China second only to US in scientific research

[Polaris]

China second only to US in scientific research

Chinese researchers have more than doubled their output of scientific papers and now are second only to the United States in terms of volume, according to a report from Thomson Reuters released on Monday.

The research is heavily focused on materials and technology and shows China is poised to dominate several areas of industry, the report finds.

"China's comparative growth is striking, far outstripping that of the rest of the world," reads the report, available here

"And the curve seems to be showing only marginal signs of slowing, still heading to overtake the USA itself within the next decade."

more at:
http://ceconomy.blogspot.com/

[Ling]

Interesting but I am not surprised!

[attila the Han]

Polaris wrote:

China second only to US in scientific research
Chinese researchers have more than doubled their output of scientific papers and now are second only to the United States in terms of volume, according to a report from Thomson Reuters released on Monday.
The research is heavily focused on materials and technology and shows China is poised to dominate several areas of industry, the report finds.
"China's comparative growth is striking, far outstripping that of the rest of the world," reads the report, available here
"And the curve seems to be showing only marginal signs of slowing, still heading to overtake the USA itself within the next decade."
more at:
http://ceconomy.blogspot.com/

china has a long tradition of invention and innovation. once again, china will restore its former glory to become a powerhouse in science and technology.

once upon a time - compass, gunpowder,mechanics, hydraulics,music theory, paper money, astronomy..........

from now to the next millenium - beyond imagination.

china for better or worst will lead humanities into chaos or prosperity.

[unsignificant]

attila the Han wrote:

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china has a long tradition of invention and innovation. once again, china will restore its former glory to become a powerhouse in science and technology.
once upon a time - compass, gunpowder,mechanics, hydraulics,music theory, paper money, astronomy..........
from now to the next millenium - beyond imagination.
china for better or worst will lead humanities into chaos or prosperity.

Chinese colleage education sucks,
I dont believe that Chinese Science research has become world No.2

[GlobeSon]

unsignificant wrote:

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Chinese colleage education sucks,
I dont believe that Chinese Science research has become world No.2

why do you say that?

[unsignificant]

GlobeSon wrote:

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why do you say that?

cause chinese education system has its crisis.

There are a lot of corruption in Education System.

[unsignificant]

GlobeSon wrote:

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why do you say that?

There are a lot of Indian students come to China to learn Medicine,
however Chinese Medicine might not the most advanced around the world, but the doctors always have very rich experience.

[GlobeSon]

unsignificant wrote:

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cause chinese education system has its crisis.
There are a lot of corruption in Education System.

I am aware that a lot of chinese students opt for studying overseas. I think the figure at the moment is 4,50,000 this year.
My question is ...is it because of the quality of education in china, or is it because of the global job opportunities overseas and the desire to immigrate that chinese student opt for overseas universities?

[GlobeSon]

unsignificant wrote:

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There are a lot of Indian students come to China to learn Medicine,
however Chinese Medicine might not the most advanced around the world, but the doctors always have very rich experience.

Yes. Admission to Govt Medical Colleges in India is a tough thing, and few bright guys qualify for it. Thats mainly cuz the number of seats is very less.
The next category is Private run medical colleges, which are equally good but very expensive...and not affordable to most students. These are the students who are looking at chinese medical universities.
I have heard about some issues with chinese medical education, and Medical Council of India has debarred students from these universities from practising in India. I do not know the specifics though.

[unsignificant]

GlobeSon wrote:

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I am aware that a lot of chinese students opt for studying overseas. I think the figure at the moment is 4,50,000 this year.
My question is ...is it because of the quality of education in china, or is it because of the global job opportunities overseas and the desire to immigrate that chinese student opt for overseas universities?

Yes, the quality of Education in China is very bad, most of guraduates havent corresponding capability for their jobs.
and the firms have to spend months to train them before put them to work.
Compared to India, an IT engineer might just need 12 months special training, but in China, the firms might need to hire a computer bachelor.

Because of the badly quality, plenty of rich students go abroad to take their colleage education.

the reason why Chinese colleage education go downhill is Education Industrilization.

[unsignificant]

GlobeSon wrote:

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Yes. Admission to Govt Medical Colleges in India is a tough thing, and few bright guys qualify for it. Thats mainly cuz the number of seats is very less.
The next category is Private run medical colleges, which are equally good but very expensive...and not affordable to most students. These are the students who are looking at chinese medical universities.
I have heard about some issues with chinese medical education, and Medical Council of India has debarred students from these universities from practising in India. I do not know the specifics though.

Yes, Chinese medicine education is very strict.
Chinese medicine students have a lot of chances to practice, especially for nurse.
and the charge is cheaper than USA, so lots of indian students been here.

[GlobeSon]

unsignificant wrote:

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Yes, the quality of Education in China is very bad, most of guraduates havent corresponding capability for their jobs.
and the firms have to spend months to train them before put them to work.
Compared to India, an IT engineer might just need 12 months special training, but in China, the firms might need to hire a computer bachelor.
Because of the badly quality, plenty of rich students go abroad to take their colleage education.
the reason why Chinese colleage education go downhill is Education Industrilization.

Thanks for the insight. I wonder why china cannot invest in education like it did in other sectors and improve the quality of education? It's going to be a long process, unlike setting up a mass manufacturing plant - but it can be done.

[RayH]

unsignificant wrote:

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Yes, the quality of Education in China is very bad, most of guraduates havent corresponding capability for their jobs.
and the firms have to spend months to train them before put them to work.
Compared to India, an IT engineer might just need 12 months special training, but in China, the firms might need to hire a computer bachelor.
Because of the badly quality, plenty of rich students go abroad to take their colleage education.
the reason why Chinese colleage education go downhill is Education Industrilization.

You mean "Commercialization" of Education, as in "Making MONEY."

[attila the Han]

unsignificant wrote:

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Chinese colleage education sucks,
I dont believe that Chinese Science research has become world No.2

don't forget it only takes a handful of great talent to push forward technology innovation.
one out of a several millions, that's all is required. I believe you never see more than one bill gates in this planet. for the rest, get any degree, keep your day job.

[unsignificant]

GlobeSon wrote:

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Thanks for the insight. I wonder why china cannot invest in education like it did in other sectors and improve the quality of education? It's going to be a long process, unlike setting up a mass manufacturing plant - but it can be done.

Massive investment have been put into Education sector in the past 10 years, especially colleage education.
The reasons why China cannot improve the quality of education is rather complicated. Though the investment brought a lots of Research Funding, new equipments, improved the wage of teachers and scientist, most of colleages expanded its enrollment and build lots of new buildings.
But it is not helpful the improve the quality of educations, by contrary, lots of money been wasted because of bureaucracy and corruption.
It's still not the worst thing.
The China's education has been in a astray.
Bureaucracy and corruption of the colleage administer is the one of two major reasons.
Another is Education Commercialization.

[unsignificant]

GlobeSon wrote:

<quoted text>
Thanks for the insight. I wonder why china cannot invest in education like it did in other sectors and improve the quality of education? It's going to be a long process, unlike setting up a mass manufacturing plant - but it can be done.

GlobeSon wrote:

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Thanks for the insight. I wonder why china cannot invest in education like it did in other sectors and improve the quality of education? It's going to be a long process, unlike setting up a mass manufacturing plant - but it can be done.

Massive investment have been put into Education sector in the past 10 years, especially colleage education.
The reasons why China cannot improve the quality of education is rather complicated. Though the investment brought a lots of Research Funding, new equipments, improved the wage of teachers and scientist, most of colleages expanded its enrollment and build lots of new buildings.
But it is not helpful the improve the quality of educations, by contrary, lots of money been wasted because of bureaucracy and corruption.
It's still not the worst thing.
The China's education has been in a astray.
Bureaucracy and corruption of the education system is the one of two major reasons.
Another is Education Commercialization.

In a word, China's education should be better.

So what's about India?
Can all the children get deserved education?

[Snowflake]

China is number one in scientific research now, trust me with the wars in two different countries we have almost zero money for research. I am a scientist I know, grants are very hard to come by.

[RayH]

unsignificant wrote:

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Massive investment have been put into Education sector in the past 10 years, especially colleage education.
The reasons why China cannot improve the quality of education is rather complicated. Though the investment brought a lots of Research Funding, new equipments, improved the wage of teachers and scientist, most of colleages expanded its enrollment and build lots of new buildings.
But it is not helpful the improve the quality of educations, by contrary, lots of money been wasted because of bureaucracy and corruption.
It's still not the worst thing.
The China's education has been in a astray.
Bureaucracy and corruption of the colleage administer is the one of two major reasons.
Another is Education Commercialization.

15 years ago, many of the university campuses and dormitories in China look like a DUMP, due to lack of funding. Today, the "hardware" has improved, due to massive building construction. It's just a matter of fixing the "software" (quality of education) now, which will take much longer.

[RayH]

In China's cities, the elementary, middle, and high school education has always been the same or better than those in U.S. However, it's the university education that lags behind the U.S., which is tops in the world. This is why so many students from China (and around the world) go to university in the U.S.

[old china]

RayH wrote:

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15 years ago, many of the university campuses and dormitories in China look like a DUMP, due to lack of funding. Today, the "hardware" has improved, due to massive building construction. It's just a matter of fixing the "software" (quality of education) now, which will take much longer.

They're getting the education somewhere - I looked at the biology homework for a 14 year old Chinese friend the other day and not only was it at degree standard but it was in English.