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Is China a threat to world peace and security?

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Analyst

Seoul, Korea

#1 Oct 24, 2010
The most burning question of our time is, as it stands, is the PRC a force for good in the modern world or is it, simply put, a disruptive power.

The arguments for it are many-that it supports fundamentalist and military dictatorships in unstable states such as North Korea, Myanmar, Pakistan, Sudan etc., that it does not strongly oppose Iran in its pursuit of the 'bomb' and though it outwardly professes friendship and cooperation based on equality with other countries, it has a hidden agenda to dominate them through unfair trade practices such as in the recent 'currency imbroglio'. And lastly it is an anti-democratic entity which demoralises democratic societies by its mere existence.

If it is indeed a force of evil, then it begs the question as to how it can be stopped. How can it be bought down piece by piece? Your comments.......?
GEE

New York, NY

#2 Oct 24, 2010
Chinese are the 'Model Minority' I wouldn't worry too much about them.
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE

Maple Ridge, Canada

#3 Oct 24, 2010
you should marry a Chinese man...

if you cant beat them... join them
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Port Alberni, Canada

#4 Oct 24, 2010
GEE wrote:
Chinese are the 'Model Minority' I wouldn't worry too much about them.
hey, aren't you a Chinese yourself?'them'?
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Port Alberni, Canada

#5 Oct 24, 2010
Analyst wrote:
The most burning question of our time is, as it stands, is the PRC a force for good in the modern world or is it, simply put, a disruptive power.
The arguments for it are many-that it supports fundamentalist and military dictatorships in unstable states such as North Korea, Myanmar, Pakistan, Sudan etc., that it does not strongly oppose Iran in its pursuit of the 'bomb' and though it outwardly professes friendship and cooperation based on equality with other countries, it has a hidden agenda to dominate them through unfair trade practices such as in the recent 'currency imbroglio'. And lastly it is an anti-democratic entity which demoralises democratic societies by its mere existence.
If it is indeed a force of evil, then it begs the question as to how it can be stopped. How can it be bought down piece by piece? Your comments.......?
of course Communist China is the most evil power in the current world.

without China, Korea would have been united, there wouldn't have been a North Korea.

China is currently supplying missile tech to Iran, which it stole from USA.

China is basically a thief and a slave driver. using slavery and theft to make lots of money from the world.

China is grabbing resources around the world, mining in Zambia and wants to put slavery on the Zambian people, in several incidents, Zambian workers were shot by Chinese managers by guns, 6 were shot in 2006, in 2009, 46 Zambian workers who worked for Chinese copper mine there died in accident, in 2010, Chinese mine managers shot 12 Zambian workers with guns.

China is driving up oil prices, making it more expensive for you to drive your car.
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE

Maple Ridge, Canada

#6 Oct 24, 2010
Have you seen the Chinese domination?

Singapore

Chinese Singaporeans are people of Chinese descent who are born in or immigrated to Singapore and have attained citizenship or permanent residence status. As of 2009, Chinese Singaporeans constitute 74.2% of Singapore's resident population, or approximately three out of four Singaporeans, making them the largest ethnic group in Singapore.

Singapore's standard of living has risen dramatically. Foreign direct investment and a state-led drive to industrialization based on plans drawn up by the Dutch economist Albert Winsemius have created a modern economy focused on industry, education and urban planning.[11] Singapore is the 5th wealthiest country in the world in terms of GDP (PPP) per capita.[12] As of January 2009, Singapore's official reserves stand at US$170.3 billion.

Thailand

about 14% of Thailand's population claim to be of Chinese ethnicity.[3] Extensive intermarriages with the Thais, especially in the past has resulted in many people who claim Chinese ethnicity with Thai ancestry, or mixed.[4] People of Chinese descent are concentrated in the coastal areas of Thailand, principally Bangkok.[5] They are well-represented in all levels of Thai society and play a leading role in business and politics.

Myanmar

The Burmese Chinese dominate the Burmese economy although many enterprises today are co-owned by the military. Moreover, the Burmese Chinese have a disproportionately large presence in Burmese higher education, and make up a high percentage of the educated class in Burma.

Philippines

The Chinese in the Philippines are mostly business owners and their life centers mostly in the family business. These mostly small or medium enterprises play a significant role in the Philippine economy. A handful of these entrepreneurs run large companies and are respected as some of the most prominent business tycoons in the Philippines. Chinese Filipinos attribute their success in business to frugality and hard work, Confucian values and their traditional Chinese customs and traditions. They are very business-minded and entrepreneurship is highly valued and encouraged among the young
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Port Alberni, Canada

#7 Oct 24, 2010
the Chinatowns all over America are helping out the Communist regime in China.

too many Chinese immigrants are making Americans feel dear and close to the Chinese, China, and then even Communist China.

Chinese Americans are making China feel kind of related to America, painting a rosy picture of the evil China.

Communist China is also very good at hiding and pretending, using the cute Panda to deliver a wrong impression to the world that China is cute and peaceful.

don't be fooled.

Nixon was the only president forced to resign, yet it was this person who started Chinese engagement and put Communist China back to UN and even gave them a seat in the permanent UN security council, one of five in the world.

what kind of person is Nixon? is his China policy correct?

probably no, that policy probably has been bringing down America and making Communist China rise in power, which can be a disaster to the world. it caused many Americans to lose jobs, world wealth being stolen and shifted to China which the Chinese really don't deserve to have.

and pollution and global climate change caused by China.

the solution?- Kick Communist China out of U.N., deprived it of the permanent seat in security council, stop trading with China, put an embargo similar to that one on Cuba.
JOE6PACK

New York, NY

#8 Oct 24, 2010
Sounds easy enough. We're with you all the way. How do we get started?
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE

Maple Ridge, Canada

#9 Oct 24, 2010
Malaysia

The Malaysian Chinese have traditionally dominated the Malaysian economy, but with the implementation of affirmative action policies by the Malaysian government to protect the rights of ethnic Malays, their share has somewhat eroded. However, they still make up the majority of the middle- and upper-income classes. As of 2007, they constituted about a quarter of the Malaysian population.

Indonesia

The Chinese are reported to control about 3/4 of the 140 big conglomerates that dominate Indonesia’s private sector.
According to a survey of corporations listed on the Indonesia Stock Exchange, the Chinese Indonesian community was thought to own or operate a large fraction of major Indonesian corporations. This is a result of a long government restriction for Chinese Indonesians from going into academia, public service, and other governmental occupations.
although only 3.5% of the population is Chinese, they own or control 70% of the non-land wealth.

Suharto imposed the so-called New Order regime.
For some prominent Chinese businessmen who were friends of Suharto, the New Order was a bonanza: they received huge government contracts and became some of the richest men in Asia.

Cambodia

Under the Khmer Rouge
The Khmer Rouge takeover was catastrophic for the Chinese community for several reasons. When the Khmer Rouge took over a town, they immediately disrupted the local market. According to Willmott, this disruption virtually eliminated retail trade "and the traders (almost all Chinese) became indistinguishable from the unpropertied urban classes."

The Chinese, in addition to having their livelihood eradicated on the whole, also suffered because of their class. They were mainly well-educated urban merchants, and thus were characteristic of the people whom the Khmer Rouge detested. Chinese refugees have reported that they shared the same brutal treatment as other urban Cambodians under the Khmer Rouge régime and that they were not discriminated against as an ethnic group until after the Vietnamese invasion.

Modern years
Of particular note is China's economic role in the country,[5] which encouraged Sino-Khmer businessmen to reestablish their past business which were once suppressed by the Khmer Rouge.

Modern Cambodian economy is highly dependent on Sino-Khmer companies who controlled a large stake in the country's economy,[6] and their support is enhanced by the large presence of lawmakers who are of at least part-Chinese ancestry themselves.[7]
Kobayashi

Japan

#10 Oct 24, 2010
All sensible nations must come together and form a global alliance against China. the Chinese are basically wimps. Chances are that they will throw in the towel at the very earliest sign of opposition. LOL

RESISTANCE IS FUTILE

Maple Ridge, Canada

#11 Oct 24, 2010
Vietnam

Analytic Summary
The Chinese are reportedly dispersed across the country, although they are concentrated in the southern region of Vietnam, with many residing in and round Ho Chi Minh City They speak Mandarin and other Chinese dialects, but many are also likely to speak Vietnamese. Referred to as the Hoa in Vietnamese, the Chinese are Buddhists and they are physically distinguishable from the Vietnamese, who are referred to as the Kinh . There is limited information available about the cultural characteristics of the Chinese Vietnamese. However, they are likely to share similar cultural characteristics with the Kinh, because of the long period of Chinese Han dynasty domination of Vietnam.

Prior to the 1975 reunification of North and South Vietnam, most Chinese resided in the south, especially around Saigon (now Ho Chi Minh City). The southern Chinese were primarily engaged in commerce and they were economically advantaged, partially due to their favored status under French colonial rule.

The 1975 victory of the communist North Vietnam adversely affected the status of the Chinese. All private trade within the country was banned in 1978. Many Hoa businessmen were sent to populate and cultivate land in areas known as New Economic Zones (NEZ). During 1978, the Chinese held several protests in Ho Chi Minh City against the relocations to the NEZs and also to press for Chinese citizenship (PROT75X = 3). The 1979 China-Vietnam border war worsened relations between the Hoa and Kinh communities as some Chinese were viewed as supporting the PRC.

Some prosperous Chinese chose to leave Saigon prior to the fall of South Vietnam, but the major outflow occurred between 1979 and 1981. Many Hoa were among the thousands of Vietnamese boat people who were fleeing the economic and political reconstruction under the Orderly Departure Program. More than 200,000 Chinese left Vietnam for Hong Kong and other Southeast Asian countries during 1979. By 1981, some 227,000 Chinese refugees had been accepted by the PRC alone. Hundreds of thousands of other Hoa and Kinh boat people were to reside in refugee camps in Hong Kong and other South East states for up to two decades after fleeing Vietnam in the late 1970s.

The relationship between the Chinese and state authorities has vastly improved since the late 1970s. Since the early 1980s, political, economic, and cultural restrictions against the Chinese have slowly been lessened. In 1982, for instance, a law was passed which recognized the Hoa as Vietnamese citizens that possess the rights of all other citizens. Restrictions were still maintained on Chinese employment in the security sphere (e.g., armed forces). All employment restrictions were removed in 1986.

The Chinese were able to expand their economic influence after Vietnam launched an economic liberalization program late in the decade. Reports indicate that the economically advantaged CHINESE CONTROL up to 50% of local commercial activities in Ho Chi Minh City.

In the mid-1990s, all official policies that limited the participation of the Chinese in the political sphere were lifted. They possess the same rights as the country's other citizens. The improvement in the status of the Chinese has also been mirrored in the China-Vietnam relationship. Bilateral trade is an important source of revenue for Vietnam; in 1999, trade between the two countries was valued at $1.5 billion, up from $1 billion the previous year, The Hoa have also been critical in helping to draw in foreign investment from other Southeast Asian countries. There is no evidence of political or economic discrimination against the Chinese. The Chinese actively participate in the Communist Party, which in turn advocates for their interests .

There have been no reports of tense relations between the Hoa and the Kinh from 1998-2006. There have been no reported instances of protest or rebellion against the government in recent years
antiwar

Forestville, Australia

#12 Oct 24, 2010
Kobayashi wrote:
All sensible nations must come together and form a global alliance against China. the Chinese are basically wimps. Chances are that they will throw in the towel at the very earliest sign of opposition. LOL
Millions of innocent Asian people had been murdered by Japan in WW2 and now you unrepentent tug is spewing hatred again? You whimp and warmonger as written in history book.
Tien Huang

Pucanganom, Indonesia

#13 Oct 24, 2010
antiwar wrote:
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Millions of innocent Asian people had been murdered by Japan in WW2 and now you unrepentent tug is spewing hatred again? You whimp and warmonger as written in history book.
QFT !
Drgunzet

Meridian, ID

#14 Oct 24, 2010
antiwar wrote:
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Kobayashi wrote:
All sensible nations must come together and form a global alliance against China. the Chinese are basically wimps. Chances are that they will throw in the towel at the very earliest sign of opposition. LOL
Millions of innocent Asian people had been murdered by Japan in WW2 and now you unrepentent tug is spewing hatred again? You whimp and warmonger as written in history book.
It's called redemption. Japan owes that to the world. So go fight China, do it again. I bet Japan, Manchurians, Vietnam knows some tricks of how to beat China.

It appears that China has not learned the lessons in history and is asking to be owned again. When the Western powers return and put down China again, don't beg for mercy this time.
Drgunzet

Meridian, ID

#15 Oct 24, 2010
Analyst wrote:
The most burning question of our time is, as it stands, is the PRC a force for good in the modern world or is it, simply put, a disruptive power.
The arguments for it are many-that it supports fundamentalist and military dictatorships in unstable states such as North Korea, Myanmar, Pakistan, Sudan etc., that it does not strongly oppose Iran in its pursuit of the 'bomb' and though it outwardly professes friendship and cooperation based on equality with other countries, it has a hidden agenda to dominate them through unfair trade practices such as in the recent 'currency imbroglio'. And lastly it is an anti-democratic entity which demoralises democratic societies by its mere existence.
If it is indeed a force of evil, then it begs the question as to how it can be stopped. How can it be bought down piece by piece? Your comments.......?
It's an obvious answer. Compare to USA which had no territory war for so long, say more than 100 years now, China has continous warfare over territory.

_ 1950 took over Tibet.
_ 1962 sneaked attack Soviet Union over an island and various other lands.
_ 1979 attacked Vietnam.
_ 1988 attacked Vietnam at sea again.
_ constantly threaten to take over Taiwan.
_ 2010 harrased and escalated the claim to Japanese islands. This year Japan has decided to add 6 more attack submarines to their fleet. Clearly China is causing the escalation in the arm race.

Thus we must bring down China for world peace. There are a couple method.

1. Induce a power struggle to China. China has hundred of billions in dollars held hostage by the USA. If this money is lost, it's enough for the current power vying party members to blame on the current leadership and topple them. This would weakens China.

2. Embargo trades to squeeze out China.

3. If 1 and 2 does not work. Release advanced virus that only target evil genes.
Tien Huang

Pucanganom, Indonesia

#16 Oct 24, 2010
Drgunzet wrote:
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It's an obvious answer. Compare to USA which had no territory war for so long, say more than 100 years now, China has continous warfare over territory.
_ 1950 took over Tibet.
_ 1962 sneaked attack Soviet Union over an island and various other lands.
_ 1979 attacked Vietnam.
_ 1988 attacked Vietnam at sea again.
_ constantly threaten to take over Taiwan.
_ 2010 harrased and escalated the claim to Japanese islands. This year Japan has decided to add 6 more attack submarines to their fleet. Clearly China is causing the escalation in the arm race.
Thus we must bring down China for world peace. There are a couple method.
1. Induce a power struggle to China. China has hundred of billions in dollars held hostage by the USA. If this money is lost, it's enough for the current power vying party members to blame on the current leadership and topple them. This would weakens China.
2. Embargo trades to squeeze out China.
3. If 1 and 2 does not work. Release advanced virus that only target evil genes.
China has no single military base outside its territory.
Drgunzet can you recall how many US bases in the entire world ?
How many US military personel stationed in other countries right now, and killing the locals in Afghanistan and Iraq ?
Vietnam had also been the American killing field for many years.
The industrious Chinese people are able to produce the lowest price useful products for the world inhabitants.
Assuming you are the disciple of Keynesian Capitalism and understand the law of Supply and Demand, China's products are very well accepted by people of various countries. It doesn't matter if racist people full of hatred like you do not want to buy, but others will. You will NEVER succeed with your "embargo" advice.
And why your dirty mind intend to release deadly virus toward the innocent Chinese people ? Isn't it the betrayal against mankind ?
You must be insane !
I suspect, and not proven yet, the SARS virus, and the Avian Flu viruses were also prepared especially for the Chinese People, because they does not affect the Caucasian, and mainly the Mongoloid. But the mighty social power of the PRC can overcome them.
Look, China will never use those dirty tricks, but remember what other countries can make, China can also do the same. That is why I call your idea (though illogical) a "Betrayal against Mankind."
learn123

Delaware, OH

#17 Oct 24, 2010
The answer is NO, China is not a threat to the world peace and security. Some developed nations are a threat to peace and we see it everyday on the news !
HCM

New York, NY

#18 Oct 24, 2010
::cough cough::

Iraq, Afghanistan! These are full scale wars mind you, lasting 10 years minimum with millions dead and countries and families devastated.

They more than earned their name of GREAT SATAN!
Drgunzet

Meridian, ID

#19 Oct 24, 2010
Tien Huang wrote:
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China has no single military base outside its territory.
Drgunzet can you recall how many US bases in the entire world ?
How many US military personel stationed in other countries right now, and killing the locals in Afghanistan and Iraq ?
Vietnam had also been the American killing field for many years.
The industrious Chinese people are able to produce the lowest price useful products for the world inhabitants.
Assuming you are the disciple of Keynesian Capitalism and understand the law of Supply and Demand, China's products are very well accepted by people of various countries. It doesn't matter if racist people full of hatred like you do not want to buy, but others will. You will NEVER succeed with your "embargo" advice.
And why your dirty mind intend to release deadly virus toward the innocent Chinese people ? Isn't it the betrayal against mankind ?
You must be insane !
I suspect, and not proven yet, the SARS virus, and the Avian Flu viruses were also prepared especially for the Chinese People, because they does not affect the Caucasian, and mainly the Mongoloid. But the mighty social power of the PRC can overcome them.
Look, China will never use those dirty tricks, but remember what other countries can make, China can also do the same. That is why I call your idea (though illogical) a "Betrayal against Mankind."
I am full well versed in Economics both macro and micro as well as Finance. I even grafted the relativity theory and time-diation equation into these economics equation in case you loan money to God.

China is violated every fundemental of economic principles, such as Laissez-faire. China government interferes, manipulates the world economy. That got to stop.
Drgunzet

Meridian, ID

#20 Oct 24, 2010
Tien Huang wrote:
<quoted text>
China has no single military base outside its territory.
Drgunzet can you recall how many US bases in the entire world ?
How many US military personel stationed in other countries right now, and killing the locals in Afghanistan and Iraq ?
Vietnam had also been the American killing field for many years.
The industrious Chinese people are able to produce the lowest price useful products for the world inhabitants.
Assuming you are the disciple of Keynesian Capitalism and understand the law of Supply and Demand, China's products are very well accepted by people of various countries. It doesn't matter if racist people full of hatred like you do not want to buy, but others will. You will NEVER succeed with your "embargo" advice.
And why your dirty mind intend to release deadly virus toward the innocent Chinese people ? Isn't it the betrayal against mankind ?
You must be insane !
I suspect, and not proven yet, the SARS virus, and the Avian Flu viruses were also prepared especially for the Chinese People, because they does not affect the Caucasian, and mainly the Mongoloid. But the mighty social power of the PRC can overcome them.
Look, China will never use those dirty tricks, but remember what other countries can make, China can also do the same. That is why I call your idea (though illogical) a "Betrayal against Mankind."
USA (and along with UN) is in Iraq and Afghan to keep the world peace, not taking over their land. I repeat again, USA has not conflict with any teritorial dispute, China is. Don't a void my point.

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