MANILA: China to Philippines: Quit Scarborough Shoal

Apr 18, 2012 Full story: Asia News Network 15,220

China has asked all Philippine vessels to leave immediately Scarborough Shoal and sent a second aircraft buzzing over the area to scare away Filipino fishermen, officials said yesterday.

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It is Amazing

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#15454 Apr 12, 2013
Concerned_ wrote:
Victor Archer II & Rigoberto Tiglao are fakes. These two changed their names to a Filipino sounding name to assimilate with the locals just like Mr Robredo who died in a plane crash last year.
They are?

But their names, profiles and addresses were posted in MANILA TIMES!

SO who are you trying to FOOL?

Why NOT just give us your learned comments on w=how they are WRONG?

Proponents of AQUINOMICS claims successes but INDEXES from international agencies are indicating the opposite. It looks good because Manila has stop importing to make their balance sheet looks good initially but in the long run there are NO IMPROVEMENT as NO MONEY is spend on additional infrastructures for the future. That is how Philippines cooked up its book but overall she remains the weakest of the major economies in ASEAN.
Cev

San Juan, Philippines

#15455 Apr 13, 2013
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE wrote:
<quoted text>
lol nice take on the issue... ape wannabee chinese...
thats why they are sailing their ships in your so called waters
Exactly my point dumbass Chink.

That's why bilateral talks won't work.

The International Court is the only way to solve this issue!

So thanks for proving my point dumbass Chink.
Cev

San Juan, Philippines

#15456 Apr 13, 2013
It is Amazing wrote:
<quoted text>
They are?
But their names, profiles and addresses were posted in MANILA TIMES!
SO who are you trying to FOOL?
Why NOT just give us your learned comments on w=how they are WRONG?
Proponents of AQUINOMICS claims successes but INDEXES from international agencies are indicating the opposite. It looks good because Manila has stop importing to make their balance sheet looks good initially but in the long run there are NO IMPROVEMENT as NO MONEY is spend on additional infrastructures for the future. That is how Philippines cooked up its book but overall she remains the weakest of the major economies in ASEAN.
I'll post your name address and profiles in Manila Times.

Does that make you real?

Nope. You'll still be the FAKER CHINAMAN PRETENDING TO BE MALAYSIAN.

Common sense moron Chink.
XYZ open Seasame

United States

#15457 Apr 13, 2013
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE wrote:
<quoted text>
lol nice take on the issue... ape wannabee chinese...
thats why they are sailing their ships in your so called waters
I would say Cev is another American War-for-profiteers who trying to incite nations to war(s). World should wake up!
Cev

San Juan, Philippines

#15458 Apr 13, 2013
It is Amazing wrote:
<quoted text>
Proponents of AQUINOMICS claims successes but INDEXES from international agencies are indicating the opposite. It looks good because Manila has stop importing to make their balance sheet looks good initially but in the long run there are NO IMPROVEMENT as NO MONEY is spend on additional infrastructures for the future. That is how Philippines cooked up its book but overall she remains the weakest of the major economies in ASEAN.
You should go out more often and take a look at the infrastructure developments in the Philippines before you post another fabricated story, Chinaman.

Anyone who comes here will be able to see the sudden surge in constructions works both by the government and by private individuals and corporations.

And I'm not referring to the capital alone. You see this all throughout the Philippines.

Sad why you can't accept the blatant truth about the Philippines:

The credit rating agencies says UP
The stock market indexes says UP
Government reports says UP
Locals say UP
and even foreign visitors who come here says UP.

Chinamen are the only dumb people who says DOWN because they're desperate to keep their growth UP, when China is clearly going DOWN, DOWN, DOWN.

:D Sucks to be you.
Cev

San Juan, Philippines

#15459 Apr 13, 2013
XYZ open Seasame wrote:
<quoted text>
I would say Cev is another American War-for-profiteers who trying to incite nations to war(s). World should wake up!
And I would say that you are an idiot who probably blames everything on America, when it's probably you're own fault.

On a side note, China was the one calling for war. It's in the news.
XYZ

United States

#15460 Apr 13, 2013
Cev wrote:
<quoted text>
And I would say that you are an idiot who probably blames everything on America, when it's probably you're own fault.
On a side note, China was the one calling for war. It's in the news.
You infinitely Biggest pinhead!
How many Filipino were mass murdered by Us military during w 19th century?

History shows!

Readup this below is just tip of Iceberg, not listed are evil US war since birth of Us militaristic Imperialist Empire>

Why US irked so many and Why 179 nations given obnoxious US bully the Big Middle Fingers?

history shows and recorded for eternity, u evil American War mongers can not run away no more, no more! The World is AwaKE you Grunts /Crackas!` BWHAHAHAHAA

UNITED STATES INTERVENTIONS SINCE 1945:
MILITARY INTERVENTIONS, COVERT OPERATIONS, COUPS AND ATTEMPTED COUPS, ELECTION INTERFERENCE, REGIME CHANGE, COLOR REVOLUTIONS
Hiroshima and Nagasaki (Japan), Philippines, South Korea, Lebanon, Iran, Guatemala, Cuba, Congo/Zaire, Brazil,
Greece, Poland, Turkey, Dominican Republic, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Indonesia, Chile, Angola, East TImor, Nicaragua,
Grenada, Panama, Kyrgyzstan, Haiti, Yugoslavia, Georgia, Ukraine, Argentina, Ghana, Venezuela, Bolivia, Hondoras,
Paraguay, Mexico, El Salvador, Iraq, Afghanistan, Sudan, Somalia, Pakistan, Yemen, Tunesia, Egypt, Libya, Syria,...

"If Nuremberg were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged."
Noam Chomsky

So imbecile Americans War monger
It is Amazing

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#15461 Apr 13, 2013
ECONOMY ignoramus chinaman CEV did not know AQUINO cook up the book.

When Philippines ANNUAL GDP is equal only to China's Military Budget and 1/5 that of Indonesia.

What Ricardo Saludo has to says...

Government UNDERSPENDING held back the ECONOMY that year. President Aquino argued then that public works contracts had to be reviewed for corruption, delaying implementation. Even urgent flood-control projects needed before the mid-2011 rains were delayed as late as September 2012. Yet there was no rash of anti-graft cases or dismissals after the purported infrastructure reviews.

In fact, the underspending fulfills Aquino’s wish to slash the budget shortfall and WIN credit rating upgrades. His predecessor had trimmed the gap to 0.1 percent of GDP in 2008, but had to expand deficit spending to 3.7 percent in 2010 in sustaining domestic growth during the global recession, as the World Bank and other development agencies had urged.

Aquino’s push to cut the deficit impressed credit agencies already pleased with fiscal reforms since 2005. Standard & Poor’s, Moody’s, and Fitch lifted the Philippines’ sovereign rating to just a notch below investment grade today. But underspending held back economic growth and infrastructure—the perennial top concerns of investors.

Consequently, the country’s competitiveness ratings have been mixed. It jumped ten places to 75th in the WEF’s Global Competitiveness Report last year, compiled with local help from the Makati Business Club. But the ACTUAL grade BARELY budged from past years, rising to 4.1 in 2012 from 3.9 in 2010 and 4.0 in 2011. And in other world ratings, the Philippines was even less impressive.

The country was DOWN two places in the 2012 World Competitiveness Rankings by leading European business school IMD of Switzerland, assisted by the Asian Institute of Management. And in its World Investment Report 2012 covering foreign direct investments worldwide, the UN Conference on Trade and Development found the country “below expectations” in FDI, landing in the bottom quartile in investment attractiveness, despite being in the top half in investment potential.

Most disturbing are the FALLING GRADES in the World Bank and International Finance Corporation’s annual Ease of Doing Business report, down two years in a row: from 134th in the 2011 ranking, to 136th in 2012 and 138th in 2013. The survey assesses red tape, graft and other regulatory problems in setting up and operating enterprises—the VERY bureaucratic bane that Aquino’s Tuwid na Daan campaign is supposed to address.

The Palace was quick to BLAME local governments for cumbersome, corruption-plagued procedures hurting the Philippines’ ranking. National Competitiveness Council private-sector co-chairman Guillermo Luz offered a more helpful response. He said NCC would work on raising the Doing Business rank to No. 109 in the 2014 survey out this year. The public-private body created in 2007, aims to lift the country to the top 70 by 2016.

Capital flows appear to affirm the MEDIOCRE competitiveness ratings. In the last decade, net foreign direct investment peaked at almost $3 billion a year in 2006 and 2007, despite the political crisis over the 2004 presidential elections. The West’s financial crisis predictably trimmed annual FDI below $2 billion in 2008 and 2009.

But when global recovery boosted foreign investment in Asean in 2010- to 2011, it continued DROPPING in the Philippines, under $1.3 billion a year, despite post-election euphoria. Net FDI for last year is likely to be much the same, with the January-September figure at less than $1.1 billion.

By comparison, Indonesia, also trumpeting anti-corruption policies under President Yudhoyono, quadrupled its haul from $2.62 billion in recession-hit 2009 to $11.1 billion in 2010 and $11.5 billion in 2011, with $9 billion in for the first three quarters of last year.

The Philippines’ domestic investment picture isn’t much better and could GET WORSE, harming GROWTH and JOBS.
UidiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#15462 Apr 13, 2013
It is Amazing wrote:
ECONOMY ignoramus chinaman CEV did not know AQUINO cook up the book.
When Philippines ANNUAL GDP is equal only to China's Military Budget and 1/5 that of Indonesia.
What Ricardo Saludo has to says...
Government UNDERSPENDING held back the ECONOMY that year. President Aquino argued then that public works contracts had to be reviewed for corruption, delaying implementation. Even urgent flood-control projects needed before the mid-2011 rains were delayed as late as September 2012. Yet there was no rash of anti-graft cases or dismissals after the purported infrastructure reviews.
In fact, the underspending fulfills Aquino’s wish to slash the budget shortfall and WIN credit rating upgrades. His predecessor had trimmed the gap to 0.1 percent of GDP in 2008, but had to expand deficit spending to 3.7 percent in 2010 in sustaining domestic growth during the global recession, as the World Bank and other development agencies had urged.
Aquino’s push to cut the deficit impressed credit agencies already pleased with fiscal reforms since 2005. Standard & Poor’s, Moody’s, and Fitch lifted the Philippines’ sovereign rating to just a notch below investment grade today. But underspending held back economic growth and infrastructure—the perennial top concerns of investors.
Consequently, the country’s competitiveness ratings have been mixed. It jumped ten places to 75th in the WEF’s Global Competitiveness Report last year, compiled with local help from the Makati Business Club. But the ACTUAL grade BARELY budged from past years, rising to 4.1 in 2012 from 3.9 in 2010 and 4.0 in 2011. And in other world ratings, the Philippines was even less impressive.
The country was DOWN two places in the 2012 World Competitiveness Rankings by leading European business school IMD of Switzerland, assisted by the Asian Institute of Management. And in its World Investment Report 2012 covering foreign direct investments worldwide, the UN Conference on Trade and Development found the country “below expectations” in FDI, landing in the bottom quartile in investment attractiveness, despite being in the top half in investment potential.
Most disturbing are the FALLING GRADES in the World Bank and International Finance Corporation’s annual Ease of Doing Business report, down two years in a row: from 134th in the 2011 ranking, to 136th in 2012 and 138th in 2013. The survey assesses red tape, graft and other regulatory problems in setting up and operating enterprises—the VERY bureaucratic bane that Aquino’s Tuwid na Daan campaign is supposed to address.
The Palace was quick to BLAME local governments for cumbersome, corruption-plagued procedures hurting the Philippines’ ranking. National Competitiveness Council private-sector co-chairman Guillermo Luz offered a more helpful response. He said NCC would work on raising the Doing Business rank to No. 109 in the 2014 survey out this year. The public-private body created in 2007, aims to lift the country to the top 70 by 2016.
Capital flows appear to affirm the MEDIOCRE competitiveness ratings. In the last decade, net foreign direct investment peaked at almost $3 billion a year in 2006 and 2007, despite the political crisis over the 2004 presidential elections. The West’s financial crisis predictably trimmed annual FDI below $2 billion in 2008 and 2009.
But when global recovery boosted foreign investment in Asean in 2010- to 2 ....isn’t much better and could GET WORSE, harming GROWTH and JOBS.
Cut to fit CEV is a American War monger!
Cev

Quezon City, Philippines

#15464 Apr 13, 2013
It is Amazing wrote:
ECONOMY ignoramus chinaman CEV did not know AQUINO cook up the book.
When Philippines ANNUAL GDP is equal only to China's Military Budget and 1/5 that of Indonesia.
What Ricardo Saludo has to says...
Government UNDERSPENDING held back the ECONOMY that year. President Aquino argued then that public works contracts had to be reviewed for corruption, delaying implementation. Even urgent flood-control projects needed before the mid-2011 rains were delayed as late as September 2012. Yet there was no rash of anti-graft cases or dismissals after the purported infrastructure reviews.
In fact, the underspending fulfills Aquino’s wish to slash the budget ... BLAH BLAH BLAH
This article, an OPINION by Ricardo Saludo dated JANUARY 12, 2013, is already OBSOLETE.

Ricardo Saludo is EATING HIS VERY OWN WORDS RIGHT NOW, because..

TWO MONTHS AFTER he wrote the article,

THE PHILIPPINES BECAME INVESTMENT GRADE.

:D (use your brains chinaman. you're so dumb)
Cev

Quezon City, Philippines

#15465 Apr 13, 2013
UidiotRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>
Cut to fit CEV is a American War monger!
Not really. I support a legal and orderly approach with dealing with China.

Yey for the International Court of Justice!

I'm really happy the case against China has been filed..

Even happier to hear that China COWERED IN FEAR when invited to court..

Ecstatic that the world finally knows the truth that China is a CRIMINAL WHO IS AFRAID OF THE LAW!:D

Warmonger? NAAAAhhh.. I love peace and the international court.

BEND OVER CHINAMEN. BEND OVER.
It is Amazing

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#15466 Apr 13, 2013
Cev wrote:
<quoted text>
This article, an OPINION by Ricardo Saludo dated JANUARY 12, 2013, is already OBSOLETE.
Ricardo Saludo is EATING HIS VERY OWN WORDS RIGHT NOW, because..
TWO MONTHS AFTER he wrote the article,
THE PHILIPPINES BECAME INVESTMENT GRADE.
:D (use your brains chinaman. you're so dumb)
That OPINION has become obsolete or it is happening exactly like he predicted!

A COOKED UP ECONOMY! Hahahahaha

NO wonder Pinoy like to IMAGINE they are the STRONGEST ECONOMY in ASIA although China has added another GDP 5X the size of Philippines into her economy last year alone.

These Pinoys have NO SHAME! Hahahahaha
An OFW

Canada

#15467 Apr 13, 2013
Concerned_ wrote:
Victor Archer II & Rigoberto Tiglao are fakes. These two changed their names to a Filipino sounding name to assimilate with the locals just like Mr Robredo who died in a plane crash last year.
Journalists can publish their pro-China papers under fake names.

We never heard of these 2 guys.
An OFW

Canada

#15468 Apr 13, 2013
Cev wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly my point dumbass Chink.
That's why bilateral talks won't work.
The International Court is the only way to solve this issue!
So thanks for proving my point dumbass Chink.
But "Rigoberto Tiglao" said UNCLOS is no longer valid for resolving sovereignty conflicts because Manila has added a declaration to UNCLOS when Manila endorsed it. Such declaration invalidated UNCLOS for sovereignty issues.

He said China did the same.

He also said that President Acquino has made a huge mistake to send warships to capture Chinese fishermen.

It has created an opportunity for the Chinese to blast Manila as a belligerent country. China was smarter because they only used unarmed oceanic and fishery patrol ships to protect Chinese fishermen.
An OFW

Canada

#15469 Apr 13, 2013
I think it is ridiculous.

President Acquino must find out who these 2 guys are, arrest them, and send them back to China.

We don't want spies living among us.
Filmalay

Anonymous Proxy

#15471 Apr 15, 2013
An OFW wrote:
I think it is ridiculous.
President Acquino must find out who these 2 guys are, arrest them, and send them back to China.
We don't want spies living among us.
Rigoberto Tiglao must have been a Chinese who changed his name to a Filipino sounding name. He was appointed as ambassador to Greece during the times of Gloria. Gloria as we all know sold the Philiipine Spratly Archieplago to the Chinese by way of giving them rights to explore the area within 200 mile GPH EEZ.

Mr. Tiglao must have been paid by a Chinese operative to go against the Philippine government just like Jose de Venecia. There were lots of Filipinos that were bribed by Chinese operatives especially during the crafting of the Philippine Baselines Law.
It is Amazing

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#15473 Apr 15, 2013
Filmalay wrote:
<quoted text>
Rigoberto Tiglao must have been a Chinese who changed his name to a Filipino sounding name. He was appointed as ambassador to Greece during the times of Gloria. Gloria as we all know sold the Philiipine Spratly Archieplago to the Chinese by way of giving them rights to explore the area within 200 mile GPH EEZ.
Mr. Tiglao must have been paid by a Chinese operative to go against the Philippine government just like Jose de Venecia. There were lots of Filipinos that were bribed by Chinese operatives especially during the crafting of the Philippine Baselines Law.
First he is a FAKE then now he is a CHINESE working against PHILIPPINES.

And did somebody says PHILIPPINES is DEMOCRATIC and have FREEDOM of EXPRESSION. That is all FAKE I believe. Hahahahaha

There is another angle to your so-called Philippines Baseline Law, Pinoy are generally UNEDUCATED and so the capitalists (Chinese, American, Japanese, Pinoy themselves) can take them all for a RIDE.

If such are your thoughts then YOU should TURN COMMUNIST No. 1! Hahahahaha
It is Amazing

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#15474 Apr 15, 2013
An OFW wrote:
<quoted text>But "Rigoberto Tiglao" said UNCLOS is no longer valid for resolving sovereignty conflicts because Manila has added a declaration to UNCLOS when Manila endorsed it. Such declaration invalidated UNCLOS for sovereignty issues.
He said China did the same.
He also said that President Acquino has made a huge mistake to send warships to capture Chinese fishermen.
It has created an opportunity for the Chinese to blast Manila as a belligerent country. China was smarter because they only used unarmed oceanic and fishery patrol ships to protect Chinese fishermen.
Well, many things he wrote makes sense.

If Aquino did not acted aggressively by arresting Chinese Fishermen in their traditional Fishing Shelters then Philippines is SPARE the AGONY and WOE they are FACING TODAY.
And China would not have the excuse of building yet another Fortress there.

The very expensive BOT metropolitan RAILWAY to be financed and build by China would have already been implemented in Manila and NOT CANCELLED among many other people projects. Aquino would have got himself the CREDIT. Oh shit! What have devil woman Hilliary Clintons did, and why did I have to listen to us? Aquino must be saying and kicking himself in front of the mirror.

He is right as legally since Philippines did not ratified a FULL TREATY (as explained by the former Ambassador to Germany), UNCLOS has in fact NO JURISDICTION and is the wrong body on dispute on historical ownership.
An OFW

Canada

#15475 Apr 16, 2013
So Rigoberto Tiglao is a real person and a former ambassador.

President Acquino's team must find out if Mr. Tiglao is right or not and rebuke him with evidence.

If we ratified UNCLOS only with modifications to limit UNCLOS' jurisdiction over sovereignty disputes concerning the Philippines, we may be wrong in our legal actions against China.

We need to protect ourselves from further damage.

No wonder China is so calm and rejects the legal challenges upfront.
Cev

Quezon City, Philippines

#15476 Apr 17, 2013
An OFW wrote:
So Rigoberto Tiglao is a real person and a former ambassador.
President Acquino's team must find out if Mr. Tiglao is right or not and rebuke him with evidence.
If we ratified UNCLOS only with modifications to limit UNCLOS' jurisdiction over sovereignty disputes concerning the Philippines, we may be wrong in our legal actions against China.
We need to protect ourselves from further damage.
No wonder China is so calm and rejects the legal challenges upfront.
LOOOOL!

Chinaman's pretending to be a Filipino now. HAHAHAHAHAHA

God you guys are so DESPERATE.

China's not calm, she's panicking and pissing in her panties.

Why?

On one end, China is using UNCLOS against Japanese territorial disputes.

China also acquired a lot of maritime territories because of UNCLOS.

But China just can't stand the fact that she is WRONG in claiming the entire West Philippine Sea, so in this 'special' case... UNCLOS does not apply.

So stop whining and pretending to be someone else, Chinaman, and face the music. We'll see you in court whether or not you have the balls to go there. We'll force you to answer to your CRIMES.

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