Israel OKs construction in West Bank ...

Israel OKs construction in West Bank and E. Jerusalem, riling Palestinians

There are 134 comments on the United Jewish Federation of Tidewater story from Aug 11, 2013, titled Israel OKs construction in West Bank and E. Jerusalem, riling Palestinians. In it, United Jewish Federation of Tidewater reports that:

Israel gave the final approval to build 1,200 apartments in eastern Jerusalem and the West Bank - a move Palestinian peace negotiators said could destroy chances for peace.

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#105 Aug 23, 2013
I can read wrote:
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The mandate for palestine clearly says that Jerusalem will be a free city and not part of either palestine or israel.
The UN charter clearly states that taking territory by force is illegal.
You can pretend otherwise if you like.
When Jordan took most of Jerusalem in 1948 the world "conveniently" pretended to forget about the "free city" provision of the Mandate. If Jordan was still in Jerusalem, you wouldn't give a fetid dingo's kidney about the status of Jerusalem.


The Mandate became a moot point 10 seconds after Jordan ran over it with tanks and not a single UN resolution since 1948 resurrects the stupid idea of a "free city".
nutjobs here

Tel Aviv, Israel

#106 Aug 23, 2013
I can read wrote:
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The mandate for palestine clearly says that Jerusalem will be a free city and not part of either palestine or israel.
The UN charter clearly states that taking territory by force is illegal.
You can pretend otherwise if you like.
You obviously don't know what the mandate for Palestine is.
It was written by the league of nations at the San Remo Conference 1920 and signed a few years later.
There is no mention of Jerusalem in the document.
There is no mention of creating a Palestinian state either nor of a Palestinian nation. Even resolution 242 has no mention of a Palestinian people or country.
80% was taken off to create what is today Jordan.

The UN Charter article 80 reaffirms the rights of a class A Mandate, the Mandate for Palestine is a class A Mandate.

There is nothing to pretend as there is no mention in the documents you speak of the Palestinian Arab nation as there wasn't one at the time.

You are speaking of resolution 181 which also speaks of a vote a decade later on Jerusalem. Since Jerusalem had a majority Jewish population around 70% it would have been a Jewish city anyway.

YOU ARE EITHER A LIAR, AN IDIOT, OR BLIND BY HATRED.

Try reading the documents you speak of as what you are saying is not true.
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#107 Aug 23, 2013
nutjobs here wrote:
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You obviously don't know what the mandate for Palestine is.
It was written by the league of nations at the San Remo Conference 1920 and signed a few years later.
There is no mention of Jerusalem in the document.
There is no mention of creating a Palestinian state either nor of a Palestinian nation. Even resolution 242 has no mention of a Palestinian people or country.
80% was taken off to create what is today Jordan.
The UN Charter article 80 reaffirms the rights of a class A Mandate, the Mandate for Palestine is a class A Mandate.
There is nothing to pretend as there is no mention in the documents you speak of the Palestinian Arab nation as there wasn't one at the time.
You are speaking of resolution 181 which also speaks of a vote a decade later on Jerusalem. Since Jerusalem had a majority Jewish population around 70% it would have been a Jewish city anyway.
YOU ARE EITHER A LIAR, AN IDIOT, OR BLIND BY HATRED.
Try reading the documents you speak of as what you are saying is not true.
Lets see shall we?
un charter article 80 wrote:
1. Except as may be agreed upon in individual trusteeship agreements, made under Articles 77, 79, and 81, placing each territory under the trusteeship system, and until such agreements have been concluded, nothing in this Chapter shall be construed in or of itself to alter in any manner the rights whatsoever of any states or any peoples or the terms of existing international instruments to which Members of the United Nations may respectively be parties.
Paragraph 1 of this Article shall not be interpreted as giving grounds for delay or postponement of the negotiation and conclusion of agreements for placing mandated and other territories under the trusteeship system as provided for in Article 77.
Looks like it doesn't even mention non UN mandates.

So why are you lying?
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#108 Aug 23, 2013
nutjobs here wrote:
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You obviously don't know what the mandate for Palestine is.
It was written by the league of nations at the San Remo Conference 1920 and signed a few years later.
There is no mention of Jerusalem in the document.
There is no mention of creating a Palestinian state either nor of a Palestinian nation. Even resolution 242 has no mention of a Palestinian people or country.
80% was taken off to create what is today Jordan.
The UN Charter article 80 reaffirms the rights of a class A Mandate, the Mandate for Palestine is a class A Mandate.
There is nothing to pretend as there is no mention in the documents you speak of the Palestinian Arab nation as there wasn't one at the time.
You are speaking of resolution 181 which also speaks of a vote a decade later on Jerusalem. Since Jerusalem had a majority Jewish population around 70% it would have been a Jewish city anyway.
YOU ARE EITHER A LIAR, AN IDIOT, OR BLIND BY HATRED.
Try reading the documents you speak of as what you are saying is not true.
Also, it appears you are pretending the partition plan for palestine never happened.

That was the plan that actually gave jews in the region the right to form their own state,

Are you saying they never had this right in the first place?

So not only are the settlements in Jerusalem illegal, even the ones in Tel Aviv are too.

That's pretty harsh. You must really hate jews.
nutjobs here

Tel Aviv, Israel

#109 Aug 23, 2013
I can read wrote:
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Also, it appears you are pretending the partition plan for palestine never happened.
That was the plan that actually gave jews in the region the right to form their own state,
Are you saying they never had this right in the first place?
So not only are the settlements in Jerusalem illegal, even the ones in Tel Aviv are too.
That's pretty harsh. You must really hate jews.
According to the UN's own website UN General Assembly resolutions are only binding if both sides agreed to it. Since both sides didn't it is no legally binding. The legal basis is the Mandate for Palestine.

They had the right before this time.
nutjobs here

Tel Aviv, Israel

#110 Aug 23, 2013
I can read wrote:
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Lets see shall we?
<quoted text>
Looks like it doesn't even mention non UN mandates.
So why are you lying?
There were no UN Mandates when the UN was created. There were however a dozen League of Nations mandates which created most countries in the region.

It makes it clear that Trusteeships can't be changed at least not they way they have been done.
nutjobs here

Tel Aviv, Israel

#111 Aug 23, 2013
and the Mandate for Palestine was under trusteeship to create a country and set up the facilities and institutions to do so. The article you quoted states that the Mandates can't be changed without agreement of the peoples of the Mandate.

Class A mandates
Palestine and Transjordan
Syria and Lebanon
Mesopotamia (draft)
Iraq treaty
The three class A mandates of Palestine and Transjordan, Syria and Lebanon and Mesopotamia. The Mesopotamia mandate was not enacted and was replaced by a treaty with the Kingdom of Iraq.

The first group, or Class A mandates, were territories formerly controlled by the Ottoman Empire that were deemed to "... have reached a stage of development where their existence as independent nations can be provisionally recognized subject to the rendering of administrative advice and assistance by a Mandatory until such time as they are able to stand alone. The wishes of these communities must be a principal consideration in the selection of the Mandatory."

wiki League of Nation Mandates.

Since: Jun 10

Tel Aviv, Israel

#112 Aug 23, 2013
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What's wrong..??

Nutjobs and Rick Moss confused you with the facts..??

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I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#113 Aug 23, 2013
nutjobs here wrote:
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According to the UN's own website UN General Assembly resolutions are only binding if both sides agreed to it. Since both sides didn't it is no legally binding. The legal basis is the Mandate for Palestine.
They had the right before this time.
No. We did.

The mandate for plaestine gives the UK the right to administer things in a certain way.

It does not give Israel any rights because Israel didn't even exist then.
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#114 Aug 23, 2013
nutjobs here wrote:
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There were no UN Mandates when the UN was created. There were however a dozen League of Nations mandates which created most countries in the region.
It makes it clear that Trusteeships can't be changed at least not they way they have been done.
So You ARE saying Israel has no right to even exist.
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#115 Aug 23, 2013
Voice of Peace wrote:
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What's wrong..??
Nutjobs and Rick Moss confused you with the facts..??
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Maybe you should go back to repeatedly asking the same stupid question.

The facts are not one of you has come up with anything which says these Israeli settlements aren't illegal.

The best you've managed is to come up with some evidence that ALL Israeli settlements are illegal.

Since: Jun 10

Tel Aviv, Israel

#116 Aug 23, 2013
I can read wrote:
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No. We did.
The mandate for plaestine gives the UK the right to administer things in a certain way.
It does not give Israel any rights because Israel didn't even exist then.
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""It does not give Israel any rights because Israel didn't even exist then.""

Our nation existed, long before the first one of you chimpanzees ... decended from a tree for the first time and tried to figure out, what the fckk for you have ten fingers ... if you have only one asss hole..

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I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#117 Aug 24, 2013
Voice of Peace wrote:
<quoted text>.
""It does not give Israel any rights because Israel didn't even exist then.""
Our nation existed, long before the first one of you chimpanzees ... decended from a tree for the first time and tried to figure out, what the fckk for you have ten fingers ... if you have only one asss hole..
http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/poeticpengu...
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Back in the real world, Israel celebrated her 65th anniversary this year.

So which country is it that you are pretending to be from?
nutjobs here

Tel Aviv, Israel

#118 Aug 24, 2013
I can read wrote:
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No. We did.
The mandate for plaestine gives the UK the right to administer things in a certain way.
It does not give Israel any rights because Israel didn't even exist then.
Actually again you should learn international law.
BRITAIN WERE THE TRUSTEES OF THE MANDATE. THIS MEANT THAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW THE MANDATES DIRECTIVES.

Britain against the Mandate restricted Jewish immigration instead of encouraging it as the text clearly states.

In 1929 the League of Nations sent a committee to tell Britain that what it was doing was against the trusteeship. Read the League of Nations Mandate documentation.

A Class a Mandate was supposed to lead to the creation of a country as soon as the institutions were set up. The borders were already decided in the 1920's and it was the Brits job to carry this out. They decided otherwise and did the opposite. This is one of the main reason for the strife today.

YOU OBVIOUSLY CAN'T READ OR REFUSE TO.
nutjobs here

Tel Aviv, Israel

#119 Aug 24, 2013
I can read wrote:
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Maybe you should go back to repeatedly asking the same stupid question.
The facts are not one of you has come up with anything which says these Israeli settlements aren't illegal.
The best you've managed is to come up with some evidence that ALL Israeli settlements are illegal.
Not ALL Israel settlements are legal, if the land is owned by individual Palestinians then what is built on it by Israelis is illegal. Appart from that the Mandate for Palestine clearly states that it was the job of Britain to encourage and facilitate immigration to public land in W.Palestine.

YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE NOT READ ANY OF THE DOCUMENTS OF WHICH WE SPEAK.

Since: Jun 10

Tel Aviv, Israel

#120 Aug 24, 2013
I can read wrote:
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Back in the real world, Israel celebrated her 65th anniversary this year.
So which country is it that you are pretending to be from?
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65.

The 65 years we celebrated are, the Independence of the State of Israel..

Our Nation goes back to the days of David... Kapisch..??

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I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#121 Aug 24, 2013
nutjobs here wrote:
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Actually again you should learn international law.
BRITAIN WERE THE TRUSTEES OF THE MANDATE. THIS MEANT THAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW THE MANDATES DIRECTIVES.
Britain against the Mandate restricted Jewish immigration instead of encouraging it as the text clearly states.
In 1929 the League of Nations sent a committee to tell Britain that what it was doing was against the trusteeship. Read the League of Nations Mandate documentation.
A Class a Mandate was supposed to lead to the creation of a country as soon as the institutions were set up. The borders were already decided in the 1920's and it was the Brits job to carry this out. They decided otherwise and did the opposite. This is one of the main reason for the strife today.
YOU OBVIOUSLY CAN'T READ OR REFUSE TO.
[QUOTE who="article 25 of the document nutjobs thinks he's an expert in"]In the territories lying between the Jordan [river] and the eastern boundary of Palestine as ultimately determined, the Mandatory shall be entitled, with the consent of the Council of the League of Nations, to postpone or withhold application of such provisions of this mandate as he may consider inapplicable to the existing local conditions, and to make such provision for the administration of the territories as he may consider suitable to those conditions[/QUOTE]

You were saying?

Besides, it wasn't the mandate for palestine that created Israel, was it?

So why are you so obsessed by it?
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#122 Aug 24, 2013
Voice of Peace wrote:
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65.
The 65 years we celebrated are, the Independence of the State of Israel..
Our Nation goes back to the days of David... Kapisch..??
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So you aren't an Israeli national then?

You don't think Israel should have any of the standard rights of nationhood?

Also, perhaps you could explain how a nation you claim is Over 3000 years old doesn't appear on a single map for the vast majority of that time?
AAA

Whitchurch, UK

#123 Aug 24, 2013
I think the world, except for US and a handful of its fearful allies, are fully behind the Palestine. Despite the role played by Britain which led to the current situation, modern Britain is very much against Israel occupation. Our politicians may vote with the American, but the public does not concur with Israeli doing, so we are not that inhumane. The land as should be returned to Palestine, it is theirs.
paul SHYKORA arts

Calgary, Canada

#124 Aug 24, 2013
Voice of Peace wrote:
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""It does not give Israel any rights because Israel didn't even exist then.""
Our nation existed, long before the first one of you chimpanzees ... decended from a tree for the first time and tried to figure out, what the fckk for you have ten fingers ... if you have only one asss hole..
http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/poeticpengu...
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