Why can't China Make Good Quality Pro...

Why can't China Make Good Quality Products?

Posted in the China Forum

First Prev
of 3
Next Last
Fed Up With Garbage

United States

#1 Nov 9, 2010
Why does China have to make worthless products that are of such inferior quality? Why can't they use the same materials that were used in America and just use cheaper labor, instead of cheap materials? Pyrex explodes in ovens, Stanley thermoses can't keep water hot after a few months, and many more examples abound. How about the pet foods that were full of poison a few years ago that were made in China?

I'm infuriated with the inferior garbage that comes out of China. I have NO confidence when I see "Made in China." If I want to buy something that I want to last, I'll spend a bit more and make sure it is made in America or another place I trust!!!!!!
uWORLD IDIOTS MAKEUP

Santa Clara, CA

#2 Nov 9, 2010
Most of it are US/western MNC doings only wanting to maximize profits forgoing QC, our greedy US/western barons don't paid China's factories... Your answer!
sosong

Petaling Jaya, Malaysia

#3 Nov 9, 2010
Simply becos most foreigners (not all) who want China's goods are cheapskate Charlies who only offered rock bottom, dirt like price to the Chinese sellers.
Do you know that even if you buy somethimg made in USA in the USA,(or UK, France etc), you may (stress may) find somewhere inside the goods that state made in China!
One get what one paid for.
sosong

Petaling Jaya, Malaysia

#4 Nov 9, 2010
While a small number of foreign importers paid a reasonable price (but still low), get reasonable quality products from China, Otherwise how do China manage to get trade surplus?
YUPPER

New York, NY

#5 Nov 9, 2010
Simply put; besides cheap Chinese goods, what is the alternative?

Take it or leave it.
attila the Han

Australia

#6 Nov 10, 2010
Fed Up With Garbage wrote:
Why does China have to make worthless products that are of such inferior quality? Why can't they use the same materials that were used in America and just use cheaper labor, instead of cheap materials? Pyrex explodes in ovens, Stanley thermoses can't keep water hot after a few months, and many more examples abound. How about the pet foods that were full of poison a few years ago that were made in China?
I'm infuriated with the inferior garbage that comes out of China. I have NO confidence when I see "Made in China." If I want to buy something that I want to last, I'll spend a bit more and make sure it is made in America or another place I trust!!!!!!
china makes anything from toys to rockets, their rocket don't exploded on takeoff for sure. really it depends on what you buy.

let face this...
those "garbage" you bought are way too expensive to be made in the states. when china finally produced the goods meeting your standard, china already exceeded usa 3 times over. for patriotic purposes, you might want to keep buying low quality made-in-china for as long as you could.

besides, for the dollars you paid, that is the best deal you got. imagined the same thing manufactured in zimbabwe, north korea, burma, indonesia...
OldMalaysian

Malaysia

#7 Nov 10, 2010
Fed Up With Garbage wrote:
Why does China have to make worthless products that are of such inferior quality? Why can't they use the same materials that were used in America and just use cheaper labor, instead of cheap materials? Pyrex explodes in ovens, Stanley thermoses can't keep water hot after a few months, and many more examples abound. How about the pet foods that were full of poison a few years ago that were made in China?
I'm infuriated with the inferior garbage that comes out of China. I have NO confidence when I see "Made in China." If I want to buy something that I want to last, I'll spend a bit more and make sure it is made in America or another place I trust!!!!!!
I just can't comprehend your complaints. The choice is all yours. Not everyone is a fat cat like you.
African bro

Kenya

#8 Nov 10, 2010
Fed Up With Garbage wrote:
Why does China have to make worthless products that are of such inferior quality? Why can't they use the same materials that were used in America and just use cheaper labor, instead of cheap materials? Pyrex explodes in ovens, Stanley thermoses can't keep water hot after a few months, and many more examples abound. How about the pet foods that were full of poison a few years ago that were made in China?
I'm infuriated with the inferior garbage that comes out of China. I have NO confidence when I see "Made in China." If I want to buy something that I want to last, I'll spend a bit more and make sure it is made in America or another place I trust!!!!!!
Also, the cheap cell phones which could deep fry your brain cells.

It seems that this is a form of clandestine warfare to finish off the people of other countries.

The world need to take note.

“YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#9 Nov 10, 2010
African bro wrote:
<quoted text>
Also, the cheap cell phones which could deep fry your brain cells.
It seems that this is a form of clandestine warfare to finish off the people of other countries.
The world need to take note.
no their phones work just fine in Canada... its just you lazy and poor Africans cant afford the good stuff

Yet another indicator of China’s economic development is the marked change in the composition of its exports to the US. A paper written by Wayne M. Morrison for the US Congressional Research Service (CRS) and published on July 29 notes throughout the 1980s and 1990s, nearly all of US imports from China were low-value, labour-intensive products such as toys and games, consumer electronic products, footwear as well as textiles and apparel.

Sunday This has changed significantly. Goods classified as advanced technology products comprised 30.3% of US imports from China. This is largely due to the re-location of production facilities from other countries to the mainland giant, the CSR study says. One example is computer equipment. In 2000, Japan was the largest foreign supplier of computer equipment to the US while China ranked fourth. Nine years later, the two Asian countries swapped places and within this period, China’s share of US computer imports rose from 12.1% to a hefty 58%.
SpongeBob

Leamington, Canada

#10 Nov 10, 2010
...Not all of expensive stuffs have good quality, but one thing is certain: Cheap stuffs are always bad in term of quality and long lasting...
WHAT GOES AROUND

New York, NY

#11 Nov 10, 2010
Let me correct some mistaken ideas with the thread title. Firstoff, China is not here to serve you. On the contrary, quite the opposite.

A-hhhahhhahahhahahahahaaa!
What Have We Done

United States

#13 Nov 10, 2010
I am not asking China to serve me. All I would like to do is buy a product that works properly, and for a decent amount of time.

I bought a Stanley thermos that is supposed to be a high quality item. The piece of garbage lasted maybe 3 months. After looking around online, I find that other people have had the same problem.

People have bought Pyrex and it exploded in the oven. That didn't happen when it was made in America.

Why can't China just use quality materials instead of substituting cheap garbage that isn't worth a damn, thus making inferior products that don't last till the water gets hot?

This should pertain to China or anywhere else.

This should not be too much to ask.
Drgunzet

Meridian, ID

#14 Nov 10, 2010
What Have We Done wrote:
I am not asking China to serve me. All I would like to do is buy a product that works properly, and for a decent amount of time.
I bought a Stanley thermos that is supposed to be a high quality item. The piece of garbage lasted maybe 3 months. After looking around online, I find that other people have had the same problem.
People have bought Pyrex and it exploded in the oven. That didn't happen when it was made in America.
Why can't China just use quality materials instead of substituting cheap garbage that isn't worth a damn, thus making inferior products that don't last till the water gets hot?
This should pertain to China or anywhere else.
This should not be too much to ask.
Even you should them how to make good and cheap products, they will try to cheat and subtitude in toxic and substandard parts.

Remember the milk scandal? 300,000 Chinese babies got sick, many died and the father that protested got jailed for making the Country looking bad?

LoL at China.
WHAT GOES AROUND

New York, NY

#15 Nov 10, 2010
Truth of the matter is; China couldn't stay in business if fools didn't buy them.

A=hhhahahhahhahahhahahhaaaa!
uWORLD IDIOTS RACE WAKEUP

Santa Clara, CA

#16 Nov 10, 2010
DrGUNzet

We should look in our own US backyard.

Why Is the US Food Industry Pumping Food Dyes That Cause Cancer Into Our Food?
Despite signs that they may cause cancer, food manufacturers continue to pour about millions of pounds of synthetic dyes into the American food supply every year.
It's not easy, right? That explains why this mouthful goes by its friendlier name, Red 40. It might sound innocent, but this ingredient and others like it are far from harmless. And they're in our food.

For years, we at the Center for Science in the Public Interest and food-safety officials in Europe have highlighted studies linking food dyes to hyperactivity and other behavioral problems in children. The British government and the European Parliament even decided to phase out artificial dyes based on these concerns alone, but the same can't be said for the United States. So why do food manufacturers continue to pour about 15 million pounds of eight synthetic dyes into the American food supply every year?

Well, we've tried to do something about it. In 2008, my organization petitioned the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to ban food dyes because of evidence that they cause hyperactivity and other problems in children. So far, the agency has made little progress dealing with this grave problem.

Now, after a close review of all of the major animal tests of food dyes, I fear these dyes may pose an even graver risk than hyperactivity: Cancer.

The FDA has recognized that one food dye (Red 3) is a carcinogen, and two widely used dyes contain cancer-causing contaminants. Somehow, these conclusions haven't been enough for the FDA to ban them.

The Center for Science in the Public Interest is hoping to see more action because our new investigation exposes the rainbow of risks posed by Red 40, Yellow 5, and other synthetic petroleum-based food dyes. We found that Yellow 5 caused mutations in numerous studies, and that most other food dyes have not been adequately tested.

Consider Yellow 6. A rat study linked this dye to possible tumors of the adrenal gland and testicles (though the study wasn't conclusive). Neither of the two mouse studies tested the dyes on the animals in utero--which ensures that animals are exposed to dyes throughout their lifespan, including as embryos and newborns. Moreover, like Red 40 and Yellow 5, it is contaminated with illegally high levels of benzidine and 4-aminobiphenyl, known carcinogens. The FDA has done nothing.

Red 3 caused thyroid tumors in rats. Back in 1985 the acting commissioner of the FDA said the dye was "of greatest public health concern," but the FDA did nothing. Since then, companies have dumped five million pounds of the dye into our food.
Citrus Red 2 is used to color the skins of some oranges and has caused bladder cancer in mice and rats. Yellows 5 and 6 and Blue 1 cause occasionally severe allergic reactions in some people. The abstract of one unpublished mouse study says Blue 1 caused kidney tumors.
Knowing this, you'd think the food industry would use less, or even eliminate, these chemicals. But thanks in part to the proliferation of brightly colored breakfast cereals, fruit drinks, and candies pitched to children, per-capita consumption of dyes has increased five-fold since 1955. And of course, these dyes are often used to simulate the presence of missing fruits in fruit-flavored kids' foods.

Since ban food dyes in United Kingdom, companies such as McDonald's, Mars, Kellogg have reformulated their products sold there, but have neglected American consumers. In the United Kingdom, a McDonald's Strawberry Sundae is colored only with strawberries, but in the United States it contains Reddye 40. Kellogg's Strawberry Nutri-Grain bars haveRed 40, Yellow 6, and Blue 1 in the U.S., but use beetroot, annatto, paprika extract as colorings in U.K. Starburst Chews and Skittles, both Mars products, contain synthetic dyes in the U.S., but not in Britain.
uWORLD IDIOTS RACE WAKEUP

Santa Clara, CA

#17 Nov 10, 2010
Frankly, we'd all be better off if we just ate more vegetables, fruits, and whole grains and stopped consuming packaged foods. But I'm certain that if the geniuses at, say, Kraft, got together they could find a way to make Macaroni and Cheese without Yellow 5. Actually, the company already makes a dye-free version meant for adults.

The FDA can help too by banning these discredited dyes once and for all, reducing the cancer risks in our cupboards.

“YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#18 Nov 10, 2010
What Have We Done wrote:
I am not asking China to serve me. All I would like to do is buy a product that works properly, and for a decent amount of time.
I bought a Stanley thermos that is supposed to be a high quality item. The piece of garbage lasted maybe 3 months. After looking around online, I find that other people have had the same problem.
People have bought Pyrex and it exploded in the oven. That didn't happen when it was made in America.
Why can't China just use quality materials instead of substituting cheap garbage that isn't worth a damn, thus making inferior products that don't last till the water gets hot?
This should pertain to China or anywhere else.
This should not be too much to ask.
why dont you go too the HEAD OFFICE of Stanley...

and ask this Multi National Corporation why they are paying slave wages, using cheap materials and selling you their products for a inflated price

what are you going to do if they move the manufacturing to India? blames the Indians next time???

dummy

you Americans are so clueless.. no wonder Corporate America fleeced you retards...

Address
Stanley, a brand of PMI
2401 Elliott Ave 4th floor
Seattle, WA 98121

ABOUT US
Since 1913, the Stanley brand has been building durable, rugged products that last. Passed down from generation to generation, the Stanley® vacuum bottle is an icon. It has survived a 4,000 foot drop from a plane, been run over by a tractor and has even stopped a bullet. Now in its 96th year, the innovation that sparked a revolution in vacuum insulation continues to grow. Today, we deliver superior food and beverage gear for rugged, active lifestyles and remain dedicated to this simple promise: Buy Stanley® products, get quality gear. Built for life.

The Stanley brand is owned and operated by Seattle based Pacific Market International (PMI). PMI manufactures, markets and designs reusable food and beverage products for active lifestyles around the globe. To learn more about PMI click here

“YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#19 Nov 10, 2010
why dont you go too the HEAD OFFICE of Stanley...

and ask this Multi National Corporation why they are paying slave wages, using cheap materials and selling you their products for a inflated price...R&D is done in the USA

what are you going to do if they move the manufacturing to India? blames the Indians next time???

you Americans are so clueless.. no wonder Corporate America fleeced you...

and the last time you taxpayers rewarded them with big fat bonus checks

Address
Stanley, a brand of PMI
2401 Elliott Ave 4th floor
Seattle, WA 98121

ABOUT US
Since 1913, the Stanley brand has been building durable, rugged products that last. Passed down from generation to generation, the Stanley® vacuum bottle is an icon. It has survived a 4,000 foot drop from a plane, been run over by a tractor and has even stopped a bullet. Now in its 96th year, the innovation that sparked a revolution in vacuum insulation continues to grow. Today, we deliver superior food and beverage gear for rugged, active lifestyles and remain dedicated to this simple promise: Buy Stanley® products, get quality gear. Built for life.

The Stanley brand is owned and operated by Seattle based Pacific Market International (PMI). PMI manufactures, markets and designs reusable food and beverage products for active lifestyles around the globe. To learn more about PMI click here

R&D Materials
Our R&D/Materials Department has a few simple goals:

Improve our products with fresh ideas based on consumer research and cutting edge technologies.
Bring materials and processes into our product development that aren’t being used in our industry.
Find materials that are sustainable and meet global safety regulations and are consistent with our Corporate Social Responsibility and Code of Conduct standards.
Create awareness about recycled materials and increase the use of recycled and recyclable materials worldwide.
We’re headquartered in Seattle, but we reach well beyond to meet these goals, developing partnerships all over the world. Our team collaborates with scientists, engineers and technology experts in the areas of electronics, insulation and heat transfer, material science and sustainability.

We’ve investigated more than 150 technologies, and together, we’ve found new ways to use old materials, like porcelain, plastic and steel, and innovative ways to use new materials. Recently, we developed eCycle, a plastic material of food grade quality made from 100 percent recycled materials with 25 percent post-consumer content. It’s strong enough to be re-used for decades, but, if it ever does need to be disposed of, it’s recyclable wherever [5] plastic is collected.

R&D/Materials Department highlights:

2008
Launch of Aladdin BPA-Free Clean & Clever Water Bottles made with new Eastman Tritan
2007
Introduction of best-of-class eCycle 100% recycled content Aladdin Sustain products
2006
R&D BPA-free alternatives to polycarbonate material: material science research and testing.
2003
R&D recycled material development: proprietary recycled material that is FDA-compliant and durable enough for daily use
2002
Launch of first-ever reusable commuter coffee tumblers in Tokyo, later expanded into Asia and Europe markets (all BPA-free)
sosong

Johor Bahru, Malaysia

#20 Nov 10, 2010
When toyota car got problem , ppl blame only toyota, not all japanese cars, but when a not known item from china give problem, then ppl blame the whole china, STUPID AMERICAN PROPANGANDA !!!
don't forget, a lot of raw material of milk also come from NZ.
when a certain brand of beef from US or UK got mad cow disease, why not say all UK or US beef are bad???
You mean all the 40+ storeys tall buildings, expressway etc in China so bad, n should collapse? etc, etc if cannot pay up, don't complain, if you can pay then get a better quality one, don't forget many goods made in Japan or US or UK also got many inside componenets/ accessories from China!
sosong

Johor Bahru, Malaysia

#21 Nov 10, 2010
example, many computer hard disk, USB drive, US or Japan brand cameras etc, etc also from china!

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker
First Prev
of 3
Next Last

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

China Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News Sun Yat-sen's 150th birth anniversary marked in... 56 min Russian Ainu 3
News Analysis: South China Sea ruling has so far fue... 2 hr Go Blue Forever 3
News 25 years on, no fading of Tiananmen wounds, ideals (May '14) 2 hr Go Blue Forever 109
News China Expands Naval Power to Waters U.S. Dominates (Apr '10) 11 hr Go Blue Forever 3,286
why are chinese ugly? (Aug '13) Fri Passersby 10
News Take That, Tesla Thu Solarman 1
News Taipei to hasten frigate patrol for Taiping Island Jul 14 TW_sugar_daddio 3
More from around the web