Why is China such a Failure in Science?

Why is China such a Failure in Science?

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CCP is USELESS and DYING

Surrey, Canada

#1 Dec 10, 2013
China Lacks Nobel Values for True Scientific Progress
Posted: 12/10/2013 9:34 am

China is "at the forefront of medicine, hi-tech and computing," British Chancellor George Osborne announced on a recent visit to Beijing. Global tests for 15-year-olds show the youth of Shanghai are comfortably outperforming the rest of the world in science, as well as in reading and maths. Breathless media reports routinely refer to China as a "new scientific superpower".

Headlines and sound bites would have you believe that China has already succeeded in transforming itself into an innovation-powered economy. Yet serious questions persist over China's true capacity to create. And no one is more aware of its limitations than China itself.

Its acute insecurity will once again reach fever pitch during Tuesday's Nobel Prize Award Ceremonies. The Communist Party has long craved a homegrown Nobel science prize; evidence of a technological power to match its economic might and a vindication of the astonishing £243 billion China has poured into the development of science and technology in the last seven years. Another year passes, another unsuccessful bid. The reality is that no Nobel science winner has been a product of Communist China's education system.

Triumph in the Nobel science category has become entwined in China's resurgent nationalism, a national priority on a par with the hosting of a successful Olympics or landing a spacecraft on the moon, a dream that looks set to be realised later this month. That Mo Yan, a mainland Chinese writer, won the Nobel Prize in Literature in 2012 in many ways magnified the government's frustration. After all, Chinese writers develop their craft in a constrained, illiberal environment, while leading scientists have access to limitless financial resources.

The reasons for China's failure to win the prestigious award are plentiful. An education system enslaved to rote learning and test scores is one. Professor Zheng Yefu, a sociologist at Beijing's Peking University, insists that no matter what university you study at -- Harvard, Yale, Oxford or Cambridge -- you have no chance of winning a Nobel Prize for science if you have spent your first 12 years in a Chinese school. An exaggeration perhaps but the premise of his argument is sound: that, individuality, curiosity, imagination and creativity are simply expunged by the Chinese education system.

There is a paucity of excellent Chinese scientists. Confucian doctrine teaches that "a good scholar will make an official" and some of the best scientists are more than willing to leave their labs for respected administrative roles that are most likely tied to enormous resources.

Entrenched political and social barriers further hinder progress. The Chinese academic system binds students to their mentors. Mentors are authority figures as formidable as strict parents, and to challenge them is unacceptable. This blind loyalty discourages criticism of senior academics and the science they advocate.

Chinese scientists complain the allocation of research funding is not meritocratic. There is little encouragement for scepticism towards existing theories, especially when those theories are propounded by senior academics that hold the departmental purse strings.

Equally, there are few incentives for researchers to risk exploring the unknown, as the system does not tolerate 'failure' in research terms. Consequently Chinese scientists are more likely to conduct research that yields quick and achievable outcomes, rather than fostering grander aspirations for the advancement of knowledge.

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CCP is USELESS and DYING

Surrey, Canada

#2 Dec 10, 2013
......All these factors converge to create one fundamental obstacle to China's pursuit of a Nobel science prize: it is simply unable to embrace the values that underpin it.

In rewarding those who confer the "greatest benefit on mankind," the Nobel Prize in science embodies an appreciation and celebration of not merely breakthroughs, discoveries and creativity but a universal set of values that are shared and practiced by scientists regardless of nationality or culture. It is recognition of the latter that can achieve the former.

China's embrace of science only dates back to the May Fourth Demonstrations in 1919 when scholars, disillusioned with the direction of the new Chinese republic following the fall of the Qing Dynasty, called for a move away from traditional Chinese culture to Western ideals -- or, as they termed it, a rejection of 'Mr. Confucius' and the acceptance of 'Mr. Science' and 'Mr. Democracy'.

However these concepts of science and democracy differed markedly from those advocated in the West and were used primarily as vehicles to attack Confucianism. The science championed during the May Fourth movement was celebrated not for its 'Enlightenment' values but for its pragmatism, its usefulness.

Francis Bacon's maxim "knowledge is power" ran right through Mao Zedong's view of science following the founding of the People's Republic in 1949. Science and technology were considered as integral components of nation-building: leading academics contributed their knowledge for the sole purpose of modernising industry, agriculture and national defence.

The notion of saving the nation through science during the Nationalist regime in the 1920s and 1930s has translated into current Communist government policies of "revitalising the nation with science, technology, and education" and "strengthening the nation through talent". A report by Nesta in October argued that China should be regarded as "an absorptive state", adding practical value to existing foreign technologies rather than creating novel technologies of its own.

This materialistic emphasis reflects the use of science as a means to a political end to make China powerful and prosperous. However a series of high-profile fraud scandals involving leading scientists at China's top academic institutions have raised concerns over this highly utilitarian view of science -- and have led to calls for China to truly embrace the universal values of science as a means to take the country forward.

These core values of truth-seeking, integrity, intellectual curiosity, the challenging of authority and, above all, freedom of inquiry are shared by scientists all over the world. In this sense there is no such thing as "Chinese" science or "British science", or science "with Chinese characteristics".

On his latest visit to Beijing, U.S. Vice President Joe Biden told a group of young Chinese that "innovation can only occur when you breathe free" and that "children in America are rewarded -- not punished -- for challenging the status quo".

The Chinese leadership would do well to apply these principles to the nurturing of its next generation of scientists. Only when it abandons cold-blooded pragmatism for a value-driven approach to science can it hope to win a coveted Nobel prize and ascend to real superpower status.
It is so Amazing

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#3 Dec 10, 2013
"Headlines and sound bites would have you believe that China has already succeeded in transforming itself into an innovation-powered economy. Yet serious questions persist over China's true capacity to create. And no one is more aware of its limitations than China itself."

LOL I nearly died laughing reading comment like the one above. How naive can one gets?

Then why can't the West uses their so-called creativity to transform themselves OUT of the LITTLE SHITHOLE that turns into a GIANT SHITHOLE they created.

China GDP is already back on course for the last 3 months with their PMI, GDP rising creating the biggest surplus in 4 years and recorded their lowest CPI in years. SO all these event prove Chinese are lacking in creativity and innovation. Hahahahaha

The over innovative West has created the Lithium battery that failed due to overheating in the case of Boeing dreamliner but China lack of innovation has created yet another version of Lithium battery that can be charges in 10 second and run an electric car for 400 km.

Why did David Cameroon did a 180 degree trun to acommodate China after being so arrogant and adamant about their right to interfere with the internal affair of other nation?

The truth is every Western leaders have to learn their lesson in dealing with the Middle Kingdom. Some are quick learner while others are simply DUMB! You cannot afford to offend your No. Trading Partners and No. Banker! They can foreclose or withdraw their loans to you.

IMO Australian Tony Abbot is DUMB!
It is so Amazing

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#4 Dec 10, 2013
Australia which use to receiving ODI worth 34 billion USD alone from China has now to be contend with whatever China will offer for the future as like one DUMMY Aussie FM says, everything appears normal after summoning Chinese charge affair to registered Aussie protest over China ADIZ that has nothing to do with her or the eavesdropping and spying on the Indonesian President and the country itself.

Why did Australian elects themselves such DUMMIES for leaders? It is simply unbelievable and DUMB! many businessmen in Australia must be shaking their head in disbelief.

China will definitely respond to Australia, MARK MY WORD or I am not a China watcher for nothing! China can be very patience with their response but they will definitely be delivered. The quiet and effective Chinese approach or culture.
It is so Amazing

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#5 Dec 10, 2013
USA VP Joe Biden has a real and hidden agenda to Asia. An almost Mission Impossible to save face after talking so big.
Flying two B52 to China ADIZ is a child's play in comparison.

The US VP needs to convince China to maintain and maybe buy more US treasury bonds to keep USD relevant. In Nov. 2013. the Bank of China hinted that China will rid off some of their USA treasury bond they are holding.

MONEY is such powerful tool today!
CCP is OBSOLETE

Surrey, Canada

#6 Dec 11, 2013
"The reasons for China's failure to win the prestigious award are plentiful. An education system enslaved to rote learning and test scores is one. Professor Zheng Yefu, a sociologist at Beijing's Peking University, insists that no matter what university you study at -- Harvard, Yale, Oxford or Cambridge -- you have no chance of winning a Nobel Prize for science if you have spent your first 12 years in a Chinese school. "

Yes, a CCP China education cripples you for life.....
RayH

Shenzhen, China

#7 Dec 14, 2013
Miro-dog: How do you like the Jade Rabbit's landing on the moon?

Get instructions on self-immolation from your Dollar Lama.
It is so Amazing

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#8 Dec 14, 2013
You don't need a Nobel Prize based on achievement considered as achievement by politicians from Norway Parliament!

Chinese scientists without any NOBEL PRIZE award or politicians is making a fool out of these award e.g. PEACE NOBEL PRIZE given to OBAMA based on what. Obama is peaceful???? Hahahaha

A failed Education system as alleged MIROTARD and they score higher than Singapore, Hong Kong, South Korea, Taiwan... DO they mean SUCCESS instead?
RayH

Shenzhen, China

#9 Dec 14, 2013
It is so Amazing wrote:
You don't need a Nobel Prize based on achievement considered as achievement by politicians from Norway Parliament!
Chinese scientists without any NOBEL PRIZE award or politicians is making a fool out of these award e.g. PEACE NOBEL PRIZE given to OBAMA based on what. Obama is peaceful???? Hahahaha
A failed Education system as alleged MIROTARD and they score higher than Singapore, Hong Kong, South Korea, Taiwan... DO they mean SUCCESS instead?
And Shanghai scored much higher than U.S., Canada, and U.K.
CCP is OBSOLETE

Surrey, Canada

#10 Dec 15, 2013
RayH wrote:
Miro-dog: How do you like the Jade Rabbit's landing on the moon?
Get instructions on self-immolation from your Dollar Lama.
You mean the duplication of what the US and Russia did FIFTY YEARS AGO?

Late, lame, obviously.
CCP is USELESS and DYING

Surrey, Canada

#11 Dec 15, 2013
RayH wrote:
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And Shanghai scored much higher than U.S., Canada, and U.K.
But China as a whole would be far, far, far BEHIND, eh?

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