Philippines vows to defend territory, sovereignty

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It is Amazing

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#21 Jun 12, 2013
idiots united wrote:
<quoted text> So how about Philippines historical claim and EEZ claim and what's with you chinks from Taiwan, Hongkong, Singapore, Canada, London Malaysia Australia? You just want the whole world for yourself now?
Did Philippines has a historical claim? Her official positions was based on 2 points:

1. The extension of the coast border from 12 miles to 200 miles.

2. "Terra Nullius" which was already rebuked because when Philippines after signing the UNCLOS went to demolish China Sovereignty Marker, it already proved "Terra Nullius" cannot be applied.

In recent times she has become so DESPERATE, she ignored the Treaty of Paris which the Treaty of Manila must adhere to, where Philippines sea border is limited to the Meridian 118 degree, Philippines herself have breached INTERNATIONAL TREATY.

Used a savage ship incident in a STORM SHELTER as proof of historical ownership. I will elaborate more on this later and let every logical being see, how STUPID and DESPERATE Pinoy are.

Mind you, I started participating into this discussion more as a neutral observer.
I discovered how RACIST and bully you people are just because the Chinese lacks the proficiency of the language.

And the more I research into the subject, the more I discovered China has valid points and how sneaky and greedy you Pinoys are.

And so I take it upon myself to defend the Chinese PoV which in my opinion is more valid. They have been truly administering these territories since ancient times.

I have seen some of these posted in Chinese blogs and others.

Philippines should instead seek to examined these document in China thru' a bilateral discussion instead of POLICIZING it.

China have settled all their LAND BORDERS disagreement with practically every countries including Vietnam, Russia, etc except India based on BILATERAL NEGOTIATION.

Philippines action was emboldened by former USA sec of state DEVILWOMAN Hilliary secret agenda. She was SCOLDED in ASEAN by former Philippines Fidel Ramos for interfering but unfortunately his warning was not heed by STUPID USA leaning PINOY politicians.

It is too late now, the mill is moving. Sea Skirmish is inevitable and Philippines can only be the real VICTIM.

EXAMPLE: In 1962, Nehru snubbed Zhou Enlai who specially flew to New Delhi for the border peace talk. At the ND airport, the Chinese Premier give a heavy sigh and WAR later BROKE OUT.
India was humiliated and today Indian blame China for starting a war when a Aussie Naval Intelligence report unveil 30 years later shown that Indian Army has penetrated deep inside China way beyond the Macmahon line before the war started. That is HISTORY!
idiots united

Saint Paul, MN

#22 Jun 12, 2013
It is Amazing wrote:
<quoted text>
Did Philippines has a historical claim? Her official positions was based on 2 points:
1. The extension of the coast border from 12 miles to 200 miles.
2. "Terra Nullius" which was already rebuked because when Philippines after signing the UNCLOS went to demolish China Sovereignty Marker, it already proved "Terra Nullius" cannot be applied.
In recent times she has become so DESPERATE, she ignored the Treaty of Paris which the Treaty of Manila must adhere to, where Philippines sea border is limited to the Meridian 118 degree, Philippines herself have breached INTERNATIONAL TREATY.
Used a savage ship incident in a STORM SHELTER as proof of historical ownership. I will elaborate more on this later and let every logical being see, how STUPID and DESPERATE Pinoy are.
Mind you, I started participating into this discussion more as a neutral observer.
I discovered how RACIST and bully you people are just because the Chinese lacks the proficiency of the language.
And the more I research into the subject, the more I discovered China has valid points and how sneaky and greedy you Pinoys are.
And so I take it upon myself to defend the Chinese PoV which in my opinion is more valid. They have been truly administering these territories since ancient times.
I have seen some of these posted in Chinese blogs and others.
Philippines should instead seek to examined these document in China thru' a bilateral discussion instead of POLICIZING it.
China have settled all their LAND BORDERS disagreement with practically every countries including Vietnam, Russia, etc except India based on BILATERAL NEGOTIATION.
Philippines action was emboldened by former USA sec of state DEVILWOMAN Hilliary secret agenda. She was SCOLDED in ASEAN by former Philippines Fidel Ramos for interfering but unfortunately his warning was not heed by STUPID USA leaning PINOY politicians.
It is too late now, the mill is moving. Sea Skirmish is inevitable and Philippines can only be the real VICTIM.
EXAMPLE: In 1962, Nehru snubbed Zhou Enlai who specially flew to New Delhi for the border peace talk. At the ND airport, the Chinese Premier give a heavy sigh and WAR later BROKE OUT.
India was humiliated and today Indian blame China for starting a war when a Aussie Naval Intelligence report unveil 30 years later shown that Indian Army has penetrated deep inside China way beyond the Macmahon line before the war started. That is HISTORY!
So you chinks will never stop and always attacking with your economic power and dirty propagandas and little bit of military intimidations eh?
BaKuteH

Petaling Jaya, Malaysia

#23 Jun 13, 2013
idiots united wrote:
<quoted text> Americans like don the american, amc, derek and many many more actually smooch to the Chinese because they just love to flock and identify with the rich powerful Chinese. It's human nature and the nature of power.
they don't praise the chinese, they just don't like the philippines, in fact pinoy smooch the chinese feet more than anyone on earth did
It is Amazing

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#24 Jun 13, 2013
idiots united wrote:
<quoted text> So you chinks will never stop and always attacking with your economic power and dirty propagandas and little bit of military intimidations eh?
Apart from insult and racist comment, have anything else to say.

Absolutely nothing.

When USA military intimidated the other smaller nation, you were absolutely supportive of her action through your silent, right.

You get an orgasm when USA soldiers pee on the enemies, use their skull as a football, rape their women and then shot them as terrorists, etc.

IN the meanwhile China in engaging with the new Iraq is importing 50% of her oil and USA crying FOUL.

We fought the war and China reap the benefit.

But why complain?

China is not stealing them.

They paid GOOD RMB backed with gold bullion for them.
Martin Nuke

Angono, Philippines

#25 Jun 13, 2013
Chinks suck they can't do anything decent in the Phippimes they even attemped to bribe the NBI.

6 Taiwanese nabbed for ATM fraud

By Ina Reformina, ABS-CBN News
Posted at 06/06/2013 5:00 PM | Updated as of 06/06/2013 5:00 PM

MANILA The National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) has arrested six Taiwanese nationals allegedly involved in credit card and automated teller machine (ATM) card fraud.

The bureau's Cybercrime Division, in a report submitted to NBI Dir. Nonnatus Rojas on Thursday, identified the suspects as Cheng-Yen Yu, 25; Chih-Cheng Chang, 35; Chia-Hung Hung, 26; Sen-Yuan Wu, 24; Chun-Kai Tsou, 25 and Wen-Hao Wu, 26, all with address at the Regency Park Townhomes, J. Abad Santos Hi-Way cor. E. Aguinaldo St., Clark Special Economic Zone in Pampanga.

They were arrested on June 4.

Seized from them were alleged counterfeit ATM cards and credit cards, electronic gadgets used in illegal duplication of credit cards and ATM cards, and several documents.

The suspects were charged for violations of Republic Act (RA) No. 8484 (Access, Devices, Regulation Act of 1998) before the Pampanga Prosecutor's Office.

Chang is also facing a separate complaint for Corruption of Public Officials for allegedly offering bribe money to the NBI operatives.

The NBI-CCD said it also recovered P500,000 allegedly offered as bribe money.
TehO

Concord, CA

#26 Jun 17, 2013
Martin Nuke wrote:
Chinks suck they can't do anything decent in the Phippimes they even attemped to bribe the NBI.
6 Taiwanese nabbed for ATM fraud
By Ina Reformina, ABS-CBN News
Posted at 06/06/2013 5:00 PM | Updated as of 06/06/2013 5:00 PM
MANILA The National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) has arrested six Taiwanese nationals allegedly involved in credit card and automated teller machine (ATM) card fraud.
The bureau's Cybercrime Division, in a report submitted to NBI Dir. Nonnatus Rojas on Thursday, identified the suspects as Cheng-Yen Yu, 25; Chih-Cheng Chang, 35; Chia-Hung Hung, 26; Sen-Yuan Wu, 24; Chun-Kai Tsou, 25 and Wen-Hao Wu, 26, all with address at the Regency Park Townhomes, J. Abad Santos Hi-Way cor. E. Aguinaldo St., Clark Special Economic Zone in Pampanga.
They were arrested on June 4.
Seized from them were alleged counterfeit ATM cards and credit cards, electronic gadgets used in illegal duplication of credit cards and ATM cards, and several documents.
The suspects were charged for violations of Republic Act (RA) No. 8484 (Access, Devices, Regulation Act of 1998) before the Pampanga Prosecutor's Office.
Chang is also facing a separate complaint for Corruption of Public Officials for allegedly offering bribe money to the NBI operatives.
The NBI-CCD said it also recovered P500,000 allegedly offered as bribe money.
The problem is Philippines is such a lawless society that it tends to attract criminals from the region and beyond to set up their operation there. It will be naive to think more advance countries do not have criminals, just statistically much lower. These criminals sometimes cannot operate in their home country, so have to go to Philippines.

This is like investment, if Philippines can provide a good environment for investment, multi-national companies will invest there, creating jobs for locals. However if Philippines provide an environment for criminal activities, then it will attract criminals. Sadly to say, Philippines does tend to attract criminals more than investment.

amc

San Juan, Philippines

#27 Jun 17, 2013
kerel wrote:
<quoted text>
Im a caucasian but why are some of you americans always provoking fights?
those for peace will opose you stupid warmongers from usa
he loves being called an American, but.......
hes NOT AN AMERICAN. hes just another 3rd world toilet cleaning antagonist. hes a flip. regardless of what his papers say.
BaKuteH

Petaling Jaya, Malaysia

#28 Jun 17, 2013
amc wrote:
<quoted text>
he loves being called an American, but.......
hes NOT AN AMERICAN. hes just another 3rd world toilet cleaning antagonist. hes a flip. regardless of what his papers say.
being rich and western is being cool in philippines no big surprise
chinkyloid

San Juan, Philippines

#29 Jun 17, 2013
TehO wrote:
<quoted text>
The problem is Philippines is such a lawless society that it tends to attract criminals from the region and beyond to set up their operation there. It will be naive to think more advance countries do not have criminals, just statistically much lower. These criminals sometimes cannot operate in their home country, so have to go to Philippines.
This is like investment, if Philippines can provide a good environment for investment, multi-national companies will invest there, creating jobs for locals. However if Philippines provide an environment for criminal activities, then it will attract criminals. Sadly to say, Philippines does tend to attract criminals more than investment.
lawlessness of the philippine society? then those taiwanese law offenders must not have been arrested in a first place,if it does!!!

you shuold blame it to the taiwanese law offenders, not to the type of system or law prevailing in the philippines.its so obvious that taiwanese law offenders disrespect the law of the philippines & commit violations, therefore they must be charged guilty beyond reasonable doubt .

Since: Nov 10

Zhengzhou, China

#30 Jun 17, 2013
philippine should give its people more education and spend money on improving people's live.
TehO

Concord, CA

#31 Jun 17, 2013
chinkyloid wrote:
<quoted text>
lawlessness of the philippine society? then those taiwanese law offenders must not have been arrested in a first place,if it does!!!
you shuold blame it to the taiwanese law offenders, not to the type of system or law prevailing in the philippines.its so obvious that taiwanese law offenders disrespect the law of the philippines & commit violations, therefore they must be charged guilty beyond reasonable doubt .
Well, you have to think why those Taiwanese criminals don't try Singapore or Hong Kong instead.

The reality is that whenever a criminal needs to run or start an operation, Philippines springs to mind because there is where he can find support, either from local triads or influential families and politicians.
pinoy born loser

North Point, Hong Kong

#32 Jun 17, 2013
pinoy can not claim spratly, they must move out of spratly immediately.

they don't have the money to invest, the power to protect, the technology to use it..

pinoy territory is fixed under international law treaty of paris, their territory is clearly define inside a border box...they can not claim outside the box....

unclos only claims waters and not land...pinoy is stupid ignorant low tech, uneducated monkey brain.

China own all south China sea isle within the 9 dash line for hundreds of year.

pinoy is losing debate in topix

pinoy is rule and brain wash by spain more than 300 years, they are puppet nation, they can not claim spratly...
chinkyloid

San Juan, Philippines

#34 Jun 17, 2013
simply because singapore & hongkong are a lot smaller in land area compared to the philippines to hide with.
TehO

Concord, CA

#35 Jun 17, 2013
chinkyloid wrote:
simply because singapore & hongkong are a lot smaller in land area compared to the philippines to hide with.
Why not Malaysia or even China then? Try asking why Philippines instead.
chinkyloid

San Juan, Philippines

#36 Jun 17, 2013
pinoy born loser wrote:
pinoy can not claim spratly, they must move out of spratly immediately.
they don't have the money to invest, the power to protect, the technology to use it..
pinoy territory is fixed under international law treaty of paris, their territory is clearly define inside a border box...they can not claim outside the box....
unclos only claims waters and not land...pinoy is stupid ignorant low tech, uneducated monkey brain.
China own all south China sea isle within the 9 dash line for hundreds of year.
pinoy is losing debate in topix
pinoy is rule and brain wash by spain more than 300 years, they are puppet nation, they can not claim spratly...
define south china sea, define philippine sea?

did philipines claim the vast area of philppine sea? no we didn't, because we understood that the sea was named after our islands only due to its proximity. if we based it on historical means, then we can claim the entire pacific ocean, since the islands within the pacific region were occupied by our austronesian brothers, who are very much related to filipino, indonesian & malays, for thousands of years ...
BaKuteH

Petaling Jaya, Malaysia

#37 Jun 17, 2013
TehO wrote:
<quoted text>
Why not Malaysia or even China then? Try asking why Philippines instead.
philippines is too poor to be asked, and too dumb provided they have low IQ standard
chinkyloid

United States

#38 Jun 17, 2013
TehO wrote:
<quoted text>
Why not Malaysia or even China then? Try asking why Philippines instead.
malaysia & china? i dont think so...do have any source to prove that those taiwanese syndicate dont operate to those countries you've mention before?
TehO

United States

#39 Jun 17, 2013
chinkyloid wrote:
<quoted text>
define south china sea, define philippine sea?
did philipines claim the vast area of philppine sea? no we didn't, because we understood that the sea was named after our islands only due to its proximity. if we based it on historical means, then we can claim the entire pacific ocean, since the islands within the pacific region were occupied by our austronesian brothers, who are very much related to filipino, indonesian & malays, for thousands of years ...
You are stretching the argrument. I have never heard of Philippines sea, only South China Sea. Besides the whole spratly started when one of your guys removed the Chinese sovereignty marker, prompting the Chinese to take action. Before that all fishermen were allowed to fish in South China Sea, now all screwed up, thanks mate.

Moreover isn't Philippines supposed to stick to the treaty of Paris?
chinkyloid

San Juan, Philippines

#40 Jun 17, 2013
BaKuteH wrote:
<quoted text>
philippines is too poor to be asked, and too dumb provided they have low IQ standard
but not as low as yours.
chinkyloid

United States

#41 Jun 17, 2013
TehO wrote:
<quoted text>
You are stretching the argrument. I have never heard of Philippines sea, only South China Sea. Besides the whole spratly started when one of your guys removed the Chinese sovereignty marker, prompting the Chinese to take action. Before that all fishermen were allowed to fish in South China Sea, now all screwed up, thanks mate.
Moreover isn't Philippines supposed to stick to the treaty of Paris?
never heard of philippine sea? you must be absent at that time when your teacher taught that in you elementary class before!!!lol!!! or maybe you also never heard of country named philippines too!!!lol!! just keep on denying bro!!

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