Tension soars as Vietnam says China sank its fishing boat

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HANOI/BEIJING - Tension soared in the South China Sea Tuesday after Vietnam and China traded barbs and blamed each other for the sinking of a Vietnamese fishing boat in the disputed waters where Beijing is said to have placed an oil rig.

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hoa tuyen 1 gioi

Beckenham, UK

#87 Jun 7, 2014
bach dang wrote:
<quoted text>uk bum does not represent any one but by himself
.

funny,,as my self i don't have any problem to disputing with any one,,

and no one want me to representing for them any way,,
McQuan

London, UK

#88 Jun 7, 2014
Drgunzet wrote:
I read an article: Chiang Kai Shek wanted to forge an alliance with Japan for the rise of Asians. Japan acts as the brain while China acts as the brawn. But Mao Zedong wanted China to lead Asians as both brain and brawn. I think Mao Zedong has shown to have bitten more than he and China can handle, starting with the Great Leap Forward. It was a total disaster right?
I sure hope this time China's ambition to world super power is another Great Leap Forward disaster. China's economy is facing danger of real estate bubble burst, shadow loans implosion, trade export collapse (embargo). Just push China, and the sand castle will collapse quickly as it was built.
Could well be before Japan invaded China, you have to remember many Chinese leaders were educated in Japan then since china was pretty weak during the end of Qing dynasty and the strings of civil wars. Even when Mao's culture revolution and great leap forward failed, the person whom he entrusted, Lin Biao, decided that enough is enough and wanted to collude with KMT in Taiwan to save China from Mao's rule. ROC was doing extremely weell in comparison with PRC then. Of course Mao found out about and had him purged in an staged aircraft accident.

Today's global economy is too integrated, a collapse of Chinese economy will spell disaster for global economy. I believe China will engineer a soft landing while they reform the structure of its economy. Challenging yes, but they had performed miracle before, so I am not betting on a full scale collapse, a correction at most.
DIEDBEOKAPDRU3GA YTRANKFPT

United States

#89 Jun 7, 2014
KOREANS F UCK lTS MOM lTSELF,

bach dang

Gosford, Australia

#91 Jun 7, 2014
McQuan wrote:
<quoted text>
Eh...I am not related in anyway to China and I am not a Vietnamese. I hardly read Chinese media, mostly BBC, sky news and Singapore news. You think you as a Vietnamese can be more neutral than me?
mc may la du hoc sing gia bo bum uliece
bach dang

Gosford, Australia

#92 Jun 7, 2014
Andrez Lopez wrote:
<quoted text>
June 1, Wall Street Journal posted as saying Chinese general stated that Abe,Hagel speeches are provocative towards China.
So what Hagel said about China has been counter checked by the Chinese general.
Your case still remain hopeless. Don't waste time posting futilely.
Stay home make love and enjoy life instead.
so S.Hegal not represent America? and P.O bama not represent America ? they all said china provocative
Drgunzet

Boise, ID

#93 Jun 7, 2014
McQuan wrote:
<quoted text>
Could well be before Japan invaded China, you have to remember many Chinese leaders were educated in Japan then since china was pretty weak during the end of Qing dynasty and the strings of civil wars. Even when Mao's culture revolution and great leap forward failed, the person whom he entrusted, Lin Biao, decided that enough is enough and wanted to collude with KMT in Taiwan to save China from Mao's rule. ROC was doing extremely weell in comparison with PRC then. Of course Mao found out about and had him purged in an staged aircraft accident.
Today's global economy is too integrated, a collapse of Chinese economy will spell disaster for global economy. I believe China will engineer a soft landing while they reform the structure of its economy. Challenging yes, but they had performed miracle before, so I am not betting on a full scale collapse, a correction at most.
Japan in the 1970 and 1980 cheated with real estate jacked-up prices as well as the outrageously inflated golf resort price and memberships. Some golf membership club was 1 million US dollar each and was given to Japanese executives as perks. Japan had to go through the lost decade in the 1990s to corrected such huge bubbles.

But note this: Japan was not under economic attack from USA. It's a natural correction. Further more, Japan actually had a lot of true values and saved up capital to coast out of the lost decade.

China on the other hand does not have any true saved up capitals. Much of China's wealth were siphoned out and into foreign accounts.(You know about Macau's gambling right? Chinese wealthy players have two accounts. The losing tickets get posted on Chinese accounts while the winning tickets get posted on foreign accounts. The Macau casino then pay the foreign accounts while collect money from Chinese accounts.)

Further more, the ordinary Chinese are still very poor and cannot absorb much hardship. They cannot weather the economy crash. If USA perform an economic embargo, China will not survive. People will go nuts.

The last time USA manipulated oil price to $200 dollar a barrel, a lot of low margin Chinese business got crushed. I remember watching footage of poor Chinese women got locked out of the factory dormitories. The owner ran out of cash and liquidity to operate, but they were afraid of the workers going riots destroying the factories over unpaid wages. Imagine some of the women were having PMS and they were sitting on the sidewalks over night, locked out?! It was horrible.

China is performing an economic attack by artificially lower the Yuan exchange rate to keep exporting. With the surplus dollars in trade, China used it to buy US T-bonds. The American consumers become some sort of addict to cheap Chinese goods. This must stop. I am mad like hell when I talk to the lazy and fat American fan.

I told them of my childhood, got beaten till bleeding over a dispute of 10 cents worth of food. Other times, I got beaten just because I had lighter skin than other kids. I fought many fist fight and eventually became the street battle commander. War is my business. I bled many times, suffered some head concussion. But I inflicted horrific damages to my opponents. I really have issue with dark-skin Asians, it was like fighting against a different specie.

Later on, I went to school in America. I view the Americans as sheep while I am the lion. I was the best Karate student in college. I am immune to pain and have superior reflex from years of street battles. I can still eat stale food, boring food, bland food now day without getting sick. In the last two years, I decided to eat no more than 3 dollars a day. And next month I will do a brief experiment of eating a dollar a day. My White friends eat on the average 15 to 30 dollars a day. They are so fat and overweight. They cannot fathom my endurance and mind of steel.

I say, USA should go to economic war with China to lose up a feel fat people.
DIEDBEOKACSONTRA NKOREAFPT

United States

#94 Jun 7, 2014
GO AWA,

CUT' Dl,

PU SSY FACE KOREAN GAY …
DIEDBEOKACSONTRA NKOREAFPT

United States

#95 Jun 7, 2014
GO AWAY,

CUT' Dl,

CoN,

PU SSY FACE KOREAN GAY …
Shinichiro Takizawa

Japan

#97 Jun 7, 2014
Nikkei-225 must be 150,000-Yen now!
when Japan raises its consumpotion-tax-rate, Nikkei-225 must be 300,000-Yen in order to cancel out the effect of Japan's rising consumption-tax-rate!
American-stock-prices must crash now!
Dow must be $3,000 and S&P must be 300 now!
American-bond-prices must crash now!
The U.S. must tighten its monetary-policy now!
The U.S. must contract its domestic-demand now!
So, the U.S. must raise dolalr-value now!
Economic-bubble of the U.S. must crash now!
Economic-growth-rate of the U.S. must be lower than economic-growth-rates of Japan, China, Taiwan, Spouth-Korea, Germany and Russia now!
Japan's, China's, Taiwan's, South-Korea's, Germany's and Russia's stock-prices must be 10-times as high as their current-stock-prices now!
Japan, China, Taiwan, South-Korea, Germany and Russia must loosen theirm onetary-policies now!
Japan, China, Taiwan, South-Korea, Germany and Russia must expand their domestic-demands now!
Japan, China, Taiwan, South-Korea, Germany and Russia must be competitive-societies now!
Economic-bubbles must occur in Japan, China, Taiwan, South-Korea, Germany and Russia now!
Japan, China, Taiwan, South-Korea, Germany and Russia must make a shift from manufacturing to the service-industries in Japan, China, Taiwan, South-Korea, Germany and Russia now!
Japan's, China's, Taiwan's, South-Korea's, Germany's and Russia's economies must move from manufacturing-bases more towars service-bases now!
The U.S. must have Universal-Health-Care only in the U.S. Only among Americans now!
The U.S. must decrease the gap between the rich and the poor only in the U.S. only among Americans now!
The U.S. must revive Labor-Unions only in the U.S. only among Americans now!
The U.S. must revive antitrust-law only in the U.S. only for Americans now!
Minimum-wage of Americans must be $70,000 per person per year now!
Jobless-rate of the U.S. must be 2% now!
The U.S. must revive American-Heavy-Industry only in the U.S. only for Americans now!
The U.S. must be the world's factory now!
The U.S. must fill the world with Made-in-U.S.A.-products now!
The U.S. must be the largest creditor-nation in the world ever in world-history now!
The U.S. must have 5-trillion-dollar-current-acco unt-surplus per yer and 5-trillion-dollar-trade-surplu s per year now!
American-makers and the U.S. must monopolizeall the markets all over the world now!
Chechen Independence war, South Ossetia war, Uyghur (Xinjiang) Independence war, Tibetan Independence war,
Japan-China war, Japan-Russia war, Japan-S.Korea war, Japan-N.Korea war
Asian war, Korean war, Sino-Vietnamese war, Sino-Russia war, Sino-Indina war, Indo-Pakistani war, China-Malysia war, China-Indonesia war,
European war, Germnay-Russia war, British-Russia war, British-Spain war, Falklands war, Balkan war, Cod war, Northern Ireland Independence war, Intifada,
must begin now!
The U.S. must not involve in these wars!
The U.S. must make cars, ships, steel, airplanes, PCs and home-electric-applainces, etc. in the U.S.,
and the U.S. must export those cars, ships, steel, airplanes, PCs and home-electric-applainces, etc. from the U.S. to the world now!
Occupy Wall Street!
We American-99% need “Occupy Wall Street” only in the U.S. only for Americans now!
McQuan

London, UK

#98 Jun 8, 2014
HOA TIEN 1 GIOI wrote:
well according to your post now is it clearly that you has changing your direction,
but is it nice thing to changing,,
if is it in your point of view,,then all of us we have a same common ground,,peaceful region,,that will be the best for all,.
looking back,,we all get killed by other continent,,vietnam was the most suffer country in the Asian histories,,
FRANCE KILLED THEM,,Janpanese killed them,,usa killed them china killed them,,
when the french left,, they took with them a full bag of 2 faces,,
then usa left they took with them several bags of 2 faces with them as well, vietnamese people they has been brain washed as a hatred,,each other ever since,,
now my generation has learned a lots,,hating each other,, and revenging that was a sin policy,,
good hate sin,so we wouldn't committed SIN,,
hahaha, me change position? no way. I just don't want asian countries to fight among themselves, especially under the manipulation of America. Last thing I want to see is prosperous Asia becoming like Africa and middle east where American can destabilise any country to defend its interest. Even in Ukraine, before the protest in Kiev ended, America is already plotting on who they want for the next government of Ukraine. What they didn't expect was Russia was listening and that conversion was on the internet for all to hear. Secondly, they didn't expect Putin to move so swiftly in Crimea with almost 100% support from the people.

Vietnam is the Afghanistan of Asia, occupied by many powers. But for the last 150 years, I don't think China was better off, civil wars for more than a century followed by invasion by America, Europeans, Japan, Russia and even India. Certainly by Japanese alone, number of people killed directly or indirectly could easily reach 100 millions people. So the question is whether you want Vietnam and China to continue fighting or work towards peace, given the difference today is mickey mouse compared with those faced by the previous generations.
McQuan

London, UK

#99 Jun 8, 2014
Drgunzet wrote:
<quoted text>
Japan in the 1970 and 1980 cheated with real estate jacked-up prices as well as the outrageously inflated golf resort price and memberships. Some golf membership club was 1 million US dollar each and was given to Japanese executives as perks. Japan had to go through the lost decade in the 1990s to corrected such huge bubbles.
But note this: Japan was not under economic attack from USA. It's a natural correction. Further more, Japan actually had a lot of true values and saved up capital to coast out of the lost decade.
China on the other hand does not have any true saved up capitals. Much of China's wealth were siphoned out and into foreign accounts.(You know about Macau's gambling right? Chinese wealthy players have two accounts. The losing tickets get posted on Chinese accounts while the winning tickets get posted on foreign accounts. The Macau casino then pay the foreign accounts while collect money from Chinese accounts.)
Further more, the ordinary Chinese are still very poor and cannot absorb much hardship.
China is performing an economic attack by artificially lower the Yuan exchange rate to keep exporting. With the surplus dollars in trade, China used it to buy US T-bonds. The American consumers become some sort of addict to cheap Chinese goods. This must stop. I am mad like hell when I talk to the lazy and fat American fan.
I told them of my childhood, got beaten till bleeding over a dispute of 10 cents worth of food. Other times, I got beaten just because I had lighter skin than other kids. I fought many fist fight and eventually became the street battle commander. War is my business. I bled many times, suffered some head concussion. But I inflicted horrific damages to my opponents. I really have issue with dark-skin Asians, it was like fighting against a different specie.
Later on, I went to school in America. I view the Americans as sheep while I am the lion. I was the best Karate student in college. I am immune to pain and have superior reflex from years of street battles. I can still eat stale food, boring food, bland food now day without getting sick. In the last two years, I decided to eat no more than 3 dollars a day. And next month I will do a brief experiment of eating a dollar a day. My White friends eat on the average 15 to 30 dollars a day. They are so fat and overweight. They cannot fathom my endurance and mind of steel.

I say, USA should go to economic war with China to lose up a feel fat people.
Japan and Germany, and to certain degree Taiwan and Korea, all went through the phase when America forced an appreciation of their currency. What they didn't expect was each time they do that, the target countries responded by improving their products making them more competitive and better chance of surviving in the long run. While at the same time, the American remains fat, as you put it. However the difference to China is both Japan and Germany's domestic markets are relatively small, hence if export markets hit a stop, their growth will be affected.

China has reached a milestone and is entering the next stage of the economy reform, I hope they can do it. I am not one of those who want to see China fails just so that some others can continue to be superior. Yes, I do think there are many problems in China... social, economical, political and even internal and external security issues, but they will overcome them. It is not as if Europe and America have no problems. If America wants a war to go on a diet, then there is nothing China can do but to face it. In fact the chinese has been preparing for war for so long without a single bullet fired, its army desperately needs real battle experience and its younger generation may be getting a bit complacent.

What happened to your childhood, seem a bit of a drama to me? Mine wasn't particularly easy, but I was lucky to meet the right people.
vietcongkhonnan

Milton, Canada

#100 Jun 8, 2014
4 chu tot 16 vang phai sua lai la 4 chu phan 16 chu cut
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE

Richmond, Canada

#101 Jun 9, 2014
Drgunzet wrote:
<quoted text>
China is performing an economic attack by artificially lower the Yuan exchange rate to keep exporting. With the surplus dollars in trade, China used it to buy US T-bonds. The American consumers become some sort of addict to cheap Chinese goods. This must stop. I am mad like hell when I talk to the lazy and fat American fan.
I told them of my childhood, got beaten till bleeding over a dispute of 10 cents worth of food. Other times, I got beaten just because I had lighter skin than other kids. I fought many fist fight and eventually became the street battle commander. War is my business. I bled many times, suffered some head concussion. But I inflicted horrific damages to my opponents. I really have issue with dark-skin Asians, it was like fighting against a different specie.
Later on, I went to school in America. I view the Americans as sheep while I am the lion. I was the best Karate student in college. I am immune to pain and have superior reflex from years of street battles. I can still eat stale food, boring food, bland food now day without getting sick. In the last two years, I decided to eat no more than 3 dollars a day. And next month I will do a brief experiment of eating a dollar a day. My White friends eat on the average 15 to 30 dollars a day. They are so fat and overweight. They cannot fathom my endurance and mind of steel.
I say, USA should go to economic war with China to lose up a feel fat people.
LOL

what a nutcase
bach dang

Gosford, Australia

#102 Jun 9, 2014
Andrez Lopez wrote:
<quoted text>
On the contrary I see in the long run Vietnam will be left alone. I wonder who will join forces with Vietnam to bring down China. Americans? We are tired of wars. Why would we help Vietnam to fight the Chinese? Vietnam was our enemy. We lost 60,000 men fighting to keep your communist regime to take over Vietnam. But you took over. Vietnam will be very stupid to expect us to fight for our former enemy.
News from Xinhuanet: There is an article, titled,'The Hague has no jurisdiction over the sea dispute.'
Yes, China is challenging The Hague, your last hope, so what is there for you guys to hope for.
Read it.
There is no hope in your course.
Don't waste your time to keep on posting here in this forum. Stay home and make love instead,
you view did not reflect US policy but CCP propaganda
tran

Abbotsford, Australia

#103 Jun 9, 2014
Andrez Lopez wrote:
<quoted text>
June 1, Wall Street Journal posted as saying Chinese general stated that Abe,Hagel speeches are provocative towards China.
So what Hagel said about China has been counter checked by the Chinese general.
Your case still remain hopeless. Don't waste time posting futilely.
Stay home make love and enjoy life instead.
free dom of speech nothing that fultiely as u claim..China distort the true China robb and steal neighbours sea China provocative b/cos china act Unilateral china try to change status quo... china try to claim base on fake map by KMT made up for land graps....
Drgunzet

Boise, ID

#104 Jun 9, 2014
McQuan wrote:
<quoted text>
Japan and Germany, and to certain degree Taiwan and Korea, all went through the phase when America forced an appreciation of their currency. What they didn't expect was each time they do that, the target countries responded by improving their products making them more competitive and better chance of surviving in the long run. While at the same time, the American remains fat, as you put it. However the difference to China is both Japan and Germany's domestic markets are relatively small, hence if export markets hit a stop, their growth will be affected.
China has reached a milestone and is entering the next stage of the economy reform, I hope they can do it. I am not one of those who want to see China fails just so that some others can continue to be superior. Yes, I do think there are many problems in China... social, economical, political and even internal and external security issues, but they will overcome them. It is not as if Europe and America have no problems. If America wants a war to go on a diet, then there is nothing China can do but to face it. In fact the chinese has been preparing for war for so long without a single bullet fired, its army desperately needs real battle experience and its younger generation may be getting a bit complacent.
What happened to your childhood, seem a bit of a drama to me? Mine wasn't particularly easy, but I was lucky to meet the right people.
The Chinese so far has shown the inability to make quality products. Point and case: For so long, China has failed to copy the jet engine design from the West.

I went to college. The Chinese students had high scores due to their extreme hard work, but that was their limit. My superior Aryan and I have German powers. We really have no limit. Quality comes from superiority, not the other way around.

Why I am Asian but since birth I already sensed something different from other Asian. I was honorable and logical just like the Germans while the Asians are foxy, crafty, conniving, scheming, deceptive, coning and just about anything wrong in humanity. I supposed being poor brought the worst out of humanity.

Well, I was poor too but my Germanic gene was even stronger. I always maintain my personal honor and integrity. That's German superiority.

With a clear mind, I was able to learn much faster, and memorize a lot more than a typical Asian. I would say 10 to 100 times more in many aspect. This is what I observe:

_ On the average, an Asian is inferior to a White. The Asian environment is horrible and pathetic.
_ As a whole, due to numerical advantage, the Asian folks have more chance to produce superb Asians. But the funny thing is: The superb Asian such as me, don't want to have any thing to do with the rest of the disgusting Asians.

Some time I watch this clip to enjoy cutting down the dark-skin Asians. I never forget how I had to fight them when I was young.
bach dang

Gosford, Australia

#105 Jun 10, 2014
china friendly with neighbour more benefit than create enemy
McQuan

UK

#106 Jun 10, 2014
bach dang wrote:
china friendly with neighbour more benefit than create enemy
I agree.... But this goes both way for Vietnam and Philippines also. Right now I just see US, Philippines and Japan instigating others to gang up against China. World no.1 and 3 against no.2, call that bully if you like. I don't expect China to take punches forever, so how do you expect peace in Asia?
wukan club

Beckenham, UK

#107 Jun 10, 2014
McQuan wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree.... But this goes both way for Vietnam and Philippines also. Right now I just see US, Philippines and Japan instigating others to gang up against China. World no.1 and 3 against no.2, call that bully if you like. I don't expect China to take punches forever, so how do you expect peace in Asia?
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vn can be friends with every countries on this planet,,but never,, ever be friends,,and trust them chinese,,.they are a squalors,,only vietnam can give china some trouble..

VN PHILIPPINE,JAPAN,forming together to rounding up them squalors,, this time,,china won't find a way out,,
McQuan

UK

#108 Jun 10, 2014
wukan club wrote:
<quoted text>.
vn can be friends with every countries on this planet,,but never,, ever be friends,,and trust them chinese,,.they are a squalors,,only vietnam can give china some trouble..
VN PHILIPPINE,JAPAN,forming together to rounding up them squalors,, this time,,china won't find a way out,,
That is the very problem of Vietnam, not China.

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