Chinese automakers struggle against g...

Chinese automakers struggle against global rivals

There are 13 comments on the SanLuisObispo.com story from Apr 18, 2013, titled Chinese automakers struggle against global rivals. In it, SanLuisObispo.com reports that:

Workers walk past a poster of a car ahead of the Shanghai International Automobile Industry Exhibition at the Shanghai International Exhibition Center in Shanghai, China Thursday, April 18, 2013.

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Old Jew

San Francisco, CA

#1 Apr 18, 2013
China will sell and produce over eight million domestic autos this year , not bad. But the thing is foreign autos will be 13 million. Total projected sale this yr 21 million, not bad, way more than any other country in the world.
It is Amazing

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#2 Apr 18, 2013
Old Jew wrote:
China will sell and produce over eight million domestic autos this year , not bad. But the thing is foreign autos will be 13 million. Total projected sale this yr 21 million, not bad, way more than any other country in the world.
Qoros 3 Sedan debuts on the Geneva Motor Show
MARCH 6, 2013

The Qoros 3 Sedan has been launched on the Geneva Motor Show, alongside the the Qoros 3 Estate Concept and the Qoros 3 Cross Hybrid Concept. The Qoros 3 sedan will be launched on the Chinese car market in the second half of this year, priced from 90.000 to 110.000 yuan.

Launch in Europe is planned for late 2013 but Qoros didn’t say for which countries, they did however say the price will range from 12.000 to 14.000 euro. Qoros is a brand of Chery-Quantum, a joint venture between Chery Auto of China and Quantum LLC of Israel.
2faces

Guangzhou, China

#3 Apr 18, 2013
As i walk passed the automobiles parked at my Chinese apartment building, I count the foreign brands and the Chinese brands. The ratio is about 10 to 1 in favor of the foreign brands.

Until China can build dependable automobiles with original designs that the people want this ratio will not change much unless the foreign brads increase.

China is not noted for creativity or ideas. They are good at copying or stealing the ideas or designs of others.
Old China

San Francisco, CA

#4 Apr 18, 2013
China is the most innovative and creative country in the world. More patents ,licenses, scientists, more published research papers and more percentage of R and D per GDP than any where else in the world. 2013 40% of the autos sold in China will be domestic. The China and Israel joint venture will be a big success. You can bashed China all you want but China with the help of the Jews will moved forward. What we did for America ,we will do for China.
Old Jew

San Francisco, CA

#5 Apr 18, 2013
Old Jew not Old China, sorry. This joint ventue Israel and China will be producing a hybrid that will get around 75 miles per gallon and will be out in 2014 by then it may be even more than 75 miles per gallon. Can u imagined, 1,000 miles on 13.5 gallons of gas. I will take one.
CCP makes CHINA WEAK

Port Moody, Canada

#6 Apr 18, 2013
"China's failure to follow its neighbors Japan and South Korea in creating at least one global auto brand - even after this country passed the United States in 2009 as the biggest auto market - has frustrated communist leaders.

They see auto making as a national priority - the "industry of industries" that supports higher-paid jobs in fields from manufacturing to electronics to chemicals. They have spent two decades giving producers subsidies and other help.

Beijing issued development plans in the early 1990s that called for creating three globally competitive auto groups. Since then, planners have changed course repeatedly after efforts to create success by decree failed to pan out."

Obviously, the Chinese Communist Party system leads only to failure and waste. All the hollow boasting in the world will not changer the facts.
Old Jew

San Francisco, CA

#7 Apr 18, 2013
I am confident, that this joint venture between the Jews and China will smoke any automaker in Japan, s korea or the USA. The Jews are in charge of quality control, financing and marketing. Need I say more?
CCP makes CHINA WEAK

Port Moody, Canada

#8 Apr 18, 2013
from;
http://www.economist.com/news/special-report/ ...


"The market share of Chinese brands has continued to slide, from about 30% in late 2009 to less than 26% by the end of 2012. China’s favourite car last year was the Ford Focus. The rest of the top ten was made up of four kinds of VW, three GMs and two Hyundais."

WOW! Such a TOTAL FAILURE of Chinese Communist Party economic planning!

The "plan" said they would dominate the world market by now, but they can't even hold onto their own domestic market!

CCP are SUCH INCOMPETENT LOSERS!
Ginobili

San Francisco, CA

#9 Apr 18, 2013
This Miro is so evil, anti 1.4 billion ppl. but it is only killing him, that hatred for 1.4 billion ppl. China is florishing, they will sell over 8 million domestic autos this year. Whatever Miro is, his country is doing bad that is why he is this way. Even if he want to be a Chinese , the Chinese will not accept him, he was never in China and do not know a word of Chinese too bad.
It is Amazing

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#10 Apr 18, 2013
being a late starter and from a low base. The auto market is China can be described as AMAZING and REMARKABLE.

Here is one from "Geely", a Chinese homegrown brand.

GEELY BREAKTHROUGH.

With its increasing experience with R&D and manufacturing technology, the Chinese automaker possesses the capacity to make cars with same quality as that made by joint ventures. Its growth of product power wins higher evaluation and better impression of Geely and its three sub-brands from consumers. And the gradually developed brand image and reputation are becoming the company's market motivators.

The latest statistics shows Geely's monthly sales set another RECORD in December 2012, increasing to 59,654 units, UP 24 percent compared with a year earlier and 16 percent on a month-on-month basis. Besides, 483,483 cars were sold in 2012, with a year-on-year growth of 15 percent. No doubt, it is the technical breakthroughs that contribute significantly to the growth. The Gleagle GX7 and Emgrand EC7 are cases in point. The Gleagle GX7 has been gaining steady monthly sales growth since its launch and the Emgrand EC7 has set several records in monthly sales.

The domestic automaker started a test driving program for models with 6-speed automatic transmissions (6ATs) in Shenzhen since December and launched four new models, the Gleagle GX7/GC7, Emgrand EC8 and Englon SC7. These models carrying DSI 6ATs provide more consumers with the chances to pursue cars with 6ATs, as well as breaking the monopoly of foreign companies in high-end automatic transmission production.  

Liu Jinliang, the Vice President and General Manager of Sales Company of Zhejiang Geely Holding Group, told the media that in the near future, the company would install DSI 6ATs on models with engines of 1.8L and above, and also install automatic transmissions on models with smaller engines, which definitely would bring dramatic changes to present car market.

It is known that the leading foreign brands took the advantage of the homegrown brands' less competence in car R&D and occupied China's car market, especially in the field of automatic transmission R&D and manufacturing, which becomes a huge bottleneck to the research and development of core components and parts for domestic brands. Since the ACQUISISTION of Australian Drivetrain Systems International (DSI) in 2009, Geely has made great efforts on the matching of DSI 6AT. Through three years of efforts on technology localization and matching, Geely brought in the most advanced automatic production line to start mass production of DSI 6ATs. Meanwhile, this means that China's domestic brands have broken through the bottleneck and had the ability to compete with foreign brands.

According to Liu, the cost of DSI 6ATs produced in the company's Xiangtan plant has been reduced to 10,000 yuan per one, so that more and more consumers could enjoy the benefits brought by technical progress. The company would sell more models with automatic transmissions, up to 40 percent of its total sales within three years, said him.

Besides breaking through the bottleneck of automatic transmission R&D and manufacturing, Geely has yielded fruitful results in car safety technology and engine R&D, according to the information available. For instance, the Gleagle GX7 was rated five-plus stars in a C-NCAP test, and all the models involved in the test driving program are equipped with GeTec engines. In addition, in 2013, the company will RELEASE NEW MODELS equipped with small-displacement and SUPERCHARGED engines.
Sydney

Bexley, Australia

#11 Apr 18, 2013
Mirotard, do you remember how long it took Hyundai to make a decent car? 10 years ago Hyundai excels were an absolute joke, look at them now. Everything good takes time mate, doesn't grow and multiple overnight like your stupidity.
Old Jew

San Francisco, CA

#12 Apr 19, 2013
Like I told you China can't be stopped, it is moving forward like a freight train. China produced autos are being sold in many countries exept some of the Western countries who think that they can still monopolized, they r making a big mistake.
CCP makes CHINA WEAK

Port Moody, Canada

#14 Apr 19, 2013
2faces wrote:
As i walk passed the automobiles parked at my Chinese apartment building, I count the foreign brands and the Chinese brands. The ratio is about 10 to 1 in favor of the foreign brands.
Until China can build dependable automobiles with original designs that the people want this ratio will not change much unless the foreign brads increase.
China is not noted for creativity or ideas. They are good at copying or stealing the ideas or designs of others.
Yes, Chinese companies will be behind so long as the stifling CCP regime remains in power.

So sad for China to be so continually second-rate and hamstrung by the CCP's "special needs".

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