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China + Pakistan vs. India + Russia, who WINS?

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Sep 5, 2013
 
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He is probably that Blood and Steel retard in disguise because 1. he wanted to feel suprior so he created his job as an economist works in Israel, you are right, he doens't know shit about economics just common sense or googled info from internet. 2. He is a Chinese orphan but a German wanna be because he said his adopted American parents were Germans, but Germmn is too obvious so Norway is perfect.
OOOOOOh, you wish I was don't you? Whenever you fuckturds run out of arguements you go to what you know best, talking shit! I don't know shit about economics?

You forgot I put you in your place for assuming that a country that runs on a surplus can therefore never have debt problems remember? I have predicted GDP growths (ask Resistance is futile, Ray H, IC and your other pals), please if you believe I am full of BS on a subject prove me wrong by attacking my arguement rather than going straight into TALKING SHIT, which by the way is a serious sign of low intelligence.
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OOOOOOh, you wish I was don't you? Whenever you fuckturds run out of arguements you go to what you know best, talking shit! I don't know shit about economics?
You forgot I put you in your place for assuming that a country that runs on a surplus can therefore never have debt problems remember? I have predicted GDP growths (ask Resistance is futile, Ray H, IC and your other pals), please if you believe I am full of BS on a subject prove me wrong by attacking my arguement rather than going straight into TALKING SHIT, which by the way is a serious sign of low intelligence.
I must say, you are right because you said,'I am a professional' and because you said,'I am a Norwegian'.

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I must say, you are right because you said,'I am a professional' and because you said,'I am a Norwegian'.
Another sign of low intelligence gentlemen, copy pasting everywhere. But then again not too many mexican illegals go to university right MISTER Andrez Lopez from el paso.

Here is 20 pesos for your trouble, go back to el mexico start a hotel.

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#725
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I have been posting for about 1 and half, maybe 2. That sounds a lot like you have run out of logical arguements and are back to name calling.
it is weired to talk to someone who admits that he is using someone else's screen name

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OOOOOOh, you wish I was don't you? Whenever you fuckturds run out of arguements you go to what you know best, talking shit! I don't know shit about economics?
You forgot I put you in your place for assuming that a country that runs on a surplus can therefore never have debt problems remember? I have predicted GDP growths (ask Resistance is futile, Ray H, IC and your other pals), please if you believe I am full of BS on a subject prove me wrong by attacking my arguement rather than going straight into TALKING SHIT, which by the way is a serious sign of low intelligence.
I remember you said Ghana's GDP per capita is much higher thant that of China, then you admitted that you mistaken Gabon as Ghana, this is a stupid mistake my 7 year old nephew would make in preschool.

The reason I thought you were Blood and Steel is because you two are the only persons on this forum that are extremely eager to prove to people that you are extremely smart and better than the rest of the crowd which in my opinion is a sign of weakness and inconfidence.

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#727
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it is weired to talk to someone who admits that he is using someone else's screen name
its like you know this guy Joe in your neighbourhood for a year and you talk to him from time to time.....all of a sudden he said he is not Joe, he is Bob, they call him Joe because someone mistaken him as Bob so everybody started to call him Bob......
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You should try to tell me about stealing ideas China man, I did ask the last user if he were ok with me using his ID since he left it still signed in for months on my computer, he agreed. So I find it difficult how you have a problem with it, and he is my girlfriend's sister and therefore South African.
I am Norwagian and I have been using this for the last 12 months, so it pretty much is mine. Me starting my own ID would make me interested and I would get emails and stuff everytime you fools reply, so no, I will not.
But in any case you called me Japanese, white racist and imposter, you have been wrong about China's massive debt trouble(you actually thought a country that runs a surplus can't be in debt), you were wrong about basically everything. So now you have no choice but degrade yourself further with these cheap personal insults.
I will continue using this ID until the day I decide I have had enough.
Why should you get emails every time there is a post? Bullshit excuse. Norwegian with a father doing business in Jiangsu and a Zhengzhou girlfriend? Posting on Norway forum since 2010? Come on, you said you are only dreadman82 for the last 12 months. As I said, come back with you own identity.

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Why should you get emails every time there is a post? Bullshit excuse. Norwegian with a father doing business in Jiangsu and a Zhengzhou girlfriend? Posting on Norway forum since 2010? Come on, you said you are only dreadman82 for the last 12 months. As I said, come back with you own identity.
As you already probably know, you are not the boss of me and this is my adopted ID and I will continue using it to post until my propheses come true.
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As you already probably know, you are not the boss of me and this is my adopted ID and I will continue using it to post until my propheses come true.
Are you on psychedelics? What prophecies?

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Are you on psychedelics? What prophecies?
The fact that China's economy WILL NOT GROW ANYWHERE ABOVE 8% this year and will continue slowing each year from now on, crush of the Chinese economic model in the next 2 years, and complete desaster this decade.

This is not because I am crazy or because I am a prophet of God, it is simply because I believe....no I know that China because of internal debt will implode to a Japan-like state, yet because China's economy is still a relatively low-tech labor intensive economy you will stuck in Malaysia's middle income country trap.
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The fact that China's economy WILL NOT GROW ANYWHERE ABOVE 8% this year and will continue slowing each year from now on, crush of the Chinese economic model in the next 2 years, and complete desaster this decade.
This is not because I am crazy or because I am a prophet of God, it is simply because I believe....no I know that China because of internal debt will implode to a Japan-like state, yet because China's economy is still a relatively low-tech labor intensive economy you will stuck in Malaysia's middle income country trap.
When did you made this prophecy here on this forum?

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When did you made this prophecy here on this forum?
No, probably not on this one but I did make it either to you, AZN, DZ and/or Resistance is futile.
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No, probably not on this one but I did make it either to you, AZN, DZ and/or Resistance is futile.
Why do you advocate Chinese economy to go beyond 8% when the Chinese authority themselves are aiming at less than 8%?
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The fact that China's economy WILL NOT GROW ANYWHERE ABOVE 8% this year and will continue slowing each year from now on, crush of the Chinese economic model in the next 2 years, and complete desaster this decade.
This is not because I am crazy or because I am a prophet of God, it is simply because I believe....no I know that China because of internal debt will implode to a Japan-like state, yet because China's economy is still a relatively low-tech labor intensive economy you will stuck in Malaysia's middle income country trap.
At over $8 trillion, China's GDP has achieved the required mass and density to sustain itself, even with a lower growth rate.

While the US will run out of cash by mid-October. Obama has to sign another bill to raise the debt ceiling, so that the US govt. can borrow more money to pay it's bills.

Question is, how long can America keep on borrowing more money before paying back the previous amount owed?

You paint a doomsday scenario for China on a slower growth trajectory. But you have a rosy and bright prospect for the US, even though America is being crushed under increasing debt burden along with zero growth.

You have a most exotic perspective on economics.

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AZN wrote:
<quoted text>At over $8 trillion, China's GDP has achieved the required mass and density to sustain itself, even with a lower growth rate.
While the US will run out of cash by mid-October. Obama has to sign another bill to raise the debt ceiling, so that the US govt. can borrow more money to pay it's bills.
Question is, how long can America keep on borrowing more money before paying back the previous amount owed?
You paint a doomsday scenario for China on a slower growth trajectory. But you have a rosy and bright prospect for the US, even though America is being crushed under increasing debt burden along with zero growth.
You have a most exotic perspective on economics.
There is no sustainable size, its more about the composition of an economy rather than its size that make it sustainable. China has a household domestic demand of only 40% of GDP, it is therefore heavily dependant on investment and exports, that is not sustainablity.

Take for instance Iceland, which by the way through the way it has so quickly bounced back from melt down is a perfect example of a sustainable economy, high human capital(skilled labor), large household demand and a financial service industry that is the envy of all developing countries.

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AZN wrote:
<quoted text>At over $8 trillion, China's GDP has achieved the required mass and density to sustain itself, even with a lower growth rate.
While the US will run out of cash by mid-October. Obama has to sign another bill to raise the debt ceiling, so that the US govt. can borrow more money to pay it's bills.
Question is, how long can America keep on borrowing more money before paying back the previous amount owed?
You paint a doomsday scenario for China on a slower growth trajectory. But you have a rosy and bright prospect for the US, even though America is being crushed under increasing debt burden along with zero growth.
You have a most exotic perspective on economics.
The US long term Debt is at 97 percent of GDP, only people who don't know anything about how economies work and alarmist are usually the ones who try to panic the public about it. The internal debt of China is already above 200% of GDP(long term debt and internal debt is more disturbilizing than external debt), Japan's is at over 250% and raising yet the economy is growing and economic forcasts are improving.

The US debt has been project on alot of these nut job "news agencies" to grow to 199% of GDP by the year 2035, which is a total fuckary of the truth since these projections do not take into account the increased tax revenue growth which has been growing faster than GDP-debt ratios.

Currently of all developed countries the yanks pay the least in tax, but this is changing as tax avoidance has been decreased and the tax base has been increased in recent years. From 1994 through 2000, for example, revenues rose from 18 percent of GDP to 20.6 percent of GDP even though there were no tax increases.

By 2035 the tax revenue (total tax revenue not just income tax) should stand at over 40% GDP moe than enough to start hacking away at the debt problem. The US economy will be just fine, this big bad deficit doesn't matter.

The US has maintained a trend of growing huge debts, wiping them out in times of economic upheavels for 98 years. Its normal.

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AZN wrote:
<quoted text>At over $8 trillion, China's GDP has achieved the required mass and density to sustain itself, even with a lower growth rate.
While the US will run out of cash by mid-October. Obama has to sign another bill to raise the debt ceiling, so that the US govt. can borrow more money to pay it's bills.
Question is, how long can America keep on borrowing more money before paying back the previous amount owed?
You paint a doomsday scenario for China on a slower growth trajectory. But you have a rosy and bright prospect for the US, even though America is being crushed under increasing debt burden along with zero growth.
You have a most exotic perspective on economics.
The raising of the debt ceiling has no real conseqences, The United States has had some sort of legislative restriction on debt since 1917. Periodically, a political dispute arises over legislation to raise the debt ceiling.

It has happened thousands of times and no real consequence to anybody if it were raised again and again for the next decade which I am confident it will not need to be.

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AZN wrote:
<quoted text>At over $8 trillion, China's GDP has achieved the required mass and density to sustain itself, even with a lower growth rate.
While the US will run out of cash by mid-October. Obama has to sign another bill to raise the debt ceiling, so that the US govt. can borrow more money to pay it's bills.
Question is, how long can America keep on borrowing more money before paying back the previous amount owed?
You paint a doomsday scenario for China on a slower growth trajectory. But you have a rosy and bright prospect for the US, even though America is being crushed under increasing debt burden along with zero growth.
You have a most exotic perspective on economics.
Exotic economics? Well all I can say is watch this page on how China's economic model will start crumbling within the next 2 years.

There is no RIGHT size of an economic that can avoid the fact that an economy is unsustainable and with the huge dependance on exports and investments, and relative irrelavant household demand the Chinese economy is unsustainable.
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There is no sustainable size, its more about the composition of an economy rather than its size that make it sustainable. China has a household domestic demand of only 40% of GDP, it is therefore heavily dependant on investment and exports, that is not sustainablity.
Take for instance Iceland, which by the way through the way it has so quickly bounced back from melt down is a perfect example of a sustainable economy, high human capital(skilled labor), large household demand and a financial service industry that is the envy of all developing countries.
Iceland's financial service envy of other countries? Many people were screwed by putting money in Icesave. Gordon Brown called iceland terrorist state and invoked terrorism law to try to retrieve British's money, which I kind of sympathise and disagree with on the inappropriate use of law. Europe, including its Nordic brothers were reluctantly to help when Iceland was on its knee, only when Russia wanted to help the the rest of the Europe fall in line.
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The raising of the debt ceiling has no real conseqences, The United States has had some sort of legislative restriction on debt since 1917. Periodically, a political dispute arises over legislation to raise the debt ceiling.
It has happened thousands of times and no real consequence to anybody if it were raised again and again for the next decade which I am confident it will not need to be.
Of course it does have consequences, else there will be no practical need for congress to debate about it, other than legally required to. But the sin of these politicians is not so much as to increase debt conveniently each time there is no political will to cut spending on unnecessary things, but the lack of important public investment and failing to create jobs for next generations. Something which I think the Chinese should learn the mistakes of US, since it is passing through this phase.

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