Working for a FREE CHINA; Things to know

Working for a FREE CHINA; Things to know

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CHINA SPRING

Surrey, Canada

#1 Apr 24, 2013
Will China soon become a democracy?
POSTED BY ALFRED WILHELM MEIER ⋅ NOVEMBER 21, 2012 ⋅ 3 COMMENTS
FILED UNDER CHINA, CHINA COMMUNIST PARTY, CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY, DEMOCRACY, HU JINTAO, HUMAN RIGHTS, SINGAPORE, SOUTH KOREA, TAIWAN, UNITED STATES
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Hu Jintao
The Chinese are getting richer – but not necessarily democratic.

Hu Jintao, the outgoing President of the Republic of China, has had few surprises in his farewell address. The core message was: continued rapid economic growth and one-party rule. And by 2020, the average income is doubled.

Will the Chinese Communist Party manage to continue the existing course in the next ten years?

There are two contrary opinions. One side believes that the PRC follows a different path than the West and might be transformed more into a large Singapore. This means: the per capita income will reach Western levels, without changing the form of government much. Maybe the party is no longer as repressive against the opposition, but basically they can continue to rule by authoritarian grip if the citizens are too saucy.

The other side believes that democracy is inevitable. The standard of comparison is not the West, but South Korea and Taiwan. Both are countries, which have long been under dictatorial rule but have moved beyond a certain level of prosperity to a democratic system under the pressure of the road. In South Korea, there were free and direct presidential elections in 1987 and in Taiwan in 1996.

Comparing the relationship between prosperity and democracy there is a fact that in South Korea, the democracy movement gained momentum as the average income per person went over the threshold of $ 5,000 (precisely: 1990 International Geary-Khamis dollars, an international reference value).

In Taiwan, this process began somewhat later, i.e. only from about 10,000 U.S. dollars annual income per capita.

China has exceeded the threshold of $5,000 long ago. There is a middle class demanding more freedom and participation and it will fight the party rule. According to this thesis, in China a powerful pro-democracy movement should come in the next ten years .

Who is right? That’s hard to say, because the PRC is much bigger than South Korea and Taiwan. The comparison is tricky. In addition, South Korea and Taiwan have long been under the influence of the United States. At the end of the Cold War the US even approved or forced political reforms. The PRC is a world unto itself.

On the other hand, it is difficult to understand why other historical laws apply to the PRC. Just because the country is so big, there is a high chance that the governance of the Communist Party of China is too difficult sometimes.

And if there is an oblique comparison, it’s the one with Singapore: The Republic of China has 1.3 billion inhabitants; Singapore’s population is just over 5 million.

And then the famous rule that worldwide so far, no party has ruled the policy of a country for more than 74 years. The record comes from the CPSU, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, which ruled from 1917 to 1991 alone, uninterrupted.

If the Chinese Communist Party wants to equal that record, it must hold at least until 2023. That could be eleven long years.

Source: Tagesanzeiger “Wird China bald demokratisch?”(Translated from German by nomade51)
CHINA SPRING

Surrey, Canada

#2 Apr 24, 2013
"They say time is the best cure for memories of pain and suffering, yet time has not lessened our pain of watching thousands of students being slaughtered in Tiananmen Square all those years ago. Their noble aspirations and bravery will be remembered by this generation, and by the next generation through our continue effort.

The patriotic democratic movement triggered by the death of Hu yaobang in 1989 have brought out the problems of widespread corruption and commodity price manipulation of government officials. It has subsequently led to the June 4th Massacre in the Tiananmen Square….



Brief Summary of the Events of 89'
15/4 - 23/4 : Commemorate Hu Yaobang
24/4 - 4/5 : The Editorial
5/5 - 12/5 : Demonstration
13/5 - 16/5 : Hunger Strike
17/5 - 23/5 : Martial Law
24/5 - 2/6 : The Sit-in
3/6 - 6/6 : The Massacre
Condemnation
White Terror
Continuation of the Movement
Re-visit 89' through our daily diary
Tankman, or the unknown rebel
The Goddess of Democracy"


from:
http://www.alliance.org.hk/english/Tiananmen_...
CHINA SPRING

Surrey, Canada

#3 Apr 24, 2013
"Lives Altered

Tian Daomin just finished his thesis. He went out to celebrated. He was gunned down. Gao Liang saw the killings. He was enraged. He threw a few bricks at the armored vehicle. He was sentenced to life. Ding Zilin was looking forward to seeing her only son into unviversity. A year later, she found herself heading the Tianamen Mothers. Wang Dan was in his second year of university. He spoke up. 23 years and two prison terms later, he found himself exiled, unable to go home. In 2009, Tan Zuorun sent an email to Wang, suggesting ideas to mark the 20th anniversary of Tiananmen. He was sentenced to 5 years in prison for that email."

from:
http://www.alliance.org.hk/english/Tiananmen_...
It is Amazing

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#5 Apr 24, 2013
There are many DEMOCRATIC countries in the world that proclaimed that unlike China, their countries are FREE.

Their free and wondering hungry citizen can RAPE you for FREE.

You can travel from one place to another place for FREE.
You are absolutely FREE to walk there.

WAKE UP. People! There are NO FREE LUNCH in this world!

Advanced nations have many ways of DEALING with the enemy of the state without kicking the dust.

They can use various agencies like IRB, internal security, ect etc or at the worst inject a stringe into your body or you just jump. FREEDOM of speech. Hahahahaha

I have seen plenty of those in here. Hahahahaha

I remain skeptical about REAL DEMOCRACY or their existence.

True DEMOCRACY never existed anywhere in the world today.

Where is the cradle of DEMOCRACY today?

What is Athen today?
karenfrobutt

Pittsburgh, PA

#8 Apr 24, 2013
youtube.com/watch... ………
Excuses ok?
OCCUPY TIANNANMEN

Port Moody, Canada

#11 Apr 25, 2013
"They say time is the best cure for memories of pain and suffering, yet time has not lessened our pain of watching thousands of students being slaughtered in Tiananmen Square all those years ago. Their noble aspirations and bravery will be remembered by this generation, and by the next generation through our continue effort.

The patriotic democratic movement triggered by the death of Hu yaobang in 1989 have brought out the problems of widespread corruption and commodity price manipulation of government officials. It has subsequently led to the June 4th Massacre in the Tiananmen Square….

Brief Summary of the Events of 89'
15/4 - 23/4 : Commemorate Hu Yaobang
24/4 - 4/5 : The Editorial
5/5 - 12/5 : Demonstration
13/5 - 16/5 : Hunger Strike
17/5 - 23/5 : Martial Law
24/5 - 2/6 : The Sit-in
3/6 - 6/6 : The Massacre
Condemnation
White Terror
Continuation of the Movement
Re-visit 89' through our daily diary
Tankman, or the unknown rebel
The Goddess of Democracy"

from:http://www.alliance.org.h k/english/Tiananmen_...
CCP are WEAK as QING

Port Moody, Canada

#12 Apr 26, 2013
"And then the famous rule that worldwide so far, no party has ruled the policy of a country for more than 74 years. The record comes from the CPSU, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, which ruled from 1917 to 1991 alone, uninterrupted."

The CCP is DOOMED and will never last that long. It will die like every single other Leninist dictatorship has.

Good riddance.

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