China destroys Bhuddist Temples , Chu...

Since: Feb 12

Taipei, Taiwan

#21 Apr 18, 2013
ASIA AFRO LATIN MID EAST wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong !Worst than all nation combined, US genocidal and century of war on he NAtive Indians of N. America - close to over 100 million plus massacre by US, this just one of many war on the native Indians of N. America, aS US war massacre of LAtin Americans, African, SE Asia... So?
someone doesn't know their history. I mean, these are stats that you can just look up on Wikipedia and you can find out how wrong you are.

I can tell you that Stalin, Hitler and Mao killed more people than the US (everything that US has been in) straight off the bat.

And the Indian American war isn't a genocide. That's just a war. Genocide is the killing of ur own people, like Syria right now or Libya. The American Civil war can be considered genocide depending on who you talk to. That was our most costliest war people wise that killed less than a million people.

Since: Feb 12

Taipei, Taiwan

#22 Apr 18, 2013
Here you go.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_mi...

The Indian wars is around 100k death totally give or take.

Stalin's regime's killed 20mil +
Mao's regime killed 40mil+
If you want, you can count Hitler's holocaust, but that can be debated whether its a genocide or just systematic killing of anyone that he feels threatening and not aryan. That number is around 4-5mil

http://necrometrics.com/20c5m.htm

I mean, if you even done some research, you would know you are wrong. Are you trying to tell me that 100,000 give or take is great that, > 20 mil from Stalin, 40mil from Mao or even 4-5 mil from Hitler? If that's ur argument, you are a lot worse at math than I am.
ASia Afro latin mid East

Woodside, NY

#23 Apr 18, 2013
StarsplashTaiwan wrote:
Here you go.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_mi...
The Indian wars is around 100k death totally give or take.
Stalin's regime's killed 20mil +
Mao's regime killed 40mil+
If you want, you can count Hitler's holocaust, but that can be debated whether its a genocide or just systematic killing of anyone that he feels threatening and not aryan. That number is around 4-5mil
http://necrometrics.com/20c5m.htm
I mean, if you even done some research, you would know you are wrong. Are you trying to tell me that 100,000 give or take is great that, > 20 mil from Stalin, 40mil from Mao or even 4-5 mil from Hitler? If that's ur argument, you are a lot worse at math than I am.
Get his book David Stannard has proved American Holocaust , US killed 90 million to 100 million or more Native Indians of N. America genocide and wars, this just one war.
ASia Afro latin mid East

United States

#24 Apr 18, 2013
CCP are MASS-MURDERERS wrote:
<quoted text>
Most natives were killed by diseases new to them, but of course being CCP you are very ignorant of history, as well as everything else.
Give me an example of the mass-murder of millions of native Canadians, or STFU, ignoramus Wu Mao loser.
BWHAAAHA Gettting Miro Lube ya , afraid the woerld know about atrocity of war , American holocaust , US wars against Native indians of N, America , know about using biowarfare and genocida l was of mass murder, that what US did!

And what british did to you people...?
ASia Afro latin mid East

United States

#25 Apr 18, 2013
@ taiwansplash

With the arrival of Christopher Columbus in 1492 20th Century Scholars estimate the pre Columbian population of Native Americans (Native indians of NA. American) to be between 50 and 100 Million peoples.

http://nativeamericanencyclopedia.com/what-we...

Since: Feb 12

Taipei, Taiwan

#26 Apr 18, 2013
ASia Afro latin mid East wrote:
@ taiwansplash
With the arrival of Christopher Columbus in 1492 20th Century Scholars estimate the pre Columbian population of Native Americans (Native indians of NA. American) to be between 50 and 100 Million peoples.
http://nativeamericanencyclopedia.com/what-we...
Ummm.. those were Europeans. Europeans settled the Americas, such as Spain, Portugal etc... And they didn't physically kill them, disease killed the native Americans.

You are confusing Europeans for Americans. It was the Europeans that you are referring to. There was no such thing as Americans back then. The American race concept was something that came from the Revolutionary war against the British where people that lived in the North America wanted to be separated by the British.
ASia Afro latin mid East

United States

#27 Apr 18, 2013
StarsplashTaiwan wrote:
<quoted text>
Ummm.. those were Europeans. Europeans settled the Americas, such as Spain, Portugal etc... And they didn't physically kill them, disease killed the native Americans.
You are confusing Europeans for Americans. It was the Europeans that you are referring to. There was no such thing as Americans back then. The American race concept was something that came from the Revolutionary war against the British where people that lived in the North America wanted to be separated by the British.
US killed Native Food source many millions of buffalo, gaved them diseased laden blankets and genocidal wars, scalped and hunted many native for money, US miltary wars on natives...

Since: Feb 12

Taipei, Taiwan

#28 Apr 19, 2013
ASia Afro latin mid East wrote:
<quoted text>US killed Native Food source many millions of buffalo, gaved them diseased laden blankets and genocidal wars, scalped and hunted many native for money, US miltary wars on natives...
You are going everywhere. Focus on something and stick with it.

Your argument that this genocide is the worse in human history is still flat out false. Not only that, this wasn't even a genocide. A genocide is the war of the same people. Native Americans VS Europeans = not Genocide. Thats just war. PLease understand the difference between genocide and war. Hitler, Mao and Stalins Era was far worse. The Rwanda conflict was genocide, Syria and Lybia is genocide. So please just stop trying to make that argument.

Although true, except for the scalping part. That was a native American thing.

The disease thing was brought by the Europeans when they first came to the New world. That has nothing to do with Americans. Thats Europeans. And the Europeans weren't even aware that the common diseases that they had in the Europe would be so deadly against the Native Americans. The Europeans were immune to those diseases while the native Americans weren't. It was an unintended consequence that both sides didn't understand at the time.

I dont understand what you are ranting about. What is your point? That the US is bad? Thats redundant. History is bad. Its filled with wars, colonization and religious conflicts. Yes, what the US did to the Native Americans was bad and Im sure if you ask anyone now, they will agree with that sentiment. Thats why they have casinos and a lot of special privliges now and the US governement has paid reparations for it. Not saying its enough, but whats done is done. But the Americans can not be blamed for small pox. The Europeans brought that over. And its false to say that the Native American war is the worst in history. The Nepolian era was far worse than the native American war regarding casualties.
Asia Afro latin Mid East

United States

#29 Apr 19, 2013
StarsplashTaiwan wrote:
<quoted text>
You are going everywhere. Focus on something and stick with it.
Your argument that this genocide is the worse in human history is still flat out false. Not only that, this wasn't even a genocide. A genocide is the war of the same people. Native Americans VS Europeans = not Genocide. Thats just war. PLease understand the difference between genocide and war. Hitler, Mao and Stalins Era was far worse. The Rwanda conflict was genocide, Syria and Lybia is genocide. So please just stop trying to make that argument.
Although true, except for the scalping part. That was a native American thing.
The disease thing was brought by the Europeans when they first came to the New world. That has nothing to do with Americans. Thats Europeans. And the Europeans weren't even aware that the common diseases that they had in the Europe would be so deadly against the Native Americans. The Europeans were immune to those diseases while the native Americans weren't. It was an unintended consequence that both sides didn't understand at the time.
I dont understand what you are ranting about. What is your point? That the US is bad? Thats redundant. History is bad. Its filled with wars, colonization and religious conflicts. Yes, what the US did to the Native Americans was bad and Im sure if you ask anyone now, they will agree with that sentiment. Thats why they have casinos and a lot of special privliges now and the US governement has paid reparations for it. Not saying its enough, but whats done is done. But the Americans can not be blamed for small pox. The Europeans brought that over. And its false to say that the Native American war is the worst in history. The Nepolian era was far worse than the native American war regarding casualties.
hey when comes to what atrocities of war did to native, you speak out. So, while we are on it it's a topic on native. Come on Us invaded natives, if i have bad cold and cough on blanket gave to you unwashed, what ill consequences?

this why US is evil, as most don't know evil US war history at home and abroad.

Read up Clueless Americans... this below is tip of iceberg, not listed are wa nd war and many wars since birth of warring US miltaristic Imperialist Empire.

UNITED STATES MILITARY INTERVENTIONS, COVERT OPERATIONS, COUPS AND ATTEMPTED COUPS, ELECTION INTERFERENCE, REGIME CHANGE, COLOR REVOLUTIONS
Hiroshima and Nagasaki (Japan), Philippines, South Korea, Lebanon, Iran, Guatemala, Cuba, Congo/Zaire, Brazil,
Greece, Poland, Turkey, Dominican Republic, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Indonesia, Chile, Angola, East TImor, Nicaragua,
Grenada, Panama, Kyrgyzstan, Haiti, Yugoslavia, Georgia, Ukraine, Argentina, Ghana, Venezuela, Bolivia, Hondoras,
Paraguay, Mexico, El Salvador, Iraq, Afghanistan, Sudan, Somalia, Pakistan, Yemen, Tunesia, Egypt, Libya, Syria,...
"If Nuremberg were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged."
Noam Chomsky

Look what i found
Asia Afro latin Mid East

United States

#30 Apr 19, 2013
GENOCIDE OF NATIVE AMERICANS - Operation Morning Star
www.operationmorningstar.org/genocide_of_nati...

GENOCIDE OF NATIVE AMERICANS: A SOCIOLOGICAL VIEW. The term Genocide derives from the Latin (genos=race, tribe; cide=killing) and means literally the killing or ...
Asia Afro latin Mid East

United States

#31 Apr 19, 2013
The term Genocide derives from the Latin (genos=race, tribe; cide=killing) and means literally the killing or murder of an entire tribe or people. The Oxford English Dictionary defines genocide as "the deliberate and systematic extermination of an ethnic or national group" and cites the first usage of the term as R. Lemkin, Axis Rule in Occupied Europe,(1944) p.79. "By 'genocide' we mean the destruction of a nation or an ethnic group." The U.N. General Assembly adopted this term and defended it in 1946 as "....a denial of the right of existence of entire human groups." Most people tend to associate genocide with wholesale slaughter of a specific people. However, "the 1994 U.N. Convention on the Punishment and Prevention of the Crime of Genocide, describes genocide beyond outright murder of people as the destruction and extermination of culture." Article II of the convention lists five categories of activity as genocidal when directed against a specific "national, ethnic, racial, or religious group."

These categories are:
Killing members of the group;
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of group;
Deliberately infliction on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Genocide or the deliberate extermination of one ethnic group by another is not new, for example in 1937 the Pequot Indians were exterminated by the Colonists when they burned their villages in Mystic, Connecticut, and then shot all the other people -- including women and children -- who tried to escape. The United States Government has refused to ratify the U.N. convention on genocide. There are many facets of genocide which have been implemented upon indigenous peoples of North America. The list of American genocidal policies includes: Mass-execution, Biological warfare, Forced Removal from homelands, Incarceration, Indoctrination of non-indigenous values, forced surgical sterilization of native women, Prevention of religious practices, just to name a few.
Asia Afro latin Mid East

United States

#32 Apr 19, 2013
United Nations Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, 1948


The Contracting Parties confirm that genocide, whether committed in time of peace or in time of war, is a crime under international law which they undertake to prevent and to punish. In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group as such:...(c) Deliberately inflicting on group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part... Persons committing genocide or any of the acts enumerated in Article III shall be punished, whether they are constitutionally responsible rulers. public officials, or private individuals.
Asia Afro latin Mid East

United States

#33 Apr 19, 2013
Mark Zepezauer, Boomerang, p20

Through the 1990s, the U.S. and Britain kept a tight lid on Iraqi imports, and cynically blamed Saddam for the resulting suffering. Iraq's children were hardest hit, dying of malnutrition and easily preventable diseases at the rate of 5000 a month—the equivalent of a 9/11 disaster every 30 days. After eleven years of sanctions, more than 1.2 million Iraqi civilians have perished, more than half under the age of 18.
Asia Afro latin Mid East

United States

#34 Apr 19, 2013
Michael Parenti, Sword and Dollar, p43

Upon taking the Philippines from Spain in 1898, the US then had to fight a bloody three-year war against Filipino rebels. In Luzon alone over 600,000 people were killed by American troops or died from war-related diseases and privations-as the war against the guerrillas became a war against the people who supported the guerrillas. US General Arthur MacArthur issued a proclamation renouncing "precise observance of the laws of war." Among other things, MacArthur's troops tortured and executed prisoners (civilians included), destroyed crops, food stores, domestic animals, boats, and whole villages, and forced tens of thousands of Filipinos into "relocation camps." In 1901 the Philadelphia Ledger carried a dispatch from its Manila correspondent:

Our men... have killed to exterminate men, women, children, prisoners and captives, active insurgents and suspected people from lads of 10 up .... Our soldiers have pumped salt water into men to "make them talk," and have taken prisoners people who held up their hands and peacefully surrendered, and an hour later... stood them on a bridge and shot them down one by one, to drop into the water below and float down, as examples to those who found their bullet-loaded corpses."

A Republican member of Congress gave an eyewitness report on the war:

You never hear of any disturbances in Northern Luzon ... because there isn't anybody there to rebel. That country was marched over and cleared out .... The good lord in Heaven only knows the number of Filipinos that were put under the ground; our soldiers took no prisoners; they kept no records; they simply swept the country and wherever or however they could get hold of a Filipino they killed him."
Asia Afro latin Mid East

United States

#35 Apr 19, 2013
Denis Halliday, United Nations
Anatomy of an Imperial War Crime
the (US) invasion and occupation of Iraq
by Ashley Smith

You have a situation where we see thousands of deaths per month, a possible total of 1 million to 1.5 million over the last nine years. If that is not genocide, then I don't know quite what is. There's no better word I can think of. Genocide is taking place right now, every day, in Iraq's cities.
Asia Afro latin Mid East

United States

#36 Apr 19, 2013
Daniel Jonah Goldhagen
interviewed by Spiegel.de
(US)'Mass Slaughter Is a Systemic Problem of the Modern World'
www.spiegel.de/

[(USA) The dropping of the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki] was mass murder. The people in these cities were overwhelmingly non-combatants. The bombings were not necessary for ending the war. The Japanese were ready to surrender and President Harry Truman knew it.
Asia Afro latin Mid East

United States

#37 Apr 19, 2013
Howard Zinn

American Genocides: Is Haiti Next?
by Stephen Lendman

[American slavery is] the most cruel form in history: the frenzy for limitless profit that comes from capitalistic agriculture; the reduction of the slave to less than human status by the use of racial hatred, with that relentless clarity based on color, where white was master, black was slave.
Asia Afro latin Mid East

United States

#38 Apr 19, 2013
American Genocides: Is Haiti Next?
by Stephen Lendman(US) dioxin-containing defoliant Agent Orange was used, mainly in the South [Vietnam], Cambodia and Laos. Millions of gallons were sprayed with devastating consequences because dioxin is one of the most toxic known substances, a potent carcinogenic human immune system suppressant. It accumulates in adipose tissue and the liver, alters living cell genetic structures, causes congenital disorders and birth defects, and contributes to diseases like cancer and type two diabetes.

(Over 2 million vietnamese died at US warring policy -Us militaristic Imperialism interventionist PNAC warring global agendas. US manifest Destiny - Evil!).

Since: Feb 12

Taipei, Taiwan

#40 Apr 19, 2013
Listen... If you are trying to convince me that the US is evil because America killed people, then join the club. All countries and races have contributed to some kind of atrocities in their history.

If you are trying to convince me that the US is evil because somehow in ur mind, we killed more than anyone in the world, History proves you wrong. I have already proved you wrong by stating that the Mao and the Stalin regimes have killed much more than the US has in all wars combined.

I am not clueless. I know the US history, but clearly, you want to skip all of history and only focus on US atrocities and forget the rest of the world. You have the Khmer Rouge, The Mexican cartels, Civil wars all over the world, Religious wars, you have suicide bombings and bombings of innocent people in the middle east in the name of religion... etc... I can go on if you like. So don't make it sound like the US is the only evil thing on the planet, because that's bullshit.

Clearly no matter what happens, you are anti-American and there is nothing that will change that, which is ironic because if your location is correct, it states you are in the US. If you hate the US so much, MOVE!!!! If not, I suggest you understand why it happened, instead of just spilling hatred because of historical atrocities and tragedies. Its a weak argument because every country has gone through those low points. Like why did the US drop the two atomic bombs? Or why we used Agent Orange in Vietnam? Or why slavery was used (slavery isn't just exclusive to the US you know)? Or why the US is in the middle East. I mean, I do. I know about manifest destiny that lead to the expansion of the American frontier, but that doesn't mean I support or condone it.

Im done with this. Do whatever you want. But to say that the US has killed more people in the world than any country is just completely false and that was what the conversation was about at first. Everything else, you just expanded just because I don't agree with you. Im not going to even bother trying to explain anymore to you since nothing I say will matter.

Bye.
CCP makes CHINA STUPID

Port Moody, Canada

#41 Apr 19, 2013
StarsplashTaiwan wrote:
<quoted text>
Ummm.. those were Europeans. Europeans settled the Americas, such as Spain, Portugal etc... And they didn't physically kill them, disease killed the native Americans.
You are confusing Europeans for Americans. It was the Europeans that you are referring to. There was no such thing as Americans back then. The American race concept was something that came from the Revolutionary war against the British where people that lived in the North America wanted to be separated by the British.
These CCP are SO IGNORANT of history, aren't they?

It's almost funny how backwards and ill-educated they are!

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