EXODUS of Chinese and Foreigners from China

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CHINA HUMILIATED

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Mar 31, 2013
 
From NetEase & iFeng:

American Media: Foreigners Gradually Leaving China Due to Social Changes

United States’ New York Times Chinese Online Edition article, original title: Why do they want to leave China?

Not long ago, an Englishman who has lived in China for a long time, married a Chinese wife, and has had a very successful business in China named Mark Kitto published on English-language media an article titled “You’ll never be Chinese — Why I’m leaving the country I loved“. He says in his text that after having studied, worked, and lived nearly over 10 years, China’s changes have made him ultimately decide to leave China taking his entire family. There is more than just one Westerner like him who loves China yet wants to leave.

Not only “forever unable to become Chinese” laowai have begun to consider leaving China, even Chinese people themselves are one after another beginning to emigrate overseas. According to Hurun‘s 2011 survey of the multimillionaires in 18 Chinese cities, 14% of the rich have already emigrated or are currently in the process, while 46% of the rich are currently considering emigrating abroad. Although it is unknown whether or not this data is accurate, at least it reveals a trend, a phenomenon that cannot be ignored.

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30 years of economic reforms have benefited many people, with overall national living standards being much higher than 30 years ago. At the same time, the original model and system of putting the country’s modernization and development first is increasingly facing questions and challenges from various levels [or demographics of society] and interest groups. Every level has its own dissatisfaction, all believing the government does not take care of them enough, their discontents increasing. This isn’t just the grassroots [lower class] or the urban middle class, even vested interest groups and the rich are losing confidence in the current social contract. For the former, the injustice and unfairness in front of their eyes is the biggest dissatisfaction, while their method of expressing their discontent is to individually or cooperatively petition and protest. For the latter, their biggest concern is by and large the unpredictability and uncertainty of the future, while one of their ways of expressing their lack of confidence is to vote with their feet —“running away [emigrating abroad]“.

This uncertainty lies in the prevalence of unwritten rules in Chinese society, while the former rules are often twisted. The arbitrary administration of government departments is also very prevalent. With 30 years of reforms have also seen many rounds of government administrative reforms, but the people still do not have confidence or trust in the government. Mark Kitto lives in seclusion in Moganshan, engaged in the business of cafes and hostels as well as managing a top-selling magazine at the same time. He says every 3 years when he needs to renew his business permits/leases, he has to worry, not knowing when the local government will refuse to renew his licenses. For a businessman, this kind of money-wasting, time-wasting, energy-wasting, even unstable business operating and investment environment is what gives him a headache [troubles him].

What makes people unhappy and even “leave” also includes the rapidly economically developing social environment. Over 30 years of development, Chinese people’s material standard of living has greatly risen. But simultaneously one of the consequences it has brought is a money-centric “materialism”. This is a pervasively materialistic society. This high-speed development has environmental destruction and substandard quality as its costs. Materially-rich, spiritually-poor, lacking in ethics and values.

An Export of Students: Where are China's ultra-rich sending their children?
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When researching why Chinese people want to emigrate overseas, one thing that is often brought up is education for their children. This is very much related to China’s education system. In China, educational opportunities remain less than abundance and even lacking, and many children owing to economic and institutional reasons are unable to get an education. The quality and educational methods of schools also cause many parents concerned with their children’s educational prospects. Kitto criticized China’s primary and middle school education as not learning knowledge but rather learning how to take tests. Although this is a little exaggerated, there’s also a lot of truth in it. Although higher education has gone through over a decade of expansion,[high school graduating] exam takers still have to exhaust themselves preparing for the gaokao college entrance examinations in order to get into college. The quality of university education too has not risen along with the growth in the number of college students. This too is why many people would rather spend large sums of money to send their children abroad for their children’s education.

Moreover, environmental pollution, food safety and quality, traffic, and other things that impact quality of life also cause many Chinese people and foreigners living in China to want to leave.
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Mar 31, 2013
 
Most of the expats I know in China are making plans to leave if they haven't already done so.

Most of the Chinese I know there would like to leave too.
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Apr 2, 2013
 
"...even Chinese people themselves are one after another beginning to emigrate overseas. According to Hurun‘s 2011 survey of the multimillionaires in 18 Chinese cities, 14% of the rich have already emigrated or are currently in the process, while 46% of the rich are currently considering emigrating abroad."

So 60% have already left or are planning to.
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Apr 2, 2013
 
Mirolyuba wrote:
"...even Chinese people themselves are one after another beginning to emigrate overseas. According to Hurun‘s 2011 survey of the multimillionaires in 18 Chinese cities, 14% of the rich have already emigrated or are currently in the process, while 46% of the rich are currently considering emigrating abroad."
So 60% have already left or are planning to.
It is well establish that people with MONEY can migrate to anywhere they like.

Whoever they are, Chinese, British, American, Malaysian, etc.
The 1% of every nations is always member of the elite club of the world by membership.

So does this form NEGATIVE input from you contributed to your well being!

Amazing, isn't it?
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Apr 2, 2013
 
What are you saying, CCP dummy?

So 1% is normal?

Then 60% is an aberration so large it is in fact an EXODUS?
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Apr 2, 2013
 
CCP really SUCKS wrote:
What are you saying, CCP dummy?
So 1% is normal?
Then 60% is an aberration so large it is in fact an EXODUS?
Nothing we can do about it.

Whether it is in the USA or China!

NO matter where you go, WEALTH will just aligned itself to these 1~10% population.

You are EXCLUDED off course.
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It is Amazing wrote:
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Nothing we can do about it.
Whether it is in the USA or China!
NO matter where you go, WEALTH will just aligned itself to these 1~10% population.
You are EXCLUDED off course.
Yes, you ARE desperate to hide or downplay the fact that there is a FLOOD of money and talent (as well as a flood of useless, thieving CCP, of course) LEAVING CHINA NOW!

There is nothing you can do about it.
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CCP really SUCKS wrote:
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Yes, you ARE desperate to hide or downplay the fact that there is a FLOOD of money and talent (as well as a flood of useless, thieving CCP, of course) LEAVING CHINA NOW!
There is nothing you can do about it.
I don't need to know all this as it does not affect me one bit.

MONEY will flow to the nation that brings its investors security and the best return. Politics are only mean for adult with kiddy reasoning.

As I says...

You need to see a headshrinker and urgently!

While you are there,check with the oncologist as well.

Otherwise it will spread to the rest of your body soon.
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Yes, you ARE desperate to hide or downplay the fact that there is a FLOOD of money and talent (as well as a flood of useless, thieving CCP, of course) LEAVING CHINA NOW! China's UNSTABLE DICTATORSHIP is divided in factional chaos making security doubtful! Isolationist and idioyic policies meant to preserve the CCP regime are making returns fall sharply!

There is nothing you can do about it.
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Apr 2, 2013
 
someone is panic.
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Apr 2, 2013
 
CCP really SUCKS wrote:
Yes, you ARE desperate to hide or downplay the fact that there is a FLOOD of money and talent (as well as a flood of useless, thieving CCP, of course) LEAVING CHINA NOW! China's UNSTABLE DICTATORSHIP is divided in factional chaos making security doubtful! Isolationist and idioyic policies meant to preserve the CCP regime are making returns fall sharply!
There is nothing you can do about it.
What do I get from hiding facts?

The truth is more than 60% of the overseas graduates that left China returned home and increasingly because of better opportunity and better funded research nowadays in China. That is also why China is getting successful.
Your Mao TzeDong era is past and RED GUARDS exists only in your guilty and sick mindset. Chinese themselves are criticizing these events constructively as many of the leaders were in fact VICTIMS of these policy including their paramount leader the late Deng Xiaopeng.

Your NEGATIVENESS makes you invent stories and fabricate LIES! But do I need to rebuke them as they are all over the business news.

Like I says...

You need to see a headshrinker and urgently!

While you are there,check with the oncologist as well.

Otherwise it will spread to the rest of your body soon.
It is Amazing

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Apr 2, 2013
 
lct wrote:
someone is panic.
No he is just sick and needed Medical Attention!
CCP are LOSERS

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Apr 2, 2013
 
Yes, the Chinese Communist Party is so WEAK and ILLEGITIMATE, it cannot stand the slightest criticism!

Good luck with that total dependence on Red Guard hate tactics and lies!

HA HA HA HA HA HA!
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Apr 2, 2013
 
You cannot be treated posting those NEGATIVE things in here.

Like I says...

You need to see a headshrinker and urgently!

While you are there,check with the oncologist as well.

Otherwise it will spread to the rest of your body soon.
CHINA HUMILIATED by CCP

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Apr 2, 2013
 
Yes, you ARE desperate to hide or downplay the fact that there is a FLOOD of money and talent (as well as a flood of useless, thieving CCP, of course) LEAVING CHINA NOW! China's UNSTABLE DICTATORSHIP is divided in factional chaos making security doubtful! Isolationist and idioic policies meant to preserve the CCP regime are making returns fall sharply!

There is nothing you can do about it.
It is Amazing

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CHINA HUMILIATED by CCP wrote:
Yes, you ARE desperate to hide or downplay the fact that there is a FLOOD of money and talent (as well as a flood of useless, thieving CCP, of course) LEAVING CHINA NOW! China's UNSTABLE DICTATORSHIP is divided in factional chaos making security doubtful! Isolationist and idioic policies meant to preserve the CCP regime are making returns fall sharply!
There is nothing you can do about it.
What do I get from hiding facts?

The truth is more than 60% of the overseas graduates that left China returned home and increasingly because of better opportunity and better funded research nowadays in China. That is also why China is getting successful.
Your Mao TzeDong era is past and RED GUARDS exists only in your guilty and sick mindset. Chinese themselves are criticizing these events constructively as many of the leaders were in fact VICTIMS of these policy including their paramount leader the late Deng Xiaopeng.

Your NEGATIVENESS makes you invent stories and fabricate LIES! But do I need to rebuke them as they are all over the business news.

Like I says...

You need to see a headshrinker and urgently!

While you are there,check with the oncologist as well.

Otherwise it will spread to the rest of your body soon.
CCP are MASS-MURDERERS

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Apr 2, 2013
 
Yes, you ARE desperate to hide or downplay the fact that there is a FLOOD of money and talent (as well as a flood of useless, thieving CCP, of course) LEAVING CHINA NOW! China's UNSTABLE DICTATORSHIP is divided in factional chaos making security doubtful! Isolationist and idioic policies meant to preserve the CCP regime are making returns fall sharply!

There is nothing you can do about it.
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Apr 2, 2013
 
CCP are MASS-MURDERERS wrote:
Yes, you ARE desperate to hide or downplay the fact that there is a FLOOD of money and talent (as well as a flood of useless, thieving CCP, of course) LEAVING CHINA NOW! China's UNSTABLE DICTATORSHIP is divided in factional chaos making security doubtful! Isolationist and idioic policies meant to preserve the CCP regime are making returns fall sharply!
There is nothing you can do about it.
Is there and how does it concern you or anyone of us?

You cannot be treated posting those NEGATIVE things in here.

Like I says...

You need to see a headshrinker and urgently!

While you are there,check with the oncologist as well.

Otherwise it will spread to the rest of your body soon.
CCP are SCUM

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Apr 2, 2013
 
It is Amazing wrote:
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Is there and how does it concern you or anyone of us?
You cannot be treated posting those NEGATIVE things in here.
Like I says...
You need to see a headshrinker and urgently!
While you are there,check with the oncologist as well.
Otherwise it will spread to the rest of your body soon.
Yes, you ARE desperate to hide or downplay the fact that there is a FLOOD of money and talent (as well as a flood of useless, thieving CCP, of course) LEAVING CHINA NOW! China's UNSTABLE DICTATORSHIP is divided in factional chaos making security doubtful! Isolationist and idioic policies meant to preserve the CCP regime are making returns fall sharply!

There is nothing you can do about it.

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