year China Discovered America by Gavin Menzies.

“is Get it Right, People”

Since: Feb 10

New York, NY

#7 Feb 12, 2010
China only wants to help the African nations by doing business there to bring up their economy.
Just Curious

Canada

#8 Feb 12, 2010
saucer wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new s/worldnews/article-1036105/Ho w-Chinas-taking-Africa-West-VE RY-worried.html
I wonder why America and Europe is not taking over Afirca.Why is America and Europe spending so much money and time trying to take over Iraq and Afghanistan?
European powers once did, and African countries won their independence after WWII.
Just Curious

Canada

#9 Feb 12, 2010
saucer wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new s/worldnews/article-1036105/Ho w-Chinas-taking-Africa-West-VE RY-worried.html
I wonder why America and Europe is not taking over Afirca.Why is America and Europe spending so much money and time trying to take over Iraq and Afghanistan?
I disagreed on this one. Most Africans welcome Chinese trade and investment because both sides can share the benefits. Imagine how poor most Africans are. Cheap Chinese products are more affordable than European and American products. So far the Chinese have treated them as equals and have no political string attached to any assistance.

How do I know? From my African friends. What they told me is very different than stories reported by our media.

“is Get it Right, People”

Since: Feb 10

New York, NY

#10 Feb 12, 2010
And once the UN kicks in after that, its much harder to justify imperialism especially with China, the weakest nation at the time in there.
India

Radstock, UK

#11 Feb 12, 2010
So, Africa is being colonised again after centuries of colonisation by European countries. These pea-brained Africans never learn, do they? China will exploit the resources which China badly needs to fund economic growth in China into the future while the living standards of the pea-brained Africans will remain as it is 100 years down the line.
India

Radstock, UK

#12 Feb 12, 2010
The Africans should be ashamed of themselves that they are allowing so many foreigners to practically take over their countries. I doubt there will be 300 million Chinese settling in Africa but even if its many millions, it would be a great shame on these pea-brained Africans.

People fight for freedom and kick out invading colonies, but the Chinese are not even having to use force and are taking over as they please. SHAME ON YOU, STUPID AFRICANS.
Just Curious

Canada

#13 Feb 12, 2010
India wrote:
So, Africa is being colonised again after centuries of colonisation by European countries. These pea-brained Africans never learn, do they? China will exploit the resources which China badly needs to fund economic growth in China into the future while the living standards of the pea-brained Africans will remain as it is 100 years down the line.
Pea-brained Africans? Watch you mouth pls. Can you deny your racial prejudice? I didn't know that Indians actually look down upon Africans.

May I advise u to measure your brain size too?
9ija Telescope

Germany

#14 Feb 12, 2010
Repeater wrote:
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Client state Pakistan of course.:-) Ask Tibet, Taiwan, Japan, Malaysia, Indonesia or any of the South East Asian
neighbours. Everyone is scared to death about the Chinese expansionism.
Among this Chinese neigbours you said. Who invaded some of them before? The Germans and France invaded the Chinese. the Japanese did it also on the Chinese. The American and france were also in vietnam, remembered the use of the Orange Bomb by the Americans in vietnam e.tc. Please! Check history carefully.
9ija Telescope

Germany

#15 Feb 12, 2010
Just Curious wrote:
<quoted text>I disagreed on this one. Most Africans welcome Chinese trade and investment because both sides can share the benefits. Imagine how poor most Africans are. Cheap Chinese products are more affordable than European and American products. So far the Chinese have treated them as equals and have no political string attached to any assistance.
How do I know? From my African friends. What they told me is very different than stories reported by our media.
You know the western media is always full of propaganda. When they see yellow, they call it green, aggressors now call themself a victim. Have you ever see any positive report about the Africa continent in western media? They lied before to their children about Africa, its difficult for them now to change the picture. Even you can see in the western media, they called a continent of Africa a country. Africa is comprises of 53 countries.
9ija Telescope

Germany

#16 Feb 12, 2010
India wrote:
So, Africa is being colonised again after centuries of colonisation by European countries. These pea-brained Africans never learn, do they? China will exploit the resources which China badly needs to fund economic growth in China into the future while the living standards of the pea-brained Africans will remain as it is 100 years down the line.
I have goods, someone buy from me and paid. Is that colonialism? The india buy also from many Africa countries. The Chinese in most Africa countries were been given a business or visiting visa by their host country. No one can come just like that to any of the Africa countries. The indians is also in some of the Africa countries. Africa is a continent not country. I know what is deceiving most people, the western media propaganda about the Chinese in Africa you see or hear. come to any of the Africa country and see things for yourself.
9ija Telescope

Germany

#17 Feb 12, 2010
Get it right people wrote:
China only wants to help the African nations by doing business there to bring up their economy.
Correct! Doing business with the Africa countries is the right thing, not the socalled western aids to Africa. With aids, you go no where, the aids donors countries regulates your life that you will never see the light. Thanks to the Chinese investments in Africa.

“is Get it Right, People”

Since: Feb 10

West Orange, NJ

#18 Feb 12, 2010
India wrote:
The Africans should be ashamed of themselves that they are allowing so many foreigners to practically take over their countries. I doubt there will be 300 million Chinese settling in Africa but even if its many millions, it would be a great shame on these pea-brained Africans.
People fight for freedom and kick out invading colonies, but the Chinese are not even having to use force and are taking over as they please. SHAME ON YOU, STUPID AFRICANS.
Go study your history please. The whole African continent was exploited by the Europeans before and during the imperialism age, the suffering there is unimaginable. The Chinese who are also victims of the Europeans during the Imperialism Age, knows how it feels thus they are only helping the African nations to grow and support them through business deals. China has not taken over anything in Africa, if you don't believe me go do some research.

Also you have no right to call another race 'pea-brained' as I don't see India doing much better than the African Continent. Your people still live by the Caste System with the untouchables being on the bottom. Your nations overpopulation issue is much bigger than Chinas' and the poverty level is humongous. Look at yourself before you start pointing fingers.
India

Radstock, UK

#19 Feb 12, 2010
9ija Telescope wrote:
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I have goods, someone buy from me and paid. Is that colonialism? The india buy also from many Africa countries. The Chinese in most Africa countries were been given a business or visiting visa by their host country. No one can come just like that to any of the Africa countries. The indians is also in some of the Africa countries. Africa is a continent not country. I know what is deceiving most people, the western media propaganda about the Chinese in Africa you see or hear. come to any of the Africa country and see things for yourself.
Of course Africa is a country and of course its fine to do business with other countries as all countries need to grow, and doing business with other countries is one way to grow. But the Chinese are not only doing business, they are kind of colonising the place. They want to exploit Africa for all its natural resources like as oil, coal, etc, which China needs in abundance and they can buy it dirt cheap from Africa because they are leveraging so much influence there.

Why would nearly 1 million Chinese settle in Africa in the last few years, its not exactly a place where you would naturally think the Chinese would go and many millions more will settle in the coming years?

I am sad for Africa that once again it will be raped and pillaged by a foreign country. Though it will not be by force, China is taking advantage of the desperately poor Africans and their inability to fight back intellectually at the Chinese onslaught.
India

Radstock, UK

#20 Feb 12, 2010
Sorry, I meant Africa is a continent of many countries and not a country in itself.

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