Can China Lead?

Can China Lead?

There are 41 comments on the CFR.org story from Oct 6, 2012, titled Can China Lead?. In it, CFR.org reports that:

Protesters march down a street during an anti-Japan protest in Shenzhen on August 19, 2012.

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World Peace

Claremont, CA

#21 Oct 7, 2012
2 Cents wrote:
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That's nice to know since we want to be the world's super power and we want to be the world's cop. And for this reason, we can't let China grow peacefully as it will become more wealthy and therefore more powerful than us eventually. While we wouldn't attack China directly, we will definitely try to maneuver India, Vietnam, Philippines and Japan into military conflict with China.
If Philippines, Vietnam, India, and Japan go against China , it will be deadly for the people of both sides. Let's resolve this tiny island issue peacefully before it gets bloody for everyone .
Snowflake

San Francisco, CA

#22 Oct 7, 2012
China whether you like it or not is already leading most of the world, Africa, Latin America, Asia, australia, New Zealand somewhat et al. Most of the world look up to China now, in fact over two hundred countries recognized China and trades with them. If Mitt gets elected, it is going to be the same gunboat diplomacy again, you don't listen to us we will kill you.
RayH

Shenzhen, China

#23 Oct 7, 2012
Snowflake wrote:
China whether you like it or not is already leading most of the world, Africa, Latin America, Asia, australia, New Zealand somewhat et al. Most of the world look up to China now, in fact over two hundred countries recognized China and trades with them. If Mitt gets elected, it is going to be the same gunboat diplomacy again, you don't listen to us we will kill you.
Except in this new Cold War, Uncle Sam goes bankrupt.
Snowflake

San Francisco, CA

#24 Oct 7, 2012
I am voting for Obama, the world respects him more so than Romney, Romney even made enemies with our best friend Britain when he was there. He is a clown. Telling them they do not know how to run an Olympic.
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#25 Oct 7, 2012
VIVA CHINA wrote:
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What is real free world? Yours? Nope, I don't think so.
theoretically,capitalism isn't superior, in the future all the world will evolve to socialism, indeed some of you have become a virtual one.
China is running an advanced social system, even though the nation isn't developed now.
We won't join your "free world", but will have you joining instead when we begin to lead world.
Your 'advanced social system' means you have the worst income disparity on earth, people who criticise the government get put under house arrest and intimidated by CCP thugs and soime of your people live in caves and mud huts.
TRUTH BE TOLD

Brooklyn, NY

#26 Oct 7, 2012
I can read wrote:
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Your 'advanced social system' means you have the worst income disparity on earth, people who criticise the government get put under house arrest and intimidated by CCP thugs and soime of your people live in caves and mud huts.
"income disparity"?

You sound like a communist.

A-HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAH AHAHA
RayH

Shenzhen, China

#27 Oct 7, 2012
I can read wrote:
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Your 'advanced social system' means you have the worst income disparity on earth, people who criticise the government get put under house arrest and intimidated by CCP thugs and soime of your people live in caves and mud huts.
China's Gini Index is only slightly higher than U.S. and lower than Hong Kong's and much of Latin America. Plenty of people criticize the government in China on the internet, it's no big deal unless you're inciting a riot, like those blokes arrested in your London Riots last year for posting on the internet.

Like I said before, cave housing is just a style of architecture (like in Australia) and only 2 % of Chinese people live in them. Even less for mud huts. And the percentage of homeless in your country? 1 %?

“we are central empire”

Since: Sep 12

Changde, China

#28 Oct 8, 2012
I can read wrote:
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Your 'advanced social system' means you have the worst income disparity on earth, people who criticise the government get put under house arrest and intimidated by CCP thugs and soime of your people live in caves and mud huts.
You appear to be dreaming, things you mentioned is hardly true.
No people in China lives in mud huts, maybe you mean people in mountainous regions of western China. But it must be considered that there is almost no a complete pavement there, and it's hard to connect those regions where are without flat terrain.
CCP has done a large project that builds Qinghai-tibet railway, which is benifiting people there.
Tibetians' life has improved, this is a powerful proof for CCP.
old china

Chengdu, China

#29 Oct 8, 2012
RayH wrote:
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China's Gini Index is only slightly higher than U.S. and lower than Hong Kong's and much of Latin America. Plenty of people criticize the government in China on the internet, it's no big deal unless you're inciting a riot, like those blokes arrested in your London Riots last year for posting on the internet.
Like I said before, cave housing is just a style of architecture (like in Australia) and only 2 % of Chinese people live in them. Even less for mud huts. And the percentage of homeless in your country? 1 %?
The homeless in America have been living in tents and cars. That is not home. People who live in a cave, whether in Australia or China or wherever, are not homeless and their home offers some advantages over traditional brick and concrete structures especially in extreme heat and cold.
old china

Chengdu, China

#30 Oct 8, 2012
I can read wrote:
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Your 'advanced social system' means you have the worst income disparity on earth, people who criticise the government get put under house arrest and intimidated by CCP thugs and soime of your people live in caves and mud huts.
According to CHAIN, 5,678 people slept rough at some point in London during 2011/12, an increase of 43 per cent on the previous year's total of 3975. I wonder whast the figure for Edinburgh is? Sleeping rough means that they have no home and typically sleep in a cardboard box and can find no shelters run by charities to provide them with a bed for the night. Estimates that for the UK are that 400,000 people have no home. They don't even have a cave or a mud hut.
RayH

Shenzhen, China

#31 Oct 8, 2012
old china wrote:
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According to CHAIN, 5,678 people slept rough at some point in London during 2011/12, an increase of 43 per cent on the previous year's total of 3975. I wonder whast the figure for Edinburgh is? Sleeping rough means that they have no home and typically sleep in a cardboard box and can find no shelters run by charities to provide them with a bed for the night. Estimates that for the UK are that 400,000 people have no home. They don't even have a cave or a mud hut.
How do these people get through the English winter?
RayH

Shenzhen, China

#32 Oct 8, 2012
old china wrote:
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According to CHAIN, 5,678 people slept rough at some point in London during 2011/12, an increase of 43 per cent on the previous year's total of 3975. I wonder whast the figure for Edinburgh is? Sleeping rough means that they have no home and typically sleep in a cardboard box and can find no shelters run by charities to provide them with a bed for the night. Estimates that for the UK are that 400,000 people have no home. They don't even have a cave or a mud hut.
So, that's about 0.7 % of U.K.'s population homeless.

“we are central empire”

Since: Sep 12

Changde, China

#33 Oct 8, 2012
RayH wrote:
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How do these people get through the English winter?
Waiting for aid LOL, is there aid from English Govt?
Maybe no. If there is aids of govt, people who are sleeping in the open won't be so.
Where is your welfare?
old china

Chengdu, China

#34 Oct 8, 2012
VIVA CHINA wrote:
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Waiting for aid LOL, is there aid from English Govt?
Maybe no. If there is aids of govt, people who are sleeping in the open won't be so.
Where is your welfare?
There is some aid from the UK government but if they are illegal immigrants, lost their passports, ID etc then the chances are that the government will not help them particularly if they are not in a position to help themselves, or the homeless are afraid of the government's response even if the government had enough accomodation. The responsibility then falls on the charities but they do not have enough money or enough beds. You have to queue early to get a bed and a meal for the night and they chuck you out again in the morning - that is not home. People in the UK, typically the old, die every year in the UK - many of them is because they do not have a home.

According to statistics, England has 50,000 more deaths in the winter than in the summer - cold related. That's more people than any other European country including Siberia where it can drop to -40C.
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#36 Oct 8, 2012
old china wrote:
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According to CHAIN, 5,678 people slept rough at some point in London during 2011/12, an increase of 43 per cent on the previous year's total of 3975. I wonder whast the figure for Edinburgh is? Sleeping rough means that they have no home and typically sleep in a cardboard box and can find no shelters run by charities to provide them with a bed for the night. Estimates that for the UK are that 400,000 people have no home. They don't even have a cave or a mud hut.
Uh huh.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19648095

Seems like the homeless people in london have more chance of sleeping in a bed for the night than rural Chinese.

PS Notice how I backed up my claims? Us westerners are interested in the truth while apparently Chinese people are only interested in perception.

You couldn't care less if you kill hundreds of Tibetan protestors for instance but if someone publicises your murderous ways, then you get really annoyed.
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#37 Oct 8, 2012
old china wrote:
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There is some aid from the UK government but if they are illegal immigrants, lost their passports, ID etc then the chances are that the government will not help them particularly if they are not in a position to help themselves, or the homeless are afraid of the government's response even if the government had enough accomodation. The responsibility then falls on the charities but they do not have enough money or enough beds. You have to queue early to get a bed and a meal for the night and they chuck you out again in the morning - that is not home. People in the UK, typically the old, die every year in the UK - many of them is because they do not have a home.
According to statistics, England has 50,000 more deaths in the winter than in the summer - cold related. That's more people than any other European country including Siberia where it can drop to -40C.
Here's our benefit system that everyone qualifies for:

http://www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/benefitrates2012.p...

That's over 700 RMB per week + free housing and exemption from housing based taxes.

Are you really pretending the CCP has a better welfare system?

Our people on welfare get more than your factory workers.
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#38 Oct 8, 2012
VIVA CHINA wrote:
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Waiting for aid LOL, is there aid from English Govt?
Maybe no. If there is aids of govt, people who are sleeping in the open won't be so.
Where is your welfare?
I can't remember the UK ever forcing an 8 months pregnant woman to have an abortion just because the UK hates it's people so much it wants to ensure their numbers reduce.
RayH

Shenzhen, China

#41 Oct 8, 2012
Because your system has failed them. Pass a few Shillings to them for me, can you?

“we are central empire”

Since: Sep 12

Changsha, China

#42 Oct 9, 2012
I can read wrote:
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I can't remember the UK ever forcing an 8 months pregnant woman to have an abortion just because the UK hates it's people so much it wants to ensure their numbers reduce.
When your population reach China's current level, you won't say so.
one-child policy is scientific and it has helped China reduce bearing over 1 hundred milion people, which eased national burden.
You brits don't understand because you just have about 70 milion population, but it's still a large density of population over your islands.
Have you felt housing shortage in Britain?
RayH

Shenzhen, China

#43 Oct 9, 2012
VIVA CHINA wrote:
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When your population reach China's current level, you won't say so.
one-child policy is scientific and it has helped China reduce bearing over 1 hundred milion people, which eased national burden.
You brits don't understand because you just have about 70 milion population, but it's still a large density of population over your islands.
Have you felt housing shortage in Britain?
Actually, that's 400 Million less people in China due to "One Child Policy."

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